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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 15 2012 13:08 GMT
#981
but they're very likely true which is good enough for me

HiroPro isn't reliably around until 20:00 GMT (+00:00) so that's his deadline.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 15 2012 13:11 GMT
#982
well explain yourself anyway. if you die and flip town and ET is scum like you say then won't you want us to know why you think so?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 15 2012 13:17 GMT
#983
From my point of view:

thrawn2112
kushm4sta
Djodref
Hopeless1der
Mementoss
prplhz


I'm fairly confident in all of these reads. People who are left in the game and not in that list:

austinmcc
EchelonTee
HiroPro
da0ud

da0ud I think is scum because of my initial read on him and partially also how OriginalName decided to save him out of the blue. That leaves:

austinmcc
EchelonTee
HiroPro

Leaving austinmcc out is just a hunch but I'm reading more into it right now. Thus EchelonTee and HiroPro.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 15 2012 13:19 GMT
#984
how sure are you of da0 being scum?

how sure are you of whoever else being scum?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5244 Posts
October 15 2012 13:25 GMT
#985
I don't care if you give me the bomb because I'm just going to give it back to you. If you hide, then I'll give it to da0ud. In fact I'd prefer you give it to me because I know exactly what I want to do with it.

I do find it amusing that you're trying to threaten me or something?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 15 2012 13:26 GMT
#986
In the case that da0 gets lynched and he flips green then this post may be of importance later:

I don't like the way prplhz and memtoss have defended each other in the last couple pages

On October 15 2012 21:21 prplhz wrote:
can you please explain to me how you can be so dumb to think that scum are just going to pass the potato between each other? if that happens you can be 100% sure that one of them isn't scum.

da0ud is probably scum and i should just have gone with my page 2 scum read on him and realized that OriginalName's 2 ninja votes were suspicious as fuck but sandroba is just ten steps ahead of me. i might pass it to him but then you have to deal with how he's passing it to a townie Mementoss (doubt Mementoss would have the balls to tell a townie sandroba to sod off in the first 2 pages if he was scum). i'm thinking Mementoss holds on to his hide for now and then he hides when i give the potato to da0ud.


On October 15 2012 21:27 Mementoss wrote:
Work Time now, so I don't have time to explain. Hopefully will before the potato blows

I would MUCH rather lynch d0ad over prplhz. If you actually read prplhz filter he looks pretty town ignoring the fact he really thought sandroba was scum. But guess what? Townies are wrong most of the time. They don't have the information like scum. They can't manufacturer reads based on this information. That looks like what da0d has been doing all game, picking people to make cases on and manufacturing them after the fact.

Also, to everyone saying lolz da0d/ prplhz pass between eachother. (kush) I want a detailed post on why you think they are both scum. Including stuff that doesn't have to do with ON flipping scum. Also think if you had the potato and you knew you were town. Why the fuck would you listen to anyone else or hold the potato because someone told you to? Holding the potato as town makes no sense. Holding the potato as scum, makes more sense to get town cred. Telling people what they have do with the potato without a good reason, or they will be lynched is complete scum motivation. If I had the potato, I would not hold that thing a second longer than I had to, and would be putting it on my top scum read, not someone elses. Why? You know your own alignment and no one elses. You can only trust yourself at that point.

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5244 Posts
October 15 2012 13:27 GMT
#987
Before you ask me why I'm so sure prplhz is scum:

On October 15 2012 06:30 EchelonTee wrote:
Specifically:
Show nested quote +
what prplhz said: OriginalName is town because it's town like to be completely absent.


[image loading]

aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5244 Posts
October 15 2012 13:36 GMT
#988
On October 15 2012 16:10 da0ud wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Let me put some of my thoughts on Mementoss down :

1) My first scum read on him was by looking at the way he could have tried to hide his action by being the one voting on the most people after round one and two. 4 different people including Sand who was town (two votes) and kush as well who is the one is consider the towniest currently.
He has been changing his attitude : voting kush in the first round and then not following it by voting sand in second round. Or voting Djo in first round and then switching it up by going for ET in round two.

2) in the finals he did probably hide his votes by putting them on ON when San was leading 20-0. Changing his mind later on and putting votes on Sand when ON was catching up would have looked too very odd.

3) He has never been attacking directly ON, kind of defending him on posts and saying San is scummier.

On October 11 2012 02:24 Mementoss wrote:
1.
Mementoss:
Town

2.
OriginalName:
Has been active after the game has started and chose not to participate in any discussion. Other than that nothing. Seems pretty scummy. Already ahead by 3 votes, I have no reason to use a vote on him right now.

On October 12 2012 04:37 Mementoss wrote:
2.
OriginalName
Lurking pretty hard as well. Only has one post with content so far. But it brings up some pretty decent points. Still he needs more activity into the game, looking forward to what his thoughts are on the other players/matchups. Null. Not voting either.

3.
Sandropa:
I don't like his posting at all this game. As others have said, most of his posting has been here are my thoughts and gives no reasoning. ET defends him with his meta in this statement:
"Sandroba is one of those super strong town players who is comparatively abysmal as a mafia player. When he's mafia, his lack of effort and interest becomes abundantly clear very quickly, sort of like Palmar but even moreso, IMO. Therefore, when he plays mafia I find that he runs active disruption to try and make as much chaos as possible until he inevitably gets shot/lynched. "
Which I don't know how ET thinks hes following this, is he reading the same game I am? I think if anything he looks like mafia meta this game, lack of effort and interest seem prevelant in this game, and no attempt to find any scum at all. I would really like him to go through and put some pressure on him to persue some reads. Looks scummy to me. 2 votes.

On October 13 2012 22:53 Mementoss wrote:
Also ET I know you explained it but its still fucking weird that you LAST MINUTE dropped all your votes on ON, after expecting him for a modkill, not having a read on him. And having a scum read on hopeless all of the first 2 cycles, you save him last minute.

Not sure which way I will be voting today yet.

On October 14 2012 00:31 Mementoss wrote:
I will be putting all my votes on ON unless he returns then

Sounds like a defaults choice, when ON is afk and lead 20-0.

4) All of mementoss argumentation is otherwise based on saying he is town because he used his votes earlier, he am concerned some people kept some votes and are powerful in the finals. Good way to hide the fact he actually doesn't affect anything in the vote. He is really hiding behind the fact he makes no difference in the voting decisions.
On October 11 2012 20:56 Mementoss wrote:
It bothers me that these 3 players have the most power in town

ON
Hopeless
Da0

None of them used any votes officially, and all have 10 votes remaining. Coming down to the wire any one of them as scum could sway the results.

On October 11 2012 21:00 Mementoss wrote:
If they're scum and that's their plan then they're pretty stupid because they'd be put in the spotlight for doing that.

Not all 3, but it is very possible for one of them to be scum, gaining 2 extra votes after the first round could prove to be a great advantage.

On October 11 2012 23:59 Mementoss wrote:
I will not make any deadlines.

And hopeless you look fine with the way you unvoted. I still don't like that particular players will have more influence on the final lynch.

On October 12 2012 20:50 Mementoss wrote:
I have the least amount of votes left. sheit. Everyone else is "saving" there votes, or voting so late that it doesn't matter so they don't have to vote and have all the power at the end.
=> this previous post is the climax !
On October 13 2012 22:52 Mementoss wrote:
prp: 8 Remain
ON: 8 Remain
da0: 9 Remain
Austin: 9 Remain

This^^ this right here is horseshit.
Apathetic voting up towards the last round is unacceptable.
I think everyone should only be using 5 of there votes
3 of these players alone trump the rest of the players in the game. Sandroba doesn't even have anyvotes to defend himself while ON has 9.

Actually, everyone should only be using 1 vote, and we can get some sort of real full out majority going where everyone is involved. For the people with 0 votes left.

##Mementoss vote "Player Name"
and I will use one of my votes towards giving you a voice in this lynch. I have a feeling scum has WAY too much control right now. But there is a possibility its too late anyways, this method should give more information to where people are at in their thought process.

On October 14 2012 03:09 Mementoss wrote:
THIS is what bugs me, your not strongly scummy on either YET you have 9 votes left? HMMM, I guess you shoulda used your votes to get who you thought was scum to the finals. You don't even give a shit.

This case is a prty good summary of my feelings on mmt. Especially the part where he gives slight deference to ON. That's one of those more subtle things that's actually quite important; he didn't out and out defend ON, sure, but his language in saying "brings up pretty good pts", "looking forward to what he has to say" is just strange as opposed to his dismissive attitude toward other player.

@1der, any reason why you are refraining from doing anything today? What's your opinion of the potato shenanigans?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 15 2012 13:37 GMT
#989
On October 15 2012 21:41 kushm4sta wrote:
@prpl if you are town (you're not) the best thing you can do is hold the bomb and let yourself die. That is what majority town wants. If you don't die now we will have to waste next turn killing you anyway.


Thats what I want to do and then you say I am scum. Because I am now misleading town i'd rather die and make my co-townies have a clearer view on real scums.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 15 2012 13:38 GMT
#990
@EchelonTee Why do you want to give the potato to da0ud when you like his case? Do you think that a scum da0ud would try to sell out a scum Mementoss at this point?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 13:39 GMT
#991
On October 15 2012 20:48 Mementoss wrote:
Also, I'm gunna try to shy away from the connection cases with ON. Simply for the fact that ON was the perfect bus target. He was useless, and inactive so was guaranteed to get lynched eventually and gave easy town credibility on any one voting him. It also gives scum a chance who voted him, to shift the attention off themselves by using oh he voted for ON not to move on in this matchup, SCUM SCUM. So yeah, I'll take it into account when reading filters, but I think ON was probably bussed.


@ET

Well, according to mementoss, we shouldn't look into that ON stuff anymore ^^
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 15 2012 13:39 GMT
#992
da0ud is also pledging to give the potato to Mementoss.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 15 2012 13:45 GMT
#993
On October 15 2012 22:26 thrawn2112 wrote:
In the case that da0 gets lynched and he flips green then this post may be of importance later:

I don't like the way prplhz and memtoss have defended each other in the last couple pages

Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 21:21 prplhz wrote:
can you please explain to me how you can be so dumb to think that scum are just going to pass the potato between each other? if that happens you can be 100% sure that one of them isn't scum.

da0ud is probably scum and i should just have gone with my page 2 scum read on him and realized that OriginalName's 2 ninja votes were suspicious as fuck but sandroba is just ten steps ahead of me. i might pass it to him but then you have to deal with how he's passing it to a townie Mementoss (doubt Mementoss would have the balls to tell a townie sandroba to sod off in the first 2 pages if he was scum). i'm thinking Mementoss holds on to his hide for now and then he hides when i give the potato to da0ud.


Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 21:27 Mementoss wrote:
Work Time now, so I don't have time to explain. Hopefully will before the potato blows

I would MUCH rather lynch d0ad over prplhz. If you actually read prplhz filter he looks pretty town ignoring the fact he really thought sandroba was scum. But guess what? Townies are wrong most of the time. They don't have the information like scum. They can't manufacturer reads based on this information. That looks like what da0d has been doing all game, picking people to make cases on and manufacturing them after the fact.

Also, to everyone saying lolz da0d/ prplhz pass between eachother. (kush) I want a detailed post on why you think they are both scum. Including stuff that doesn't have to do with ON flipping scum. Also think if you had the potato and you knew you were town. Why the fuck would you listen to anyone else or hold the potato because someone told you to? Holding the potato as town makes no sense. Holding the potato as scum, makes more sense to get town cred. Telling people what they have do with the potato without a good reason, or they will be lynched is complete scum motivation. If I had the potato, I would not hold that thing a second longer than I had to, and would be putting it on my top scum read, not someone elses. Why? You know your own alignment and no one elses. You can only trust yourself at that point.



Please indeed help me put light on Mementoss from the beginning of the day when all of you were sleeping and i has to catch back on 10 pages on thread.
Narrow minded town Kush keeps trying to avoid scum hunting or back up scum hunting in case of finding flaws in Mementoss argumentation.
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 15 2012 13:49 GMT
#994
I want to emphasize as well that Mementoss did vote for Kush first round.
I am pretty sure that the scum team is mementoss and Kusk.

da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 15 2012 13:50 GMT
#995
Edit : I am pretty sure that the scum team is mementoss and prplz.

Just kush is getting on my nerves right now
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 15 2012 13:51 GMT
#996
Da0 and prp are under a lot of pressure. Da0's response is to make cases and prplhz's response is to not make any sense. I'd much rather lynch prplhz right now.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 15 2012 13:53 GMT
#997
On October 15 2012 22:38 prplhz wrote:
@EchelonTee Why do you want to give the potato to da0ud when you like his case? Do you think that a scum da0ud would try to sell out a scum Mementoss at this point?


I was the first putting a case on Mementoss when everyone was focused on the round of 4 in Day 1. Showing how his voting behaviour was odd.
I am not trying to sell out no one now. I have been trying to selling my read long time ago
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 15 2012 14:02 GMT
#998
If I get the potato, my plan is as is :
- Get the majority of active people at this time to agree on who between prplz or mementoss should get the potato next.
- If one hides, the other one automatically gets it.
- If both hide, I will keep it and explode with it, while town will become a huge winner exposing them both.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 15 2012 14:06 GMT
#999
gonna play a game of dota2 to take my mind off things for a while but i like the idea of giving the potato to EchelonTee.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 15 2012 14:29 GMT
#1000
On October 15 2012 23:02 da0ud wrote:
If I get the potato, my plan is as is :
- Get the majority of active people at this time to agree on who between prplz or mementoss should get the potato next.
- If one hides, the other one automatically gets it.
- If both hide, I will keep it and explode with it, while town will become a huge winner exposing them both.


omg, that third point if your town is horrid. Just because you die that means your reads are correct?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
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