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Vivax
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Vivax
21959 Posts
On December 10 2012 12:27 jaybrundage wrote: I swear to god if thrawn doesnt explain him self. Hes the most anti town player i have seen in a while. Frustrating really. I am only hesitant to vote him because i dont like early bandwagons in general. It hurts the conversation and shit to read if we all are voting the same person. Regardless of how unlogical his claims maybe (for town). Thrawn can you please drop your sharade and just attempt to explain your reasoning. Or as i said before your gonna get lynched It's also the post that gets jaybrundage so many votes. If you look at the timing of this post, jaybrundage tries hard to contribute here. But he doesn't want to vote cause he'd be looking like he's bandwagoning (THRAWN had 3 votes on him at the time of this post). He probably also saw that two people were arguing over not-happened votes during questionings, so he also tried hard to justify himself for not voting thrawn. This post in general looks so constructed that it hurts. Seriously, I'd even vote for jay before Tunkeg. What do you think? | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
On December 10 2012 13:07 Adam4167 wrote: In fact, why are you not voting me dabears? You say you don't like me (I assume this means you think i'm scum?), you find my lack of vote strange and that my reactions feel forced. Why make a case like this if you aren't going to follow it with a vote? ##Vote: dabears This caught my eye in Adam's filter, someone says "Oh Adam might be scum" he went into insta defensive mode, then he didn't address the accusation but only followed up with a counter vote. Seems strange? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On December 11 2012 18:56 thrawn2112 wrote: atm i'd rather lynch a lurker than adam Adam is a lurker. Or at least semi lurker. Look at his filter | ||
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Vivax
21959 Posts
Adam got accused by dabears of not voting the guy he was questioning. Meanwhile, dabears didn't vote Adam while accusing him of this, thus making himself guilty of the same "mistake". Adam notices it, and 1. votes for him since it's what he wanted 2. Says it's suspicious that dabears himself didn't vote for Adam. | ||
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Vivax
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
On December 11 2012 22:03 Vivax wrote: Hey Bluelightz, did you read? Adam got accused by dabears of not voting the guy he was questioning. Meanwhile, dabears didn't vote Adam while accusing him of this, thus making himself guilty of the same "mistake". Adam notices it, and 1. votes for him since it's what he wanted 2. Says it's suspicious that dabears himself didn't vote for Adam. Is voting necessary when one has suspicions on someone? No. It's up to them when they vote. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
Taking Adam out, do you prefer Jay over Tunkeg or vice versa? | ||
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Vivax
21959 Posts
On December 11 2012 22:06 Bluelightz wrote: Is voting necessary when one has suspicions on someone? No. It's up to them when they vote. By saying that you're actually defending Adam against dabears first accusations. Dunno if you even realize that. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
By many do you mean only you? Aaaand I don't see any "The case on Adam is bad" in clarity's filter..? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
How are you 'almost certain' Djo isn't scum? | ||
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Vivax
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On December 11 2012 21:24 Vivax wrote: I've read Adams filter. So basically, the case on him seems to be built on "the change of tone in his post". That post with changed tone dabears mentioned was written one day after the last ones, so it's likely that he's writing like that cause he's not heated up like the day before. That day, he finished into an OMGUS fight with dabears, where they basically both vote for each other cause they argue about having to vote for the people you lean scum on. And this is where the matter stinks. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=9#171 This is dabeers post about Adam. OH SHIT HE'S SUSPICIOUS CAUSE HE'S NOT VOTING FOR THRAWN. Look at the post, look at the voting thread, look at the reactions. Adam voted before debears upon being accused by him of not voting thrawn, meanwhile, dabears accused Adam of something he himself did. Only clarity so far has expressed criticism of this case against Adam, now I will, too. 1.The case is shit 2.The case is shit 3.The case is shit Being this a shit case accepted by many people, I think there's scum trying to sheep in it. Yeah, you aren't reading the fucking thread. It wasn't about his vote | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
On December 11 2012 22:09 Vivax wrote: By saying that you're actually defending Adam against dabears first accusations. Dunno if you even realize that. I'm defending dabears first accusation. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On December 11 2012 22:06 marvellosity wrote: Hi Palmar. Taking Adam out, do you prefer Jay over Tunkeg or vice versa? Jay | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
Is there something you've seen from Tunkeg that suggests to you he is town? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On December 11 2012 22:21 marvellosity wrote: Is there something you've seen from Tunkeg that suggests to you he is town? Not really, but I think clarity's analysis of Jay's play so far is much more likely to hit home than bugs's meta read on Tunkeg. I agree that I wish Tunkeg would play differently, but I can't really lynch everyone who doesn't play like I want them to. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On December 11 2012 21:21 Palmar wrote: Out of curiosity, if you had to guess right now, what would your guess be? not like it really matters, but probably: Tunkeg Adam Munk-E one of ZB/VE/you/BL I feel very strongly that among the first 3 there are at least 2 scum. I don't think I am wrong about more than one of them, because Tunkeg + Adam in particular don't play like this as town from what I know. On December 11 2012 22:09 marvellosity wrote: And also, hi bugs. How are you 'almost certain' Djo isn't scum? I don't think mafia would so openly confront someone over a play like Djo did. His tone and willingness to question and probe is really towny to me. Ex: On December 10 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote: I disagree with you, I see more town motivation than mafia motivation for fakeclaiming like that. But I would really like thrawn to explain his motivation by himself at first. He wants to find out thrawn's motivations so he votes him despite thinking that thrawn's actions were townish. I don't see many scum who are willing to put so much attention on themselves in this manner. Think about it: it opens Djo up to the "you're voting someone you have a townread on?" attack, and it's completely obvious. I'm certain scum would at the very least word their posts more carefully or not actually confront the player in such a manner at all. Secondly, when he pushes jay as a lynch, he ACTUALLY pushes it. I don't see scum doing that either. They often don't actively try to convince people to join them in killing someone. Sure, he might be good as scum, but we then have to ask why he would be so concerned with my vote and where it's going. Things like this: On December 10 2012 16:28 Djodref wrote: @ WBG If I take your word for jay and assume that you are not scum yourself, I'd say that I don't have huge concerns about anyone at the beginning of this game. Why did you single out Palmar among all the people who didn't participate yet ? What about Bluelight, Z-Bo, Munk-E, Vivax and Tunkeg ? All of them scum by elimination ? Indicate that Djo is reading the thread and at the very least concerned about people giving half-assed reasons to vote people. I didn't really have a great reason to vote Palmar and he called me out on it. Pretty townie reaction IMO. He also doesn't let bullshit fly: On December 11 2012 12:47 Djodref wrote: @ Tunkeg You can find all my previous games on these forums in my profile. I don't like the way you are saying I'm fluffy and scummy, without really backing it up with a case or at least some quotes. You are just discrediting me for free here. If you think Djo is scum, then you have to assume he is very very good at hiding his intentions. I just don't see scum acting the way he has acted so far. He's also far too active IMO to be a day 1 lynch consideration. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On December 11 2012 22:29 Palmar wrote: Not really, but I think clarity's analysis of Jay's play so far is much more likely to hit home than bugs's meta read on Tunkeg. I agree that I wish Tunkeg would play differently, but I can't really lynch everyone who doesn't play like I want them to. cool, you want to lynch probably the easiest mislynch on TL mafia over someone who clearly does not care about scumhunting. Not to mention, the strongest part of my case isn't the meta, it's the fact that Tunkeg is completely indifferent to the events of the game. | ||
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