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On December 01 2012 06:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
I understand what you were saying when it came to the assumption, I just wanted to clarify.
The way you said it seemed liked "No, my thing isn't an assumption, yours is! Because mine is more likely"
In your line of thinking, the first two cycles are pretty damning for hapa (due to process of elimination, there has to be a scum "out there") but how do you feel about his play for the last week? He's not even suggesting he should be on the party.
He wanted to be party leader just LAST CYCLE.
On November 27 2012 10:06 Hapahauli wrote:
I would like to run for party leader
My party will be Dienosaur, Kei, and either Chronicler or Acro
If you for whatever reason do not feel safe with Chronicler/Acro, I can add Oatsmaster in that slot.
Why you can trust me
I think the parties I proposed above are as near confirmed town as we can get in this situation. Given this player pool, you can trust me. Why? Because if we failed the mission, I would be holding a neon-sign saying "LYNCH ME." This is suicidal for me to do as scum.
Remember?
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On December 01 2012 06:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
I actually did not remember that. Dunno how I read over that twice.
How do you feel about his "if we fail it's obviously me and I'd never do this as scum"?
It's a bullshit argument because we have no idea how many lynches we will get before the end of the game, and we already had two red checks at the time that had to be taken care of (ofc, that was before Acro claimed 3p).
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Actually, Toad claiming the damage is a pretty big thing that I didn't notice.
Too many things not adding up with Hapa. I think it's pretty likely that he is scum at this point.
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One thing that has been bothering me, though: why the fuck isn't syllo dead yet? Or even taking any damage?
I can't imagine a scumteam, after having lost the day 1 election and then lost sandro day 2, to allow a town syllo with a ton of town cred to still be alive.
I'm not really sure what to make of it, though. Maybe they just haven't thought he was a threat because he hasn't been very active? I can't convince myself that he's scum, because of the day 1 party, but it doesn't make much sense.
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Something else, though: would GreyMisT have made sandro, Toad, AND syllo scum, with Acro 3p? That would be a pretty stacked non-town. It's possible, since the game hasn't really relied on lynching very much, and scum is inherently at a disadvantage when the game revolves around town reads, but I'm not sure that its likely.
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On December 01 2012 07:33 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 07:30 Keirathi wrote:
Something else, though: would GreyMisT have made sandro, Toad, AND syllo scum, with Acro 3p? That would be a pretty stacked non-town. It's possible, since the game hasn't really relied on lynching very much, and scum is inherently at a disadvantage when the game revolves around town reads, but I'm not sure that its likely. May I ask, since you've hosted games. You use an rng of some kind I presume, do you ever get a roll where you go "no that's stupid" and re-roll?
Yes.
But, I use an algorithm to roll c9++ games. It would be much harder for something like this where every person is some kind of power role, and you would most likely have to do it by hand. You *COULD* fully random it, but it would probably take multiple tries to get something that seemed fair for both sides.
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On December 01 2012 07:39 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 06:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
His anger makes much more sense if he is scum who "got caught" by mechanics, that might be why it felt genuine. Yes. Being scum is the only possible way I could be angry about this. I'm not just a really fucking frustrated townie. That's inconceivable.
He worded it poorly, but he has a point. It makes exactly as much sense from scum as it does from a townie. That is, it would be genuine either way, and therefor a null tell.
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GLHF see you guys in an hour
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On December 01 2012 09:04 Clarity_nl wrote:
Further information redacted from Toad's role pm is interesting
It was probably the QT link and team members.
On December 01 2012 09:06 CaveJohnson wrote:
Why would scum ever summon lavos early...
Because scum's goal is to kill ALL townies, and it doesn't appear to matter how many scum are alive at that point. Presumably, Lavos would assist with that.
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On December 01 2012 09:30 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 09:25 Hapahauli wrote:
I was roleblocked last night. Does any townie want to claim it, or was it a scum RB?
Also, there apparently was some host error regarding my Cycle 3 PM. I received a PM stating I took 50 damage, as opposed to a PM stating that I took no damage and got healed. Hopefully I can get one of the hosts to confirm this. But it's all a bit shellshocking considering I've been arguing about this damn thing for daaaaaaaaaays. So no I can't get this confirmed apparently since it's an outside-the-game factor. However, I hope atleast that the 100 damage I received from Toad helps corroborate my story, given that it fits with the ability
What the hell. That's literally bullshit if you were sent the wrong PM that is 100% cause for a lynch but the host won't admit it to the thread. Without host confirmation, I would still want to lynch you because what other option do you have besides lying?
Did Hapa receive the wrong PM cycle 3?
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I like Acro's idea for taking the sword rather than using Tech Attack. We may need the MP during the second part of the fight.
Don't really have an idea for what would be best for Flea though.
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Why is everyone content to spend the last bit of MP on a tech attack vs Slash? What if we need that MP for the second part of the day (since the first part apparently only lasts 24 hours)?
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What gives you the impression that you cannot die?
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Syllo did you RB+track Hapa last night?
He claims he was roleblocked and you're the only roleblocker that has claimed.
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I fail to see how its a good idea to inflict 250 damage to someone with the benefit of increasing their max HP by 300. Like if I was town and I had that power, I would never use it.
Say someone has 450 HP. You knock them down to 200, but their max HP is 750 now. I just don't see how that's beneficial at all, when all of the claimed heals are much MUCH less than that (even if VE is telling the truth about +25% heal, that's still less heal than your damage).
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A guy in this game is making a relationship map every day.
That was...day 2 I think?
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On December 03 2012 02:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think it's safe to say if oats djo and myself all live through this cycle and we fail the mission djo is to blame, but if we don't fail the mission he is confirmed town.
How do you know that the failure isn't just due to Dieno dying and has no bearing on Djo's alignment?
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I have no idea what to pick in situations like this since I've never played the game, so I am mostly just following popular opinion.
Avoiding traps makes sense, and healing makes sense.
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