EPTOn December 24 2012 09:02 Chromatically wrote:
WTF
WTF
On December 24 2012 05:52 Chromatically wrote:
shz and OmniEulogy scumteam 100%
shz and OmniEulogy scumteam 100%
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On December 22 2012 08:58 cakepie wrote: Sylencia: got a free pass D1 for being away, but had better start contributing. Looking okay so far in N1.5 Granted, not a strong one. You even concrete the null-read later: On December 22 2012 10:24 cakepie wrote:The away / heavy lurking {Kickstart, Sylencia, OrangeRemi} are null-, with kickstart being of most concern. Their play on D2 (or lack thereof) will determine greatly how my read of them changes. Yup. I was wrong. 2. On December 22 2012 09:08 cakepie wrote:I was roleblocked. I didn't claim you were a roleblocker, I said you claimed that you've been roleblocked, like me, and someone else. On December 24 2012 14:25 cakepie wrote: I want shz to build us a new case or two so we can tear it down. So you want me to make a case, so you can "tear it down" and make a case against me for that? On December 24 2012 15:30 cakepie wrote:Are you going to build a case against Chromatically on D3? Who are your top two candidates that you have the most suspicions about? On December 24 2012 15:30 cakepie wrote: Notice I say "concerns" rather than "suspects" -- other than shz, it is still incredibly difficult to build a case on the others that would stick well. Such is the sorry state of our town. On December 24 2012 08:42 shz wrote: Chromatically could be very good mafia. He has a good stance inside the active contributors, he can dictate opinions. It could be a very good strategy to have one scum who is offensive and active while the other two are lurking and blending in. [...] My vote does not matter anyway, but I'm gonna go with my gut for now and really hope we either start giving lurker shit or they come out and contribute more so we can actually get something done. ##Vote: Chromatically If I could have, I would have. Like you, I got a feeling, but not much more. Because it is still hard to get a case on anyone. But, I don't think that really pursuing Chroma is a good move at the moment, while there are still so many lurkers lurking hard. We have to get them to post more and look what we find. It seems that your big case against me is, that I don't have one. Thats not pretty strong. | ||
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On December 24 2012 22:39 Sylencia wrote: If pursuing Chroma is not a good move, why did you vote for him? On December 24 2012 08:42 shz wrote: My vote does not matter anyway, but I'm gonna go with my gut for now and really hope we either start giving lurker shit or they come out and contribute more so we can actually get something done. ##Vote: Chromatically | ||
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On December 24 2012 23:19 Sylencia wrote: During day 2, you voted for Chrom. Now, you're saying that pursuing Chrom is not a good move. Why have you done a 180 on your actions? I voted for him 20 mins before the end, because it didn't matter. I just wanted to make clear, that I still have a scummy feeling for him, but at the moment the lurkers are a bigger problem. Also: what is yamato going to do? We still have so much time to wait for the lurkers to come out and look for others. | ||
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Like I said before, I don't like to meta-analyze, but first of all, this is my first game and yamato seems to have some experience, maybe it is standard to meta?, and Kickstart adressed his meta himself. So maybe it is a good clue. Even if he isn't normally lurkingt like that as scum or town, he seems (according to Yamato) pretty paranoid and aggressive as town, which he really isn't in this game. The response to my list was also not versy useful. The thing I don't get is, why he would try so hard to get me lynched, if there isn't a big chance of it at that moment. It could be to gain town-cred (going against the mainstream, knowing the lynch would flip town), or he actually thinks I'm scum because he is town. I'm still trying to figuring out the possibility if Kick and Orange could both be scum. Kick kinda defended Orange On December 23 2012 19:24 Kickstart wrote: Well you make a decent care against Orangeremi by pointing out all the weird things he has done. But could you maybe explain why you think they are scummy? He does a lot of flip-flopping (on spag and then on his stance on me) without any reason, but do you see a scum motive behind it? Especially say, giving me a null read after he gave me his 2nd highest scum read (since would it not be beneficial for scum to keep pressure on me)? while Orange declared him scummy on a few occasions but never actually voted or applied any real pressure. I don't think that anyone actually looked into Kick because of him, which could be a very clever scum-play. But is it? I don't know. I'm not sure if we could actually get any information on their relation if we lynch any of them. But I don't know if we actually could gain more information by lynching anyone else, and out of all the lurkier players, he seems to be the scumiest. I will probably vote for him. At this point, no one is a safe bet, but the safest seems to be Kick. This is really hard to get a grip on and in no way I am confidend in this days lynch. Fuck. | ||
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Scummy: Lurking hard. Not paranoid, not aggressive, not critical of bad town play (meta) Tunnled against me, even though there is no wagon rolling. (Gain town-cred) Towny: Lurking hard. Tunnled against me, even though there is no wagon rolling. (Believing I'm scum) You see, most of the core points could be attributed to both alignments, besides the meta-read. | ||
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If we misslynch today, we pretty much fucked, so it should be in scums interest to direct us towards a misslynch, to nearly lock that game down. But there seems to be no oposition towards lynching Kick. Could this mean that mafia is fine with that lynch? Which would mean we are wrong. | ||
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On December 27 2012 23:38 Chromatically wrote: Were you more confident in the other lynches? Seriously, this is the definition of the "hand-wringy scum thing" that marv talked about with Kickstart in XXXI. It's a lot easier to take a stand as scum if you act really uncertain about it, and that's exactly what he's doing when he's pressed for reads. Shz hasn't been confident in a single lynch all game. He nearly completely ignored the lynches d1 and 2, and didn't even vote for someone d2. Not only is this the scum trait of being uninvolved in lynches, it shows how the above quote is bs. There's no reason for shz to act all uncertain about todays lynch when he hasn't participated in any other lynch. By doing this, he also excuses himself from giving any confident scumreads, like he's been avoiding all game. He's being pressed for reads so he chooses the easy one but acts nervous to make himself look better when he flips town. I would be up for a shz lynch. At the very least, I'd have a very hard time voting Kickstart because of this. I explained why I'm not confidend. But being not confidend seems to be scummy, so if I just pull something out of my ass you will be satisfied? I don't think so, thats why I will not do it. I see the points on all the candidates, but I don't feel overly strong towards anyone. FC still didn't contribute anything. I would lynch kick and FC at least for t he lurking and on top of them for leaning towards scum. But I'm not vonfident that they will flip scum, but at least flip lurker. I will not spam two pages of player X IS 100% SCUM. That seems like your approach to his game. | ||
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This can mean that either kick is town or they're fine with sacrificing him to not risk getting called out for it. We will see in two minutes. | ||
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On December 28 2012 09:16 cakepie wrote: I was ready to vote Kick at XX:59, but with the tie vote rule, I decided to just sit here and sip my coffee instead. Could you please explain why? What was your reasoning behind voting Kick at 59 when you could have done it earlier? | ||
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