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On November 26 2012 02:01 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 01:46 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 26 2012 01:38 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 01:24 risk.nuke wrote:On November 26 2012 00:36 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 00:26 risk.nuke wrote:On November 26 2012 00:22 Djodref wrote:On November 26 2012 00:19 risk.nuke wrote: Why am I like a ghost in these games. Even when I run for leader I am mostly ignored. I think it's because you are not active enough  I won't vote for you by the way, there are some people that I trust more. I understand how you feel if it can do any good to you. It doesn't do me any good, you're free to vote for whoever you want but even if you don't want to vote for me you can still comment on me for everyone's benefit. Well, I would not vote for the following reasons - The waiting game you have played yesterday with your vote on Sandro, nice way for not contributing during a lynch day
- The way you answered kitaman suspicions towards you ("scummy post from a scummy player")
- The fact that you are not active enough, I expect a party leader to have some leadership
- The fact that you take syllo and TheChronicler in your team. Dieno and Oats is better than syllo and Oats. TheChronicler is meh....
I have been active and don't get into sementics, would you had approved if I had said. I'm not going to take my vote of the scummiest player just because he's avoiding the thread. Kitaman had done squat all game which is more then enough to justify the title of scummy behaviour when he showed up with a pisspoor case against me. As I said I don't think Dia is a good addition to the team. Do you believe there are no repercussions to prevent town from beating the game using claims? And in addition to that he's lost the majority of his hp. Hypothetically what if a condition is if a teammember has less then x hp the mission will fail, or maybe it will fail and kill him. Syllo is by far better then both oats and dia, I've considered keith being better then oats aswell. And chronicler is very likely town. He's the one who copchecked toad so unless you think scum is trading 1for1 you shouldn't doubt him. @risk.nukeYou have not been as active as marv for example. I would have liked if you have participated more in the scum hunt during D2. Toad was not so difficult to find for example... (Correct me if I'm wrong but I assumed that you were familiar Toad here) Ok, fair enough. Ok, that's speculating. I have more faith in a town Dieno than in a town syllo, and that's all what matters for me. Anyway, if we present 4 town members, the event is going to succeed for sure I guess. Easy enough imho... What do you mean by "better" ? I'm only caring about the fact that they are more confirmed town. TheChronicler could have bussed Toad with a fake cope claim. The only thing that indicates a town TheChronicler is this copeclaim... you think acro faked his copclaim as well? Acro claimed 1-shot cop on a person who had just been busted by another cop claim. I think it's very convenient.
09:30 - Flip 09:51 - Acro's first post after flip 10:32 - TC's roleclaim and his first post after flip 13:20 - Acro's roleclaim
Why would anyone believe Acro? the only interesting thing is he gave us an actual role name but if I was scum in that situation I would know to throw toad under the bus.
Doing it after TC's role claim was pointless. If you get a red flip you claim ASAP 1-1 trades are always good for town. No exceptions. Acro's claim SHOULD have been before TC's if it was real.
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So we're ignoring my Acro thing...ok...
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On November 26 2012 13:35 Acrofales wrote: Actually, that's not fair. I wrote a long response explaining myself, but then I got angry with you, deleted it and kept reading the thread, bumped upon your followup and decided you were an idiot.
ok so you won't mind if I ignore all your posts from now on and kill you tonight. Good to know.
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On November 26 2012 13:45 Oatsmaster wrote: Cave, dont be petty. If you think that acro is scum, make a case. I don't need to anymore. There was no town reason to do what he did and he just ignores it. Simple and clean kill in my opinion.
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On November 26 2012 13:52 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 13:48 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 13:45 Oatsmaster wrote: Cave, dont be petty. If you think that acro is scum, make a case. I don't need to anymore. There was no town reason to do what he did and he just ignores it. Simple and clean kill in my opinion. Fine. I thought I'd claim immediately. Then realized there wasn't a lynch. Why bother throwing that info out unless there IS a lynch (and it therefore helps town), or Toad is fucking with people's minds (and claming therefore helps town). I know you are the king of roleclaims, but I prefer to not throw all my info in the table and then whine every cycle that people will shoot me.
Still no reason to throw your role claim out after TC's. 2-1 trade isn't nearly as nice as the 1-1 trade would have been. Sure it must of been annoying to not have any use on your 1 shot ability but thats Mafia. You could of lit up a scum target for every vigilante and role blocker but instead only did so after it was meaningless.
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On November 26 2012 14:05 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 13:56 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 13:52 Acrofales wrote:On November 26 2012 13:48 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 13:45 Oatsmaster wrote: Cave, dont be petty. If you think that acro is scum, make a case. I don't need to anymore. There was no town reason to do what he did and he just ignores it. Simple and clean kill in my opinion. Fine. I thought I'd claim immediately. Then realized there wasn't a lynch. Why bother throwing that info out unless there IS a lynch (and it therefore helps town), or Toad is fucking with people's minds (and claming therefore helps town). I know you are the king of roleclaims, but I prefer to not throw all my info in the table and then whine every cycle that people will shoot me. Still no reason to throw your role claim out after TC's. 2-1 trade isn't nearly as nice as the 1-1 trade would have been. Sure it must of been annoying to not have any use on your 1 shot ability but thats Mafia. You could of lit up a scum target for every vigilante and role blocker but instead only did so after it was meaningless. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Also, you're not thinking straight. My info helps nail Toad, you agree? If it helps nail Toad and he flips scum, which I 100% think it does, then you can make the claim that my roleclaim is not alignment indicative as I might have been bussing. Go ahead and do that, but how the flying fuck does this suddenly make it a 2 for 1 trade for town? If Toad flips and he's town, then it's a 2 for 1 trade in favour of town. So.. yeah, that would make me the greatest derp in the history of herpaderps. In closing: you're an idiot.
Toad was already nailed by TC's claim. If you are town then you and TC will be shot by scum for your silliness.
If toad flips town he will have been framed and more than likely TC would be lynched before you allowing you to hide behind the shield of "OH NO HE WAS FRAMED!" as a "confirmed" town. True enough TC could possibly do the same but I find that less likely with regards to how he actually claimed.
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I agree with co-ordination on targets. Never actually out what you are doing to said targets but having only 2 targets per night will probably guarantee success.
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On November 26 2012 14:18 Oatsmaster wrote: I think that consolidating night actions as town isnt good because it allows scum to use protective stuff on those people, which I think that they must have.
There are some roles that get around stuff like that. Also Acro I just hate the roleclaim and I don't want you to hide behind a confirmed town status as a result of it.
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On November 27 2012 00:01 Acrofales wrote: Imho Iamperfection is still by far the scummiest lurkers out of the lurking lot. Maybe Drazerk, but I'm biased because since HRM it is my mission in any mafia game to kill Drazerk.
I can tell... Notice how even SnB hasn't acted against me?
I thought I'd bring it up to you since you know our relationship a little too well
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On November 27 2012 16:25 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 15:28 syllogism wrote: Wait, Prom now says his ability only roleblocks the first person who targets the player he targets and it doesn't block mafia KP? just popping in but no. It roleblocks everyone who targets my target and it does not block mafia kp. The confusion you are having is when I used 'first' to differentiate the target from the targeter. My ability is used on one dude. All the other dudes who target that dude get RB'd. Factional kp can still target that dude. Sorry for the confusion.
So scum have factional KP... good to know.
Also I took 201 damage and were roleblocked because you guys are meanies..It wasn't as if I was going to EMP blast Toad or anything...
Good to know I'm rated higher than the 99% scum though.
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On November 27 2012 16:48 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 16:40 syllogism wrote: Prom why did you only take 25 damage when I hit you for 75? nothing to do with my role. Someone must have protected me. .
25 is becoming a theme. Bus toll?
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On November 27 2012 16:45 syllogism wrote: Djodref why are you answering for him?
Actually you know what, I'm done for a few days. There are no active town aligned players left in the game who make even a modicum amount of sense. It's not like we can lynch these people anytime soon and the game is going to take forever given that we are still only in 2300 AD.
Why did you have to be mafia sandro
12000BC next where Lavos is
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On November 28 2012 15:08 syllogism wrote: Cavejohnson still waiting for you to tell me why you asked if I received a seed Play the god damn game or at least google T_T
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What did you even think I could possibly want it for lol
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The seed would of guaranteed a victory for any mission in this time period. Its probably the most important item in the game especially in this time hence I asked if it was the item.
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On November 28 2012 18:28 syllogism wrote: Thanks, that is actually helpful. Do you have any idea what Acro's role is, based on your role?
It sounds like a clone of mine just with supportive abilities rather than offensive abilities I know mine is balanced VIA my HP so I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't take much to kill Acro if you want to remove him from the game.
Also no idea where the 1 came from probably a fizzled attack or something.
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On November 28 2012 21:34 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 20:59 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 28 2012 18:28 syllogism wrote: Thanks, that is actually helpful. Do you have any idea what Acro's role is, based on your role? It sounds like a clone of mine you claiming third party?
Sadly I'm town.
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Its far too soon to be Lavos... Although it could be the ocean palace Lavos fight which is essentially unwinnable.
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Lynching toad is a wasted cycle
Wasted cycle = horrific for town
Even in a game as crazy as this that is still the case
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On November 29 2012 03:46 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 03:43 CaveJohnson wrote: Lynching toad is a wasted cycle
Wasted cycle = horrific for town
Even in a game as crazy as this that is still the case Killing a 99.9% scum guaranteed is bad for town?
Through a lynch? Yes
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