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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 19 2012 00:54 GMT
#5
/in
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 19 2012 20:23 GMT
#99
##Buy Bronze helm
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 19 2012 21:18 GMT
#126
##Equip Bronze helm
##Visit Leene's Bell
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 19 2012 21:50 GMT
#139
On November 20 2012 06:44 Promethelax wrote:
## Steal: Cave Johnson's swell helmet


##Attack with Wood Sword
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 19 2012 22:08 GMT
#152
On November 20 2012 06:55 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 06:50 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 20 2012 06:44 Promethelax wrote:
## Steal: Cave Johnson's swell helmet


##Attack with Wood Sword


## defend with homeless broken bottle fighting skills


Now I have enough tech...

##Cyclone: Promethelax
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 19 2012 22:22 GMT
#155
On November 20 2012 07:09 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 07:08 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 20 2012 06:55 Promethelax wrote:
On November 20 2012 06:50 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 20 2012 06:44 Promethelax wrote:
## Steal: Cave Johnson's swell helmet


##Attack with Wood Sword


## defend with homeless broken bottle fighting skills


Now I have enough tech...

##Cyclone: Promethelax


oh shit, I'm going to oz.


##Attack with Wood Sword

Victory - Find 200G

Equip: Bronze helm
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 19 2012 22:38 GMT
#159
Not so fast.

##Slurp kiss
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 09:22 GMT
#574
I just woke up to 200 messages in the thread so you are going to have to give me a while to read them.

Don't vote for me

Don't bring me on events (At least not this cycle)

We will need a Medic, Vigilante and probably someone with 999 hp for Lavos so if you can only use your ability once you might want to think about that.

I'll be back in a few hours. I just needed to /confirm
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 17:01 GMT
#781
On November 22 2012 00:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 18:22 CaveJohnson wrote:
I just woke up to 200 messages in the thread so you are going to have to give me a while to read them.

Don't vote for me

Don't bring me on events (At least not this cycle)

We will need a Medic, Vigilante and probably someone with 999 hp for Lavos so if you can only use your ability once you might want to think about that.

I'll be back in a few hours. I just needed to /confirm


Does it strike anyone else as odd that CaveJohnson mentioned an actual hp number? I've been trying to figure it out, but isn't this either a bad move as town (gives scum information about you) or .... some weird scum ploy that I can't see because I would need more information.


On November 22 2012 01:00 syllogism wrote:
Max hp in Chrono trigger the game is 999, that's likely all there is to that. Nothing worth pursuing


At least do the simple research on the game...

Anyway I dislike the dinosaur guy his early posts were all fluff his election campaign is a bigger joke than his reads (Intending to completely waste his vote) and he used the newbie excuse which is generally enough excuse to shoot someone.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 17:06 GMT
#786
On November 22 2012 02:04 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 02:01 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 00:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 21 2012 18:22 CaveJohnson wrote:
I just woke up to 200 messages in the thread so you are going to have to give me a while to read them.

Don't vote for me

Don't bring me on events (At least not this cycle)

We will need a Medic, Vigilante and probably someone with 999 hp for Lavos so if you can only use your ability once you might want to think about that.

I'll be back in a few hours. I just needed to /confirm


Does it strike anyone else as odd that CaveJohnson mentioned an actual hp number? I've been trying to figure it out, but isn't this either a bad move as town (gives scum information about you) or .... some weird scum ploy that I can't see because I would need more information.


On November 22 2012 01:00 syllogism wrote:
Max hp in Chrono trigger the game is 999, that's likely all there is to that. Nothing worth pursuing


At least do the simple research on the game...

Anyway I dislike the dinosaur guy his early posts were all fluff his election campaign is a bigger joke than his reads (Intending to completely waste his vote) and he used the newbie excuse which is generally enough excuse to shoot someone.

So you think a noob scum is blatantly going to come into the tread in the way he did?


Would't put it past another member of his team to tell him to do that.

We have all seen people emulate Blazinghand.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 17:32 GMT
#800
On November 22 2012 02:27 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 22 2012 02:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
*colours Cave in orange*

Can I have a legend for your color scheme?


orange is a scumread. Z-bo/Hapa were this colour end of day 1 in mario. Crossfire was in red when I died, for "i'm certain".

Cave comes in calling some fluffly nublet scum without actually calling him scum and for nebulous reasons. Supremely easy target. "his mafia team could have told him to do that" is nonsense too.


Easy target != wrong

Kill the easy targets before end game or you lose its simple game logic. Trying to go around that on day 1 is idiotic and foolish and you should know better.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 17:37 GMT
#803
On November 22 2012 02:33 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 02:32 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:27 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
*colours Cave in orange*

Can I have a legend for your color scheme?


orange is a scumread. Z-bo/Hapa were this colour end of day 1 in mario. Crossfire was in red when I died, for "i'm certain".

Cave comes in calling some fluffly nublet scum without actually calling him scum and for nebulous reasons. Supremely easy target. "his mafia team could have told him to do that" is nonsense too.


Easy target != wrong

Kill the easy targets before end game or you lose its simple game logic. Trying to go around that on day 1 is idiotic and foolish and you should know better.


obviously you misunderstand what I say, but do carry on.

Easy target as in he's new and fluffy.

Technically you're an easy target too, but I still think you're scum.


The new and fluffy will have to die as well. We don't need complications in the end game.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 17:39 GMT
#807
On November 22 2012 02:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 02:37 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:33 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:32 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:27 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
*colours Cave in orange*

Can I have a legend for your color scheme?


orange is a scumread. Z-bo/Hapa were this colour end of day 1 in mario. Crossfire was in red when I died, for "i'm certain".

Cave comes in calling some fluffly nublet scum without actually calling him scum and for nebulous reasons. Supremely easy target. "his mafia team could have told him to do that" is nonsense too.


Easy target != wrong

Kill the easy targets before end game or you lose its simple game logic. Trying to go around that on day 1 is idiotic and foolish and you should know better.


obviously you misunderstand what I say, but do carry on.

Easy target as in he's new and fluffy.

Technically you're an easy target too, but I still think you're scum.


The new and fluffy will have to die as well. We don't need complications in the end game.


Excellent, more wanting to kill people for reasons that aren't that they are scum.

New and fluffy != scum (to use your construction) and we want to kill scum, dear.

Anything else?


No point killing scum if you can't kill Lavos
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 17:45 GMT
#811
On November 22 2012 02:40 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 02:39 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:38 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:37 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:33 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:32 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:27 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
*colours Cave in orange*

Can I have a legend for your color scheme?


orange is a scumread. Z-bo/Hapa were this colour end of day 1 in mario. Crossfire was in red when I died, for "i'm certain".

Cave comes in calling some fluffly nublet scum without actually calling him scum and for nebulous reasons. Supremely easy target. "his mafia team could have told him to do that" is nonsense too.


Easy target != wrong

Kill the easy targets before end game or you lose its simple game logic. Trying to go around that on day 1 is idiotic and foolish and you should know better.


obviously you misunderstand what I say, but do carry on.

Easy target as in he's new and fluffy.

Technically you're an easy target too, but I still think you're scum.


The new and fluffy will have to die as well. We don't need complications in the end game.


Excellent, more wanting to kill people for reasons that aren't that they are scum.

New and fluffy != scum (to use your construction) and we want to kill scum, dear.

Anything else?


No point killing scum if you can't kill Lavos


What's that got to do with being new and fluffy?


New and fluffy are harder to read and likely to make mistakes. If they prove themselves to be town and competent somehow: Wonderful. However if they fail to do that they need to go down before the end game. So far I don't ever see the dinosaur changing and so he's on my needs to die list.

Before you call me an easy target again I am including myself in the needs to die before end game list since I'm smurfing.
Mafia smurf
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 17:47 GMT
#812
On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal.


Revealing my identity would be so destructive that I may as well have been a scum member. Its not happening.

I'll explain the reasoning next cycle.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 17:53 GMT
#815
On November 22 2012 02:49 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 02:47 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal.


Revealing my identity would be so destructive that I may as well have been a scum member. Its not happening.

I'll explain the reasoning next cycle.


Right. In any case you have effectively made yourself completely useless and non-functional until you do so.


You know better than to ignore people as well.

Colour me disappointed.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 17:53 GMT
#818
On November 22 2012 02:51 Acrofales wrote:
Cave, are you Drazerk?


Nope keep guessing
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 18:00 GMT
#821
On November 22 2012 02:56 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 02:53 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:49 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:47 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal.


Revealing my identity would be so destructive that I may as well have been a scum member. Its not happening.

I'll explain the reasoning next cycle.


Right. In any case you have effectively made yourself completely useless and non-functional until you do so.


You know better than to ignore people as well.

Colour me disappointed.


You are playing absolutely without a town agenda. In addition there is some promise for future explanation for your play.

The current, likely explanation is that you're scum playing with a scum agenda.

Until you start playing with the goal of killing scum and/or explain yourself, then yes you are effectively useless.


I play to win. You cannot win without an end game plan.

I gave no promise of explanations for my play (Nor will I ever) but an explanation to my role. Perhaps you should read the conversation before you speak.

Honestly you're moving up on the kill list rather quickly...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 18:03 GMT
#825
On November 22 2012 03:02 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 03:00 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:56 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:53 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:49 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:47 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal.


Revealing my identity would be so destructive that I may as well have been a scum member. Its not happening.

I'll explain the reasoning next cycle.


Right. In any case you have effectively made yourself completely useless and non-functional until you do so.


You know better than to ignore people as well.

Colour me disappointed.


You are playing absolutely without a town agenda. In addition there is some promise for future explanation for your play.

The current, likely explanation is that you're scum playing with a scum agenda.

Until you start playing with the goal of killing scum and/or explain yourself, then yes you are effectively useless.


I play to win. You cannot win without an end game plan.

I gave no promise of explanations for my play (Nor will I ever) but an explanation to my role. Perhaps you should read the conversation before you speak.

Honestly you're moving up on the kill list rather quickly...


you're awfully patronising for someone who is clearly a weak player.


Your play so far speaks volumes to me as well
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 18:16 GMT
#834
On November 22 2012 03:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 03:10 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:04 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:06 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 22 2012 01:14 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 00:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
kush makes me want to shout at him in every single post...

Ok for now, I think the party leader should be toadesstern because
He started off his post with a scumread, which shows effort in reading the thread instead of mindlessly posting without actually analysing anything like almost every player so far.
His posts look really sincere and his logic is spot on

On November 21 2012 17:13 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh and I forgot: Yeah we need to find someone to send d1 and that's all nice and fine but I don't think it's a good way to keep the talk all focused on only that.

Faking townreads as mafias is incredibly easy. Faking mafiareads as mafia is something that takes effort. If we're only going to talk about who we're going to send d1 we're giving mafia an incredibly easy time skating by.
I know it feels counterintuitive as clearly the shortterm "goal" is to send a good guy d1 but I think we should try and balance those issues out. After all, the goal in the longrun is to figure people out and we won't be able to do that by playing nice all day long.


His posts look really hard to fake for scum and because of his reputation as being imba, I am voting Toadesstern

##Vote: Toadsstern


You clearly don't know toad at all. You don't even know toad's reputation.

1. Toad is notoriously hard to read. He posts giant walls of text that ramble on as either alignment and gets into hissyfits with whoever he feels like (most notoriously bugs and VE) as either alignment.
2. If he is imba, he is imba as scum, not so much as town. Personal opinion here, but I haven't seen toad make the difference as town. Unlike some other players in this game.

Now on to the beef of your post: why exactly do you feel his posts are hard to fake as scum? What specific quality makes you lean town on him? So far I am seeing you park your vote in a similar manner to Keirathi, for a similar reason.


Last time I had to gather people I was some sort of mason who get's to invite people each and every night to join his QT resulting in the QT growing in number every cycle and having an incredibly powerfull town-circle.
I think I picked something like 5 townies straight without a problem at all, including people like WBG who are notoriously hard to read according to most people here. The only mistake I made was when I gambled in lategame as we had 2 Kenpachi-like people (real Kenpachi and someone like Kenpachi) who didn't play the game while not being able to get a read on Marv as well. I picked Marv because I figured that if neither of those 2 Kenpachis is mafia we've lost anyways because one of them will get lynched at some point and it already was lylo.

So yeah I think I'm pretty decent when it comes to that as well. I agree I'm by no way the best scumhunter around and I'm mostly working by process of elimination but that's because I trust in my townreads so heavily and they're never wrong.
So yeah I think I'm the right guy for the job.


Not saying you're not. Just that I have reservations voting for you, and correcting the jubjubs as to your reputation. I've seen you play good as town. I've seen you play better as scum. I saw you are running and I like that. What makes you a better candidate than syllo or sandro?

I don't think anyone in here can claim to be better than Syllo or sandro when it comes to reads if that's what you're asking.
However unlike Syllo and Sandro I'm someone who's pretty talkactive and I will get people talking about reads.

Syllo and Sandro both tend to be pretty lazy threadwise and I don't think that that's something we want for someone who's running for the d1 spot.


I don't really see syllogism as lazy. Not his play so far anyway.


On November 21 2012 15:28 syllogism wrote:
Oh Sandro is here and posting quite a bit, I may re-evaluate my nomination if I like what I see as I would definitely prefer being as lazy as possible

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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 18:24 GMT
#838
On November 22 2012 03:17 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 03:16 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:10 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:04 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:06 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 22 2012 01:14 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 00:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
kush makes me want to shout at him in every single post...

Ok for now, I think the party leader should be toadesstern because
He started off his post with a scumread, which shows effort in reading the thread instead of mindlessly posting without actually analysing anything like almost every player so far.
His posts look really sincere and his logic is spot on

On November 21 2012 17:13 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh and I forgot: Yeah we need to find someone to send d1 and that's all nice and fine but I don't think it's a good way to keep the talk all focused on only that.

Faking townreads as mafias is incredibly easy. Faking mafiareads as mafia is something that takes effort. If we're only going to talk about who we're going to send d1 we're giving mafia an incredibly easy time skating by.
I know it feels counterintuitive as clearly the shortterm "goal" is to send a good guy d1 but I think we should try and balance those issues out. After all, the goal in the longrun is to figure people out and we won't be able to do that by playing nice all day long.


His posts look really hard to fake for scum and because of his reputation as being imba, I am voting Toadesstern

##Vote: Toadsstern


You clearly don't know toad at all. You don't even know toad's reputation.

1. Toad is notoriously hard to read. He posts giant walls of text that ramble on as either alignment and gets into hissyfits with whoever he feels like (most notoriously bugs and VE) as either alignment.
2. If he is imba, he is imba as scum, not so much as town. Personal opinion here, but I haven't seen toad make the difference as town. Unlike some other players in this game.

Now on to the beef of your post: why exactly do you feel his posts are hard to fake as scum? What specific quality makes you lean town on him? So far I am seeing you park your vote in a similar manner to Keirathi, for a similar reason.


Last time I had to gather people I was some sort of mason who get's to invite people each and every night to join his QT resulting in the QT growing in number every cycle and having an incredibly powerfull town-circle.
I think I picked something like 5 townies straight without a problem at all, including people like WBG who are notoriously hard to read according to most people here. The only mistake I made was when I gambled in lategame as we had 2 Kenpachi-like people (real Kenpachi and someone like Kenpachi) who didn't play the game while not being able to get a read on Marv as well. I picked Marv because I figured that if neither of those 2 Kenpachis is mafia we've lost anyways because one of them will get lynched at some point and it already was lylo.

So yeah I think I'm pretty decent when it comes to that as well. I agree I'm by no way the best scumhunter around and I'm mostly working by process of elimination but that's because I trust in my townreads so heavily and they're never wrong.
So yeah I think I'm the right guy for the job.


Not saying you're not. Just that I have reservations voting for you, and correcting the jubjubs as to your reputation. I've seen you play good as town. I've seen you play better as scum. I saw you are running and I like that. What makes you a better candidate than syllo or sandro?

I don't think anyone in here can claim to be better than Syllo or sandro when it comes to reads if that's what you're asking.
However unlike Syllo and Sandro I'm someone who's pretty talkactive and I will get people talking about reads.

Syllo and Sandro both tend to be pretty lazy threadwise and I don't think that that's something we want for someone who's running for the d1 spot.


I don't really see syllogism as lazy. Not his play so far anyway.


On November 21 2012 15:28 syllogism wrote:
Oh Sandro is here and posting quite a bit, I may re-evaluate my nomination if I like what I see as I would definitely prefer being as lazy as possible



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On November 21 2012 22:55 sandroba wrote:
On November 21 2012 22:51 marvellosity wrote:
On November 21 2012 22:50 sandroba wrote:
I wouldn't mind syllo being leader either and if I win I will give him veto power over the people I choose. I'm fairly certain he is town at this point.


what distinguishes a town syllo from a scum syllo in your opinion?

He is way less conflict enticing / questions asking as scum and just chillax and agrees with people that are the right track. This game he says he will be lazy, but isn't and is activily doing shit left and right. So yeah.




I'll take the wishes of the actual player over an interpretation of play from someone who is being supported by the player in question.

Syllo has chosen himself to be taken out of the running and we should respect that.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 21 2012 18:36 GMT
#845
On November 22 2012 03:28 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 03:24 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:17 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:16 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:10 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:04 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:06 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 22 2012 01:14 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 00:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
kush makes me want to shout at him in every single post...

Ok for now, I think the party leader should be toadesstern because
He started off his post with a scumread, which shows effort in reading the thread instead of mindlessly posting without actually analysing anything like almost every player so far.
His posts look really sincere and his logic is spot on

[quote]

His posts look really hard to fake for scum and because of his reputation as being imba, I am voting Toadesstern

##Vote: Toadsstern


You clearly don't know toad at all. You don't even know toad's reputation.

1. Toad is notoriously hard to read. He posts giant walls of text that ramble on as either alignment and gets into hissyfits with whoever he feels like (most notoriously bugs and VE) as either alignment.
2. If he is imba, he is imba as scum, not so much as town. Personal opinion here, but I haven't seen toad make the difference as town. Unlike some other players in this game.

Now on to the beef of your post: why exactly do you feel his posts are hard to fake as scum? What specific quality makes you lean town on him? So far I am seeing you park your vote in a similar manner to Keirathi, for a similar reason.


Last time I had to gather people I was some sort of mason who get's to invite people each and every night to join his QT resulting in the QT growing in number every cycle and having an incredibly powerfull town-circle.
I think I picked something like 5 townies straight without a problem at all, including people like WBG who are notoriously hard to read according to most people here. The only mistake I made was when I gambled in lategame as we had 2 Kenpachi-like people (real Kenpachi and someone like Kenpachi) who didn't play the game while not being able to get a read on Marv as well. I picked Marv because I figured that if neither of those 2 Kenpachis is mafia we've lost anyways because one of them will get lynched at some point and it already was lylo.

So yeah I think I'm pretty decent when it comes to that as well. I agree I'm by no way the best scumhunter around and I'm mostly working by process of elimination but that's because I trust in my townreads so heavily and they're never wrong.
So yeah I think I'm the right guy for the job.


Not saying you're not. Just that I have reservations voting for you, and correcting the jubjubs as to your reputation. I've seen you play good as town. I've seen you play better as scum. I saw you are running and I like that. What makes you a better candidate than syllo or sandro?

I don't think anyone in here can claim to be better than Syllo or sandro when it comes to reads if that's what you're asking.
However unlike Syllo and Sandro I'm someone who's pretty talkactive and I will get people talking about reads.

Syllo and Sandro both tend to be pretty lazy threadwise and I don't think that that's something we want for someone who's running for the d1 spot.


I don't really see syllogism as lazy. Not his play so far anyway.


On November 21 2012 15:28 syllogism wrote:
Oh Sandro is here and posting quite a bit, I may re-evaluate my nomination if I like what I see as I would definitely prefer being as lazy as possible



On November 21 2012 22:55 sandroba wrote:
On November 21 2012 22:51 marvellosity wrote:
On November 21 2012 22:50 sandroba wrote:
I wouldn't mind syllo being leader either and if I win I will give him veto power over the people I choose. I'm fairly certain he is town at this point.


what distinguishes a town syllo from a scum syllo in your opinion?

He is way less conflict enticing / questions asking as scum and just chillax and agrees with people that are the right track. This game he says he will be lazy, but isn't and is activily doing shit left and right. So yeah.




I'll take the wishes of the actual player over an interpretation of play from someone who is being supported by the player in question.

Syllo has chosen himself to be taken out of the running and we should respect that.


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On November 21 2012 22:45 syllogism wrote:
Right now it is likely that I will support sandroba if I do not gain the necessary votes, even if I'm not "fairly sure" that he is town. The problem is that just electing someone who is very likely to be town isn't enough as the person has to also be able to identify 3 townies at a high enough probability on day 1. Anyway, currently it would definitely optimal from my point of view that I would be elected over him due to my uncertainty. I'm not likely to put effort into convincing sandroba voters to switch to me, if that's what you mean by running, but I'm definitely "running" in the sense that I wouldn't mind people voting for me.


Last time I respond to you. You clearly don't read the thread.



He doesn't care to convince people - Thats taking himself out of the running.

You clearly don't read the thread
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CaveJohnson
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November 21 2012 18:41 GMT
#849
On November 22 2012 03:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On November 22 2012 03:36 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:28 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:24 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:17 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:16 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:10 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:04 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:06 Toadesstern wrote:
[quote]

Last time I had to gather people I was some sort of mason who get's to invite people each and every night to join his QT resulting in the QT growing in number every cycle and having an incredibly powerfull town-circle.
I think I picked something like 5 townies straight without a problem at all, including people like WBG who are notoriously hard to read according to most people here. The only mistake I made was when I gambled in lategame as we had 2 Kenpachi-like people (real Kenpachi and someone like Kenpachi) who didn't play the game while not being able to get a read on Marv as well. I picked Marv because I figured that if neither of those 2 Kenpachis is mafia we've lost anyways because one of them will get lynched at some point and it already was lylo.

So yeah I think I'm pretty decent when it comes to that as well. I agree I'm by no way the best scumhunter around and I'm mostly working by process of elimination but that's because I trust in my townreads so heavily and they're never wrong.
So yeah I think I'm the right guy for the job.


Not saying you're not. Just that I have reservations voting for you, and correcting the jubjubs as to your reputation. I've seen you play good as town. I've seen you play better as scum. I saw you are running and I like that. What makes you a better candidate than syllo or sandro?

I don't think anyone in here can claim to be better than Syllo or sandro when it comes to reads if that's what you're asking.
However unlike Syllo and Sandro I'm someone who's pretty talkactive and I will get people talking about reads.

Syllo and Sandro both tend to be pretty lazy threadwise and I don't think that that's something we want for someone who's running for the d1 spot.


I don't really see syllogism as lazy. Not his play so far anyway.


On November 21 2012 15:28 syllogism wrote:
Oh Sandro is here and posting quite a bit, I may re-evaluate my nomination if I like what I see as I would definitely prefer being as lazy as possible



On November 21 2012 22:55 sandroba wrote:
On November 21 2012 22:51 marvellosity wrote:
On November 21 2012 22:50 sandroba wrote:
I wouldn't mind syllo being leader either and if I win I will give him veto power over the people I choose. I'm fairly certain he is town at this point.


what distinguishes a town syllo from a scum syllo in your opinion?

He is way less conflict enticing / questions asking as scum and just chillax and agrees with people that are the right track. This game he says he will be lazy, but isn't and is activily doing shit left and right. So yeah.




I'll take the wishes of the actual player over an interpretation of play from someone who is being supported by the player in question.

Syllo has chosen himself to be taken out of the running and we should respect that.


On November 21 2012 22:45 syllogism wrote:
Right now it is likely that I will support sandroba if I do not gain the necessary votes, even if I'm not "fairly sure" that he is town. The problem is that just electing someone who is very likely to be town isn't enough as the person has to also be able to identify 3 townies at a high enough probability on day 1. Anyway, currently it would definitely optimal from my point of view that I would be elected over him due to my uncertainty. I'm not likely to put effort into convincing sandroba voters to switch to me, if that's what you mean by running, but I'm definitely "running" in the sense that I wouldn't mind people voting for me.


Last time I respond to you. You clearly don't read the thread.



He doesn't care to convince people - Thats taking himself out of the running.

You clearly don't read the thread

Since I'm hoping marv keeps himself in check,
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I'm not likely to put effort into convincing sandroba voters to switch to me, if that's what you mean by running


If I ran, he'd probably be trying to get votes FROM me onto himself. But I'm not running. Sandroba is running, and syllo is a-okay with people voting sandroba.


Splitting votes is a silly idea in that situation. It would have to take Sand stepping down and you gaining a majority for Syllo to actually run properly.
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CaveJohnson
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November 21 2012 18:51 GMT
#852
On November 22 2012 03:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On November 22 2012 03:41 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:36 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:28 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:24 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:17 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:16 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:10 Toadesstern wrote:
[quote]
I don't think anyone in here can claim to be better than Syllo or sandro when it comes to reads if that's what you're asking.
However unlike Syllo and Sandro I'm someone who's pretty talkactive and I will get people talking about reads.

Syllo and Sandro both tend to be pretty lazy threadwise and I don't think that that's something we want for someone who's running for the d1 spot.


I don't really see syllogism as lazy. Not his play so far anyway.


On November 21 2012 15:28 syllogism wrote:
Oh Sandro is here and posting quite a bit, I may re-evaluate my nomination if I like what I see as I would definitely prefer being as lazy as possible



On November 21 2012 22:55 sandroba wrote:
On November 21 2012 22:51 marvellosity wrote:
On November 21 2012 22:50 sandroba wrote:
I wouldn't mind syllo being leader either and if I win I will give him veto power over the people I choose. I'm fairly certain he is town at this point.


what distinguishes a town syllo from a scum syllo in your opinion?

He is way less conflict enticing / questions asking as scum and just chillax and agrees with people that are the right track. This game he says he will be lazy, but isn't and is activily doing shit left and right. So yeah.




I'll take the wishes of the actual player over an interpretation of play from someone who is being supported by the player in question.

Syllo has chosen himself to be taken out of the running and we should respect that.


On November 21 2012 22:45 syllogism wrote:
Right now it is likely that I will support sandroba if I do not gain the necessary votes, even if I'm not "fairly sure" that he is town. The problem is that just electing someone who is very likely to be town isn't enough as the person has to also be able to identify 3 townies at a high enough probability on day 1. Anyway, currently it would definitely optimal from my point of view that I would be elected over him due to my uncertainty. I'm not likely to put effort into convincing sandroba voters to switch to me, if that's what you mean by running, but I'm definitely "running" in the sense that I wouldn't mind people voting for me.


Last time I respond to you. You clearly don't read the thread.



He doesn't care to convince people - Thats taking himself out of the running.

You clearly don't read the thread

Since I'm hoping marv keeps himself in check,

I'm not likely to put effort into convincing sandroba voters to switch to me, if that's what you mean by running


If I ran, he'd probably be trying to get votes FROM me onto himself. But I'm not running. Sandroba is running, and syllo is a-okay with people voting sandroba.


Splitting votes is a silly idea in that situation. It would have to take Sand stepping down and you gaining a majority for Syllo to actually run properly.

I meant that if we hypothetically replaced sandroba with myself, syllo would step up his game. Your whole thing about syllo being lazy and scummy is mis-representative of what has been put into the thread because he's not removing himself in general, he's removing competition for sandroba.


I never said he was scummy I just don't believe we should be wasting our votes on someone who doesn't care to put in the effort and should be ignoring him as a viable candidate while Sandroba is in the running.
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CaveJohnson
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November 21 2012 19:19 GMT
#861
Strong you are probably better off doing all those quotes into one post that you do at the end of reading the thread considering the size of this.

<3
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CaveJohnson
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November 21 2012 20:00 GMT
#873
On November 22 2012 04:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
@ Cavejohnson

While I appreciate the fact that you're trying to "think of the endgame" we don't know what an endgame will look like at all in this format. We don't know how many (if any at all) lynches we'll have. For all we know there is no such thing as lylo. Yet you are suggesting we get rid of people who give off a newb town vibe because they might be a problem later?
Seriously, our win con is defeating Lavos, with a secondary objective of killing scum. How will getting rid of a newb towny help town?


lylo still exists in these two forms:

Either when mafia could out number us
Or we don't have the tools to kill lavos

We don't know what it takes to kill lavos except I presume for firepower. Of course the success of the missions will also impact this. We don't want to have to fight lavos in the ocean palace for example because we failed too many.

I want the newbies to prove themselves like any other but that may not be possible when one false move could easily screw us up on either one of those conditions. This game will be so chaotic that one false move means a loss so we can't afford risks at any point in the game.
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CaveJohnson
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November 21 2012 20:14 GMT
#876
On November 22 2012 05:04 Clarity_nl wrote:
Why will this game be so chaotic that no one is allowed to make a mistake? You lost me completely.
You say the only definite thing we need for Lavos (endgame, win condition) is firepower. But you think of newb townies as a liability, rather than an asset? Yes of course if they contribute more/better that will help, but do you really believe you're going about this the right way?

Lylo is lynch or lose. It MIGHT not apply to this game. You're talking about reaching a state where town cannot win, there is a difference.


Fail in one event the time line changes we become weaker and the events become harder - one mistake can cause that shift in power. Lets not forget people can send in their night actions at any point when they may not have all the information available to them causing even more issues down the road.

I'm probably approaching newbs the wrong way but hopefully they realise they need to really focus if they want to win in this game.
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CaveJohnson
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November 21 2012 20:20 GMT
#877
On November 22 2012 05:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On November 22 2012 05:00 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 22 2012 04:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
@ Cavejohnson

While I appreciate the fact that you're trying to "think of the endgame" we don't know what an endgame will look like at all in this format. We don't know how many (if any at all) lynches we'll have. For all we know there is no such thing as lylo. Yet you are suggesting we get rid of people who give off a newb town vibe because they might be a problem later?
Seriously, our win con is defeating Lavos, with a secondary objective of killing scum. How will getting rid of a newb towny help town?


lylo still exists in these two forms:

Either when mafia could out number us
Or we don't have the tools to kill lavos

We don't know what it takes to kill lavos except I presume for firepower. Of course the success of the missions will also impact this. We don't want to have to fight lavos in the ocean palace for example because we failed too many.

I want the newbies to prove themselves like any other but that may not be possible when one false move could easily screw us up on either one of those conditions. This game will be so chaotic that one false move means a loss so we can't afford risks at any point in the game.

Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 09:43 GreYMisT wrote:
Setup Information

Mafia: Kill ALL town and have 1 mafia left alive


Does anyone get a feeling of a scum mad hatter from that condition (We could also explore the possibility of an event killing everyone at once I guess)?

Also if scum outnumber town it generally leads to them killing all the town not always I'll admit but its a rule of thumb I'm going to stick with to keep some sanity.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 21 2012 20:26 GMT
#881
On November 22 2012 05:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
Okay, so walk me through how failing an event will be a newbie's fault. Especially if you know they're newbies.


When all the "vets" are dead with only them alive do you really believe they will have the knowledge and experience to make the correct choice?
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CaveJohnson
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November 21 2012 22:03 GMT
#967
On November 22 2012 06:51 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 22 2012 06:46 iamperfection wrote:
@ Marv

What do you think of bios town read on you. I think it is bs and it seems like to me it was a pre calculated move to come into the thread with. I dont see how anyone can drop a strong town read and i can see you easily saying that quote in his post regardless of alignment

Bios post also doesn't say much at all just that he doesn't have a problem what is going on.

Im thinking scum


Clarity - Cave is still bad or scum or both, and the important thing is that he doesn't get invited on today's event.


Read my first post and pretty much the last page and a bit of discussion...

Anyway I'm gonna sleep I'll probably cast my vote in the morning after I sleep on a few things.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 22 2012 17:46 GMT
#1376
I blame Acro for this post but apparently my posting is too unique it doesn't work anyway and I feel I need to explain a few things to keep Acro / S+B being murdered because they know me too well.

I claim Drazerk the Invoker Chef


I prepare dishes far and wide and have learnt techniques lost in time. I have 27 1 time use abilities and 1 multiple use ability but I can't use any if I go on a mission. So far I know 2 of my abilities (THEY ARE SO GOOOOOOOD) and can gain the knowledge of 2 more each cycle (although I can technically use any ability without knowing what it does but I'm not that insane).

My success modifier is 4 which is too low to justify not using either of my 2 abilities I already have.

Also I still dislike Marv / DJ and I think any votes for Syllo is a vote wasted. However there is at least 1 third party in the game judging by my flavour (I can handle them myself before you ask).

Now to read what I've missed.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 22 2012 17:52 GMT
#1386
On November 23 2012 02:51 syllogism wrote:
I don't see why you would know your success modifier and why do you think 4 is low? I assume that is a third party claim, what do you claim your win con to be?


I'm town sadly
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CaveJohnson
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November 22 2012 17:58 GMT
#1393
On November 23 2012 02:55 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 23 2012 02:52 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 23 2012 02:51 syllogism wrote:
I don't see why you would know your success modifier and why do you think 4 is low? I assume that is a third party claim, what do you claim your win con to be?


I'm town sadly


you didn't answer any of his questions.


Read the OP and maybe you will find I did

as for why 4 is low we have already had several claims in thread mine isn't the lowest but I'm not giving up near immortality for it.
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CaveJohnson
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November 22 2012 17:59 GMT
#1394
On November 23 2012 02:56 phagga wrote:
Kush is now on my "never-play-with-him-again"-list.

@CaveJohnson I'm confused, are you Drazerk and your role name is The Chef or is your role name Drazerk?


the former
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CaveJohnson
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November 22 2012 18:01 GMT
#1397
On November 23 2012 03:00 marvellosity wrote:
whose claims have we had?


I've seen 3s flying around I can't remember who actually said them but there have been claims
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CaveJohnson
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November 22 2012 18:04 GMT
#1404
On November 23 2012 03:03 marvellosity wrote:
As usual Drazerk is just making shit up as he goes along.

http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Invoker - Enjoy



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CaveJohnson
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November 22 2012 18:07 GMT
#1410
On November 23 2012 03:04 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 23 2012 03:04 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 23 2012 03:03 marvellosity wrote:
As usual Drazerk is just making shit up as he goes along.

http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Invoker - Enjoy





all that implies is that you're going to help throw the game for town, thus cementing your position as an awful player and humiliating yourself.

go ahead.


Stop tunneling and actually think
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CaveJohnson
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November 22 2012 18:08 GMT
#1412
On November 23 2012 03:07 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 03:04 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 23 2012 03:03 marvellosity wrote:
As usual Drazerk is just making shit up as he goes along.

http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Invoker - Enjoy






So you claim to have a role that does not fit into the Chrono Trigger lore?

Why did you feel the need to claim your role? Would it not have been enough to just claim your real identity?


"I have my reasons"
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CaveJohnson
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November 22 2012 18:13 GMT
#1420
On November 23 2012 03:10 marvellosity wrote:
I think we're better off ignoring Cave for now. From the games I've seen him in he plays anti-town regardless of his alignment and he seems to be doing the same here.


When I attack you its anti town - Cool
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CaveJohnson
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November 22 2012 18:16 GMT
#1427
On November 23 2012 03:14 syllogism wrote:
I confirmed that nothing in the OP is a lie, including this line

"Each character in the game is assigned a hidden number value"

Drazerk, or whoever you are, if you are somehow town I'm pretty certain that I'm never joining a game with you again.



You are not taking me on missions without me killing you. If I lie I'll lie hopefully we'll catch people from it but apparently you don't understand baits.
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CaveJohnson
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November 22 2012 20:12 GMT
#1514
On November 23 2012 04:58 Hapahauli wrote:
yaaaaay another sheeper.

Well I hope that Syllo is town for our sake


I'm just taking the enemy of my enemy approach with this election. Might be worth doing the same for consolidation
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CaveJohnson
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November 22 2012 20:34 GMT
#1518
On November 23 2012 05:26 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Marv

Who are you currently supporting? I've seen you tear down a bunch of campaigns, but you've proposed no alternative yourself.

@ Cave Johnson
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On November 23 2012 05:12 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 23 2012 04:58 Hapahauli wrote:
yaaaaay another sheeper.

Well I hope that Syllo is town for our sake


I'm just taking the enemy of my enemy approach with this election. Might be worth doing the same for consolidation


Yes let's sheep a guy without thinking about his alignment because we think the other guy is scum. Nevermind making a read on the guy we're voting, let's just consolidate.

Someone needs to shoot/attack/kill/whatever this guy.


Anyone is better than someone you believe is scum.
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CaveJohnson
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November 22 2012 20:49 GMT
#1528
On November 23 2012 05:48 marvellosity wrote:
what matters? it matters that we know you're sending in your night actions?


so he can't say he "forgot" to send them in like so many people do in themed games.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 23 2012 00:05 GMT
#1678
I took 25 damage which is to be expected I probably did more damage to them.

Gonna sleep - Enjoy your turkey day Americans
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 23 2012 00:08 GMT
#1684
On November 23 2012 09:07 marvellosity wrote:
Screw you all taking piddling amounts of damage. If mine was town inflicted I'm gonna be an unhappy bunny.


Did you attack me?
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 23 2012 00:08 GMT
#1685
It would actually explain the damage
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CaveJohnson
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November 23 2012 00:12 GMT
#1695
On November 23 2012 09:08 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 23 2012 09:08 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 23 2012 09:07 marvellosity wrote:
Screw you all taking piddling amounts of damage. If mine was town inflicted I'm gonna be an unhappy bunny.


Did you attack me?


I don't have an attacked and I was roleblocked, so no.


Huh I thought I would be the one to get roleblocked...

Anyway going for real this time
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CaveJohnson
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November 23 2012 09:14 GMT
#1836
People who vote for me don't want to vote for scum - It happens every game just see what you can get from the lynch information afterwards - I'm out for a few hours toodaloo.
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CaveJohnson
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November 24 2012 00:37 GMT
#2165
Sorry VE I can't allow you to do that...

##Spicy Jerky: VisceraEyes
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 00:39 GMT
#2166
Also I'll read the thread now I promise... its been an interesting day for me.
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CaveJohnson
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November 24 2012 00:44 GMT
#2168
Its ok I've already used that one VE
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CaveJohnson
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November 24 2012 01:28 GMT
#2174
Kita - Spicy jerky is the equivalent of the Invoker ability betrayal its one of four abilities I know the actual effect of, I won't know any more until tomorrow. (Yes I used it last night hence why I asked marv if he attacked me)

Also I generally don't troll (Except to VE) people just don't understand my line of thinking and it gets mistaken as trolling. I understand that I cause mayhem and distractions and that is why I vanished today, in order to allow discussion that wasn't just on me (You got 3 other targets if I was posting you'd probably have only me) in my eyes it was the right thing to do even if you are going to spin it into self preservation bullshit now.

Final note which is a firm belief of mine "Scum never make mistakes - Town do".
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CaveJohnson
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November 24 2012 01:52 GMT
#2183
On November 24 2012 10:33 kitaman27 wrote:
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On November 24 2012 10:28 CaveJohnson wrote:
Kita - Spicy jerky is the equivalent of the Invoker ability betrayal its one of four abilities I know the actual effect of, I won't know any more until tomorrow. (Yes I used it last night hence why I asked marv if he attacked me)

I understand that I cause mayhem and distractions and that is why I vanished today, in order to allow discussion that wasn't just on me.


To make things clear, you're sticking with the story that you know your sucess modifier? You're sticking with your story that you are a chef who knows about a third party character?

I want the exact description of all your roles or I'm not going to be satisfied. If you truly care about not causing a distraction, list everything you know, your intentions, and your suspects today.

If you're going to come up with excuses and disappear, you're only making things worse.


I know someone is after one of my foods (I don't know which and I don't know if they are third party its just likely to me)
I have the dota equivalent to the following - Lightning shield, Firestorm and Chaos meteor.

My intention is to survive to end game and win with town. That is the same as anyone else who is town... I may have extra abilities to do it but I don't know how often I'll gain preventive abilities. Suspect wise I lean TC but I'm interesting in prom.

You know you are never going to be happy with me though. So I'm not really sure what exactly you are looking for.
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CaveJohnson
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November 24 2012 02:00 GMT
#2185
On November 24 2012 10:55 kitaman27 wrote:
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On November 24 2012 10:52 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 24 2012 10:33 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 24 2012 10:28 CaveJohnson wrote:
Kita - Spicy jerky is the equivalent of the Invoker ability betrayal its one of four abilities I know the actual effect of, I won't know any more until tomorrow. (Yes I used it last night hence why I asked marv if he attacked me)

I understand that I cause mayhem and distractions and that is why I vanished today, in order to allow discussion that wasn't just on me.


To make things clear, you're sticking with the story that you know your sucess modifier? You're sticking with your story that you are a chef who knows about a third party character?

I want the exact description of all your roles or I'm not going to be satisfied. If you truly care about not causing a distraction, list everything you know, your intentions, and your suspects today.

If you're going to come up with excuses and disappear, you're only making things worse.


I know someone is after one of my foods (I don't know which and I don't know if they are third party its just likely to me)
I have the dota equivalent to the following - Lightning shield, Firestorm and Chaos meteor.

My intention is to survive to end game and win with town. That is the same as anyone else who is town... I may have extra abilities to do it but I don't know how often I'll gain preventive abilities. Suspect wise I lean TC but I'm interesting in prom.

You know you are never going to be happy with me though. So I'm not really sure what exactly you are looking for.


So let me get this straight. You knew a person was after your food, so in order to increase your chances of survival, you decide to role claim that you are the chef? Could you walk me through your thought process?

To understand correctly, you are claiming third party, but seek to work with town to achieve your objectives?


No I'm town

I thought I could kill them with betrayal and get them out of the game early. I don't think how do you not know that yet.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 20:52 GMT
#2572
Is toad a reverse fool?

also Hi sorry for my absence.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 20:59 GMT
#2577
On November 25 2012 05:57 Acrofales wrote:
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On November 25 2012 05:52 CaveJohnson wrote:
Is toad a reverse fool?

also Hi sorry for my absence.

Where were you? Also, I asked questions about your claim. Kita asked questions about your claim. I think there's a general consensus that it's bollocks. Unsurprising. You need a new approach to shocking town.


My approach this game is to tell the truth then shock you with my flip
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 21:06 GMT
#2582
On November 25 2012 05:57 goodkarma wrote:
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On November 25 2012 05:52 CaveJohnson wrote:
Is toad a reverse fool?

also Hi sorry for my absence.


Don't apologize. We've come to expect you to contribute nothing of value.


Maybe provide an actual opinion and vote? That would be nice.


Probably do it closer to the deadline. Which ever wagon I join will be hampered just by my presence.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 21:10 GMT
#2585
On November 25 2012 06:08 Acrofales wrote:
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On November 25 2012 06:06 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 05:57 goodkarma wrote:
On November 25 2012 05:52 CaveJohnson wrote:
Is toad a reverse fool?

also Hi sorry for my absence.


Don't apologize. We've come to expect you to contribute nothing of value.


Maybe provide an actual opinion and vote? That would be nice.


Probably do it closer to the deadline. Which ever wagon I join will be hampered just by my presence.

Yadda yadda yadda. Kita claims he shot you and you took less damage than you should have, yet he took none. Which one of you is lying?


Betrayal would be OP if it worked on more than 1 target now wouldn't it. Can't explain the lack of damage though I agree with him I think someone was retarded or misdirected.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 21:42 GMT
#2596
are you happening to suggest a last hour vote switch there Kita...
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CaveJohnson
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November 24 2012 22:03 GMT
#2609
On November 25 2012 07:01 iamperfection wrote:
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On November 25 2012 07:00 Keirathi wrote:
On November 25 2012 05:49 goodkarma wrote:
On November 25 2012 05:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
@ goodkarma

If you think they're both equal but you voted for Sandro first and that's why you stay, consider that Toad has actually stayed active but produced just as much content as Toad.



This is a good point, but it's not like Sandro has been perma-afk or anything. He has been incredibly inactive, but when he has been here he has had nothing to contribute except in defense of himself. This has been brought up before, but it is the same kind of scumtell as you're using for the case against Toad.

I won't be upset if Toad is lynched. However, that syllo is on Sandro, and I know that syllo is town, is enough to tip the scales in favor of lynching sandro for me.

How the hell do you KNOW that syllo is town? He's not confirmed town by any means.

hes probably making an assumption based on the mission success.

Don't give him ideas for an excuse...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 22:03 GMT
#2610
On November 25 2012 07:02 Djodref wrote:
This is going to be a mislynch... I feel it
Anyways, I didn't expect to have so many sheeps in this town.
Would appreciate that someone take care of CJ the troll tonight ^^


I don't troll >.> (Except to VE which was 1 post)
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 22:07 GMT
#2615
On November 25 2012 07:05 iamperfection wrote:
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On November 25 2012 07:03 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:01 iamperfection wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:00 Keirathi wrote:
On November 25 2012 05:49 goodkarma wrote:
On November 25 2012 05:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
@ goodkarma

If you think they're both equal but you voted for Sandro first and that's why you stay, consider that Toad has actually stayed active but produced just as much content as Toad.



This is a good point, but it's not like Sandro has been perma-afk or anything. He has been incredibly inactive, but when he has been here he has had nothing to contribute except in defense of himself. This has been brought up before, but it is the same kind of scumtell as you're using for the case against Toad.

I won't be upset if Toad is lynched. However, that syllo is on Sandro, and I know that syllo is town, is enough to tip the scales in favor of lynching sandro for me.

How the hell do you KNOW that syllo is town? He's not confirmed town by any means.

hes probably making an assumption based on the mission success.

Don't give him ideas for an excuse...

you know when people tell me to do something i usually don't listen.

That wasn't a command it was pointing out a silly post.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 22:08 GMT
#2617
On November 25 2012 07:08 iamperfection wrote:
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On November 25 2012 07:07 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:05 iamperfection wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:03 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:01 iamperfection wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:00 Keirathi wrote:
On November 25 2012 05:49 goodkarma wrote:
On November 25 2012 05:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
@ goodkarma

If you think they're both equal but you voted for Sandro first and that's why you stay, consider that Toad has actually stayed active but produced just as much content as Toad.



This is a good point, but it's not like Sandro has been perma-afk or anything. He has been incredibly inactive, but when he has been here he has had nothing to contribute except in defense of himself. This has been brought up before, but it is the same kind of scumtell as you're using for the case against Toad.

I won't be upset if Toad is lynched. However, that syllo is on Sandro, and I know that syllo is town, is enough to tip the scales in favor of lynching sandro for me.

How the hell do you KNOW that syllo is town? He's not confirmed town by any means.

hes probably making an assumption based on the mission success.

Don't give him ideas for an excuse...

you know when people tell me to do something i usually don't listen.

That wasn't a command it was pointing out a silly post.

almost as silly as pointing it out

Pointing it out does nothing once its already out there
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 22:14 GMT
#2620
On November 25 2012 07:10 Djodref wrote:
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On November 25 2012 07:08 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:08 iamperfection wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:07 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:05 iamperfection wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:03 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:01 iamperfection wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:00 Keirathi wrote:
On November 25 2012 05:49 goodkarma wrote:
On November 25 2012 05:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
@ goodkarma

If you think they're both equal but you voted for Sandro first and that's why you stay, consider that Toad has actually stayed active but produced just as much content as Toad.



This is a good point, but it's not like Sandro has been perma-afk or anything. He has been incredibly inactive, but when he has been here he has had nothing to contribute except in defense of himself. This has been brought up before, but it is the same kind of scumtell as you're using for the case against Toad.

I won't be upset if Toad is lynched. However, that syllo is on Sandro, and I know that syllo is town, is enough to tip the scales in favor of lynching sandro for me.

How the hell do you KNOW that syllo is town? He's not confirmed town by any means.

hes probably making an assumption based on the mission success.

Don't give him ideas for an excuse...

you know when people tell me to do something i usually don't listen.

That wasn't a command it was pointing out a silly post.

almost as silly as pointing it out

Pointing it out does nothing once its already out there


Would you like to share something with wrt your abilities ?
Something that we could confirm tomorrow ?


Not without giving away which one I'm using and who I'm targeting with which I don't want to do right now.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 22:18 GMT
#2623
On November 25 2012 07:17 Djodref wrote:
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On November 25 2012 07:14 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:10 Djodref wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:08 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:08 iamperfection wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:07 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:05 iamperfection wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:03 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:01 iamperfection wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:00 Keirathi wrote:
[quote]
How the hell do you KNOW that syllo is town? He's not confirmed town by any means.

hes probably making an assumption based on the mission success.

Don't give him ideas for an excuse...

you know when people tell me to do something i usually don't listen.

That wasn't a command it was pointing out a silly post.

almost as silly as pointing it out

Pointing it out does nothing once its already out there


Would you like to share something with wrt your abilities ?
Something that we could confirm tomorrow ?


Not without giving away which one I'm using and who I'm targeting with which I don't want to do right now.


So I guess you'll have no problem with calling you full of shit tomorrow ^^


I'll probably be dead to be honest
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 22:36 GMT
#2647
On November 25 2012 07:35 Acrofales wrote:
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On November 25 2012 07:18 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:17 Djodref wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:14 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:10 Djodref wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:08 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:08 iamperfection wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:07 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:05 iamperfection wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:03 CaveJohnson wrote:
[quote]
Don't give him ideas for an excuse...

you know when people tell me to do something i usually don't listen.

That wasn't a command it was pointing out a silly post.

almost as silly as pointing it out

Pointing it out does nothing once its already out there


Would you like to share something with wrt your abilities ?
Something that we could confirm tomorrow ?


Not without giving away which one I'm using and who I'm targeting with which I don't want to do right now.


So I guess you'll have no problem with calling you full of shit tomorrow ^^


I'll probably be dead to be honest

Drazerk just claimed scum.

Please do tell me how I did that
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 22:41 GMT
#2652
On November 25 2012 07:40 Acrofales wrote:
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On November 25 2012 07:36 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:35 Acrofales wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:18 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:17 Djodref wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:14 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:10 Djodref wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:08 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:08 iamperfection wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:07 CaveJohnson wrote:
[quote]
That wasn't a command it was pointing out a silly post.

almost as silly as pointing it out

Pointing it out does nothing once its already out there


Would you like to share something with wrt your abilities ?
Something that we could confirm tomorrow ?


Not without giving away which one I'm using and who I'm targeting with which I don't want to do right now.


So I guess you'll have no problem with calling you full of shit tomorrow ^^


I'll probably be dead to be honest

Drazerk just claimed scum.

Please do tell me how I did that

When you are scum you whine about how you will be shot by scum for having whatever outrageous role you claim (HRM springs to mind immediately). Town I have not seen you do this ever.

What have I told you about applying meta to me BAD ACRO BAD
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 22:42 GMT
#2653
Also I'm saying I'll be killed by town not scum etc this time.
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CaveJohnson
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November 24 2012 22:44 GMT
#2657
On November 25 2012 07:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On November 25 2012 07:42 CaveJohnson wrote:
Also I'm saying I'll be killed by town not scum etc this time.


Yet you never tried to talk anyone out of it. Ugh.


I was dead as soon as I had to role claim to save acro / snb
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 22:46 GMT
#2661
On November 25 2012 07:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On November 25 2012 07:44 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:42 CaveJohnson wrote:
Also I'm saying I'll be killed by town not scum etc this time.


Yet you never tried to talk anyone out of it. Ugh.


I was dead as soon as I had to role claim to save acro / snb


You think you saved acro and snb by roleclaiming? Saved them from what?


They was drawing heat since they knew my identity due to my posting style. Better the life of 2 than 1
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 22:49 GMT
#2666
On November 25 2012 07:48 Acrofales wrote:
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On November 25 2012 07:46 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:44 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:42 CaveJohnson wrote:
Also I'm saying I'll be killed by town not scum etc this time.


Yet you never tried to talk anyone out of it. Ugh.


I was dead as soon as I had to role claim to save acro / snb


You think you saved acro and snb by roleclaiming? Saved them from what?


They was drawing heat since they knew my identity due to my posting style. Better the life of 2 than 1

We were? Why was I not informed?

You leaking info from your QT?


If I was scum I wouldn't of made any mistakes. Silly acro
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 22:50 GMT
#2668
On November 25 2012 07:48 marvellosity wrote:
I'm coming round to Cave being scum, I think. This heroic martyring act is ridiculous.

Not for today, though.


I did that heroic martyr act a cycle ago
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 22:53 GMT
#2671
On November 25 2012 07:52 marvellosity wrote:
that was you just being an idiot. you bringing it up like you are now like you were oh so brave is what does it for me. probably.


lol I'm not trying to be heroic or brave also this is a town meta for me if you want to use behavioral analysis so much.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 24 2012 22:57 GMT
#2677
On November 25 2012 07:54 Keirathi wrote:
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On November 25 2012 07:53 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 07:52 marvellosity wrote:
that was you just being an idiot. you bringing it up like you are now like you were oh so brave is what does it for me. probably.


lol I'm not trying to be heroic or brave also this is a town meta for me if you want to use behavioral analysis so much.

You did none of that in Aperture 2.

Gotta go back to the beginning
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 25 2012 00:34 GMT
#2691
I took no damage 0.o?

weird... also a Syllo leader seems sensible despite my cycle 1 hesitance
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 25 2012 00:36 GMT
#2692
Oh nmd thanks prom lol
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 25 2012 00:38 GMT
#2696
On November 25 2012 09:37 Promethelax wrote:
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On November 25 2012 09:36 CaveJohnson wrote:
Oh nmd thanks prom lol


for saying you'd be a coinflip? It is true, but if I had bullets you'd be eating lead.


For your mass roleblock ability unless I misunderstood it
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 25 2012 00:40 GMT
#2699
Also this event's character is Robo IIRC - Just something to keep in mind
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 25 2012 00:41 GMT
#2701
On November 25 2012 09:40 kitaman27 wrote:
^_^

I took 50 damage last night. I picked sandroba from my guessing game and avoided the damage. I'm also part of a fun new game, which I won't reveal yet -_-

Considering Sandroba never returned, I think we should be looking for players that show signs of frustration towards his absence.

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On November 25 2012 09:36 marvellosity wrote:
On November 25 2012 09:34 Promethelax wrote:
hey Marv, baby, why did you target Syllo n1?

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sorry about my play sensei, I will do better


I'm basically a medic type role. I reduce incoming HP by half on the target player (or in 600 AD, 2 players).


So Cave trolls it up to attract kp, syllo is bussed with cave, and syllo takes my hit, while cave gets protected.


That doesn't explain the 25 damage
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CaveJohnson
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November 25 2012 00:46 GMT
#2707
On November 25 2012 09:42 Promethelax wrote:
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On November 25 2012 09:37 marvellosity wrote:
incidentally this is why I was fairly believing of kita earlier, because he claimed his shot on Drazerk only did half damage.

Obviously these actions were nothing to do with me, but the 50% resonated with my role.


interesting. So I am the only RBing role in the game. Or the only one activated n1. I assume some people have multiple abilities and not all would necessarily use the rb, where is the glory in that?

Marv, if you are a 600 character why didn't you try harder to get in the team d1? Didn't you feel that since your ability got a bonus your hidden modifier would too?

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On November 25 2012 09:40 kitaman27 wrote:
^_^

I took 50 damage last night. I picked sandroba from my guessing game and avoided the damage. I'm also part of a fun new game, which I won't reveal yet -_-

Considering Sandroba never returned, I think we should be looking for players that show signs of frustration towards his absence.

On November 25 2012 09:36 marvellosity wrote:
On November 25 2012 09:34 Promethelax wrote:
hey Marv, baby, why did you target Syllo n1?

+ Show Spoiler +
sorry about my play sensei, I will do better


I'm basically a medic type role. I reduce incoming HP by half on the target player (or in 600 AD, 2 players).


So Cave trolls it up to attract kp, syllo is bussed with cave, and syllo takes my hit, while cave gets protected.


the roleblocks buddy, the roleblocks. Neither of those things went through.

Draz: why are you thanking me for my ability? What did it do benefit you?


If anyone was only targeting me surely they would of been roleblocked? or am I misunderstanding the role
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CaveJohnson
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November 25 2012 00:47 GMT
#2708
On November 25 2012 09:45 marvellosity wrote:
maybe Prome. But I didn't want to be party leader at the time and I can't exactly force my way on to the team in any other way.

Also Prome - yes the roleblocks. But that's actually a valid scum strat. If scum can bus, then a scum Draz attracting KP could be very dangerous for town.


Hell a town draz could be very dangerous for town
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CaveJohnson
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November 25 2012 00:49 GMT
#2710
On November 25 2012 09:48 Promethelax wrote:
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On November 25 2012 09:46 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 09:42 Promethelax wrote:
On November 25 2012 09:37 marvellosity wrote:
incidentally this is why I was fairly believing of kita earlier, because he claimed his shot on Drazerk only did half damage.

Obviously these actions were nothing to do with me, but the 50% resonated with my role.


interesting. So I am the only RBing role in the game. Or the only one activated n1. I assume some people have multiple abilities and not all would necessarily use the rb, where is the glory in that?

Marv, if you are a 600 character why didn't you try harder to get in the team d1? Didn't you feel that since your ability got a bonus your hidden modifier would too?

On November 25 2012 09:40 kitaman27 wrote:
^_^

I took 50 damage last night. I picked sandroba from my guessing game and avoided the damage. I'm also part of a fun new game, which I won't reveal yet -_-

Considering Sandroba never returned, I think we should be looking for players that show signs of frustration towards his absence.

On November 25 2012 09:36 marvellosity wrote:
On November 25 2012 09:34 Promethelax wrote:
hey Marv, baby, why did you target Syllo n1?

+ Show Spoiler +
sorry about my play sensei, I will do better


I'm basically a medic type role. I reduce incoming HP by half on the target player (or in 600 AD, 2 players).


So Cave trolls it up to attract kp, syllo is bussed with cave, and syllo takes my hit, while cave gets protected.


the roleblocks buddy, the roleblocks. Neither of those things went through.

Draz: why are you thanking me for my ability? What did it do benefit you?


If anyone was only targeting me surely they would of been roleblocked? or am I misunderstanding the role


if anyone targets the player I used it on they are roleblocked. I didn't use it on you though. why do you think that I did?


Oh I thought it was game wide
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 25 2012 00:52 GMT
#2714
On November 25 2012 09:50 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 25 2012 09:49 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 09:48 Promethelax wrote:
On November 25 2012 09:46 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 09:42 Promethelax wrote:
On November 25 2012 09:37 marvellosity wrote:
incidentally this is why I was fairly believing of kita earlier, because he claimed his shot on Drazerk only did half damage.

Obviously these actions were nothing to do with me, but the 50% resonated with my role.


interesting. So I am the only RBing role in the game. Or the only one activated n1. I assume some people have multiple abilities and not all would necessarily use the rb, where is the glory in that?

Marv, if you are a 600 character why didn't you try harder to get in the team d1? Didn't you feel that since your ability got a bonus your hidden modifier would too?

On November 25 2012 09:40 kitaman27 wrote:
^_^

I took 50 damage last night. I picked sandroba from my guessing game and avoided the damage. I'm also part of a fun new game, which I won't reveal yet -_-

Considering Sandroba never returned, I think we should be looking for players that show signs of frustration towards his absence.

On November 25 2012 09:36 marvellosity wrote:
On November 25 2012 09:34 Promethelax wrote:
hey Marv, baby, why did you target Syllo n1?

+ Show Spoiler +
sorry about my play sensei, I will do better


I'm basically a medic type role. I reduce incoming HP by half on the target player (or in 600 AD, 2 players).


So Cave trolls it up to attract kp, syllo is bussed with cave, and syllo takes my hit, while cave gets protected.


the roleblocks buddy, the roleblocks. Neither of those things went through.

Draz: why are you thanking me for my ability? What did it do benefit you?


If anyone was only targeting me surely they would of been roleblocked? or am I misunderstanding the role


if anyone targets the player I used it on they are roleblocked. I didn't use it on you though. why do you think that I did?


Oh I thought it was game wide


does that mean you got roleblocked at some stage?


Nope
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 25 2012 01:09 GMT
#2726
On November 25 2012 10:05 GreYMisT wrote:
10

9
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 25 2012 01:14 GMT
#2733
I guess we play safe and we pick from the people Syllo picked then ignoring any other contenders
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CaveJohnson
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November 25 2012 02:38 GMT
#2812
On November 25 2012 11:35 Acrofales wrote:
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On November 25 2012 11:29 Keirathi wrote:
On November 25 2012 11:27 Acrofales wrote:
Lets just leave it at what I've said. I don't think there's any reason other that curiosity why anybody needs more information than I have given.

Because your claim doesn't make sense.

Remember this?

On November 22 2012 05:42 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 05:38 Keirathi wrote:
On November 22 2012 05:36 phagga wrote:
On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal.


why is that townie? I would expect a townie to want to be part of every mission if possible, as it will make sure that at least that spot is not occupied by scum (from that specific townies point of view).

If a townie has a low "success modifier". I could see him not wanting to be picked especially in the early game where its much more likely that a scum (or two) are picked for the team inadvertently and it could cause mission loss.

How the hell do you have any idea what your HIDDEN success modifier is? What CaveJohnson's post made me think of was 3rd party. I thought syllo was referring to the fact that a 3rd party didn't want to come along on the mission was "townie", because he at least cares enough about the town to warn them off.

Now you're trying to portray that you being in a party could cause us to lose the event somehow.

I didn't say you didn't WANT any more information, just that you don't NEED any more information. My goal right now is to get this mission over successfully. It is safer if you don't take me.


Funny how people jumped down my throat for that line of thinking as well
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 25 2012 02:58 GMT
#2825
Taking damage means nothing about alignment I have an ability that deals damage to players 1-5 etc as well as another which does collateral damage to anyone who had visited the main target of the spell.

Its generally in either sides best interest to claim damage to be honest.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 03:06 GMT
#2832
On November 25 2012 12:04 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!

##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern

I was planning on healing either our frog or syllo so far. And for those asking, I guess it's kind of a kamikaze medic.

But thx for preventing the 500dmg :3


Your role reminded me of my fool role from holy roman just reversed. I honestly expect you to explode if you type out a rhyme
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 10:08 GMT
#2965
On November 25 2012 19:06 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 18:57 Dienosore wrote:
When did you get it, and how were you notified that you got it?

I was told in PM. I don't really want to be more specific than that since it's kind of a gray area rules-wise. It says I got an item and what it does. It's not really important.

Is it a seed?
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 10:24 GMT
#2969
How many people are even from this era the only ones that come to mind are Doan and Robo
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 13:41 GMT
#3050
On November 25 2012 20:42 Hassybaby wrote:
9

8
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 13:43 GMT
#3053
On November 25 2012 22:43 Acrofales wrote:
Yo Drazerk, you inflating your postcount for any specific reason?


If I was inflating my post count I'd be on my main account now wouldn't I
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 13:46 GMT
#3056
On November 25 2012 22:45 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 22:43 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 25 2012 22:43 Acrofales wrote:
Yo Drazerk, you inflating your postcount for any specific reason?


If I was inflating my post count I'd be on my main account now wouldn't I

Do you know anything about the countdown the rest of us don't?

Not really but we want Lavos to spawn ASAP in order to win so trying to figure out what makes that timer decrease is in everyones best interest
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 13:49 GMT
#3059
On November 25 2012 22:48 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, call it a hunch, but it has nothing to do with you posting numbers in the thread.

At least i'm trying to figure out method to decrease it rather than ignoring it
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 15:15 GMT
#3083
25
19
7
5

Not number related I guess. It could be collateral damage if you all targeted the same person. I know mine lasts for 2 cycles so I wouldn't be too worried if that was the case.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 15:21 GMT
#3086
On November 26 2012 00:20 Djodref wrote:
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On November 26 2012 00:15 CaveJohnson wrote:
25
19
7
5

Not number related I guess. It could be collateral damage if you all targeted the same person. I know mine lasts for 2 cycles so I wouldn't be too worried if that was the case.


I didn't not target anyone during the first cycle :s


Maybe its something targeting your time period?
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 15:24 GMT
#3090
On November 26 2012 00:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 00:21 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:20 Djodref wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:15 CaveJohnson wrote:
25
19
7
5

Not number related I guess. It could be collateral damage if you all targeted the same person. I know mine lasts for 2 cycles so I wouldn't be too worried if that was the case.


I didn't not target anyone during the first cycle :s


Maybe its something targeting your time period?


I do not have a specific timeperiod.


Wiki your character. Mine wasn't specified either but I know I'm from 1000AD.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 15:28 GMT
#3095
On November 26 2012 00:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 00:24 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:21 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:20 Djodref wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:15 CaveJohnson wrote:
25
19
7
5

Not number related I guess. It could be collateral damage if you all targeted the same person. I know mine lasts for 2 cycles so I wouldn't be too worried if that was the case.


I didn't not target anyone during the first cycle :s


Maybe its something targeting your time period?


I do not have a specific timeperiod.


Wiki your character. Mine wasn't specified either but I know I'm from 1000AD.


I guarantee you it is not.


Oh am I missing something about where my character came from 0.o?
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 15:31 GMT
#3100
On November 26 2012 00:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 00:28 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:24 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:21 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:20 Djodref wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:15 CaveJohnson wrote:
25
19
7
5

Not number related I guess. It could be collateral damage if you all targeted the same person. I know mine lasts for 2 cycles so I wouldn't be too worried if that was the case.


I didn't not target anyone during the first cycle :s


Maybe its something targeting your time period?


I do not have a specific timeperiod.


Wiki your character. Mine wasn't specified either but I know I'm from 1000AD.


I guarantee you it is not.


Oh am I missing something about where my character came from 0.o?


No, sorry. I guarantee my character is not from a specific era.


Well I'm out of ideas then
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 15:48 GMT
#3107
4 is such a weird number of targets...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 17:10 GMT
#3134
On November 26 2012 02:01 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 01:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 26 2012 01:38 Djodref wrote:
On November 26 2012 01:24 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:36 Djodref wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:26 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:22 Djodref wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:19 risk.nuke wrote:
Why am I like a ghost in these games. Even when I run for leader I am mostly ignored.


I think it's because you are not active enough
I won't vote for you by the way, there are some people that I trust more. I understand how you feel if it can do any good to you.

It doesn't do me any good, you're free to vote for whoever you want but even if you don't want to vote for me you can still comment on me for everyone's benefit.


Well, I would not vote for the following reasons
  • The waiting game you have played yesterday with your vote on Sandro, nice way for not contributing during a lynch day
  • The way you answered kitaman suspicions towards you ("scummy post from a scummy player")
  • The fact that you are not active enough, I expect a party leader to have some leadership
  • The fact that you take syllo and TheChronicler in your team. Dieno and Oats is better than syllo and Oats. TheChronicler is meh....



I have been active and don't get into sementics, would you had approved if I had said. I'm not going to take my vote of the scummiest player just because he's avoiding the thread.

Kitaman had done squat all game which is more then enough to justify the title of scummy behaviour when he showed up with a pisspoor case against me.

As I said I don't think Dia is a good addition to the team. Do you believe there are no repercussions to prevent town from beating the game using claims? And in addition to that he's lost the majority of his hp. Hypothetically what if a condition is if a teammember has less then x hp the mission will fail, or maybe it will fail and kill him.

Syllo is by far better then both oats and dia, I've considered keith being better then oats aswell. And chronicler is very likely town. He's the one who copchecked toad so unless you think scum is trading 1for1 you shouldn't doubt him.


@risk.nuke

You have not been as active as marv for example. I would have liked if you have participated more in the scum hunt during D2. Toad was not so difficult to find for example... (Correct me if I'm wrong but I assumed that you were familiar Toad here)

Ok, fair enough.

Ok, that's speculating. I have more faith in a town Dieno than in a town syllo, and that's all what matters for me. Anyway, if we present 4 town members, the event is going to succeed for sure I guess. Easy enough imho...

What do you mean by "better" ? I'm only caring about the fact that they are more confirmed town.

TheChronicler could have bussed Toad with a fake cope claim. The only thing that indicates a town TheChronicler is this copeclaim...

you think acro faked his copclaim as well?

Acro claimed 1-shot cop on a person who had just been busted by another cop claim. I think it's very convenient.


09:30 - Flip
09:51 - Acro's first post after flip
10:32 - TC's roleclaim and his first post after flip
13:20 - Acro's roleclaim

Why would anyone believe Acro? the only interesting thing is he gave us an actual role name but if I was scum in that situation I would know to throw toad under the bus.

Doing it after TC's role claim was pointless. If you get a red flip you claim ASAP 1-1 trades are always good for town. No exceptions. Acro's claim SHOULD have been before TC's if it was real.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 25 2012 17:22 GMT
#3144
So we're ignoring my Acro thing...ok...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 26 2012 04:38 GMT
#3476
On November 26 2012 13:35 Acrofales wrote:
Actually, that's not fair. I wrote a long response explaining myself, but then I got angry with you, deleted it and kept reading the thread, bumped upon your followup and decided you were an idiot.


ok so you won't mind if I ignore all your posts from now on and kill you tonight. Good to know.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 26 2012 04:48 GMT
#3478
On November 26 2012 13:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cave, dont be petty. If you think that acro is scum, make a case.

I don't need to anymore. There was no town reason to do what he did and he just ignores it. Simple and clean kill in my opinion.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 26 2012 04:56 GMT
#3482
On November 26 2012 13:52 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 13:48 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 26 2012 13:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cave, dont be petty. If you think that acro is scum, make a case.

I don't need to anymore. There was no town reason to do what he did and he just ignores it. Simple and clean kill in my opinion.

Fine. I thought I'd claim immediately. Then realized there wasn't a lynch. Why bother throwing that info out unless there IS a lynch (and it therefore helps town), or Toad is fucking with people's minds (and claming therefore helps town). I know you are the king of roleclaims, but I prefer to not throw all my info in the table and then whine every cycle that people will shoot me.


Still no reason to throw your role claim out after TC's. 2-1 trade isn't nearly as nice as the 1-1 trade would have been. Sure it must of been annoying to not have any use on your 1 shot ability but thats Mafia. You could of lit up a scum target for every vigilante and role blocker but instead only did so after it was meaningless.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 26 2012 05:10 GMT
#3491
On November 26 2012 14:05 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 13:56 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 26 2012 13:52 Acrofales wrote:
On November 26 2012 13:48 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 26 2012 13:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cave, dont be petty. If you think that acro is scum, make a case.

I don't need to anymore. There was no town reason to do what he did and he just ignores it. Simple and clean kill in my opinion.

Fine. I thought I'd claim immediately. Then realized there wasn't a lynch. Why bother throwing that info out unless there IS a lynch (and it therefore helps town), or Toad is fucking with people's minds (and claming therefore helps town). I know you are the king of roleclaims, but I prefer to not throw all my info in the table and then whine every cycle that people will shoot me.


Still no reason to throw your role claim out after TC's. 2-1 trade isn't nearly as nice as the 1-1 trade would have been. Sure it must of been annoying to not have any use on your 1 shot ability but thats Mafia. You could of lit up a scum target for every vigilante and role blocker but instead only did so after it was meaningless.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Also, you're not thinking straight.

My info helps nail Toad, you agree?

If it helps nail Toad and he flips scum, which I 100% think it does, then you can make the claim that my roleclaim is not alignment indicative as I might have been bussing. Go ahead and do that, but how the flying fuck does this suddenly make it a 2 for 1 trade for town?

If Toad flips and he's town, then it's a 2 for 1 trade in favour of town. So.. yeah, that would make me the greatest derp in the history of herpaderps.

In closing: you're an idiot.


Toad was already nailed by TC's claim. If you are town then you and TC will be shot by scum for your silliness.

If toad flips town he will have been framed and more than likely TC would be lynched before you allowing you to hide behind the shield of "OH NO HE WAS FRAMED!" as a "confirmed" town. True enough TC could possibly do the same but I find that less likely with regards to how he actually claimed.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 26 2012 05:12 GMT
#3493
I agree with co-ordination on targets. Never actually out what you are doing to said targets but having only 2 targets per night will probably guarantee success.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 26 2012 05:19 GMT
#3499
On November 26 2012 14:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think that consolidating night actions as town isnt good because it allows scum to use protective stuff on those people, which I think that they must have.


There are some roles that get around stuff like that. Also Acro I just hate the roleclaim and I don't want you to hide behind a confirmed town status as a result of it.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 26 2012 15:41 GMT
#3694
On November 27 2012 00:01 Acrofales wrote:
Imho Iamperfection is still by far the scummiest lurkers out of the lurking lot. Maybe Drazerk, but I'm biased because since HRM it is my mission in any mafia game to kill Drazerk.


I can tell... Notice how even SnB hasn't acted against me?

I thought I'd bring it up to you since you know our relationship a little too well
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 27 2012 07:43 GMT
#4050
On November 27 2012 16:25 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 15:28 syllogism wrote:
Wait, Prom now says his ability only roleblocks the first person who targets the player he targets and it doesn't block mafia KP?


just popping in but no. It roleblocks everyone who targets my target and it does not block mafia kp. The confusion you are having is when I used 'first' to differentiate the target from the targeter. My ability is used on one dude. All the other dudes who target that dude get RB'd. Factional kp can still target that dude. Sorry for the confusion.


So scum have factional KP... good to know.

Also I took 201 damage and were roleblocked because you guys are meanies..It wasn't as if I was going to EMP blast Toad or anything...

Good to know I'm rated higher than the 99% scum though.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 27 2012 07:49 GMT
#4053
On November 27 2012 16:48 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 16:40 syllogism wrote:
Prom why did you only take 25 damage when I hit you for 75?


nothing to do with my role. Someone must have protected me. .


25 is becoming a theme. Bus toll?
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 27 2012 07:51 GMT
#4054
On November 27 2012 16:45 syllogism wrote:
Djodref why are you answering for him?

Actually you know what, I'm done for a few days. There are no active town aligned players left in the game who make even a modicum amount of sense. It's not like we can lynch these people anytime soon and the game is going to take forever given that we are still only in 2300 AD.

Why did you have to be mafia sandro


12000BC next where Lavos is
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 08:00 GMT
#4429
On November 28 2012 15:08 syllogism wrote:
Cavejohnson still waiting for you to tell me why you asked if I received a seed

Play the god damn game or at least google T_T
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 08:55 GMT
#4431
What did you even think I could possibly want it for lol
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 09:16 GMT
#4433
The seed would of guaranteed a victory for any mission in this time period. Its probably the most important item in the game especially in this time hence I asked if it was the item.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 11:59 GMT
#4437
On November 28 2012 18:28 syllogism wrote:
Thanks, that is actually helpful. Do you have any idea what Acro's role is, based on your role?


It sounds like a clone of mine just with supportive abilities rather than offensive abilities I know mine is balanced VIA my HP so I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't take much to kill Acro if you want to remove him from the game.

Also no idea where the 1 came from probably a fizzled attack or something.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 12:44 GMT
#4442
On November 28 2012 21:34 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 20:59 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 28 2012 18:28 syllogism wrote:
Thanks, that is actually helpful. Do you have any idea what Acro's role is, based on your role?


It sounds like a clone of mine


you claiming third party?


Sadly I'm town.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 12:48 GMT
#4444
Its far too soon to be Lavos... Although it could be the ocean palace Lavos fight which is essentially unwinnable.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 18:43 GMT
#4506
Lynching toad is a wasted cycle

Wasted cycle = horrific for town

Even in a game as crazy as this that is still the case
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 18:47 GMT
#4511
On November 29 2012 03:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 03:43 CaveJohnson wrote:
Lynching toad is a wasted cycle

Wasted cycle = horrific for town

Even in a game as crazy as this that is still the case


Killing a 99.9% scum guaranteed is bad for town?


Through a lynch? Yes
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 18:51 GMT
#4513
On November 29 2012 03:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 03:47 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 29 2012 03:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 29 2012 03:43 CaveJohnson wrote:
Lynching toad is a wasted cycle

Wasted cycle = horrific for town

Even in a game as crazy as this that is still the case


Killing a 99.9% scum guaranteed is bad for town?


Through a lynch? Yes


You'd rather try to co-ordinate town KP to kill him? What if scum can defend him? He's the obvious target if we all agree on killing him that way. What if he has damage mitigation, what if after 2 cycles he's still not dead, do we then lynch him or jsut keep trying? It's too risky when there's no need to be risky. Just lynch him for a 100% guaranteed scum death which will more than likely lower scum kp.


We don't give up trying which is what you guys seem to be implying. We must try to take him down tonight before a lynch cycle happens if we get a lynch cycle its just 48 hours of parking your vote and afking he still dies and we still lynch him but its a huge waste of time which only helps scum.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 18:59 GMT
#4515
On November 29 2012 03:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
We can scumhunt without flip info just fine. Plus if town kp is smart we might get a flip anyway. But if we direct it, the same way you would try to direct blue roles in standard mafia, it will help scum more than town.


Scum won't risk protecting him with the huge likeliness of trackers / watchers in this game. Its not the safe move and they know it.

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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 19:07 GMT
#4518
On November 29 2012 04:03 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 03:59 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 29 2012 03:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
We can scumhunt without flip info just fine. Plus if town kp is smart we might get a flip anyway. But if we direct it, the same way you would try to direct blue roles in standard mafia, it will help scum more than town.


Scum won't risk protecting him with the huge likeliness of trackers / watchers in this game. Its not the safe move and they know it.



Hmmm, perhaps a fair point but the only "tracking" we've seen so far was prome's seed thing, right? But that blocks everyone targeting him including town kp though.


They are the role most likely to keep in the shadows until the end game but I'd be surprised if none were in the game other than Prom's thing.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 20:51 GMT
#4530
On November 29 2012 05:44 Keirathi wrote:
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On November 29 2012 05:12 Hapahauli wrote:
big]
We have to try to kill Toad tonight!


Any other ideas are fucking retarded.

We don't know when the next lynch cycle is, and we can't risk leaving him alive forever. Furthermore, there's a good chance we can kill him - we don't know if he's at full heath or not, and there's a decent chance that we have enough collective damage to dispatch of Toad at full health.

Even if we get a lynch tomorrow (which we have no way of knowing), having toad potentially alive would be really bad. We would not get any discussion done.


Good god no. Don't be fucking stupid Hapa.

We already know that scum had a bus driver. H1 claimed an ability that makes him completely untargetable. We have no idea what kind of protective roles scum could have. By making that claim, you've basically guaranteed that they'll use everything at their disposal to keep him alive, and waste what...2? 3? 4-5? town abilities in the process.

It may have been a good idea if you didn't scream for everyone to do it, but now its just god awful retarded.
[/big]

We have already gone through this its not smart play to keep toad alive.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 20:59 GMT
#4536
On November 29 2012 05:57 Acrofales wrote:
Also, inb4 cult.

inb4 cult of the time traveler Cthulhu...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 21:21 GMT
#4543
On November 29 2012 06:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
Because syllo is close to confirmed town.


Thats really alarming when it comes to mason circles and a tell tale sign of a cult.

Masons role claim instantly and bugger off for the rest of the game. However they kept it silent and recruited people in and if it wasn't a confirmed townie start they shouldn't even be using it.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 21:27 GMT
#4547
You can recruit one person a day, to a maximum of four. Anybody who joins the cult maintain their original role and alignment but may communicate with other players in the cult. You may sacrifice a cultist to give yourself an extra life at any point, but this can only be used once.

The people in the cult do not know its a cult.

Just an example from PTP2.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 21:31 GMT
#4551
On November 29 2012 06:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 06:27 CaveJohnson wrote:
You can recruit one person a day, to a maximum of four. Anybody who joins the cult maintain their original role and alignment but may communicate with other players in the cult. You may sacrifice a cultist to give yourself an extra life at any point, but this can only be used once.

The people in the cult do not know its a cult.

Just an example from PTP2.


Ah I see. Never seen that mechanic before. Just thought your word choice was weird.


Its a personal favourite of mine. Getting to create and kill your own team and all...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 21:36 GMT
#4552
Syllo do you know who the leader is?
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 22:25 GMT
#4556
Well lets go out with a bang.

##Turducken:

Target A: Acrofales
Target B: CaveJohnson
Target C: Toadesstern


Target A's maximum Health - Target B's current health = Damage target C takes.

I have 24 health left. Its good to be me.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 22:28 GMT
#4559
On November 29 2012 07:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
Is that blockable?


Not in the slightest why do you think I left it so long
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 22:28 GMT
#4560
On November 29 2012 07:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
How much damage did you take last cycle cave?


201
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 22:30 GMT
#4562
On November 29 2012 07:29 phagga wrote:
Didn't acro already take damage? And does this only damage Toad?


Eurgh

Acro's MAXIMUM

My CURRENT

and yes only toad is effected I just needed someone else's HP total and a third party survivor seemed likely to have higher than average HP
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 22:35 GMT
#4566
On November 29 2012 07:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
Cave this is important, does your ability get used instantly or at the end of the cycle? Like, if I instantly healed you now would your ability do less damage?


End of cycle sadly and I'd presume so but that would just be stupid on all levels lol.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 22:38 GMT
#4571
On November 29 2012 07:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
Did you have to post to the thread or was that just for fun?


If I was doing it for fun It would of been done at the start of the cycle for maximum enjoyment.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 22:38 GMT
#4573
On November 29 2012 07:37 Acrofales wrote:
That's assuming Drazerk isn't pulling off another one of his classical pranks.


You know I've been setting this up all day with the passing remark to your HP
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 22:39 GMT
#4575
On November 29 2012 07:38 phagga wrote:
CaveJohnson, I have 600 max HP, if you use me as Target A, I will be able to use this skill next night as well. Your action goes through normally, I get the same skill to use next night. If you trust me to be town, make me Target A instead of Acro.


Its already locked in but cheers for telling scum your max HP its exactly why I didn't mention this role's existence until now.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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November 28 2012 22:41 GMT
#4580
On November 29 2012 07:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
Cave will you be around after the new cycle starts?

Depends if people hurt me
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 22:41 GMT
#4584
On November 29 2012 07:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On November 29 2012 07:41 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 29 2012 07:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
Cave will you be around after the new cycle starts?

Depends if people hurt me


Right, but I mean you'll be at your computer, yes?


Probably
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 22:42 GMT
#4585
On November 29 2012 07:41 Djodref wrote:
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On November 29 2012 07:39 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 29 2012 07:38 phagga wrote:
CaveJohnson, I have 600 max HP, if you use me as Target A, I will be able to use this skill next night as well. Your action goes through normally, I get the same skill to use next night. If you trust me to be town, make me Target A instead of Acro.


Its already locked in but cheers for telling scum your max HP its exactly why I didn't mention this role's existence until now.


Already locked in ?
What do you mean ?


Once its primed it cannot be changed
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 22:47 GMT
#4595
On November 29 2012 07:42 Acrofales wrote:
Draz, you should've put more points in Quas and less in Wex/Exort.


You have no idea how OP chaos meteor could have been in the hands of scum...1200 maximum damage onto the town?

Yes please.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 22:48 GMT
#4597
Yeah don't heal me - This is my last gift to you all
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 29 2012 00:21 GMT
#4626
My action went through - Toad should have died regardless of what happened. I also got a meat pie... yummy

No role blocks, no damage no heals.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 29 2012 00:21 GMT
#4627
On November 29 2012 09:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On November 29 2012 09:18 Promethelax wrote:
On November 29 2012 09:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah odds are GK is scum.

Acro do you know what kind of influence you have on mission success rates?


read the thread. Don't ask questions you don't need to ask.


I don't recall acro saying anything related to this but I guess..... fair enough

By the way, "hidden lynch" is code for "cba doing votecounts" isn't it?


Extra votes / Lynchers etc
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 29 2012 13:39 GMT
#4779
On November 29 2012 22:23 risk.nuke wrote:
Goodkarmas behavior (not actions) when I invited him I have an impossible time to make sense from as a scum perspective. I could understand third party but that is near impossible from how insanely weak a third party he would be, and scum or third party wouldn't shoot at CJ!


Third party would shoot me. I know that for a fact and I've stated it before.
Scum would shoot me since I'm unlynchable and a loose cannon they can't control in the end game.
Town would shoot me because they are mean and can't think of better targets (Looking at you Kita)
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 29 2012 13:48 GMT
#4781
You may want to reread a few things risk
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 30 2012 18:51 GMT
#5198
On December 01 2012 03:48 syllogism wrote:
I think sandroba roleblocked me n2 if actions and lynch are processed simultaneously. I do not believe risk was roleblocked or if he was, it was by a third party for no apparent reason. It is certainly extremely unlikely for mafia to roleblock risk over some of the claimed roles. It's possible that he was roleblocked by a town aligned roleblocker, but I've asked the person in question to claim and I think he would have. I didn't know about drazerk claiming roleblock n3 though.

It's possible that there are roles that have a passive/active ability that roleblocks anyone who visits them or something, I suppose.


Steven seagal comes to mind with that.

Also I didn't even take damage with Kitas (apparent) second attack so I think someone is messing with Kita rather than protecting me.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 30 2012 18:52 GMT
#5201
On December 01 2012 03:50 Promethelax wrote:
A thought Acro, you said you had 9 abilities right? And draz has 27, but only learns about two a night? I doubt it, three seems much more logical.

Imp: me no can heal.


Invoker can carry 2 abilities at a time...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 30 2012 18:57 GMT
#5205
I'm not even lying
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 30 2012 19:20 GMT
#5215
Turducken was EMP
Night 2 I used cold snap (Eclair) on Djodref for self preservation reasons. I dunno if he ever got role blocked as a result.
I think Kita was targeted and then screwed with not me.
Spicy Jerky screwed with the first person to visit me and only them.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#5217
On December 01 2012 04:14 Promethelax wrote:
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On December 01 2012 04:11 Acrofales wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:53 Promethelax wrote:
Acro, what is pgo?

Already explained in the thread. Paranoid Gun Owner.


ah right, I didn't make the connection because I thought it was a name and not a role. Thanks.

@Draz, why are you so sure that your character has to be based on the old invoker?


Because Quas Wex Exort gave me levitation rather than deafening blast
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 30 2012 19:31 GMT
#5222
On December 01 2012 04:25 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 04:23 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:14 Promethelax wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:11 Acrofales wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:53 Promethelax wrote:
Acro, what is pgo?

Already explained in the thread. Paranoid Gun Owner.


ah right, I didn't make the connection because I thought it was a name and not a role. Thanks.

@Draz, why are you so sure that your character has to be based on the old invoker?


Because Quas Wex Exort gave me levitation rather than deafening blast


why is you role based on the invoker at all? Why do you have the food stuff/spell names interchangeable in your head? Why do you always insist on saying you have a crazy role? Who is scum who is town?


Spicy Essence, Icing Essence, and Meat Essence

It doesn't take a genius to work out which is which.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 30 2012 19:39 GMT
#5224
On December 01 2012 04:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On December 01 2012 04:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:20 CaveJohnson wrote:
Turducken was EMP
Night 2 I used cold snap (Eclair) on Djodref for self preservation reasons. I dunno if he ever got role blocked as a result.
I think Kita was targeted and then screwed with not me.
Spicy Jerky screwed with the first person to visit me and only them.

Screwed with them in what way?


Reflects it... I thought I'd already stated this 4 cycles ago?
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 30 2012 19:47 GMT
#5227
Grey also has the Hero list for Dota mafia but he only has the dota 2 abilities in that because Hassy is a coward.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 30 2012 20:24 GMT
#5238
On December 01 2012 05:07 Acrofales wrote:
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On December 01 2012 04:20 CaveJohnson wrote:
Turducken was EMP
Night 2 I used cold snap (Eclair) on Djodref for self preservation reasons. I dunno if he ever got role blocked as a result.
I think Kita was targeted and then screwed with not me.
Spicy Jerky screwed with the first person to visit me and only them.

Are you claiming you roleblocked Djodref on N2? Also, why Djodref? What made you pick him out over Phagga or Kita?

Also, I find you talking about self-preservation rather funny.


Not unless he took damage on either cycle 2 or 3 (one not both)

I presumed he was the most likely to actually do damage to me. Kita had already failed at hitting me once and I'll be honest when I say I didn't take Phagga seriously.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 01 2012 00:03 GMT
#5325
C
A
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 01 2012 00:06 GMT
#5327
Why would scum ever summon lavos early...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 01 2012 00:10 GMT
#5331
On December 01 2012 09:08 Keirathi wrote:
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On December 01 2012 09:04 Clarity_nl wrote:
Further information redacted from Toad's role pm is interesting


It was probably the QT link and team members.

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On December 01 2012 09:06 CaveJohnson wrote:
Why would scum ever summon lavos early...


Because scum's goal is to kill ALL townies, and it doesn't appear to matter how many scum are alive at that point. Presumably, Lavos would assist with that.


Town don't need to kill scum though we only need to kill Lavos. The more of us that are alive the more of us that can hit Lavos.

You want to delay him as long as possible so there is less town to fight Lavos
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 01 2012 00:39 GMT
#5358
Apparently I was roleblocked
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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December 01 2012 12:13 GMT
#5441
On December 01 2012 20:27 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 12:47 Djodref wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:20 CaveJohnson wrote:
Turducken was EMP
Night 2 I used cold snap (Eclair) on Djodref for self preservation reasons. I dunno if he ever got role blocked as a result.
I think Kita was targeted and then screwed with not me.
Spicy Jerky screwed with the first person to visit me and only them.


I didn't get roleblocked so far. Your action didn't get through or you are lying about it.

Drazerk, it is time to come clean. In addition to Kita and Toad (not the most reliable sources), we now have H1 and Djodreff claiming night results different from what you do.

I am completely onboard with a policy of shooting you until you either die or tell us the truth.

For you to explain:
N1 - Kita claims a 50 damage shot and no damage to himself. You claim you took 25 damage and reflected damage back onto one person who hit you.

N2 - H1 claims a 126 damage shot. You claim no damage (or at least omitted a damage claim N2). You claim to RB Djodreff, who claims he wasn't roleblocked.

N3 - GK claims a 150 damage shot. You claim you took 201 damage. Given that H1 is the only one who claimed a vig shot with weird numbers, it seems as if you claimed N2 damage on N3.

N4 - Kita claims a 50 damage shot. You claim no damage.

I have even omitted the whole Turducken on Toad, because there's no need to speculate about what Toad was lying about.


Reflected action. It didn't need to be damage

Nothing happened to me N2 DJ should have been roleblocked either night 2 or 3.

Night 3 I took 201 damage.

Night 4 I took no damage .

I couldn't make this shit up even if I tried. I plan out my lies, this is a messy heap of awfulness that no one can explain until the night actions get posted in the end game.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 01 2012 12:30 GMT
#5444
I don't find scum unless I'm scum / third party its kinda my ultimate weakness.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 01 2012 12:31 GMT
#5446
Find one analysis by me as town. I've played well over 40 games and I bet you can't find one.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 01 2012 13:06 GMT
#5448
On December 01 2012 21:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
Are you claiming scum?
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On November 26 2012 02:10 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 26 2012 02:01 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 26 2012 01:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 26 2012 01:38 Djodref wrote:
On November 26 2012 01:24 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:36 Djodref wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:26 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:22 Djodref wrote:
On November 26 2012 00:19 risk.nuke wrote:
Why am I like a ghost in these games. Even when I run for leader I am mostly ignored.


I think it's because you are not active enough
I won't vote for you by the way, there are some people that I trust more. I understand how you feel if it can do any good to you.

It doesn't do me any good, you're free to vote for whoever you want but even if you don't want to vote for me you can still comment on me for everyone's benefit.


Well, I would not vote for the following reasons
  • The waiting game you have played yesterday with your vote on Sandro, nice way for not contributing during a lynch day
  • The way you answered kitaman suspicions towards you ("scummy post from a scummy player")
  • The fact that you are not active enough, I expect a party leader to have some leadership
  • The fact that you take syllo and TheChronicler in your team. Dieno and Oats is better than syllo and Oats. TheChronicler is meh....



I have been active and don't get into sementics, would you had approved if I had said. I'm not going to take my vote of the scummiest player just because he's avoiding the thread.

Kitaman had done squat all game which is more then enough to justify the title of scummy behaviour when he showed up with a pisspoor case against me.

As I said I don't think Dia is a good addition to the team. Do you believe there are no repercussions to prevent town from beating the game using claims? And in addition to that he's lost the majority of his hp. Hypothetically what if a condition is if a teammember has less then x hp the mission will fail, or maybe it will fail and kill him.

Syllo is by far better then both oats and dia, I've considered keith being better then oats aswell. And chronicler is very likely town. He's the one who copchecked toad so unless you think scum is trading 1for1 you shouldn't doubt him.


@risk.nuke

You have not been as active as marv for example. I would have liked if you have participated more in the scum hunt during D2. Toad was not so difficult to find for example... (Correct me if I'm wrong but I assumed that you were familiar Toad here)

Ok, fair enough.

Ok, that's speculating. I have more faith in a town Dieno than in a town syllo, and that's all what matters for me. Anyway, if we present 4 town members, the event is going to succeed for sure I guess. Easy enough imho...

What do you mean by "better" ? I'm only caring about the fact that they are more confirmed town.

TheChronicler could have bussed Toad with a fake cope claim. The only thing that indicates a town TheChronicler is this copeclaim...

you think acro faked his copclaim as well?

Acro claimed 1-shot cop on a person who had just been busted by another cop claim. I think it's very convenient.


09:30 - Flip
09:51 - Acro's first post after flip
10:32 - TC's roleclaim and his first post after flip
13:20 - Acro's roleclaim

Why would anyone believe Acro? the only interesting thing is he gave us an actual role name but if I was scum in that situation I would know to throw toad under the bus.

Doing it after TC's role claim was pointless. If you get a red flip you claim ASAP 1-1 trades are always good for town. No exceptions. Acro's claim SHOULD have been before TC's if it was real.


Or is that supposed to not be analysis?


Thats not analysis.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 01 2012 15:47 GMT
#5462
A is a trap
B is stupidity
C means we can't use those people for future events but guarantees a success

Thats how I see it.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 01 2012 22:35 GMT
#5524
Well considering I was notified when roleblocked I can only presume he should have been.

Also what happened to those maps...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 01 2012 22:43 GMT
#5528
On December 02 2012 07:39 Dienosore wrote:
I've been slackin on the maps lately. Do you guys find them useful? I can keep doing them if you want.


POST THE MAPS LIKE I FORCED NISANI TO POST NODE GRAPHS!
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 02 2012 00:03 GMT
#5538
a = 13 turns
b = 11 turns
c = 9 turns

C = best
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 02 2012 00:07 GMT
#5541
I never did get those maps
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 02 2012 00:44 GMT
#5563
Snes version is the best don't listen to Ondore's lies.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 02 2012 00:47 GMT
#5565
Snes9x is better Clarity a lot of people disapprove of znesw
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 02 2012 00:55 GMT
#5568
Only advantage the DS has is better translations the final final boss isn't that special
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 02 2012 12:52 GMT
#5632
I wouldn't be surprised if that was how long the game was going to last Adam. I knew it was going to be a long game the moment the HP mechanic was mentioned
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 02 2012 13:02 GMT
#5640
On December 02 2012 21:58 Promethelax wrote:
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On December 02 2012 21:52 CaveJohnson wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if that was how long the game was going to last Adam. I knew it was going to be a long game the moment the HP mechanic was mentioned


scheduled to end dec 3-15. no time for fifteen cycles.


That doesn't say 2012
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 02 2012 22:12 GMT
#5743
On December 03 2012 07:08 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 03 2012 07:06 TheChronicler wrote:
Holy shit I hadn't voted. That was close.


Posting this cycle would be kinda nice too.


Shhhh thats how you scare them away
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 02 2012 22:58 GMT
#5767
On December 03 2012 07:56 strongandbig wrote:
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On December 03 2012 07:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 03 2012 07:53 strongandbig wrote:
On December 03 2012 07:53 kitaman27 wrote:
strongandbig...are you willing to use your role tonight on phagga to confirm he is not golem?


yeah okay


What were you planning before?


headbutt drazerk again


gee thanks
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 03 2012 00:09 GMT
#5776
No heal
No damage
No roleblock
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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December 03 2012 00:19 GMT
#5787
If we go to the end of time we can learn magic. However he did flip scum so it might not happen but it is our best bet to get additional powers.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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December 03 2012 00:21 GMT
#5793
Another bonus is we can use the bucket to travel to Lavos and kill him before scum interfere with us more...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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December 03 2012 00:22 GMT
#5794
On December 03 2012 09:21 Acrofales wrote:
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On December 03 2012 09:19 CaveJohnson wrote:
If we go to the end of time we can learn magic. However he did flip scum so it might not happen but it is our best bet to get additional powers.

We've already been there. I didn't learn magic the first time round.

We didn't move around the room though did we?
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 03 2012 00:24 GMT
#5797
On December 03 2012 09:22 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 09:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 03 2012 09:20 phagga wrote:
On December 03 2012 09:19 CaveJohnson wrote:
If we go to the end of time we can learn magic. However he did flip scum so it might not happen but it is our best bet to get additional powers.


Uh, what are you talking about exaclty? I can't follow you.


In the game, you learn magic when you travel to the End Of Time.


I got that part, but who flipped scum and why is that relevant in this context? (I assume he is talking about either Sand or Toad, but why?)


The master of war
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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December 03 2012 00:25 GMT
#5798
If you have an actual advantage for going to another time zone I'd like to here it. The closest I could think of was prehistory to get the dreamstone back.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 03 2012 00:37 GMT
#5805
On December 03 2012 09:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think that's overthinking it and we should probably focus on people who are stronger in certain time periods, e.g. Keirathi in 600AD (or so he claims)


Another advantage for the end of time then - Its neutral ground since we've killed off one of its only residences. Equal playing field where we can't be surprised by interesting scum abilities.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 03 2012 00:47 GMT
#5813
Well we all know at some level one of the main party members are going to be missing for safe claim purposes...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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December 03 2012 00:52 GMT
#5817
On December 03 2012 09:51 Hapahauli wrote:
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On December 03 2012 09:47 CaveJohnson wrote:
Well we all know at some level one of the main party members are going to be missing for safe claim purposes...


No one really knows that, unless there's something you'd like to enlighten us about your "claim?"


Its common sense
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 03 2012 00:53 GMT
#5818
Going to bed
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 03 2012 15:40 GMT
#6023
On December 04 2012 00:32 Promethelax wrote:
I'm being an asshole because I am tired and annoyed. Sorry.

Clarity: cool that you are defending me but I got this. How about some scum hunting? Or Contribution.

Draz: you are my least favourite ninja. Come here and tell me about the end of time.


Read the thread I've already stated my case on the end of time
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
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December 03 2012 15:44 GMT
#6026
On December 04 2012 00:43 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 00:40 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 04 2012 00:32 Promethelax wrote:
I'm being an asshole because I am tired and annoyed. Sorry.

Clarity: cool that you are defending me but I got this. How about some scum hunting? Or Contribution.

Draz: you are my least favourite ninja. Come here and tell me about the end of time.


Read the thread I've already stated my case on the end of time


so nothing has changed in the many hours between that explanation and your vote? And you had nothing to add about anything else?


Not really
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 03 2012 17:17 GMT
#6036
On December 04 2012 02:04 goodkarma wrote:
Did it occur to everyone that we already killed the Master of War (Spekkio)???

As such, I don't get what we're hoping to achieve at the End of Time.

Further: GreyMist has shown over and over again this game that just about anything can be thrown at us at his whim. Feel free to hope for one result (such as new magic abilities), but FULLY EXPECT you'll get another...

The ONLY THING related to times that we know about right now is that some characters have a bonus in certain times.



With the very very likely scum flip this cycle, I don't see anything too worrisome about matching up a time period with characters who have admitted having a bonus in that time + Show Spoiler +
(or even who just happen to be from that time period)
. I mean, unless this game is wildly different from a normal game setup there's going to only be 2 (maybe three) scum left. We've eliminated half their team. And we already know their KP isn't that amazing given how much trouble they've had killing even a single townie each cycle... So I'm not terribly worried if we pre-plan accordingly a party even if some of them become higher priority targets. I highly doubt that scum will be able to fully negate the additional ability advantage we will gain from such a play.


Looking at the spreadsheet, and the already claimed abilities, the time period that will most likely benefit us most is the Middle Ages (600AD). As such:

##Epoch: Middle Ages (600AD)



Neutral ground is better than shaky ground.

600AD is probably the scariest place to be as far as possible scum abilities go.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 03 2012 19:47 GMT
#6078
On December 04 2012 04:43 GreYMisT wrote:
A bit late, but celebrations are in order for breaking 300 pages!



I EQUIP MY BRONZE HELM!
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 03 2012 20:25 GMT
#6082
Exceptions can always be made Acro
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CaveJohnson
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December 03 2012 21:55 GMT
#6096
On December 04 2012 06:32 Acrofales wrote:
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On December 04 2012 05:43 phagga wrote:
Ok, the main reason I am asking this is because if I was targeted in any way with the buss, I should have gotten a bussing night action, which I do not. But as I understand it, Theoratically snb could have been bussed to djo (though I agree that it makes no sense).

What makes you think bus targets are notified?

Honestly, the normal MO is for them not to be.

Theoretically also not. I admit that bus drivers are not an easy role to understand, but Djo is one of the few people who we know could not have been on the receiving end of a bus with SnB, assuming Syllo targeted SnB. He had no spells left and would thus not have been able to target himself.

@Everybody: why are we going to the end of time on the word of Drazerk? It's retarded. His reasoning so far has been:
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On December 03 2012 09:19 CaveJohnson wrote:
If we go to the end of time we can learn magic. However he did flip scum so it might not happen but it is our best bet to get additional powers.

Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 09:37 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 03 2012 09:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think that's overthinking it and we should probably focus on people who are stronger in certain time periods, e.g. Keirathi in 600AD (or so he claims)


Another advantage for the end of time then - Its neutral ground since we've killed off one of its only residences. Equal playing field where we can't be surprised by interesting scum abilities.

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On December 04 2012 02:17 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 04 2012 02:04 goodkarma wrote:
Did it occur to everyone that we already killed the Master of War (Spekkio)???

As such, I don't get what we're hoping to achieve at the End of Time.

Further: GreyMist has shown over and over again this game that just about anything can be thrown at us at his whim. Feel free to hope for one result (such as new magic abilities), but FULLY EXPECT you'll get another...

The ONLY THING related to times that we know about right now is that some characters have a bonus in certain times.



With the very very likely scum flip this cycle, I don't see anything too worrisome about matching up a time period with characters who have admitted having a bonus in that time + Show Spoiler +
(or even who just happen to be from that time period)
. I mean, unless this game is wildly different from a normal game setup there's going to only be 2 (maybe three) scum left. We've eliminated half their team. And we already know their KP isn't that amazing given how much trouble they've had killing even a single townie each cycle... So I'm not terribly worried if we pre-plan accordingly a party even if some of them become higher priority targets. I highly doubt that scum will be able to fully negate the additional ability advantage we will gain from such a play.


Looking at the spreadsheet, and the already claimed abilities, the time period that will most likely benefit us most is the Middle Ages (600AD). As such:

##Epoch: Middle Ages (600AD)



Neutral ground is better than shaky ground.

600AD is probably the scariest place to be as far as possible scum abilities go.



This is making me uneasy: I want to go anywhere Drazerk does not want to go. I don't think he has town interests and I don't think anybody following his reasoning is thinking straight. I don't care where we go, but Drazerk pushing for the End of Time is giving me juju feelings.

600AD gives Keirathi powers. Sounds good to me. Hell, the future gives Adam powers. Sounds good to me too. End of Time gives nobody powers (not Sandroba either, judging by his role pm). Lets not help Drazerk with whatever nefarious schemes he has. I don't trust him and anybody trusting Drazerk at any point in a game like this is a blithering idiot. I learned my lesson in HRM.


We don't need extra powers to win this game. There is no possible events which can happen at the end of time leaving only a lynch as the possible choice. It makes perfect sense logic wise. I've already stated I'm from 1000AD it gives me nothing.

I will fight for the end of the time all cycle because that is where I think we will have the best chance of another lynch cycle and that is the greatest tool we can have as town. Ignore the fact that it is Drazerk suggesting this and think it as if I'm someone else. You know this makes sense.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 03 2012 23:38 GMT
#6101
That would be me Kita I jailed you which purged any buffs / debuffs from you at the same time (Cyclone/Meatpie)
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 03 2012 23:44 GMT
#6103
Because other people might of shot the scumread wasting town KP
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 03 2012 23:46 GMT
#6106
Oh yeah self preservation was the main reason I won't even lie about that
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 03 2012 23:47 GMT
#6108
I still <3 you though.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 03 2012 23:57 GMT
#6110
There are no events at the end of time. Why risk any damage on players being greedy at the end game leading to failed events.

We need to play it safe and play sensibly at that is why EoT is obviously the best choice.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 00:00 GMT
#6113
Because the EoT is some magical safe zone.

As far as the mafia game goes its neutral land - No advantages either way that is what we need to take advantage of.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 00:02 GMT
#6114
On December 04 2012 08:59 iamperfection wrote:
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On December 04 2012 08:57 CaveJohnson wrote:
There are no events at the end of time. Why risk any damage on players being greedy at the end game leading to failed events.

We need to play it safe and play sensibly at that is why EoT is obviously the best choice.

fuck logic i want to level up. plus how do you know for sure?

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Every other time zone is flooded with enemies where anything can happen. I don't want to risk anything happening this late into the game.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 08:11 GMT
#6139
If we aren't going to EoT we should go anywhere but 600AD that place is a deathtrap and going there will surely lose us the game.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 08:15 GMT
#6143
On December 04 2012 10:08 Acrofales wrote:
@Drazerk. Your "logic" already failed. Cycle 4 was at the end of time and was an event. Fail logic is fail. Why end of time?


Picking a party for another time's event isn't really an event in EoT.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 08:16 GMT
#6144
On December 04 2012 17:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
CJ how is 600AD a death trap?
As far as I know we havent actually lost anyone there.
Also I really dont think it matters ALL that much where we go other than where people get bonuses.


600AD has the largest collection of enemies in the game. Why on earth you people actually want to go there is beyond me its greedy and silly.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 08:17 GMT
#6145
On December 04 2012 17:15 Promethelax wrote:
I assume we'll get different events, or that people will be differently potent in the party depending on where we go. Or the reward is time dependent. I dunno what but I bet we get more than just some individual bonuses.


As far as rewards go something to bring people to life is found at the end of time...wouldn't that be interesting.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 14:27 GMT
#6156
At least get the dreamstone from prehistory if we aren't going to EoT
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 14:31 GMT
#6158
I don't like the idea of 600AD its far too risky and is probably where the most scum will have advantages.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 14:43 GMT
#6162
and 600AD

Clearly scum
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 21:45 GMT
#6205
Welp we're all gonna die in 600AD tomorrow...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 21:47 GMT
#6208
On December 05 2012 06:46 Promethelax wrote:
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On December 05 2012 06:45 CaveJohnson wrote:
Welp we're all gonna die in 600AD tomorrow...


why are you so sure?


Probably the worst location in the game when it comes to the amount of possible risks that are there
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 21:47 GMT
#6209
On December 05 2012 06:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On December 05 2012 06:45 CaveJohnson wrote:
Welp we're all gonna die in 600AD tomorrow...


I find it really hard to take you seriously.


Hard to take this thread seriously when you just dismiss a time zone because its me
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 21:50 GMT
#6211
On December 05 2012 06:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 06:47 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 05 2012 06:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 05 2012 06:45 CaveJohnson wrote:
Welp we're all gonna die in 600AD tomorrow...


I find it really hard to take you seriously.


Hard to take this thread seriously when you just dismiss a time zone because its me


I don't even know who you are, everyone else does and they seem to dislike you, and from what I've seen this game I can't say I blame them. I can't read you because you're all over the place and you're insisting on a certain time period, that's reason enough for me to make sure we don't do what you say.


Insisting on safety is reason for dismissal yet insisting on suicide and people jump on board?
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 21:52 GMT
#6214
The mafia game has followed the actual game pretty loyally. I see no reason to doubt that 600AD is the worst time zone to visit
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 21:55 GMT
#6218
Just stop posting SnB you attacking me is null either way so it won't work.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 21:58 GMT
#6222
Wasn't talking about you in that post...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 21:59 GMT
#6223
On December 05 2012 06:57 strongandbig wrote:
hey so who wants to talk about third party players? i bet kitaman is antitown third party


Considered it but he hit me which is pretty anti third party.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:00 GMT
#6224
SnB you need to pull a blazinghand

go go funny gifs
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:02 GMT
#6227
On December 05 2012 07:01 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 06:59 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 05 2012 06:57 strongandbig wrote:
hey so who wants to talk about third party players? i bet kitaman is antitown third party


Considered it but he hit me which is pretty anti third party.


why?


Third party need distractions to go unnoticed... I'm pretty good at creating distractions no matter what my alignment is
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:05 GMT
#6229
On December 05 2012 07:04 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 07:02 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 05 2012 07:01 Promethelax wrote:
On December 05 2012 06:59 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 05 2012 06:57 strongandbig wrote:
hey so who wants to talk about third party players? i bet kitaman is antitown third party


Considered it but he hit me which is pretty anti third party.


why?


Third party need distractions to go unnoticed... I'm pretty good at creating distractions no matter what my alignment is


but if Kita is 3p who has to kill another 3p wouldn't you be a good target?


Be better to try and lynch me, Kita is strong enough player to do that.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:11 GMT
#6231
On December 05 2012 07:07 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 07:05 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 05 2012 07:04 Promethelax wrote:
On December 05 2012 07:02 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 05 2012 07:01 Promethelax wrote:
On December 05 2012 06:59 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 05 2012 06:57 strongandbig wrote:
hey so who wants to talk about third party players? i bet kitaman is antitown third party


Considered it but he hit me which is pretty anti third party.


why?


Third party need distractions to go unnoticed... I'm pretty good at creating distractions no matter what my alignment is


but if Kita is 3p who has to kill another 3p wouldn't you be a good target?


Be better to try and lynch me, Kita is strong enough player to do that.


Do you know of any times he has played 3p? I'd be curious how involved he is. Look at risk in ACME, the sk needs to make sure they aren't a top player or target for scum kp.


Lynching town is a pretty way to avoid scum KP. Also non on the top of my head
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:37 GMT
#6234
I don't care - ANYWERE but 600AD
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:37 GMT
#6235
or rather ANYTIME
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:39 GMT
#6237
Also too many lurkers to change from 600AD now
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:41 GMT
#6239
TO THE PRESENT!
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:42 GMT
#6240
I think we will need 2 more from 600AD to swap
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:44 GMT
#6243
I blame my role saying I can't die
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:51 GMT
#6247
On December 05 2012 07:49 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 07:43 Promethelax wrote:
Well lets help Iamp out, I like him, he likes the present. Come on guys, lets make GreY work for this day post.

You don't like me?

Iamp just thinks *MAYBE* he can get a bonus if he's in a party in the present. I *KNOW* I get bonuses if I'm in a party during 600 AD. Remember how I got to jail someone after cycle 1?


There are a lot of people from 1000AD we're probably gonna hit a bunch on bonuses regardless
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:53 GMT
#6250
safer option than 600AD
Huge bonuses for a few of the main cast
Lots of people already from 1000AD can get bonuses
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:55 GMT
#6254
On December 05 2012 07:54 Hapahauli wrote:
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On December 05 2012 07:53 CaveJohnson wrote:
safer option than 600AD
Huge bonuses for a few of the main cast
Lots of people already from 1000AD can get bonuses


Well I'm part of the main cast, and nowhere does it suggest that I get a bonus in my PM. You seem to be speculating a lot about how the hosts designed things, and I really hate playing that game.


That sort of information is probably the information kept out of PMs

It would be too OP to include it
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:58 GMT
#6256
The sort of powers Lucca would get are different to them. At least in my eyes
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:59 GMT
#6259
On December 05 2012 07:58 Acrofales wrote:
So who thinks I should switch. Quick, 3 more minutes to make up your mind where you want me to go. If Clarity and Syllo say jump, I'll jump.


They already have
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 22:59 GMT
#6261
WE NEED MORE VOTES
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 23:01 GMT
#6266
On December 05 2012 08:00 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, CJ, I'm playing ability roulette with you tonight. Just for giggles. Who knows what will hit you!


Using levitation sucks to be you
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 00:05 GMT
#6275
I gained the ability to guarantee a success but you take 100 damage (It was supposed to be deafening blast...)

So anyone have 100 health spare or should I ignore it?
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 00:09 GMT
#6279
Also VE roles clears a few people I guess
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 00:11 GMT
#6281
Lynch I was too quick to post that I guss
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 00:14 GMT
#6286
To be fair I locked in that action 47 hours ago Acro and I still have ghost walk lol
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 00:17 GMT
#6289
Now Now

SnB knows my method of scum play. He would have been willing to shoot his own team mates if it won him the game.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 00:30 GMT
#6305
On December 05 2012 09:27 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:25 Keirathi wrote:
One thing that is worrying me about drazerk:

In every single game, no matter if they are town/town or scum/town, draz and S&B yell at each other and fight because they HATE each other. There was none of that this game?

That's what I meant with the weird interaction between the two. Also, it's more of a love-hate relationship.

There is only love between us. Also I brought this up on like Cycle 2.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 00:31 GMT
#6306
On November 27 2012 00:41 CaveJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 00:01 Acrofales wrote:
Imho Iamperfection is still by far the scummiest lurkers out of the lurking lot. Maybe Drazerk, but I'm biased because since HRM it is my mission in any mafia game to kill Drazerk.


I can tell... Notice how even SnB hasn't acted against me?

I thought I'd bring it up to you since you know our relationship a little too well

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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 12:07 GMT
#6395
On December 05 2012 21:00 Acrofales wrote:
@Drazerk: you are not playing your normal style. For one, you are not yelling that you should be killed before lylo, and are actually scared about staying alive, using your protective abilities on yourself rather than someone useful to town. Why is that?


I jailed Kita didn't I? gimme some credit.

Also I've already said - I need to be alive when Lavos spawns Grey knows me too well.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 12:07 GMT
#6396
On December 05 2012 21:03 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:22 kitaman27 wrote:
cave because I'm starting to get tired of giving him papercuts and hoping he dies from infection.


Were you able to hit him last night?


I was untargetable. Nothing could touch me last night
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 12:15 GMT
#6400
On December 05 2012 21:13 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 21:07 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 05 2012 21:03 Acrofales wrote:
On December 05 2012 09:22 kitaman27 wrote:
cave because I'm starting to get tired of giving him papercuts and hoping he dies from infection.


Were you able to hit him last night?


I was untargetable. Nothing could touch me last night

Did I ask you? Derp.

Anyway, why do you have to be alive when Lavos spawns? You just keep adding to your wacko "town" roleclaim.


I said this in the initial claim...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 12:24 GMT
#6403
huh I thought I included it... oh well
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 12:32 GMT
#6406
Sure lets lynch me
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 12:35 GMT
#6408
On December 05 2012 21:34 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 21:07 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 05 2012 21:00 Acrofales wrote:
@Drazerk: you are not playing your normal style. For one, you are not yelling that you should be killed before lylo, and are actually scared about staying alive, using your protective abilities on yourself rather than someone useful to town. Why is that?


I jailed Kita didn't I? gimme some credit.

Also I've already said - I need to be alive when Lavos spawns Grey knows me too well.


Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 21:32 CaveJohnson wrote:
Sure lets lynch me


Took all of 25 minutes?


Who said lynching me would kill me
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 12:47 GMT
#6411
On December 05 2012 21:46 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 21:35 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 05 2012 21:34 Acrofales wrote:
On December 05 2012 21:07 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 05 2012 21:00 Acrofales wrote:
@Drazerk: you are not playing your normal style. For one, you are not yelling that you should be killed before lylo, and are actually scared about staying alive, using your protective abilities on yourself rather than someone useful to town. Why is that?


I jailed Kita didn't I? gimme some credit.

Also I've already said - I need to be alive when Lavos spawns Grey knows me too well.


On December 05 2012 21:32 CaveJohnson wrote:
Sure lets lynch me


Took all of 25 minutes?


Who said lynching me would kill me

It killed Toad just fine when he claimed he was unlynchable. I'm not afraid of you being a jester this game.

Lets play the fool game once more then
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 12:52 GMT
#6413
I claimed an ability like it. Didn't use it though.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 20:17 GMT
#6523
So do I have to campaign for prehistory again?
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 20:46 GMT
#6527
All my abilities are one shot or I would just keep spamming levitation every cycle Syllo
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 21:48 GMT
#6557
On December 06 2012 06:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 06:37 Acrofales wrote:
I just read Zbo's filter and it is completely inconclusive. He has accused pretty much everybody of being scum for rather terrible reasons. Now he may really be trying to figure people out, pressuring them with long cases and reacting to their response, or he could be scum making bad cases on people in order to look townie.

There are some posts that just don't sit right with me, but it could be the problem of English as a second language.

His vote for Sandro D1 is not really indicative of alignment. His reasoning for the vote might be, but depends on meta. He never hopped off, but scum could easily have hopped off: Sandro wasn't getting elected.

His vote for Toad on D2 is also not indicative of alignment. He spends most of the day tunneling TC and never leaves off his scum read, however it was clear that TC was not going to be lynched. Choices were basically Sandro and Toad and a non-Sandro vote is consistent with his D1 behaviour.

After the lynch he makes a couple of posts accusing various people of being scum, but his activity drops off and he never follows up with actions. I will have to look at VE and SnB's filters to see if there's any associative tells, but Zbo's filter doesn't give me much to work with.

At the moment I am liking the test. Austin healing H1 seems like a pretty good idea. H1 is an unlikely target for other protection and I think he's probably town. Lets see if he can get that heal.

Back to deciding between CJ and risk which one is worse.

CJ will always be bad. Risk could be useful, he just isn't right now.

I find that rather offensive considering I'm one of the only reasons why we even got a lynch this cycle.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 21:56 GMT
#6560
On December 06 2012 06:54 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 06:48 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 06 2012 06:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
On December 06 2012 06:37 Acrofales wrote:
I just read Zbo's filter and it is completely inconclusive. He has accused pretty much everybody of being scum for rather terrible reasons. Now he may really be trying to figure people out, pressuring them with long cases and reacting to their response, or he could be scum making bad cases on people in order to look townie.

There are some posts that just don't sit right with me, but it could be the problem of English as a second language.

His vote for Sandro D1 is not really indicative of alignment. His reasoning for the vote might be, but depends on meta. He never hopped off, but scum could easily have hopped off: Sandro wasn't getting elected.

His vote for Toad on D2 is also not indicative of alignment. He spends most of the day tunneling TC and never leaves off his scum read, however it was clear that TC was not going to be lynched. Choices were basically Sandro and Toad and a non-Sandro vote is consistent with his D1 behaviour.

After the lynch he makes a couple of posts accusing various people of being scum, but his activity drops off and he never follows up with actions. I will have to look at VE and SnB's filters to see if there's any associative tells, but Zbo's filter doesn't give me much to work with.

At the moment I am liking the test. Austin healing H1 seems like a pretty good idea. H1 is an unlikely target for other protection and I think he's probably town. Lets see if he can get that heal.

Back to deciding between CJ and risk which one is worse.

CJ will always be bad. Risk could be useful, he just isn't right now.

I find that rather offensive considering I'm one of the only reasons why we even got a lynch this cycle.


Pure speculation... Do you even have scum suspects. Or are you too busy being a useless troll?


I have scum suspects but we saw what happened when I tried to do anything this game.
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 22:15 GMT
#6566
On December 06 2012 06:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 06:48 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 06 2012 06:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
On December 06 2012 06:37 Acrofales wrote:
I just read Zbo's filter and it is completely inconclusive. He has accused pretty much everybody of being scum for rather terrible reasons. Now he may really be trying to figure people out, pressuring them with long cases and reacting to their response, or he could be scum making bad cases on people in order to look townie.

There are some posts that just don't sit right with me, but it could be the problem of English as a second language.

His vote for Sandro D1 is not really indicative of alignment. His reasoning for the vote might be, but depends on meta. He never hopped off, but scum could easily have hopped off: Sandro wasn't getting elected.

His vote for Toad on D2 is also not indicative of alignment. He spends most of the day tunneling TC and never leaves off his scum read, however it was clear that TC was not going to be lynched. Choices were basically Sandro and Toad and a non-Sandro vote is consistent with his D1 behaviour.

After the lynch he makes a couple of posts accusing various people of being scum, but his activity drops off and he never follows up with actions. I will have to look at VE and SnB's filters to see if there's any associative tells, but Zbo's filter doesn't give me much to work with.

At the moment I am liking the test. Austin healing H1 seems like a pretty good idea. H1 is an unlikely target for other protection and I think he's probably town. Lets see if he can get that heal.

Back to deciding between CJ and risk which one is worse.

CJ will always be bad. Risk could be useful, he just isn't right now.

I find that rather offensive considering I'm one of the only reasons why we even got a lynch this cycle.

Let's pretend that this was both verifiable and true. What era will give us another lynch? Unless you know something we don't, you're talking out of your ass like you always do.


We will prove this post game or next cycle when it isn't a lynch.

The nos -

65,000,000 BC (Changed my mind since we have unfinished business but doesn't impact the story)
600 AD (SO MANY MONSTERS)

The Maybes -

2300 AD (Should have the plants in the domes this time IIRC)
12,000 BC (While dangerous we probably need to go there to weaken Lavos and actually win the game and I can guarantee a success with a Chipotle ham sandwhich with pancakes as bread drizzled with syrup)
End Of Time (Yeah I've argued this enough)
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 23:24 GMT
#6587
On December 06 2012 08:16 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 07:15 CaveJohnson wrote:
<snip>
12,000 BC (While dangerous we probably need to go there to weaken Lavos and actually win the game and I can guarantee a success with a Chipotle ham sandwhich with pancakes as bread drizzled with syrup)

This sounds disgusting, but made me giggle.

Does this depend on you being in the party? If so, it's not going to happen.

Also, are you targetable this cycle? I want to mason chat you. You're bound to be more fun than anybody else here and the tactical value of my mason chat is near 0, so I might as well waste it on enabling skype convos with you WITHOUT Hassy.


Nope I hit someone they gain the item and they go on the mission. I can use this on anyone.

For being targetable, yes I am annoyingly since I don't have ghost walk available this cycle (Toss up between incinerate or the success modifying sandwich)

also hassy was amazing even if she was a two timing whore
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 23:45 GMT
#6590
On December 06 2012 08:33 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 08:23 Acrofales wrote:
I can see no pattern based on era. Also no pattern based on "can only roleblock whom he damaged". Mind explaining a bit more?


Maybe we can compromise and I could clear things up if you would reveal your "secondary win condition"

@Cave....still no 16 role claims?


Its less than 16 due to role blocks but I think all of them are in my filter bar 1 maybe
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 06 2012 00:08 GMT
#6594
On December 06 2012 08:48 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 08:45 CaveJohnson wrote:
On December 06 2012 08:33 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 06 2012 08:23 Acrofales wrote:
I can see no pattern based on era. Also no pattern based on "can only roleblock whom he damaged". Mind explaining a bit more?


Maybe we can compromise and I could clear things up if you would reveal your "secondary win condition"

@Cave....still no 16 role claims?


Its less than 16 due to role blocks but I think all of them are in my filter bar 1 maybe


can you put all your claims in one post. For my own piece of mind. Thanks. If you do this I will help you try to take us to Antiquity instead of 600.


Eurgh I can't follow that mess can't you just take my notes

Lightning shield - May be worth using
Firestorm - worthless
Chaos meteor - worthless
Ghost walk - WHY DIDN'T I USE THIS INSTEAD OF EMP
Disarm - Usable but not a priority
Incinerate - use if gonna be lynched
Deafening blast - use if not going to be lynched (let thread decide though)
Betrayal - No idea what it did
Cold snap - Probably roleblocked him
EMP - Terrible Terrible damage
Tornado - That will teach him
Levitation - Floating in the air....

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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 06 2012 00:10 GMT
#6595
Actually I probably should of left incinerate out of that...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 06 2012 00:12 GMT
#6597
On December 06 2012 09:11 kitaman27 wrote:
So do those names actually have descriptions or do you just have to guess?


They do but I don't want to give out the ones I haven't used yet (with the exception of deafening blast for obvious reasons)
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 06 2012 00:16 GMT
#6598
Also going to bed
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 06 2012 08:29 GMT
#6611
On December 06 2012 15:05 Promethelax wrote:
I promised draz:


## unvote
## vote: risk
## epoch antiquity


Do you want the sandwich?

Remember it hurts you as well so if your low on hp don't say yes
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 06 2012 08:42 GMT
#6613
100
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 06 2012 20:24 GMT
#6651
We still have the sandwich to discuss you know...
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 06 2012 21:11 GMT
#6657
On December 07 2012 06:10 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 05:24 CaveJohnson wrote:
We still have the sandwich to discuss you know...

What's there to discuss? You are claiming that if you use it on someone in the party we cannot fail the event. That seems ridiculous. However, I don't see much harm in it either. I am not opposed to having Prom on a party and if the party fails, you are next on the chopping block. It's pretty simple.

Fine with me
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#6658
Also I'm not even gonna try this cycle... 600ad seems to be set in stone
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 06 2012 22:59 GMT
#6671
Acro gets the sandvitch expect only 50 damage
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 06 2012 23:02 GMT
#6674
On December 07 2012 08:01 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 07:59 CaveJohnson wrote:
Acro gets the sandvitch expect only 50 damage

You're an idiot.

Don't care you're going
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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 06 2012 23:18 GMT
#6681
GL
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