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On November 28 2012 05:47 Dienosore wrote: Are you not scared of getting roleblocked yourself, especially now after that silly claim? my options were to be RB'd every day by Syllo or claim and be RB'd every day by scum. I much prefer that the RB on me comes form confirmed scum. I assume that all of my active abilities will be RB'd for the rest of this game, yes. | ||
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On November 28 2012 05:55 Acrofales wrote: Why does this force mafia to claim roleblocks? I am not the only player who roleblocks (as evidenced by Risk gettin RB'd n2) this means that if anyone does not claim RB but were roleblocked by not me we will know that they are scum because the only reason to not claim a rb is to hide the target of their night ability. | ||
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On November 28 2012 06:09 Dienosore wrote: Fuck, I keep forgetting Oats can't be in it... I remember now that I said TheChronicler earlier, but honestly I'm open to all suggestions. well stop being open to suggestions. Scum must have some influence on this game. Get your butt in gear and make one town read on your own. | ||
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On November 28 2012 06:25 Dienosore wrote: Unless I hear the majority of people telling me to change my vote, I have chosen TheChronicler based on my town read. Why are you insisting that scum must have some influence? Are you perhaps threatened by the fact that you don't think your viewpoints aren't being heard or agreed on by the general populace? Enough so, that it makes you want to reinforce to the admitted new guy that scum are constantly lurking around, so you can verify to yourself that what you are doing is actually working? You should really stop making your anger at me because I just wont fucking die so obvious. I'm not even being angry bro. Not at you. But it is bad play as a town leader to ask the thread who to take with you. | ||
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On November 28 2012 17:39 syllogism wrote: Drazerk you are completely worthless as always I've decided for now that Prom's claim is plausible, even if the timing, execution and subsequent behavior are suspicious. The initial claim was compeltely ridiculous and anyone who believed such a role is likely to be in the game is naive. What he claimed at first was a role that could not only make a person completely invulnerable, but it also functioned as a semi-watcher role; a player of any alignment that gets roleblocked wouldn't know the source and would be forced to claim. Now that we know roleblock does not prevent factional KP (and I consider it likely that there is non-role based mafia factional KP) and that he can't always use it every cycle, it is more believable. Moreover, the claim is a bit too complicated and too easily veribiable to be a sane mafia claim (his sanity is still in question, however). The fact he initially refused to claim his other ability or flavor and decided to attack and suspect a near confirmed town still doesn't make sense. I was also suspicious of sandroba immediately confirming that he visited me, instead of showing skepticism towards Prom's claim. yeah, if you want to know about how I safe claim as mafia I BC'd vet in my only late game scum game. I play it safe as scum. My role is a semi-watcher role and I plan on continuing to use it that way in the future. Claiming the other abilities and flavour just didn't benefit town in any way. I don't see why you think that is wierd and I'll attack anyone who seems scummy to me. I don't really care how close to confirmed town you are; you aren't confirmed and I believe you would play this out exactly the same as scum. The fact that no one else agrees with my paranoia means that I don't have to care and neither do you since nothing will come of it. On November 28 2012 10:23 goodkarma wrote: @VE: How the hell was I supposed to know you were actually coming back to post more than one-liners? Saying and doing are two very different things... Now that you've decided to show up, yeah. Let's not shoot you. Cave and Adam are people I stand by vigi shooting though. I don't care about the other stuff you were saying (though some of it was scummy) but this is scummy as shit. We should be shooting the confirmed scum since we have no idea about lynches. Kill Toad. | ||
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On November 29 2012 02:39 goodkarma wrote: In the case of CaveJohnson: This is a guy who has not contributed in this game, but maintains some degree of activity by prolifically spamming chat with substanceless one-liners. He fakeclaims abilities, and in general is anti-town. From my understanding from what others have said, he does this as both town and scum. I have in my notes two quotes that I found especially troubling: "Syllo has taken himself out of the running and we should respect that.": Scum-motivated for obvious reasons. "my intention is to survive to endgame...": Town should not be worried about this... Regarding Adam: His posts come off as more "pro-town," but looking at what substance his comments bring the main thing I got was that he is pre-occupied tunneling Z-Boson for making a poor case on him. And from what I've seen his activity is not going to pick up ever. He is far in second place compared to CaveJohnson for a good vigi target, but still is in the back of my mind as a potential scum trying to blend in. However, while we're on this topic it would be very helpful if Adam (or someone else) could provide some links to some of his games. I don't know Adam's meta, so having some insight into it could be helpful in getting a better read on him. On Adam you can check the recently ended WLIIA mafia for his town meta. You are pointing at two well known null players. Adam always lurks and Draz always always always does weird shit. Why do you want our viggies not hitting confirmed scum? | ||
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if we don't get a lynch though we need to start that focus fire earlier. How confidant are you that we will get a lynch? (hint: I'm not at all) | ||
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On November 29 2012 02:59 goodkarma wrote: From the damage reports, I'm under the impression town has roughly 150 damage / turn at its disposal. From the flips, however, 600 HP seems to be a reasonable assumption for the amount of HP Toad has. (Following the mechanics of the actual game, I'd say he can't have any more than 999.) As such, I'd expect it to take at least 3-4 turns to kill him. And I strongly believe we'll have a chance to lynch within 1-2 turns. so what is mafia kp? Wanna share the things you know? | ||
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On November 29 2012 03:11 Clarity_nl wrote: Just know that scum killed marv in a single night when he had 550 hp. Could have been third party too, but true enough. >550 is a safe bet. On November 29 2012 03:43 CaveJohnson wrote: Lynching toad is a wasted cycle Wasted cycle = horrific for town Even in a game as crazy as this that is still the case that is true as well. Though, if we get the chance to lynch, Toad needs to be chopped. (Toad: thanks for not pulling a Hapa/Marv from LC, you are winning the sportsmanship award). Acro: do you really think votes from Toad's scum buddies would do him any good? That seems pretty illogical to me but I don't know GreY as well as some. I guess we'll see with the flip. Iamp: you asked about Healing/Protecting party members. You should feel free to do so, my prot will be on one of them but there are others who will need to be saved. Additionally there are other townies who could need healing/protecting too. I'm really worried about this new move from GK, his reads and stances are not consistent, as Adam pointed out just recently. I'll give him[GK] a filter dive tonight and see what I think more specifically though. | ||
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On November 29 2012 07:39 Acrofales wrote: I guess I can switch my vote to Dino. After all, all the townies are doing it. Maybe he'll even get Masamune. ##unvote ##vote Dienosore Can you explain your motivation for doing this? Every party leader elected has had your vote, role related? Dieno I hate you. All roleblocks please claim. Okay, so GK is probably scum though unfortunately Acro's presence in the party takes away the certainty we would have otherwise. I am, as I said earlier on a filter dive of GK. As it stands I think we need to lynch Toad no matter how much we hit him for already. Unless we can prove that someone else is 100% scum in which case we should lynch them and NK Toad. For now: ## Vote: Toad | ||
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On November 29 2012 09:17 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah odds are GK is scum. Acro do you know what kind of influence you have on mission success rates? read the thread. Don't ask questions you don't need to ask. | ||
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[QUOTE]On November 29 2012 09:18 Promethelax wrote: [QUOTE]On November 29 2012 09:17 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah odds are GK is scum. Acro do you know what kind of influence you have on mission success rates?[/QUOTE] read the thread. Don't ask questions you don't need to ask. [/QUOTE] I don't recall acro saying anything related to this but I guess..... fair enough By the way, "hidden lynch" is code for "cba doing votecounts" isn't it?[/QUOTE] It essentially means that there is a scum/3p (I guess it could be town but that seems unlikely) player with vote stealing/changing mechanic; or the game itself has some vote changing abilities. Having everyone vote Toad though makes this a much less painful option for town than it would normally be. We'll get the lynch we want, which is what is important, but probably won't get any info from it. | ||
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On November 29 2012 09:23 Promethelax wrote: It essentially means that there is a scum/3p (I guess it could be town but that seems unlikely) player with vote stealing/changing mechanic; or the game itself has some vote changing abilities. Having everyone vote Toad though makes this a much less painful option for town than it would normally be. We'll get the lynch we want, which is what is important, but probably won't get any info from it. cocked that one up, how about now? And yeah, Acro said that GreY refused to tell him what his impact would be but that it was a hidden modifier. | ||
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On November 29 2012 09:26 Dienosore wrote: I really am ashamed for not officially sending in the party, but at least Keir still made it in there some how. And now we have extra info about phagga and GK Ty for the save, Djo. I still took a whopping 475 dmg though. what did yo help us learn about phagga by making a huge mistake? | ||
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funny but not useful. Kita, ideas please. How does this effect your reads on Dieno/Acro/GK/Kier? Dieno: the answer to this tremendous fuck up is to 1) get over it and 2) play the game. You fucked up, now make up for it. | ||
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