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On November 23 2012 09:13 TheChronicler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 09:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Good job. I'm wondering a bit why Deinosaur but it worked out fine.
Lynching Sandroba should be the way to go for today. Maybe Marv. Lol, nice soft defense.
How is that a soft defense?
I basicly said that I would not have picked Deinosaur, as in I didn't consider him to be a clear townie at all.
I said I want Sandroba and Marv lynch.
What part of that post is defending someone?
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kitaman27
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On November 23 2012 09:06 Adam4167 wrote:
In regards to my post to kita, I think it stands fine as it is. I am trying to figure out what the hell he is doing, because he claims to want to be taken seriously, but then posts a page of 'joke' reads and then campaigns as if they're perfectly acceptable. I am trying to ascertain if he is just goofing around, and I should ignore him, or if hes intentionally posting more garbage into this thread, something I think we can do without.
I had one joke post and one joke read on risk. That's like 5% of my posts, yet you've brought it up three different times. Is this really your biggest concern.
I nominate Cave as an alternative to sandroba (I'm still in favor of a sandroba lynch while he continues to be afk, and likely even after he returns)
On November 23 2012 02:46 CaveJohnson wrote:I blame Acro for this post but apparently my posting is too unique it doesn't work anyway and I feel I need to explain a few things to keep Acro / S+B being murdered because they know me too well. I claim Drazerk the Invoker Chef I prepare dishes far and wide and have learnt techniques lost in time. I have 27 1 time use abilities and 1 multiple use ability but I can't use any if I go on a mission. So far I know 2 of my abilities (THEY ARE SO GOOOOOOOD) and can gain the knowledge of 2 more each cycle (although I can technically use any ability without knowing what it does but I'm not that insane). My success modifier is 4 which is too low to justify not using either of my 2 abilities I already have. Also I still dislike Marv / DJ and I think any votes for Syllo is a vote wasted. However there is at least 1 third party in the game judging by my flavour (I can handle them myself before you ask). Now to read what I've missed.
He's clearly lying about his success modifier. It's a hidden value and he has no benchmark to lead him to believe 4 is a high number. He isn't keeping up with the thread. He's likely lying about his role and has a history of lying about his role. For whatever reason, he claims to think he would be a likely roleblock target. He has a history of never contributing in any game he has ever played in (and I mean that in the nicest of ways <3)
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On November 23 2012 09:21 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 09:06 Adam4167 wrote:
In regards to my post to kita, I think it stands fine as it is. I am trying to figure out what the hell he is doing, because he claims to want to be taken seriously, but then posts a page of 'joke' reads and then campaigns as if they're perfectly acceptable. I am trying to ascertain if he is just goofing around, and I should ignore him, or if hes intentionally posting more garbage into this thread, something I think we can do without. I had one joke post and one joke read on risk. That's like 5% of my posts, yet you've brought it up three different times. Is this really your biggest concern. I nominate Cave as an alternative to sandroba (I'm still in favor of a sandroba lynch while he continues to be afk, and likely even after he returns) Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 02:46 CaveJohnson wrote:I blame Acro for this post but apparently my posting is too unique it doesn't work anyway and I feel I need to explain a few things to keep Acro / S+B being murdered because they know me too well. I claim Drazerk the Invoker Chef I prepare dishes far and wide and have learnt techniques lost in time. I have 27 1 time use abilities and 1 multiple use ability but I can't use any if I go on a mission. So far I know 2 of my abilities (THEY ARE SO GOOOOOOOD) and can gain the knowledge of 2 more each cycle (although I can technically use any ability without knowing what it does but I'm not that insane). My success modifier is 4 which is too low to justify not using either of my 2 abilities I already have. Also I still dislike Marv / DJ and I think any votes for Syllo is a vote wasted. However there is at least 1 third party in the game judging by my flavour (I can handle them myself before you ask). Now to read what I've missed. He's clearly lying about his success modifier. It's a hidden value and he has no benchmark to lead him to believe 4 is a high number. He isn't keeping up with the thread. He's likely lying about his role and has a history of lying about his role. For whatever reason, he claims to think he would be a likely roleblock target. He has a history of never contributing in any game he has ever played in (and I mean that in the nicest of ways <3)
Is he scum though? If it is draz, (and I have limited first hand experience) he does this kind of shit regardless. I'd rather not lynch him. I need to read sandroba, but before anything else, I cite his Looney Lynching play as exhibit A on why lack of activity =\= scum sandroba. His interactions with syllo on the other hand...well I'm going to go look into that one.
My setup exploration was unproductive by the way.
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On November 23 2012 09:06 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 06:55 Z-BosoN wrote:Another player that's come up as scum to me is Adam4167. He has an extremely low post count. This alone doesn't kill anyone of course, but his posts seem to me like just someone trying to fake a contribution. His reasoning for voting sandroba is just... contrived: On November 23 2012 01:16 Adam4167 wrote:On November 23 2012 00:51 phagga wrote:On November 23 2012 00:44 Adam4167 wrote:
I like how syllogism is thinking.
##vote syllogism Can you please elaborate a bit more what it is exactly that you like? Why yes, I can. I agree that it looks like sandroba is phoning it in. He seems to be genuinely interested in figuring this game out. I like that he is not entirely confident in his reads at this point, because I'd be less inclined to vote someone claiming to have it 'all figured out' considering what's been put into the thread in the last 24 hours. I like that he's trying to figure out the mafia's strategy, even if I do consider that futile. I consider it more likely from a townie, rather than mafia faking it. Like, how does he like that he's not entirely confident in how sandroba is posting? The guy gives more arguments to who he wants to not vote rather to the guy he's voting. It feels like he is just voting for syllo due to some other agenda rather than his own. He says he's not gonna vote for someone claiming to have it "all figured out" as a pretext of not voting for sand, which firstly doesn't make sense to me, and secondly, if anyone has given me an impression to have it all figured out, it's syllo. Syllo seems extremely confident in his shallow "scum might attempt to sabotage my party" argument and to me it feels a bit unnatural. (syllo's post I'm referring might have been made later than Adam's, I'm lazy to check this out.) But the main point is: Why doesn't Adam comment on the person he's voting, rather on the person he's NOT voting, especially when asked by phagga on his vote on sylla? This makes 0 sense to me from a town perspective. His next post on kita seems to me like the definition of scum trying to blend in: On November 23 2012 01:25 Adam4167 wrote:On November 23 2012 01:02 kitaman27 wrote:On November 22 2012 15:31 Adam4167 wrote:Kitaman, I liked what you were saying early yesterday but this post, I do not like: On November 21 2012 21:42 kitaman27 wrote:
There are quite a few people who claim to be voting for sandroba on the basis that they claim to be able to easily differentiate his scum play from his town play. The only reason I see this as the case is that he commonly gets lazy and stops caring or posting as mafia. However, that's simply due to personal choice. How many people here other than maybe syllo are confidant they can identify a scum sandro when he remains active? Having played with him in pypi (an election game), I know he is quite capable of fooling most people when there is something he wants.
I'm quite puzzled by the fact that marv hasn't run for election. As being one of the most active players recently, I think he would be fairly confident at being able to gain support for himself. As town, I know I want to be the leader because that is the only way to directly increase our chances of success. marv however appears to want to avoid the spotlight and participate in an advising role or at least gauge the support he has. Could you explain this decision?
Work time. I'll try to start identifying some town players when I get back if I'm confident enough. Why are you trying to ward people away from voting for sandroba? You are fear mongering that he 'might' be turning over a new-leaf as scum and as such, shouldn't vote for him on that basis. So far, all that you've done to indicate that you think sandroba is scum is to colour his name in red (along with syllo and marv) with no other explanation. Care to go into detail about why you think he is scum? Well it wouldn't be a new leaf. I'm saying its something I've seen before playing mafia with him. The reason that I'm bringing it up is that I don't buy into so many people voting for him because he is simply easy to read. I'm not willing to call him scum yet, but I'm willing to say he isn't in my top 10 of people to choose from. You say that you are not willing to call them scum yet, then what is the deal with this post: linkI am perplexed by this post. You go on to say further that it was 'hardly a joke campaign', so... what was the point of it? New scum, that is. I mean, isn't it kind of obvious the point of the campaign was to.. make his case on why he's a better candidate? He's pretty much echoing suspicion from hapa, only to go ahead and disappear. Pretty much fits the bill of a lurking scum.
Your case is just bad. I am not new, I have been part of this community for over a year - I took a couple months off to sort out some personal issues. I always have a lower post count then most, due to time zone conflicts and a seething hatred of people posting complete garbage in the thread, forcing me to read 15-30 page filters later in the game. The first quote of mine you've highlighted is not why i'm voting for sandroba, as you've titled it, its why im voting for syllogism. You don't seem to fully understand what it is i'm saying, as you cant seem to figure out if im voting for sandroba or syllo. I AM happy that syllo seems to be having an issue discerning solid reads because I am having that issue also, it shows that he has a similar mindset to mine and as a result, probably the same alignment. 'Why doesnt Adam comment on the person hes voting for, rather than the person hes not voting for'. I havent mentioned sandroba bar this one comment 'I agree that it looks like sandroba is phoning it in', a comment syllo made and I agree with, hence partly why he is getting my vote. In regards to my post to kita, I think it stands fine as it is. I am trying to figure out what the hell he is doing, because he claims to want to be taken seriously, but then posts a page of 'joke' reads and then campaigns as if they're perfectly acceptable. I am trying to ascertain if he is just goofing around, and I should ignore him, or if hes intentionally posting more garbage into this thread, something I think we can do without. Go back, reread the entire exchange, and try to word your case so that it actually makes sense so I can try to understand exactly what you are saying.
When I made my case I thought you were new here, and your play seemed to me exactly how someone new would have played. I found the part I emphasized pretty clear though.
Someone asked why you were voting for syllogism.
Then you make an explanation based on other people, whilst saying nothing about syllogism. At least this was what I understood. I now see that I just misinterpreted your post.
I agree that it looks like sandroba is phoning it in.
He seems to be genuinely interested in figuring this game out.
I like that he is not entirely confident in his reads at this point, because I'd be less inclined to vote someone claiming to have it 'all figured out' considering what's been put into the thread in the last 24 hours.
I like that he's trying to figure out the mafia's strategy, even if I do consider that futile. I consider it more likely from a townie, rather than mafia faking it.
Since I don't know what "phoning it in" means, I assumed that was something good, because later you said "he" (i.e sandroba) seems to be geuinely interested in figuring things out.
Anyways, now that you have manifested yourself, do you agree with the sandroba wagon?
I said earlier that I feel people would correctly identify him as scum, but when I said that I meant people who have actually played with him, not newer players who have never seen him play.
For all intents and purposes, everyone on that wagon should be considered town, at least for now. I don't get why syllo's success makes sand scum.
So, @Syllogism, do you think sandroba's play is him being scum? He started out pretty good imo, but his absence here is not cool at all.
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On November 23 2012 09:21 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 09:06 Adam4167 wrote:
In regards to my post to kita, I think it stands fine as it is. I am trying to figure out what the hell he is doing, because he claims to want to be taken seriously, but then posts a page of 'joke' reads and then campaigns as if they're perfectly acceptable. I am trying to ascertain if he is just goofing around, and I should ignore him, or if hes intentionally posting more garbage into this thread, something I think we can do without. I had one joke post and one joke read on risk. That's like 5% of my posts, yet you've brought it up three different times. Is this really your biggest concern.
I bring it up because it was used as evidence against me in a case.
For what its worth, I still have no idea what your goal is.
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Also, am I the only one troubled that Toad is not posting relatively at all?
In LVII he was annoying as hell with huge posts, being SK (but trying to look townie), and I haven't seen him doing this here at all...
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On November 23 2012 09:31 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, am I the only one troubled that Toad is not posting relatively at all?
In LVII he was annoying as hell with huge posts, being SK (but trying to look townie), and I haven't seen him doing this here at all...
+ Show Spoiler +On November 23 2012 00:48 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 00:36 risk.nuke wrote:On November 23 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:On November 22 2012 23:56 Toadesstern wrote:
@both:
Yeah kind of. I really think that the most likely scenario is that either Sandro or Syllo is mafia. And I am trying to figure things out, hence the Kita vote :p What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event? What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy? Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice. What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question. dude I just answered that with the post you quoted... Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else. Okay, let me rephrase: Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well). Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process? nope I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say? Why do you want this, Toad? I still need to find the guy I want to vote for. Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros. Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine. Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it. That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to? what do you mean I'm asking the wrong question? And what questions are you referring to? What the hell are you talking about? The fact that you asked about Goodkarma rather than why I'm voting Kita without reasoning. I would have thought the 2nd one should be the more interesting part. Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 00:35 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 00:30 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:23 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
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What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?
What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?
Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.
What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question. dude I just answered that with the post you quoted... Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else. Okay, let me rephrase: Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well). Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process? nope I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say? Why do you want this, Toad? I still need to find the guy I want to vote for. Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros. Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine. Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it.
That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to? Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing. If you still need to find a guy you want to vote for, why have you made a placeholder vote? In your first post of the game you said you would only be voting for someone you definitely had a townread on. Your play definitely needs emphasizing because it is out of character for you and it is quite important to know why. Okay marv. How many games did we play together? Tell me just one game in which I don't do things with lacking reasoning to get some reactions. I mean I wouldn't put it that way: Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing. because that's hardly the intention but I'm doing that literally every single game. Hence my suprise about why you're so puzzled of all people. Perhaps I don't remember your play too well, then. Sure you do illogical things, and half the time I don't understand what your posts are saying, but usually they are part of some big show. I don't think I'm wrong to think this. There's a lack of HypnoToad so far, don't you think? For all I know what you're criticising is "HypnoToad". Remember the game I was the phone booth mason in which you were mafia? I'd say that game was a characteristic "screw this I'm board, let's HypnoToad"-game to the extreme. I'm not planning on doing that again but that's what "HypnoToad" is about. Yeah there was no big fireworks this time around but it's still early in the game, isn't it? So I'm really having troubles with your judgement here. You're telling me there was little HypnoToad in this game so far and yet you're criticising me right now? That just not making sense and again, I feel like you should know better of all the people. Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 00:33 Acrofales wrote:On November 23 2012 00:30 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:23 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
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What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?
What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?
Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.
What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question. dude I just answered that with the post you quoted... Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else. Okay, let me rephrase: Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well). Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process? nope I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say? Why do you want this, Toad? I still need to find the guy I want to vote for. Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros. Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine. Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it.
That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to? Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing. If you still need to find a guy you want to vote for, why have you made a placeholder vote? In your first post of the game you said you would only be voting for someone you definitely had a townread on. Your play definitely needs emphasizing because it is out of character for you and it is quite important to know why. Okay marv. How many games did we play together? Tell me just one game in which I don't do things with lacking reasoning to get some reactions. I mean I wouldn't put it that way: Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing. because that's hardly the intention but I'm doing that literally every single game. Hence my suprise about why you're so puzzled of all people. Oh god, is this Toad the drama queen feeling unloved because he didn't get elected party leader, so will now throw a temper tantrum by playing badly until the rest of town listens to him? Dude, if you knew :p I'm going to run to leader every single day from now on. I have to, it's my nature 
Having played only a couple games with Toad, I'm not all that familiar with HypnoToad. Is that kind of what you're talking about Z-Bo? Can you link a couple town games that you think he isnt living up to?
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On November 23 2012 09:28 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 09:06 Adam4167 wrote:On November 23 2012 06:55 Z-BosoN wrote:Another player that's come up as scum to me is Adam4167. He has an extremely low post count. This alone doesn't kill anyone of course, but his posts seem to me like just someone trying to fake a contribution. His reasoning for voting sandroba is just... contrived: On November 23 2012 01:16 Adam4167 wrote:On November 23 2012 00:51 phagga wrote:On November 23 2012 00:44 Adam4167 wrote:
I like how syllogism is thinking.
##vote syllogism Can you please elaborate a bit more what it is exactly that you like? Why yes, I can. I agree that it looks like sandroba is phoning it in. He seems to be genuinely interested in figuring this game out. I like that he is not entirely confident in his reads at this point, because I'd be less inclined to vote someone claiming to have it 'all figured out' considering what's been put into the thread in the last 24 hours. I like that he's trying to figure out the mafia's strategy, even if I do consider that futile. I consider it more likely from a townie, rather than mafia faking it. Like, how does he like that he's not entirely confident in how sandroba is posting? The guy gives more arguments to who he wants to not vote rather to the guy he's voting. It feels like he is just voting for syllo due to some other agenda rather than his own. He says he's not gonna vote for someone claiming to have it "all figured out" as a pretext of not voting for sand, which firstly doesn't make sense to me, and secondly, if anyone has given me an impression to have it all figured out, it's syllo. Syllo seems extremely confident in his shallow "scum might attempt to sabotage my party" argument and to me it feels a bit unnatural. (syllo's post I'm referring might have been made later than Adam's, I'm lazy to check this out.) But the main point is: Why doesn't Adam comment on the person he's voting, rather on the person he's NOT voting, especially when asked by phagga on his vote on sylla? This makes 0 sense to me from a town perspective. His next post on kita seems to me like the definition of scum trying to blend in: On November 23 2012 01:25 Adam4167 wrote:On November 23 2012 01:02 kitaman27 wrote:On November 22 2012 15:31 Adam4167 wrote:Kitaman, I liked what you were saying early yesterday but this post, I do not like: On November 21 2012 21:42 kitaman27 wrote:
There are quite a few people who claim to be voting for sandroba on the basis that they claim to be able to easily differentiate his scum play from his town play. The only reason I see this as the case is that he commonly gets lazy and stops caring or posting as mafia. However, that's simply due to personal choice. How many people here other than maybe syllo are confidant they can identify a scum sandro when he remains active? Having played with him in pypi (an election game), I know he is quite capable of fooling most people when there is something he wants.
I'm quite puzzled by the fact that marv hasn't run for election. As being one of the most active players recently, I think he would be fairly confident at being able to gain support for himself. As town, I know I want to be the leader because that is the only way to directly increase our chances of success. marv however appears to want to avoid the spotlight and participate in an advising role or at least gauge the support he has. Could you explain this decision?
Work time. I'll try to start identifying some town players when I get back if I'm confident enough. Why are you trying to ward people away from voting for sandroba? You are fear mongering that he 'might' be turning over a new-leaf as scum and as such, shouldn't vote for him on that basis. So far, all that you've done to indicate that you think sandroba is scum is to colour his name in red (along with syllo and marv) with no other explanation. Care to go into detail about why you think he is scum? Well it wouldn't be a new leaf. I'm saying its something I've seen before playing mafia with him. The reason that I'm bringing it up is that I don't buy into so many people voting for him because he is simply easy to read. I'm not willing to call him scum yet, but I'm willing to say he isn't in my top 10 of people to choose from. You say that you are not willing to call them scum yet, then what is the deal with this post: linkI am perplexed by this post. You go on to say further that it was 'hardly a joke campaign', so... what was the point of it? New scum, that is. I mean, isn't it kind of obvious the point of the campaign was to.. make his case on why he's a better candidate? He's pretty much echoing suspicion from hapa, only to go ahead and disappear. Pretty much fits the bill of a lurking scum.
Your case is just bad. I am not new, I have been part of this community for over a year - I took a couple months off to sort out some personal issues. I always have a lower post count then most, due to time zone conflicts and a seething hatred of people posting complete garbage in the thread, forcing me to read 15-30 page filters later in the game. The first quote of mine you've highlighted is not why i'm voting for sandroba, as you've titled it, its why im voting for syllogism. You don't seem to fully understand what it is i'm saying, as you cant seem to figure out if im voting for sandroba or syllo. I AM happy that syllo seems to be having an issue discerning solid reads because I am having that issue also, it shows that he has a similar mindset to mine and as a result, probably the same alignment. 'Why doesnt Adam comment on the person hes voting for, rather than the person hes not voting for'. I havent mentioned sandroba bar this one comment 'I agree that it looks like sandroba is phoning it in', a comment syllo made and I agree with, hence partly why he is getting my vote. In regards to my post to kita, I think it stands fine as it is. I am trying to figure out what the hell he is doing, because he claims to want to be taken seriously, but then posts a page of 'joke' reads and then campaigns as if they're perfectly acceptable. I am trying to ascertain if he is just goofing around, and I should ignore him, or if hes intentionally posting more garbage into this thread, something I think we can do without. Go back, reread the entire exchange, and try to word your case so that it actually makes sense so I can try to understand exactly what you are saying. When I made my case I thought you were new here, and your play seemed to me exactly how someone new would have played. I found the part I emphasized pretty clear though. Someone asked why you were voting for syllogism. Then you make an explanation based on other people, whilst saying nothing about syllogism. At least this was what I understood. I now see that I just misinterpreted your post. Show nested quote +I agree that it looks like sandroba is phoning it in.
He seems to be genuinely interested in figuring this game out.
I like that he is not entirely confident in his reads at this point, because I'd be less inclined to vote someone claiming to have it 'all figured out' considering what's been put into the thread in the last 24 hours.
I like that he's trying to figure out the mafia's strategy, even if I do consider that futile. I consider it more likely from a townie, rather than mafia faking it. Since I don't know what "phoning it in" means, I assumed that was something good, because later you said "he" (i.e sandroba) seems to be geuinely interested in figuring things out. Anyways, now that you have manifested yourself, do you agree with the sandroba wagon? I said earlier that I feel people would correctly identify him as scum, but when I said that I meant people who have actually played with him, not newer players who have never seen him play. For all intents and purposes, everyone on that wagon should be considered town, at least for now. I don't get why syllo's success makes sand scum. So, @Syllogism, do you think sandroba's play is him being scum? He started out pretty good imo, but his absence here is not cool at all.
Phone it in
Each one of those dot points was aimed at syllo, not sandroba, except the first one, because I was agreeing with syllogisms' view of sandroba - so the 'he' was syllogism.
Anyway, moving on. I have no issue lynching Sandroba. I've played with sandroba 3-4 times now, moreso when hes scum then when hes town. Looks like his usual 'don't-give-a-shit' scum game.
##vote sandroba
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If it is possible to clarify, if kush wasn't modkilled, he still would have died due to his ability, correct?
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On November 23 2012 09:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
If it is possible to clarify, if kush wasn't modkilled, he still would have died due to his ability, correct?
he did both. it says so.
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Depends if marv somehow took damage before night actions, I imagine.
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@Hopeless
I don't feel like giving it much research before I hear from some people.
I'm only putting LVII on reference here, because he was much more proactive in looking for scum and giving his reads. Hugeass posts. etc
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On November 23 2012 09:39 Z-BosoN wrote:
@Hopeless
I don't feel like giving it much research before I hear from some people.
I'm only putting LVII on reference here, because he was much more proactive in looking for scum and giving his reads. Hugeass posts. etc
Yeah, except he was SK in a reasonably normal setup. Its a bad benchmark for looking for town toad.
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Also for clarification: we are still in 600AD, correct?
There were some talk of portals and things in the day post, but I didn't see anything to suggest we changed positions in time. Just want to make certain though.
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EBWOP: he was an assassin, not SK but anyways
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On November 23 2012 09:31 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, am I the only one troubled that Toad is not posting relatively at all?
In LVII he was annoying as hell with huge posts, being SK (but trying to look townie), and I haven't seen him doing this here at all...
I took a two month pause from mafia because I purposly played against my wincon last game to kill myself after the end of d1 in my last game as a ragequit because of something my teammate did. It was only a Callergame, I don't think I would have done that in a normal game but that's the reason I took a pause from mafia because I was clearly to heated up and to much into the game.
I'm actively trying to keep it reasonable this time to not get to hooked up again and have it end that way.
Ask some of the people who played the most recent Caller game. I was really pissed.
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On November 23 2012 09:41 Keirathi wrote:
Also for clarification: we are still in 600AD, correct?
There were some talk of portals and things in the day post, but I didn't see anything to suggest we changed positions in time. Just want to make certain though.
Check the daypost, time is (always?) posted there
1000AD - Present Day
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On November 23 2012 09:41 Keirathi wrote:
Also for clarification: we are still in 600AD, correct?
There were some talk of portals and things in the day post, but I didn't see anything to suggest we changed positions in time. Just want to make certain though.
I'm expecting the next cycle to be a vote about where to travel.
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Oh, oops. Dunno how I missed that. I am bad.
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EPT
