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@djo
I don't think I defended anything against clarity that I didn't think was complete bs (mostly based on the fact that if it was directed towards me, it would have been absolutely wrong, and a lot of your arguments about VT this and VT that could have been pointed towards me instead, for example saying that a VT would have definitely told everyone about the info they got from marv, which I had but did not do). Hell, I don't remember defending him against anyone else but you, because all your arguments pissed me off =P
I do think I was confirmation biased for clarity but you really helped push that TBH. Every argument I defended clarity against made me think he was more and more town and you were more and more scum.
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Rad - Rather than go into your comments to Djo just now, I'll just swap topics slightly;
Are you down with a Sylv lynch tomorrow? Because I'm pretty sure that's the game plan atm. The alternative is you, afaik.
On November 08 2012 11:50 Rad wrote:I did reconsider. I had to throw out all my thoughts about him being VT, but like I said, there was a moment during the cheese chaos that I thought he might be blue. Also, scum clarity NOT at least attempting to ride on my VT story didn't make sense to me. The cop claim was like... what, why would he do that? Is he really cop? So, I held a little hope that he would flip blue and was spending my time thinking about who was the scum if he did (was thinking you and obzy).
Why in the world would you ever hope that somebody flipped blue, if you are town? That very nearly makes me want to vote you first, but I think you just misspoke, rather than it being a scumslip. I think that the depth of your backing of Clarity would be too... Hmmm. I don't think it would make a lot of sense as scum. It's certainly possible, but I'd prefer a Sylv lynch tomorrow.
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On November 08 2012 12:43 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 12:50 sylverfyre wrote:On November 05 2012 12:10 Rad wrote:On November 05 2012 12:05 sylverfyre wrote:
So. Cheesecake does his flavor-roleclaim. Who follows? Clarity's the first to really manipulate people into looking at him favorably. (when he had looked bad all game)
FOS: Clarity
Can you quote the post you're talking about here? He was really late to jump on the cheese vote train. At what point do you think he was manipulating people? His pseudo-claim: On November 05 2012 08:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
I can do that too. I don't wanna pay for no porn man. I don't think that saying that proves anything, can't make an assumption based on the host's behavior. Cheese why did you claim VT? @ sylvefyreWhat did you mean by "pseudo-claim" when talking about Clarity post in response of Cheese claim ?
When I read this post from clarity, I took it to mean that he was trying to establish himself as town-aligned, knowing that Cheesecake didn't know at the time that everyone had the VT PM. Taking advantage of CC's incomplete information I found really scummy, and was my first big tell towards finding Clarity scum.
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Rad, don't you see that the same is true of the accusations Djo is making at me? I think we're looking in the complete wrong direction.
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On November 08 2012 13:07 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 12:43 Djodref wrote:On November 05 2012 12:50 sylverfyre wrote:On November 05 2012 12:10 Rad wrote:On November 05 2012 12:05 sylverfyre wrote:
So. Cheesecake does his flavor-roleclaim. Who follows? Clarity's the first to really manipulate people into looking at him favorably. (when he had looked bad all game)
FOS: Clarity
Can you quote the post you're talking about here? He was really late to jump on the cheese vote train. At what point do you think he was manipulating people? His pseudo-claim: On November 05 2012 08:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
I can do that too. I don't wanna pay for no porn man. I don't think that saying that proves anything, can't make an assumption based on the host's behavior. Cheese why did you claim VT? @ sylvefyreWhat did you mean by "pseudo-claim" when talking about Clarity post in response of Cheese claim ? When I read this post from clarity, I took it to mean that he was trying to establish himself as town-aligned, knowing that Cheesecake didn't know at the time that everyone had the VT PM. Taking advantage of CC's incomplete information I found really scummy, and was my first big tell towards finding Clarity scum.
Ok, thanks.
I'm still waiting for your complete and detailed story concerning your train of thoughts when you have discovered the Cheese incident for the first time. Would you be able to be as precise as Rad ? I would greatly appreciate it ^^
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On November 08 2012 13:12 sylverfyre wrote:
Rad, don't you see that the same is true of the accusations Djo is making at me? I think we're looking in the complete wrong direction.
@ sylverfyre
You should better wait for the association case I'm going to make to prove that you are his partner. My case against you is not even published yet that you are discrediting it already ?
Why are you trying to buddy Rad ?
Why do you think debears was killed ?
Who is the last scum in your opinion ?
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On November 08 2012 13:07 Obzy wrote:Rad - Rather than go into your comments to Djo just now, I'll just swap topics slightly; Are you down with a Sylv lynch tomorrow? Because I'm pretty sure that's the game plan atm. The alternative is you, afaik. Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 11:50 Rad wrote:I did reconsider. I had to throw out all my thoughts about him being VT, but like I said, there was a moment during the cheese chaos that I thought he might be blue. Also, scum clarity NOT at least attempting to ride on my VT story didn't make sense to me. The cop claim was like... what, why would he do that? Is he really cop? So, I held a little hope that he would flip blue and was spending my time thinking about who was the scum if he did (was thinking you and obzy). Why in the world would you ever hope that somebody flipped blue, if you are town? That very nearly makes me want to vote you first, but I think you just misspoke, rather than it being a scumslip. I think that the depth of your backing of Clarity would be too... Hmmm. I don't think it would make a lot of sense as scum. It's certainly possible, but I'd prefer a Sylv lynch tomorrow.
@Obzy
Because I'd be happier with djo being wrong and me being right 
If clarity flipped blue, you and djo are scum (in my head). That sounds more fun, and still gets town the win, cause I would have tunneled the shit out of both of you. Do you realize you got town confirmation with everyone just because of your claim that you didn't really want to play anymore? Actually da0ud's reaction to that made me really suspicious of him. I get shit on like I'm potential scum even though my story and actions line up perfectly throughout the entire game? Think I'm a scum mastermind after 1 game (in which I was town)?
I don't know what to think about sylver atm. I also think it probably doesn't matter because he'll be lynched no matter what. And if it's not him, it's me, so why bother thinking about him (you guys are going to take anything I find as potential scum pushing your opinions, and I think everyone here already knows I'm not great at reads, so it's not like I'm going to find anything reading sylver's filters all day). I'm probably going to think more about who's scum if he's not cause that's way more interesting to me. That sort of thing might save us the game if he flips town, cause then it's all eyes on me and I'll have to convince myself out of it to get town the win.
If you lynch me, better make a backup plan, cause I'm flipping mfing VT. Scum should NK me or sylver (if sylver's not scum) to make this shit super interesting and at least end on a fun note ^^
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On November 08 2012 13:12 sylverfyre wrote:
Rad, don't you see that the same is true of the accusations Djo is making at me? I think we're looking in the complete wrong direction.
Sorry, what are you referring to?
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On November 08 2012 13:32 Rad wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 13:07 Obzy wrote:Rad - Rather than go into your comments to Djo just now, I'll just swap topics slightly; Are you down with a Sylv lynch tomorrow? Because I'm pretty sure that's the game plan atm. The alternative is you, afaik. On November 08 2012 11:50 Rad wrote:I did reconsider. I had to throw out all my thoughts about him being VT, but like I said, there was a moment during the cheese chaos that I thought he might be blue. Also, scum clarity NOT at least attempting to ride on my VT story didn't make sense to me. The cop claim was like... what, why would he do that? Is he really cop? So, I held a little hope that he would flip blue and was spending my time thinking about who was the scum if he did (was thinking you and obzy). Why in the world would you ever hope that somebody flipped blue, if you are town? That very nearly makes me want to vote you first, but I think you just misspoke, rather than it being a scumslip. I think that the depth of your backing of Clarity would be too... Hmmm. I don't think it would make a lot of sense as scum. It's certainly possible, but I'd prefer a Sylv lynch tomorrow. @ObzyBecause I'd be happier with djo being wrong and me being right If clarity flipped blue, you and djo are scum (in my head). That sounds more fun, and still gets town the win, cause I would have tunneled the shit out of both of you. Do you realize you got town confirmation with everyone just because of your claim that you didn't really want to play anymore? Actually da0ud's reaction to that made me really suspicious of him. I get shit on like I'm potential scum even though my story and actions line up perfectly throughout the entire game? Think I'm a scum mastermind after 1 game (in which I was town)? I don't know what to think about sylver atm. I also think it probably doesn't matter because he'll be lynched no matter what. And if it's not him, it's me, so why bother thinking about him (you guys are going to take anything I find as potential scum pushing your opinions, and I think everyone here already knows I'm not great at reads, so it's not like I'm going to find anything reading sylver's filters all day). I'm probably going to think more about who's scum if he's not cause that's way more interesting to me. That sort of thing might save us the game if he flips town, cause then it's all eyes on me and I'll have to convince myself out of it to get town the win. If you lynch me, better make a backup plan, cause I'm flipping mfing VT. Scum should NK me or sylver (if sylver's not scum) to make this shit super interesting and at least end on a fun note ^^
@ Rad
You sure understand nothing about scum mentality when it's time to choose a target for the NK  Scum is going to lose the game if they keep confirmed blue players (Alsn and me) alive...
Let's make something interesting to help you improve, okay ? I've found a lot of interesting things in Clarity's filter and his interactions with the other players. So why don't you go over Clarity's filter once again while keeping in my mind that
- Clarity is scum
- Djodref is blue
- Alsn is blue
Please have a deep look on how Clarity interacts with Obzy, daoud and sylverfyre and post an analysis of his filter.
I would not mind some comments on Clarity interactions with you
What do you think of it ? It's quite fun to do now that we have more information ^^
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On November 08 2012 13:32 Rad wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 13:07 Obzy wrote:Rad - Rather than go into your comments to Djo just now, I'll just swap topics slightly; Are you down with a Sylv lynch tomorrow? Because I'm pretty sure that's the game plan atm. The alternative is you, afaik. On November 08 2012 11:50 Rad wrote:I did reconsider. I had to throw out all my thoughts about him being VT, but like I said, there was a moment during the cheese chaos that I thought he might be blue. Also, scum clarity NOT at least attempting to ride on my VT story didn't make sense to me. The cop claim was like... what, why would he do that? Is he really cop? So, I held a little hope that he would flip blue and was spending my time thinking about who was the scum if he did (was thinking you and obzy). Why in the world would you ever hope that somebody flipped blue, if you are town? That very nearly makes me want to vote you first, but I think you just misspoke, rather than it being a scumslip. I think that the depth of your backing of Clarity would be too... Hmmm. I don't think it would make a lot of sense as scum. It's certainly possible, but I'd prefer a Sylv lynch tomorrow. @ObzyBecause I'd be happier with djo being wrong and me being right If clarity flipped blue, you and djo are scum (in my head). That sounds more fun, and still gets town the win, cause I would have tunneled the shit out of both of you. Do you realize you got town confirmation with everyone just because of your claim that you didn't really want to play anymore? Actually da0ud's reaction to that made me really suspicious of him. I get shit on like I'm potential scum even though my story and actions line up perfectly throughout the entire game? Think I'm a scum mastermind after 1 game (in which I was town)? I don't know what to think about sylver atm. I also think it probably doesn't matter because he'll be lynched no matter what. And if it's not him, it's me, so why bother thinking about him (you guys are going to take anything I find as potential scum pushing your opinions, and I think everyone here already knows I'm not great at reads, so it's not like I'm going to find anything reading sylver's filters all day). I'm probably going to think more about who's scum if he's not cause that's way more interesting to me. That sort of thing might save us the game if he flips town, cause then it's all eyes on me and I'll have to convince myself out of it to get town the win. If you lynch me, better make a backup plan, cause I'm flipping mfing VT. Scum should NK me or sylver (if sylver's not scum) to make this shit super interesting and at least end on a fun note ^^
I guess that makes sense. I pointed out how if clarity flipped blue, it doesn't say anything about Djo, but it would make me look bad; that's certainly true. Do I realize I'm confirmed town? Of course o_O I've felt a lot better since making my post; I don't have to worry myself half to death, and we hit scum properly today so I'm happy. My only worry is that if we mislynch twice in a row (Like - if da0ud is scum, and we go Sylv-->you, hypothetically) that it'd be bad obviously, but strategy with blues can't resolve this (aka for the next 24 hours during this night period), and there's no point in worrying if it's between you/da0ud[unlikely imo] until the unlikely (IMO~) scenario that Sylv flips town.
I liked da0ud's reaction to the events that had occurred. I think that the slight language difficulty put me at ease a bit, like - how could he be lying while still typing that way? His post literally brought a smile to my face as I was reading it. It felt too genuine, and that's all my own defense really was - honesty and being genuine. I don't want you to be scum, and I think Sylv is, but there are only six people left.
I can't blame you for wanting the game to turn out a different way while still having a town victory, but I am going to be content with merely having a town victory (period).
I suppose I shouldn't be thinking about contingency plans for two days ahead, I should just think about tomorrow. I'm getting a bit ahead of myself, and apologize.
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On November 08 2012 13:53 Obzy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 13:32 Rad wrote:On November 08 2012 13:07 Obzy wrote:Rad - Rather than go into your comments to Djo just now, I'll just swap topics slightly; Are you down with a Sylv lynch tomorrow? Because I'm pretty sure that's the game plan atm. The alternative is you, afaik. On November 08 2012 11:50 Rad wrote:I did reconsider. I had to throw out all my thoughts about him being VT, but like I said, there was a moment during the cheese chaos that I thought he might be blue. Also, scum clarity NOT at least attempting to ride on my VT story didn't make sense to me. The cop claim was like... what, why would he do that? Is he really cop? So, I held a little hope that he would flip blue and was spending my time thinking about who was the scum if he did (was thinking you and obzy). Why in the world would you ever hope that somebody flipped blue, if you are town? That very nearly makes me want to vote you first, but I think you just misspoke, rather than it being a scumslip. I think that the depth of your backing of Clarity would be too... Hmmm. I don't think it would make a lot of sense as scum. It's certainly possible, but I'd prefer a Sylv lynch tomorrow. @ObzyBecause I'd be happier with djo being wrong and me being right If clarity flipped blue, you and djo are scum (in my head). That sounds more fun, and still gets town the win, cause I would have tunneled the shit out of both of you. Do you realize you got town confirmation with everyone just because of your claim that you didn't really want to play anymore? Actually da0ud's reaction to that made me really suspicious of him. I get shit on like I'm potential scum even though my story and actions line up perfectly throughout the entire game? Think I'm a scum mastermind after 1 game (in which I was town)? I don't know what to think about sylver atm. I also think it probably doesn't matter because he'll be lynched no matter what. And if it's not him, it's me, so why bother thinking about him (you guys are going to take anything I find as potential scum pushing your opinions, and I think everyone here already knows I'm not great at reads, so it's not like I'm going to find anything reading sylver's filters all day). I'm probably going to think more about who's scum if he's not cause that's way more interesting to me. That sort of thing might save us the game if he flips town, cause then it's all eyes on me and I'll have to convince myself out of it to get town the win. If you lynch me, better make a backup plan, cause I'm flipping mfing VT. Scum should NK me or sylver (if sylver's not scum) to make this shit super interesting and at least end on a fun note ^^ I guess that makes sense. I pointed out how if clarity flipped blue, it doesn't say anything about Djo, but it would make me look bad; that's certainly true. Do I realize I'm confirmed town? Of course o_O I've felt a lot better since making my post; I don't have to worry myself half to death, and we hit scum properly today so I'm happy. My only worry is that if we mislynch twice in a row (Like - if da0ud is scum, and we go Sylv-->you, hypothetically) that it'd be bad obviously, but strategy with blues can't resolve this (aka for the next 24 hours during this night period), and there's no point in worrying if it's between you/da0ud[unlikely imo] until the unlikely (IMO~) scenario that Sylv flips town. I liked da0ud's reaction to the events that had occurred. I think that the slight language difficulty put me at ease a bit, like - how could he be lying while still typing that way? His post literally brought a smile to my face as I was reading it. It felt too genuine, and that's all my own defense really was - honesty and being genuine. I don't want you to be scum, and I think Sylv is, but there are only six people left. I can't blame you for wanting the game to turn out a different way while still having a town victory, but I am going to be content with merely having a town victory (period). I suppose I shouldn't be thinking about contingency plans for two days ahead, I should just think about tomorrow. I'm getting a bit ahead of myself, and apologize.
@ Obzy
As I've said to Rad, I think that going through Clarity's filter once again now that we know for sure that he was scum is a pretty good exercise. And that can bring good and relevant information for tonight and tomorrow.
It's up to you but I would like to see your post-mortem analysis of his filter.
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On November 08 2012 13:52 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 13:32 Rad wrote:On November 08 2012 13:07 Obzy wrote:Rad - Rather than go into your comments to Djo just now, I'll just swap topics slightly; Are you down with a Sylv lynch tomorrow? Because I'm pretty sure that's the game plan atm. The alternative is you, afaik. On November 08 2012 11:50 Rad wrote:I did reconsider. I had to throw out all my thoughts about him being VT, but like I said, there was a moment during the cheese chaos that I thought he might be blue. Also, scum clarity NOT at least attempting to ride on my VT story didn't make sense to me. The cop claim was like... what, why would he do that? Is he really cop? So, I held a little hope that he would flip blue and was spending my time thinking about who was the scum if he did (was thinking you and obzy). Why in the world would you ever hope that somebody flipped blue, if you are town? That very nearly makes me want to vote you first, but I think you just misspoke, rather than it being a scumslip. I think that the depth of your backing of Clarity would be too... Hmmm. I don't think it would make a lot of sense as scum. It's certainly possible, but I'd prefer a Sylv lynch tomorrow. @ObzyBecause I'd be happier with djo being wrong and me being right If clarity flipped blue, you and djo are scum (in my head). That sounds more fun, and still gets town the win, cause I would have tunneled the shit out of both of you. Do you realize you got town confirmation with everyone just because of your claim that you didn't really want to play anymore? Actually da0ud's reaction to that made me really suspicious of him. I get shit on like I'm potential scum even though my story and actions line up perfectly throughout the entire game? Think I'm a scum mastermind after 1 game (in which I was town)? I don't know what to think about sylver atm. I also think it probably doesn't matter because he'll be lynched no matter what. And if it's not him, it's me, so why bother thinking about him (you guys are going to take anything I find as potential scum pushing your opinions, and I think everyone here already knows I'm not great at reads, so it's not like I'm going to find anything reading sylver's filters all day). I'm probably going to think more about who's scum if he's not cause that's way more interesting to me. That sort of thing might save us the game if he flips town, cause then it's all eyes on me and I'll have to convince myself out of it to get town the win. If you lynch me, better make a backup plan, cause I'm flipping mfing VT. Scum should NK me or sylver (if sylver's not scum) to make this shit super interesting and at least end on a fun note ^^ @ RadYou sure understand nothing about scum mentality when it's time to choose a target for the NK Scum is going to lose the game if they keep confirmed blue players (Alsn and me) alive... Let's make something interesting to help you improve, okay ? I've found a lot of interesting things in Clarity's filter and his interactions with the other players. So why don't you go over Clarity's filter once again while keeping in my mind that
- Clarity is scum
- Djodref is blue
- Alsn is blue
Please have a deep look on how Clarity interacts with Obzy, daoud and sylverfyre and post an analysis of his filter. I would not mind some comments on Clarity interactions with you What do you think of it ? It's quite fun to do now that we have more information ^^
Thanks for the attempt at making this interesting to me, but as I've said before, I don't like doing that. I dip back into filters when I remember something I want to re-read but it's really hard for me to sit there and focus on figuring out connections. Also, I read an article on mafiascum site that suggested that reading filters is the biggest waste of time people do. That makes sense to me and coincidentally pushed me towards what I enjoy with the game. I like to catch people in comments that I find odd and discuss it with them. That's fun to me. Coming up with a case isn't. I guess this game might not be for me ^^ But I'm going to stick it out until the end cause I don't quit games (highly competitive).
If you guys switch your focus to me, I will absolutely defend myself. But I don't know how to find the last scum except to look at it from what I've read so far and trust my instincts. Clearly my instincts in this game suck
btw I made that suggestion to scum not because I think they'd take it, but because I think that would make this super interesting. Don't you think? Imagine "town sylver dies from NK." All eyes point to me don't they? Or is it scum trying to WIFOM you into lynching me? Or "town rad dies from NK." Same story. How do you read that?
Obviously you or alsn are going to die. I agree, you're both confirmed blues. But... me or sylver to get NK'd, that shit would be fun. And that's what I like, fun ^^ Stuff like cheese's claim, clarity's claim, that gets me pumped and interested. It's like a detective drama XD Reading through filters? yaaaaaawn.
I would be interested to talk to someone who plays this game how I like to play it after this game, if they can do it without spending their entire day (which is what I've been doing). f5f5f5, code code, f5f5f5. That's me most days TT
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You've been attacking me for the entire length of this game. Why do I need to wait for you to post anything to criticize the things you've been saying all game?
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On November 08 2012 14:14 Rad wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 13:52 Djodref wrote:On November 08 2012 13:32 Rad wrote:On November 08 2012 13:07 Obzy wrote:Rad - Rather than go into your comments to Djo just now, I'll just swap topics slightly; Are you down with a Sylv lynch tomorrow? Because I'm pretty sure that's the game plan atm. The alternative is you, afaik. On November 08 2012 11:50 Rad wrote:I did reconsider. I had to throw out all my thoughts about him being VT, but like I said, there was a moment during the cheese chaos that I thought he might be blue. Also, scum clarity NOT at least attempting to ride on my VT story didn't make sense to me. The cop claim was like... what, why would he do that? Is he really cop? So, I held a little hope that he would flip blue and was spending my time thinking about who was the scum if he did (was thinking you and obzy). Why in the world would you ever hope that somebody flipped blue, if you are town? That very nearly makes me want to vote you first, but I think you just misspoke, rather than it being a scumslip. I think that the depth of your backing of Clarity would be too... Hmmm. I don't think it would make a lot of sense as scum. It's certainly possible, but I'd prefer a Sylv lynch tomorrow. @ObzyBecause I'd be happier with djo being wrong and me being right If clarity flipped blue, you and djo are scum (in my head). That sounds more fun, and still gets town the win, cause I would have tunneled the shit out of both of you. Do you realize you got town confirmation with everyone just because of your claim that you didn't really want to play anymore? Actually da0ud's reaction to that made me really suspicious of him. I get shit on like I'm potential scum even though my story and actions line up perfectly throughout the entire game? Think I'm a scum mastermind after 1 game (in which I was town)? I don't know what to think about sylver atm. I also think it probably doesn't matter because he'll be lynched no matter what. And if it's not him, it's me, so why bother thinking about him (you guys are going to take anything I find as potential scum pushing your opinions, and I think everyone here already knows I'm not great at reads, so it's not like I'm going to find anything reading sylver's filters all day). I'm probably going to think more about who's scum if he's not cause that's way more interesting to me. That sort of thing might save us the game if he flips town, cause then it's all eyes on me and I'll have to convince myself out of it to get town the win. If you lynch me, better make a backup plan, cause I'm flipping mfing VT. Scum should NK me or sylver (if sylver's not scum) to make this shit super interesting and at least end on a fun note ^^ @ RadYou sure understand nothing about scum mentality when it's time to choose a target for the NK Scum is going to lose the game if they keep confirmed blue players (Alsn and me) alive... Let's make something interesting to help you improve, okay ? I've found a lot of interesting things in Clarity's filter and his interactions with the other players. So why don't you go over Clarity's filter once again while keeping in my mind that
- Clarity is scum
- Djodref is blue
- Alsn is blue
Please have a deep look on how Clarity interacts with Obzy, daoud and sylverfyre and post an analysis of his filter. I would not mind some comments on Clarity interactions with you What do you think of it ? It's quite fun to do now that we have more information ^^ Thanks for the attempt at making this interesting to me, but as I've said before, I don't like doing that. I dip back into filters when I remember something I want to re-read but it's really hard for me to sit there and focus on figuring out connections. Also, I read an article on mafiascum site that suggested that reading filters is the biggest waste of time people do. That makes sense to me and coincidentally pushed me towards what I enjoy with the game. I like to catch people in comments that I find odd and discuss it with them. That's fun to me. Coming up with a case isn't. I guess this game might not be for me ^^ But I'm going to stick it out until the end cause I don't quit games (highly competitive). If you guys switch your focus to me, I will absolutely defend myself. But I don't know how to find the last scum except to look at it from what I've read so far and trust my instincts. Clearly my instincts in this game suck btw I made that suggestion to scum not because I think they'd take it, but because I think that would make this super interesting. Don't you think? Imagine "town sylver dies from NK." All eyes point to me don't they? Or is it scum trying to WIFOM you into lynching me? Or "town rad dies from NK." Same story. How do you read that? Obviously you or alsn are going to die. I agree, you're both confirmed blues. But... me or sylver to get NK'd, that shit would be fun. And that's what I like, fun ^^ Stuff like cheese's claim, clarity's claim, that gets me pumped and interested. It's like a detective drama XD Reading through filters? yaaaaaawn. I would be interested to talk to someone who plays this game how I like to play it after this game, if they can do it without spending their entire day (which is what I've been doing). f5f5f5, code code, f5f5f5. That's me most days TT
Speaking of catching people in comments you find odd... You are BEING odd right now.
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Scum odd or town odd? Or just plain old ODD that doesn't suggest one or the other? What do you think sylver?
You called obzy out on being awkward earlier. Is that just you not really relating to people well? Cause I related to obzy's post back then ^^
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[QUOTE]On November 08 2012 14:14 Rad wrote:
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btw I made that suggestion to scum not because I think they'd take it, but because I think that would make this super interesting. Don't you think? Imagine "town sylver dies from NK." All eyes point to me don't they? Or is it scum trying to WIFOM you into lynching me? Or "town rad dies from NK." Same story. How do you read that?
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@ Rad
It's ok, it was totally up to you... I'll have to write down my association case myself then ^^
You should maybe ask sylverfyre about his games in IRC after game. I imagine that they are more quick and more based on chatting than our game but I don't know for sure.
To answer to your question about the NK, if you want to see the game from a mafia point of view, you have to consider how many mislynches have to happen for the last mafia player to win. We are now in a 5vs1 situation. Let's assume that I cannot prevent any night kill. Tomorrow is 4vs1 and if a mislynch happens followed by a night kill then it's down to a 2vs1 situation. Then another mislynch seals the mafia victory ! The last mafia player, whoever he is, is 2 mislynch away from victory.
Right now, it is clear that sylverfyre and you have the biggest potential for a mislynch (I'm saying this because one of you is town for sure, I don't believe a single instant that you are both town) so mafia is never going to get rid of you. The last mafia player wants you in the game the longest time possible (if you are town) so when sylverfyre is posting this+ Show Spoiler +On November 07 2012 23:31 sylverfyre wrote:
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As for who I think is scummy? I'm thinking it's Obzy or da0ud. Rad still seems genuine to me, Alsn counterclaimed the way he was forced to.
You also have to consider that having confirmed players around reduces greatly the possibility of a mislynch to happen. Having confirmed town players is great for the general town atmosphere because scum cannot create confusion by spreading doubts about them and their reads and cases. Having a confirmed cop like Alsn is better for town because he can confirm more town players. The longer Alsn is alive, the worst the situation becomes for scum to get the mislynches he need. I hope that I'm not helping the scum to realize this but I guess he already knows it perfectly.
Alsn is the #1 target because he is our most reliable tool to prevent the town from mislynching. A NK on you or sylverfyre would reduce the possibility of a mislynch to happen. I know that it's less fun but this is going to happen.
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@djo
Yep, I understand and agree with everything you said about who will get NK'd.
Just thought it would be cool for the scenario I talked about
I don't understand how that is a sylver scum slip but I believe you're town and you were right about clarity when I was wrong so I'll just have to believe you.
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On November 08 2012 15:06 Rad wrote:@djoYep, I understand and agree with everything you said about who will get NK'd. Just thought it would be cool for the scenario I talked about I don't understand how that is a sylver scum slip but I believe you're town and you were right about clarity when I was wrong so I'll just have to believe you.
EBWOP: Just thought it would be cool for the scenario I talked about to happen
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On November 08 2012 15:06 Rad wrote:@djoYep, I understand and agree with everything you said about who will get NK'd. Just thought it would be cool for the scenario I talked about I don't understand how that is a sylver scum slip but I believe you're town and you were right about clarity when I was wrong so I'll just have to believe you.
@ Rad
It's a scumtell, not a scumslip
Right now, you are looking very bad because of your hard-defense of Clarity.
Even if you have to best explanations in the world for it, and I personally find your explanations and your motivations believable and consistent (the breadcrumb and the PMs to marv give your story much credit), it's going to be difficult for anyone to believe that you are really town and you have to get lynched for defending Clarity like this, sooner or later.
So, if you are town, you are the perfect player to keep until lylo (the 2vs1 situation in our case). I don't see why sylverfyre would take you as more genuine than Obzy so I guess that he wants you around, hence buddying you and so on...
I don't know if I have explained it well or not...
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On November 08 2012 14:35 sylverfyre wrote:
You've been attacking me for the entire length of this game. Why do I need to wait for you to post anything to criticize the things you've been saying all game?
@ sylverfyre
Why are you not posting anything against Obzy or daoud ? Are you repeating the same mistake Clariry did, trying to argue with me all day long ? Bring the case of your life against who you think you find scum and maybe then (only maybe) I'm going to change my mind about you.
I strongly believe that you are the last scum and I'm preparing something against you. I've noticed that you don't answer all my questions for you but, if you prefer to spend your time attacking rather than defending, I might be able to let you off the hook for this one. But you should not waste your time with this kind of comment.
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