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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 23 2012 00:43 GMT
#1721
I stand corrected.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 23 2012 00:45 GMT
#1722
I wonder what happened (or perhaps, didn't happen) because we succeeded the mission.
At the very least this makes syllo and dieno relatively close to confirmed town, right?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 23 2012 00:47 GMT
#1723
On November 23 2012 09:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
I wonder what happened (or perhaps, didn't happen) because we succeeded the mission.
At the very least this makes syllo and dieno relatively close to confirmed town, right?


Why only those two?

I see no reason not to trust all four of the people on that mission.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 23 2012 00:47 GMT
#1724
@syllogism
Are you willing to explain you choice of keir for your party?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 23 2012 00:48 GMT
#1725
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.

It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD)
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 23 2012 00:51 GMT
#1726
On November 23 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.

It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD)


Having to get two mafia elected onto a team of four to cause a failure hardly seems fair from a balance perspective considering the probable demographic that's being worked with (ie 3x as many town on average).

Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 23 2012 00:53 GMT
#1727
On November 23 2012 09:51 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.

It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD)


Having to get two mafia elected onto a team of four to cause a failure hardly seems fair from a balance perspective considering the probable demographic that's being worked with (ie 3x as many town on average).



Again, frog gives a bonus to likelyhood of success. So I believe with that in mind it is very much possible.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 23 2012 00:54 GMT
#1728
I begged Keir to shut you guys up when it came to setup speculation, btw.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 23 2012 00:54 GMT
#1729
Wrong thread, I'm so sorry.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 23 2012 00:55 GMT
#1730
On November 23 2012 09:51 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.

It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD)


Having to get two mafia elected onto a team of four to cause a failure hardly seems fair from a balance perspective considering the probable demographic that's being worked with (ie 3x as many town on average).



agree. As an example in resistance games the team size increases with each mission and it was:
With a 3 man team 1 mafia inside the team is enough to fail the mission
With a 4 man team 1 mafia inside the team is enough to fail the mission
With a 5 man team 2 mafias inside the team is enough to fail the mission
With a 6 man team 2 mafias inside the team is enough to fail the mission.
(not actually a quote, just for formatting purposes)

for resistance-1 if I remember correctly. I was mafia in resistance 1 so I'm actually fairly certain and don't feel like doublechecking...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 23 2012 00:56 GMT
#1731
On November 23 2012 09:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 09:51 Adam4167 wrote:
On November 23 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.

It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD)


Having to get two mafia elected onto a team of four to cause a failure hardly seems fair from a balance perspective considering the probable demographic that's being worked with (ie 3x as many town on average).



Again, frog gives a bonus to likelyhood of success. So I believe with that in mind it is very much possible.

We don't know that, and skimming dieno's filter, I'm not finding HIM saying that. I'm sure I indirectly suggested 600AD characters are more powerful here, and I think someone else suggested taking dieno for the fact that he was frog/glenn.

Anyways, I`d leave people from the party alone for now, the event was a success.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
November 23 2012 00:57 GMT
#1732
K, I scrolled straight to the daypost. Nice job. Now reading the rest. Comments will be forthcoming. Also, I took some damage. Not sure I should claim how much yet, might tell later.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 23 2012 00:58 GMT
#1733
I recall him saying something like that, maybe not? Dieno when you're around please let us know.
Yeah, I'm not saying anyone on the party is a good lynch whatsoever, merely trying to speculate a bit.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
November 23 2012 01:00 GMT
#1734
On November 23 2012 07:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:05 Keirathi wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:55 Z-BosoN wrote:
Strong town read on marv? Really? If marv hadn't told be beforehand he wasn't gonna take this game seriously, I would have gone with scum read on marv. He spends a ton of time arguing with cave fellow for no reason at all, the guy is and has been a lost cause since he began posting. He's not nearly as active and as involved as his other games. He's not willing to run for party. I've reread his filter and there is nooooo way you can get a town read on marv that fast, with that kind of bad reasoning. Someone else had a town fast, with zero reasoning. Especially SNB, who's played with him a ton of times.

SnB's filter though seems pretty much like his town filter from last game, in terms of low activity and post coutn, but I haven't played with him much. Marv, do you have any meta read on him?

S&B quoted this with a silly response, but it really doesn't make a lot of sense. You spent a lot of words to say you don't have a town read on marv, then in the same breath ask marv for his meta read of S&B. If marv is, in fact, not town while S&B is, don't you think he would theoretically try to strengthen your scum read on S&B via answering your question?


On this game I can tell SnB's filter looks more like the last game we played with and he was town (which I got right, thanks) than in his scum games, and marv wouldn't have been crazy enough to give SnB a scum read here, from either faction.
Not sure I understand your issue, do you not interact with people you are suspicious of?

What do you think of snb? Do you agree that adam looks like new scum trying to blend in?

In case this hadn't been mentioned yet. The meta I know about adam is that he lurks regardless of alignment. He is also definitely not new. He's been around for longer than I have.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
November 23 2012 01:01 GMT
#1735
EBWOP: meant to say that I feel this is more like his town lurk, than his scum lurk, but I am hardly very confident in that read.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 23 2012 01:07 GMT
#1736
On November 23 2012 09:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
I recall him saying something like that, maybe not? Dieno when you're around please let us know.
Yeah, I'm not saying anyone on the party is a good lynch whatsoever, merely trying to speculate a bit.


Since when do you like speculating? ^_^

Given we have hidden success modifiers, this could influence how many mafia are needed in a team for a failure. Perhaps on average one mafia would result in failure; but if the other 3 townies all had particularly high success modifiers because it was their timeline or whatever reason, maybe mafia would need 2, or one of their own with a particularly high... failure? modifier.

That's my bit of speculation for the day :D
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
November 23 2012 01:08 GMT
#1737
On November 23 2012 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 09:13 TheChronicler wrote:
On November 23 2012 09:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Good job. I'm wondering a bit why Deinosaur but it worked out fine.

Lynching Sandroba should be the way to go for today. Maybe Marv.


Lol, nice soft defense.

How is that a soft defense?
I basicly said that I would not have picked Deinosaur, as in I didn't consider him to be a clear townie at all.
I said I want Sandroba and Marv lynch.

What part of that post is defending someone?


I'm talking about you trying to get votes on marv when sand is trending. I wouldn't even mind if you had done it with some reasoning.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 23 2012 01:08 GMT
#1738
Stop. Its fucking pointless in this cycle.
No gg, No skill.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 23 2012 01:08 GMT
#1739
On November 23 2012 10:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Stop. Its fucking pointless in this cycle.


What is, speculating? Why is it pointless?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 23 2012 01:09 GMT
#1740
EWBOP: My post was directed at hopeless/clarity/marv. Not chronicler :D
No gg, No skill.
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