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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Clarity is scum because posting a lot makes it seem like he is involved in the game but he isnt actually posting an opinion on anything. All he has done is criticize Deni and Chronicler and ask questions that really are not important. @Clarity, why does Djo's assumption that the party members are not disclosed have anything to do with the game? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On November 21 2012 23:09 Clarity_nl wrote: Oats, why do you assume people have a town read on me at all, let alone for activity? Why did you announce to me that you were making a case, instead of just making it? Do you actually believe I've tunneled Djo? Good I like answering questions :D What I meant by makes people think is that the quick impression of someone posting a lot is indicative of town because scum like to stay out of the spotlight if there are other people taking the heat. I announced that I was making a case in order to see your reaction. Why does it matter whether I announced or not? its not like I didnt deliver. Tunneling is the wrong word. Attacking is a better word I think I believe that after the co-host revealed information, you hopped on Djo and asked him irrelevant questions, again, in order to look townie. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Do you believe that posting one liners is scummy? Did my reaction strengthen or weaken your read on me? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On November 21 2012 23:22 Clarity_nl wrote: I asked the question to djo after the host answered because Djo asked me to hold off until we had more info from the host. Do you believe that posting one liners is scummy? Did my reaction strengthen or weaken your read on me? Your reaction didnt change my read. I believe that posting 1 liners that purely say OMGUS is scummy | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
On November 21 2012 22:52 Oatsmaster wrote: WHY I THINK CLARITY IS SCUM He justs posts 1-line comments throughout the whole chronicler incident.. the activity makes people think he is town but he doesnt actually take a stand, just criticized chronicler. Agrees with Hapa, and basically repeats what he and everyone else before said to sound like he is contributing. Then with the Dienosore stuff, he again posts 1 liner’s criticizing deinosore.. The last post with the Diensore actually being stupid, Clarity is asking for advice from town, no willing to take a stand on his own. Keeps tunneling Diensore, an obvious target long after people stopped caring. Tunneling Djo on a minor issue about his assumptions. THIS IS WHY I THINK THAT CLARITY IS SCUM He does that as town on day 1. He just asks questions doesn't take positions. Null tell in my opinion | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On November 21 2012 20:45 Acrofales wrote: Not reading the thread already? I was under the impression (and still expect it to be a very real possibility), that a successful mission will give the party members benefits (items, mason chat, a level up, whatever) that will help us root out mafia and/or directly aid us in fighting Lavos. The best players in the game are naturally the best equipped to use such perks. That is, if they're town. Sandro brought up a good counterargument, and making scum choose between shooting likely party members and shooting experienced town players is a good policy. On that note, @Sandro: you have not explained why this policy is pretty much the complete opposite of your proposal in Holy Roman, where you (a veteran and likely target for scum kp) wanted yourself as emperor (and thus a likely target for scum kp) precisely because you are an experienced player. On a similar note, if we follow that logic through, Sandro should not be party leader. No I read your arguments, but they sounded inadequate and non thought through. What really rubbed me the wrong way was your disregard for individual alignment amongst your list. Right now I feel you didn't care, you just wanted an elite team to go under the pretext that they would be best equipped. You purposefully ignored or didn't consider the risks of a team like that and I really don't like that. On November 21 2012 21:09 syllogism wrote: I think his reasoning is weak and your subsequent posts in which you attract more attention towards the fact that someone thinks you are mafia are fairly towny. I do not like your marv or no "vet" as a leader strategy at all, however. Perhaps I'm reading too much into this as being transparent when justifying your party leader vote is good, but this seems overly explanatory. I don't understand what's the point of mentioning that you were going to propose yourself nor why there was a need to mention marv at all (as a side note, I'm surprised that you hold him in this high regard; it's not something I'm used to hearing from you). One motive for saying that you intended to propose yourself could be that townies are "expected" to nominate themselves. The focus of the post is less on what Sandroba has done in this game and more on his general strengths. I'm used to a more direct risk nuke. I agree with your suspicions on acrofales, however. Well the reason I said I would had proposed myself was because if I had been here when the game had started I would had. When I first saw the day1 post I wanted to nominate myself but I decided I'd read through the whole thread first and when I had It no longer seemed viable. It was just part of my thought process. As for Marv, Marv is a player who've lately impressed me with his scumhuntingskills. However that wasn't the reason I mentioned him. The reason I brought him up is a lot of the players in this game does not know you or sandroba. To them Marv is more real then you which I felt caused a very biased support for him amongst the newer players. Which is also entwined with why I gave pretty detailed reasoning about Sandroba. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Marv, goodkarma, other people who were in this thread a moment ago. I would like your opinons on this case? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 21 2012 23:27 iamperfection wrote: also its a null tell because he is well aware of it now. Aren't we clarity? I like my day 1 play, I see no reason to change it. Marv and zbo both had town reads on me last game. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On November 21 2012 23:29 Clarity_nl wrote: I like my day 1 play, I see no reason to change it. Marv and zbo both had town reads on me last game. I really do not think that your day 1 play in this game is helpful to town.. It may result in town reads but if it doesnt help town, its useless if you get killed early | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
On November 21 2012 23:31 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont like using meta reads because it could be inaccurate.. It also rely's a lot on experience of the game which I dont have. im just providing an alternative explanation i dont think you can say Clarity is definitely scum regarding his actions so far. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 21 2012 23:29 Clarity_nl wrote: I like my day 1 play, I see no reason to change it. Marv and zbo both had town reads on me last game. Indeed, you were pretty clearly town. For my read on you I'm waiting to see how constructive you are this cycle. So far, not so much. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 21 2012 23:29 Oatsmaster wrote: LOL why would you say that the case is good? Marv, goodkarma, other people who were in this thread a moment ago. I would like your opinons on this case? I think that Clarity is looking like its usual townie self... I thought that you were following the Mario game. Clarity was town in this game and his D1 play was just the same as it is right now. So, I would wait for him to produce more serious contributions before looking further on him. Slight town read on him for the moment. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
i should be on the team right. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 21 2012 23:34 iamperfection wrote: @ marv i should be on the team right. you sure do love fishing for people's opinions on your alignment  I'd say you were probably town at the moment, but I'm not certain yet. | ||
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