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Ok I reread it again and realised that it may be ambiguous ...
but can't put more than one vote on a guy or vote for themselves-- a self-vote is an abstain. They can vote to give the power to nobody, but only with one vote.
the X top winners can choose from the following pool of Powers, which they retain until the next election:
edit: nah after rereading it I'm finding it funny again lol. Really sucks to have lost that way, and have my mind screwed up that badly >:-[
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yup jx we are the idiots yup
actually I am the idiot because we would have won the game if i just remembered to nk ghost tonight.
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godammit thinking about missing that nk rages me. thanks for completely failing to give a shit djodref.
I had to work overnight the night before so my sense of time was all messed up that is my excuse.
DJO did you know that when you die that doesn't mean you lose???
selfish arrogant bad scumplay from djo i am mad.
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and it's like you weren't even dead yet. but your scum epeen was so big from that last scum game you played that any whiff of your own lynch and you wanted to concede.
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I would have very much preferred being humiliated by brilliant mafia play than 2 people not getting the rules.
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On December 28 2012 20:00 kushm4sta wrote:
and it's like you weren't even dead yet. but your scum epeen was so big from that last scum game you played that any whiff of your own lynch and you wanted to concede.
It's just too easy.
When I send the night actions and you get jailed so the NK don't get through, it is my responsability.
When you forget to send the night actions, it is also my fault.
I think we could have got Cheese lynched D2 if you were actually playing this game for winning and not for being right.
So really excuse me for not giving a fuck at the end. We are all responsible for losing this and your plan of bussing all your partners is just fucking brilliant if you are unable to send a PM.
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On December 28 2012 20:04 JieXian wrote:
I would have very much preferred being humiliated by brilliant mafia play than 2 people not getting the rules.
Please show me which part of the rules we didn't understand.
And you were very close for losing the game for the town with your obsession with Hapa being scum.
So yeah, don't be cocky...
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On December 28 2012 19:58 kushm4sta wrote:
godammit thinking about missing that nk rages me. thanks for completely failing to give a shit djodref.
I had to work overnight the night before so my sense of time was all messed up that is my excuse.
DJO did you know that when you die that doesn't mean you lose???
selfish arrogant bad scumplay from djo i am mad.
You were playing like a selfish retard all game...
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On December 28 2012 23:27 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2012 19:58 kushm4sta wrote:
godammit thinking about missing that nk rages me. thanks for completely failing to give a shit djodref.
I had to work overnight the night before so my sense of time was all messed up that is my excuse.
DJO did you know that when you die that doesn't mean you lose???
selfish arrogant bad scumplay from djo i am mad.
You were playing like a selfish retard all game...
no?
1 i tried to save DYH and would have saved him if people were actually in the thread
2 i did save you
fact of mafia: scum must bust unless town is a total failure.
you have way too much ego
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Blazinghand
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Please critique each other's play without insulting each other. Our aim here should be to improve, not to be insult.
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JX... what are you talking about? Kush and Djo understood the plan. They would have looked terrible if they objected to it (after all it was pro-town to accept it). I have no idea why you objected, and your antics nearly screwed the town singlehandedly.
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On December 28 2012 23:16 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2012 20:04 JieXian wrote:
I would have very much preferred being humiliated by brilliant mafia play than 2 people not getting the rules. Please show me which part of the rules we didn't understand. And you were very close for losing the game for the town with your obsession with Hapa being scum. So yeah, don't be cocky...
Kush, in fact, this is very good for us Because people are going to vote for "nobody" They have to cast the Witchcraft vote, they cannot send nothing. If they follow the rules, "nobody" is going to win. There is not going to be any blues next round. That's perfect ! I think that the order of the votes went like this Cheese -> "nobody" Hapa -> "ghost" Hopefully,then, JieXian and ghost are going to vote as well JieXian -> "nobody" Ghost -> "nobody" Then, "nobody" becomes blue, that's the rule. If they miss it for the rest of the day, then it's totally OK  I'm going to look not so bad because I accepted the thing. If JieXian complains, he is going to look bad. So, yeah, don't worry ^^ @Blazinghand -> Could you confirm that nobody is going to win if the votes happened the way I described it ? I'm not asking to know which one of Hapa and Cheese voted first ^^
This bad rule intepretation that you didn't get costed you the game remember? I find it ludicrous that you still didn't know what was the final game deciding play.
The only reason I was obsessed with hapa was because you 2 appeared to have pulled off a super bluff as mafia by agreeeing to his plan. But the fact is you actually thought and still seem to think that the plan that made you lose was to be a plan that would make you win and never realised it until now.
You get absolutely no bragging rights for fooling me this way lol...
For the record I didn't really feel like I won and I never bragged about it. Everything I said post game was only frustration. In fact, Hapa singlehandedly won the game, and I still don't get your lack of respect/fear for his town play.
I hardly did anything. The most pro town thing I did was realising something about the voting N4 which lead me to not claim:
if Djo is town,
I voted after hapa did for ghost,
Therefore we're the only 2 people who voted for ghost then hapa is still town.
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hapa do have a read at my quote from the mafia qt in the post above
They actually thought and still think that "nobody" would have won the election
Remember how kush thought that my "sabotage" won you the game?
On December 28 2012 11:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2012 11:52 kushm4sta wrote:
you guys dont realize it but jx actually won this game for you.
so you were going to elect no one as witch, since no one had the majority vote.
what you actually wanted was to abstain instead of vote no one.
djo and I were counting on no one getting witchcraft.
but jx made fixed that problem and fooled me into thinking the no one/abstain thijg didn't work BH messaged me saying that you can vote for "no-one" as you don't vote for a person. Or you can vote for "nobody" and that means nobody at all gets the powers. I voted for "no-one" per his response. Either way the plan should have worked.
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JX, I still don't understand your vote on ghost.
These would be the votes (in order):
Djo->Mr CC
Hapa -> ghost
JX -> ghost
If Djo & Hapa are town, Mr CC would have 1 vote, and ghost would have 2 votes, thus ghost gets elected
If Djo is scum and Hapa town, ghost has 2 votes thus gets elected
If both Djo and Hapa are scum, ghost gets 1 vote and thus gets elected
If Djo is town and Hapa scum, Mr CC gets 1 vote first and thus gets elected.
The only advantage of your plan was being sure that Mr CC would get elected if Djo was town and Hapa was scum.....in every other scenario you have no idea who is the real scum and you basically wasted that witchcraft vote. If both Djo and Hapa are town, you even "confirmed" Djo as scum and lost town the game.
Not only that, but even if you tried to figure any of those situations out...other townies don't know if you are town or scum so they have even more scenarios to take into account, for instance "If JX is town and telling the truth then..." and "If JX is scum and lying then...".
Imagine this: you and Djo are the scumteam
What happens? Exactly what happened before, ghost gets elected and Djo is "confirmed scum". Well....you, as scum, just claim you voted ghost, post those "bullshit" reasons for voting him, and now Djo is no longer "confirmed scum" because, if people assume you are town, there is a chance Djo is town (if Hapa is town as well). Now town, instead of having 1 confirmed town or 1 confirmed scum have no idea what to do.
Now, imagine you (as town) claimed as you did on D5 before Djo gets lynched (or even in N4). What does town believe? That you legitimately voted ghost for those reasons you posted or that you are Djo's scumbuddy trying to avoid getting him lynched because he's not "confirmed scum" anymore?
EDIT: Of course the obvious question is "What if Djo was town?"
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On December 29 2012 03:05 gonzaw wrote:
JX, I still don't understand your vote on ghost.
These would be the votes (in order):
Djo->Mr CC
Hapa -> ghost
JX -> ghost
If Djo & Hapa are town, Mr CC would have 1 vote, and ghost would have 2 votes, thus ghost gets elected
If Djo is scum and Hapa town, ghost has 2 votes thus gets elected
If both Djo and Hapa are scum, ghost gets 1 vote and thus gets elected
If Djo is town and Hapa scum, Mr CC gets 1 vote first and thus gets elected.
The only advantage of your plan was being sure that Mr CC would get elected if Djo was town and Hapa was scum.....in every other scenario you have no idea who is the real scum and you basically wasted that witchcraft vote. If both Djo and Hapa are town, you even "confirmed" Djo as scum and lost town the game.
Not only that, but even if you tried to figure any of those situations out...other townies don't know if you are town or scum so they have even more scenarios to take into account, for instance "If JX is town and telling the truth then..." and "If JX is scum and lying then...".
Imagine this: you and Djo are the scumteam
What happens? Exactly what happened before, ghost gets elected and Djo is "confirmed scum". Well....you, as scum, just claim you voted ghost, post those "bullshit" reasons for voting him, and now Djo is no longer "confirmed scum" because, if people assume you are town, there is a chance Djo is town (if Hapa is town as well). Now town, instead of having 1 confirmed town or 1 confirmed scum have no idea what to do.
Now, imagine you (as town) claimed as you did on D5 before Djo gets lynched (or even in N4). What does town believe? That you legitimately voted ghost for those reasons you posted or that you are Djo's scumbuddy trying to avoid getting him lynched because he's not "confirmed scum" anymore?
EDIT: Of course the obvious question is "What if Djo was town?"
Excuse my skipping and skimming to the end but I really thought djo was town because that plan was about to cost him the game were he scum and it didn't make sense to me that he'd have absolutely no resistance towards the plan.
Djo and Kush (would be the next target along with me if djo flips town) had nothing to gain as scum, be it as a team or seperately, would agree to the plan. I mean they'd look good during the day but come night djo will be instantly be labelled as scum.
Therefore, dismissing a bluff that made no long term sense, I conjured up theories of how hapa/mrcc/ghost could be mafia and how they would have something to gain since hapa was the one who proposed the plan
in retrospect my vote would be useless even if Djo was town and hapa was scum since I voted for ghost after hapa did.
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If Djo & Hapa are town, Mr CC would have 1 vote, and ghost would have 2 votes, thus ghost gets elected
If Djo is town and Hapa scum, Mr CC gets 1 vote first and thus gets elected.
Since I thought convinced that Djo was town, this was precisely why I didn't claim and was getting kush to do so. Like I said that was the only pro town thing I did.
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But if you thought Djo was town....if you had let the plan go through Djo would be confirmed town so it would not "doom" anybody, since not even Hapa or ghost would be "confirmed town".
I take it you "assumed" Djo was town, and wanted to prove if Hapa was scum or town with that vote of yours then?
Again, did you take into account people assuming Djo was confirmed scum and maybe assuming you were his scumbuddy for trying to NOT paint him as confirmed scum?
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nah I wasn't assuming, I was convinced that djo was town for reasons stated above.
Actually my vote on ghost was placed very very late in D4, when I was already convinced by kush and djo were townie.
I never thought too much about protecting myself that way because I wasn't trying to save myself but to save town (or at least who I thought were town). If the argument came up in D5 that I was protecting Djo I'd use the same argument that I'm using now: he did nothing to stop the plan which was about to expose him.
Edit: understood your question
My vote on ghost which actually helped my pro-town decision making was actually a coincidence and because I didn't make allowance for town hapa when I placed that vote. I had a wrong idea about the voting mechanics too (that only town would be notified if they won) when I posted some long babble about the PLAN and its possible outcomes
I only came to a realisation after ghost won, that my vote was telling me that hapa could very well be townie
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We should all just put this game behind us.
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Agreed MrCc. With the exceptions of Hapa, DP, Thrawn, and maybe MrZ, this game should be looked back on as a cautionary tale. Trying to justify bad play after the fact isn't helping anyone to learn from their mistakes.
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