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On December 11 2012 17:26 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 17:08 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 11 2012 16:49 Tunkeg wrote:On December 11 2012 16:22 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 11 2012 16:06 Tunkeg wrote:
Lol WBG. In these games you are linking to, and others games like it, haven't you been the one complaining about me posting readposts like that? And also me posting "useless" questions?
And now you say the same play you labeled as bad and useless actually was scumhunting?
If you want me lynched for meta fine. But don't try to convince the thread you were a fan of my previos play. Is that "lol" as in "Lol are you scum?" or lol as in "lol wtf what are you saying?" "don't try to convince the thread" means that you are accusing him of doing bad sneaky things... what's your full read on wbg? It is a: lol, don't come at me with this BS, which contradict what you have said about my play earlier. That is an interesting response. Emotionally it looks like you are upset with what wbg decided to attack you with and you feel like there is some sort of injustice going on. That's what scum would feel. Once again going back to my mario game, if someone accused me of being scum for a reason I knew was true I just felt kinda sad and demotivated. When they accused me of being scum for a reason I thought was BS I had a similar response to your "lol, dont come at me with that bs." When I'm town and I get accused of being scum for reasons I feel are dumb I'm usually immediately suspicious of my accuser. This reminds of the stuff from earlier with debears/adam but I think this example is more likely to have come from a scum mindset. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... You should probably vote then. It looks like you are trying to convince yourself I am scum. You are looking at what I am saying with the notion: "He is scum", and you make everything I say fit into that notion. Also, if you think this is me being upset, you might get surprised when I do 
well i did vote, just not in this thread
holy-deja vu batman I am getting the same feeling from this post as the one I got from T's most recent interactions with wbg. can you give your reads on me + wbg?
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On December 11 2012 17:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
also I love how Tunkeg treats me like town when he responds to me, as if he already knows my alignment.
hehehehehehehehe
I am not treating you like town. I am saying you are capable of getting me lynched regardless of allignment. And imo it is your "debatish" attitude towards the game that have given you a reputation for being a strong scumplayer. Your way of misrepresenting facts and winning arguements when being wrong helps you as scum, but is not that great when you are town. Either way you are wrong here, I am town, so you are either scum deliberatly trying to misrepresent the facts, or town overeager to win the arguement and not seeing the truth.
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i want your read on wbg without stuff like "either way you are wrong here." that gives no indication of what you're actual read is
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On December 11 2012 17:36 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 17:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
also I love how Tunkeg treats me like town when he responds to me, as if he already knows my alignment.
hehehehehehehehe I am not treating you like town. I am saying you are capable of getting me lynched regardless of allignment. And imo it is your "debatish" attitude towards the game that have given you a reputation for being a strong scumplayer. Your way of misrepresenting facts and winning arguements when being wrong helps you as scum, but is not that great when you are town. Either way you are wrong here, I am town, so you are either scum deliberatly trying to misrepresent the facts, or town overeager to win the arguement and not seeing the truth.
look at me, I'm tunkeg, I'm going to continue to do nothing but discredit the case!
If you want to prove that you're town, find scum. Otherwise, go die.
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Bugs, I've only skimmed the pages that were written while I was asleep.
But I think I want to lynch adam. You on board with me buddy?
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So yeah, the more I read the more I'm convinced that this is the correct route to take.
##Vote Adam4167
Everything about his game seems slightly off, and I think it's the better lynch between him and Jay.
In fact, I think my other lynch options at this point would be WBG or Djodref (who has basically disappeared).
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palmer you should have waited longer to read your role pm, that way everyone could have sheeped you
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Feel free to sheep me anyway, not to mention, marv apparently has reached a similar conclusion. I need to read up on my best friend Clarity to see what he thinks about adam, but I have a good feeling about this.
I think Adam slipped up right on his first post as I mentioned in the video.
Let's murder him, shall we? Also I'm not sure how much I like this Tunkeg case.
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On December 11 2012 17:26 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 17:08 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 11 2012 16:49 Tunkeg wrote:On December 11 2012 16:22 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 11 2012 16:06 Tunkeg wrote:
Lol WBG. In these games you are linking to, and others games like it, haven't you been the one complaining about me posting readposts like that? And also me posting "useless" questions?
And now you say the same play you labeled as bad and useless actually was scumhunting?
If you want me lynched for meta fine. But don't try to convince the thread you were a fan of my previos play. Is that "lol" as in "Lol are you scum?" or lol as in "lol wtf what are you saying?" "don't try to convince the thread" means that you are accusing him of doing bad sneaky things... what's your full read on wbg? It is a: lol, don't come at me with this BS, which contradict what you have said about my play earlier. That is an interesting response. Emotionally it looks like you are upset with what wbg decided to attack you with and you feel like there is some sort of injustice going on. That's what scum would feel. Once again going back to my mario game, if someone accused me of being scum for a reason I knew was true I just felt kinda sad and demotivated. When they accused me of being scum for a reason I thought was BS I had a similar response to your "lol, dont come at me with that bs." When I'm town and I get accused of being scum for reasons I feel are dumb I'm usually immediately suspicious of my accuser. This reminds of the stuff from earlier with debears/adam but I think this example is more likely to have come from a scum mindset. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... You should probably vote then. It looks like you are trying to convince yourself I am scum. You are looking at what I am saying with the notion: "He is scum", and you make everything I say fit into that notion. Also, if you think this is me being upset, you might get surprised when I do
On December 11 2012 17:36 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 17:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
also I love how Tunkeg treats me like town when he responds to me, as if he already knows my alignment.
hehehehehehehehe I am not treating you like town. I am saying you are capable of getting me lynched regardless of allignment. And imo it is your "debatish" attitude towards the game that have given you a reputation for being a strong scumplayer. Your way of misrepresenting facts and winning arguements when being wrong helps you as scum, but is not that great when you are town. Either way you are wrong here, I am town, so you are either scum deliberatly trying to misrepresent the facts, or town overeager to win the arguement and not seeing the truth.
Okay I'm willing to consolidate on Tunkeg at this point. Still want my Jay lynch though.
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I'd rather consolidate on Adam.
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atm i'd rather lynch a lurker than adam
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Also I want to point out that I don't feel like I've gotten enough content from VE so far this game, he's being too passive for what I'd like him to be. Now we only have about what... 14? 15? hours left in the day and he's been relatively useless.
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Yeah, I still don't see it. "His posts feel off" is not something I can work with, and the only other thing is his so called "scumslip" which I don't see. His reaction to the votes on him was to quickly address is and go back to scumhunting, which I like.
Eh, it'll suck if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.
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On December 11 2012 18:44 Palmar wrote:
So yeah, the more I read the more I'm convinced that this is the correct route to take.
##Vote Adam4167
Everything about his game seems slightly off, and I think it's the better lynch between him and Jay.
In fact, I think my other lynch options at this point would be WBG or Djodref (who has basically disappeared).
yeah I'm fine with killing Adam if Tunkeg isn't getting lynched.
I'd prefer Tunkeg obviously but Adam's #2 on my list.
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also wtf on scumread on me
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I don't understand what that "scumslip" is either.
I think I explained in the video why I don't like Adam's first post:
On December 10 2012 09:56 Adam4167 wrote:
Thrawn,
I don't know you, can you link me some of your games as scum on here.
Basically, it's a legit question, but it's very easy to just click on someone's profile, go to posts and find recent games. Maybe Adam's just being lazy, but this post reeks of him trying to convey to the thread that he's going to be actively looking at people.
On December 10 2012 10:28 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 10:24 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 10 2012 10:19 Adam4167 wrote:On December 10 2012 09:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
any answer I could possibly give would just betray the actual purpose behind that post, making whatever I hoped to accomplish with that post no longer possible I think you better try to explain what you were hoping to accomplish here. On November 01 2012 08:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
If a miller claims D1 I don't even know what my thought process would be for deciding if I believe them or not, so I'm hesitatingly saying that I disagree with the idea I find this post sits in a stark contrast to your current play, and this is from one of your recent town games (ACME). What's the stark contrast? I don't see how these things are even related. Are you trying to suggest I'm scum? because you went about it pretty subtly. Town you from ACME says that you disagree with the idea of millers claiming, and that you don't even know what your thought process would be for deciding if its real or not. Why are you trying to put everyone else in a similar position of confusion? If I wanted to call you scum, I would have. What I want to know is why you are doing what you are doing.
Again, I'm working on the assumption Adam isn't dumb. It's pretty clear what thrawn is doing, and trying to wonder about it is dumb and pointless. Adam is lingering way too much on a silly stunt pulled by a random person, and asking all the wrong questions.
On December 10 2012 11:55 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 11:43 debears wrote:
@Djo
The person that I don't like so far is adam. I would arguably say he has been just as, if not more, aggressive with you on thrawn. Yet, he hasn't voted him. He implied heavily that thrawn was scum, yet doesn't think he's scummy when asked directly. Furthermore, he keeps hard questioning thrawn on a response that thrawn basically said he wouldn't say (even though it seems to me that he was joking) even though he said he doesn't think thrawn is scum.
His reaction is feeling very forced That's OK, you don't need to like me. Your 'case' isn't much of one, I said I don't know if hes scum or not, so why would I vote him? I feel I've been very transparent about why i'm doing what i'm doing, to try and get some semblance of a read on Thrawn for his early actions. Right now i'm putting him in the 'I don't know what the hell hes doing' category.
Again, he's coming on with this idea that thrawn's actions require extensive analysis, it's very clear (to me at least) what thrawn is doing, and either it means he's scum and fucked up, or he's town and has a terrible plan-idea-thing. I concluded the latter to be the case, but adam seems really confused by something so elementary.
On December 10 2012 12:45 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 12:35 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 10 2012 12:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah, but there's a difference between the original intentions of what I did and what comes out of it no one knows your original intentions because you made a stupid play and then refused to explain it (I'm going to presume out of embarrassment, since anything else is just pathetic) Adam, thoughts on debears? He announced in thread to be voting for Thrawn, but the vote never made it into the voting thread, then he builds a case on me around not voting on someone that I had said I wasn't sure of the alignment of. Ill be watching him closely today.
Not putting shit in the voting thread is not scummy at all, and hardly worth talking about. I don't know why Adam keeps obsessing about irrelevant things this game.
Also "I'll be watching him closely today." made me laugh. It's just how he's saying it that gets my lynchfinger all twitchy.
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In addition to this Adam calls debears out for not voting him, which is yet another thing I find fairly irrelevant, the action of voting adds or relieves no pressure at all in this game, it's the mind behind it that does.
Everything Adam has done and said this game feels careful, calculated and often irrelevant and inconclusive.
He should be the lynch for today.
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On December 11 2012 19:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
also wtf on scumread on me
Well you did do dumb shit twice now
a) trying to kill thrawn for something that probably is just an idiot townie move and you know it.
b) trying to kill me for doing something I think I even mentioned doing before the game, even after I told you exactly when and how I would contribute.
So don't act all surprised.
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On December 11 2012 19:14 Palmar wrote:Well you did do dumb shit twice now a) trying to kill thrawn for something that probably is just an idiot townie move and you know it. b) trying to kill me for doing something I think I even mentioned doing before the game, even after I told you exactly when and how I would contribute. So don't act all surprised.
Bro I tried to kill you cause you were 80% scum. Bro.
As for thrawn I'm just tired of stupid shit. Every game it's something new and stupider.
Neither of these things is a reason to call me scum, so don't be surprised when I call you out on your bullshit.
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On December 11 2012 19:24 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 19:14 Palmar wrote:On December 11 2012 19:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
also wtf on scumread on me Well you did do dumb shit twice now a) trying to kill thrawn for something that probably is just an idiot townie move and you know it. b) trying to kill me for doing something I think I even mentioned doing before the game, even after I told you exactly when and how I would contribute. So don't act all surprised. Bro I tried to kill you cause you were 80% scum. Bro. As for thrawn I'm just tired of stupid shit. Every game it's something new and stupider. Neither of these things is a reason to call me scum, so don't be surprised when I call you out on your bullshit.
I'm not your bro dude.
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bleh it wasn't a "plan" or whatever everyone is making it out to be. I wanted the game to start immediately so I did something that was silly enough to comment on and the whole thing got taken way more seriously than I planned. But I didn't really care because I really do not mind being a topic of discussion, if anything it makes you more emotionally involved in the game. it was mostly a joke based on an assumption that everyone assumes everyone else reads the op and especially the role list.
I was not trying to convince anyone that I was actually a miller... but people started making it into a much bigger issue than I had planned so I just went along with it for a bit to see what would happen. I have seen people posting in this thread who say i'm town but also appear confused as to what I was trying to do... (mostly nothing other than get the game going)
I still dont think it was some awful, terrible play everyone is calling it but I'd rather take that up in the end game. I know this post isn't really related to the game but I'm getting a little annoyed seeing people talk about how I had a dumb townie plan when it wasn't really a 'plan' to begin with.
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