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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 12:18 GMT
#5606
On December 02 2012 21:04 syllogism wrote:
Cliff notes version: Djodref is mafia


Eh, I think it's town djo being overzealous, he does that. The protection would also seem like a weird ability for scum.
I heard no objections from anyone when I gave him a townread and when he said him and Dieno should be on the party.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 12:19 GMT
#5608
On December 02 2012 21:17 syllogism wrote:
Prom why did Clarity take damage despite the seed shield?


I think the most logical answer is that the damage shown includes the 100 damage done to the shield.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 12:23 GMT
#5612
On December 02 2012 21:20 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 21:18 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 02 2012 21:04 syllogism wrote:
Cliff notes version: Djodref is mafia


Eh, I think it's town djo being overzealous, he does that. The protection would also seem like a weird ability for scum.
I heard no objections from anyone when I gave him a townread and when he said him and Dieno should be on the party.

I've been thinking about the setup and mafia must have either healing or protection roles, otherwise it's too easy for confirmed townies to get out of control. It's also weird that Dieno was hit for the second time even though Djodref claimed that he would keep him alive again. Also, why isn't mafia attempting to get rid of Djodref?


I understand that, but a "saved from death" every night?
I think the way djo's ability works (although he hasn't said it) is that it prevents him from taking lethal damage, not damage in general. What do you mean by "second time"? I believe the damage he took was because of failing the mission because of the random party (and the last damage that killed him was mission based). Damage based on missions is not from night actions, it happens before and cannot be prevented.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 12:24 GMT
#5614
On December 02 2012 21:22 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 21:19 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 02 2012 21:17 syllogism wrote:
Prom why did Clarity take damage despite the seed shield?


I think the most logical answer is that the damage shown includes the 100 damage done to the shield.

Is it? But Djodref claims taking only 100 and he also "forgot" to claim it initially. Doesn't that seem a lot of damage anyway from an event?


I took 200 from the event.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 12:24 GMT
#5615
Ehhh, that's wrong I just re-checked. I took 125
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 12:27 GMT
#5619
The counter claim would have happened already. I was under the impression syllo thinks he's mafia even as he was protecting dieno.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 12:29 GMT
#5621
I want to re-iterate this since you guys didn't seem to understand it:
On December 02 2012 21:19 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 21:17 syllogism wrote:
Prom why did Clarity take damage despite the seed shield?


I think the most logical answer is that the damage shown includes the 100 damage done to the shield.


So if I'm 400 hp (pulled out of my ass) and have a 200 hp shield, and take 125 damage, I get the notification that I took 125 damage.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 15:35 GMT
#5687
On December 03 2012 00:34 syllogism wrote:
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On December 03 2012 00:16 iamperfection wrote:
Also I have been trying to get on team does that make me scum sylo?

You haven't made nonsensical excuses as to why you should be included and haven't played down other potential candidates for reasons that also apply to yourself.


Djo's reasoning makes sense to me. He felt he was a target and being on the party made it more likely he would be protected, you disagree?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 16:03 GMT
#5701
On December 03 2012 00:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Just saying, I didnt get a heal the whole game
also syllo, you should totes claim so you can get the benefit of the 250 visible damage and the 300 invisible raise on your hp


You should have been healed last resolution period and I'm still not sure why you weren't, some kind of disruptive ability seems likely.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 16:09 GMT
#5704
Seriously I have spammed greymist with all kinds of questions about my abilities and mechanics, you're saying you just assumed that raising max hp equals raising current hp by the same amount?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 17:48 GMT
#5718
I think it's safe to say if oats djo and myself all live through this cycle and we fail the mission djo is to blame, but if we don't fail the mission he is confirmed town.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 18:09 GMT
#5720
On December 03 2012 03:07 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 02:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think it's safe to say if oats djo and myself all live through this cycle and we fail the mission djo is to blame, but if we don't fail the mission he is confirmed town.

How do you know that the failure isn't just due to Dieno dying and has no bearing on Djo's alignment?


I don't know. But if we fail with the three of us alive I will find it hard to believe that it's because there are only 3 townies instead of 4.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 18:14 GMT
#5721
My point was mainly to say that if we succeed djo is confirmed town, rather than if we fail djo is confirmed scum. I'll be extremely suspicious of him if we fail though. My phrasing was off.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 21:18 GMT
#5731
On December 03 2012 06:15 kitaman27 wrote:
S&B's role description sounds like the standard, "punish the town for roleclaiming" role that needs to be in this game based on the fact that roleclaims are so powerful in this setup.


Agreed, I see no upside for town. I doubt greymist expected the entire town to mass heal a single person as snb pumps up their hp. More likely is that he has a 250 damage nuke that only works on people who claimed their role name.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 21:35 GMT
#5734
On December 03 2012 06:33 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 06:28 austinmcc wrote:
SnB
Leaning scum. Mainly based on the roleclaim, because ... that's the thing I most have to work with. Forget the rolenaming. Forget his other stupid ability that he claimed. He says:
My main ability is Secrets of the Nu, which is the 250 damage/+300 max hp ability


(1) SnB says he never asked Grey how this works. Other people seem to be expressing concern that he equated +max HP with "heal" without checking with Grey. Yes, that's questionable.

But beyond that...SnB isn't an idiot. If that were actually SnB's ability, he would absolutely have to check with Grey, because...it frigging does 250 damage. The way it's phrased, you can't tell how the parts resolve. Does it do 250 damage to someone, and then, if they're alive, heal them/raise hp? EVEN IF SnB thought +max hp = heal, he has to ask whether he can accidentally kill someone before raising their hp. That's...crazy important. I can believe that he interpreted +max HP to be heal, but I can't believe he wouldn't ask whether both happen at once or whether he basically CPR docs someone if they're under 250 hp.


(2) The wording. Grey likes flavor. Grey likes...complex roles that punish gaming the setup (roleclaims, ability claims, whatever). But Grey doesn't create stupid roles.

The text of that ability just makes no sense, see (1). If it heals, it should just say "Raise targets max hp 300, heal them for 50." Ta da. It's simple. You can't misinterpret it. Your doc can't kill someone now. Gut feeling, I don't think Grey would create a role that mixed damage/possible heal for no good reason. It's much more likely that SnB has a similar ability, now has to try and find a logical fakeclaim, and so the wording comes out really garbled.



Out of his filter...I don't get too much. But he's only been vocal about a couple topics. His posts are generally pretty small, but perk up on three/four topics.

The party election D1
Hapahauli
(Maybe toad)
Phagga

There's one big toad post where he votes toad, although from the looks of it toad was caught by a check. So...scumSnB would have had to do that. But he perks up towards the end of the vote D1, and we know that at least one candidate, Sandroba, was scum. So on two of the topics he's been...more wordy about, scum has been involved.

I dunno about ALL of SnB's longer posts being about scum, but I could see Hapa or Phagga being scum just based on the way SnB has posted less when scum wasn't concerned. Maybe one a mislynch candidate, one a scumbuddy? I'll give them a look.


i already said that i clarified my ability with greymist, it raises someone's max health but does damage to their current health, and raising max health doesn't change current health.


Yeah, in cycle 6 you asked, after prompting by others.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 22:14 GMT
#5745
On December 03 2012 07:12 TheChronicler wrote:
What's to post about? I didn't get rolled back.


You made a pretty bad argument for it and the day after (the day I would have rolled you back) you never showed up.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 22:17 GMT
#5747
You can tell me you didn't want to post at all.
You can tell me you wanted to get rolled back.

You can't tell me both, that's just absurd.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 22:21 GMT
#5749
On November 30 2012 03:07 TheChronicler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 03:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 30 2012 02:59 TheChronicler wrote:
On November 30 2012 02:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
Okay, TC. You mentioned you used your 1 shot last cycle but it didn't do anything because you weren't on the party.
Is there any way you can tell us what your 1-shot is? Also note that the heal you received will not have happened, you will take damage equal to the heal.

Wait the rollback wouldn't act as a protection?


The rollback is a rollback. The way you were 48 hours ago (1 full cycle). So the hp you had, the abilities you had, the items etc you had. So any heal that happened in the last 48 hours will be reversed.

I think it's worth it.


Ya, real convincing.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 22:32 GMT
#5754
On December 03 2012 07:29 TheChronicler wrote:
Claim and get shot, or say it's good. Either way you have to trust me on it. One way gets me shot, one doesn't. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Yeah because me rolling you back won't get you shot either way. Did you even listen when I said I have to announce when I use it?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 22:33 GMT
#5755
I'm done talking to you TC, go be bitter and whiny somewhere else.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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