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On October 16 2012 03:27 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 00:52 Djodref wrote:On October 15 2012 22:25 EchelonTee wrote:
I don't care if you give me the bomb because I'm just going to give it back to you. If you hide, then I'll give it to da0ud. In fact I'd prefer you give it to me because I know exactly what I want to do with it.
I do find it amusing that you're trying to threaten me or something? @ETIf you are town and planning to give the potato back to him, why don't you hide ? The result is the same and you don't put yourself at risk at all. I don't understand why you would like to have the potato to give it back to him. I mean, right now, prplhz has the potato and I'm perfectly fine with it. The longer he has it, the happier I am. If I could use a hide to make him carry it longer I would. Because if I hide, he'll pass it to some other random townie, and it might explode on them (same chance of it exploding on me), and I don't know what that townie will do with the bomb, while I know exactly what I will do. This might be OMGUS, but prplhz has absolutely no reason to think that I am scum except for process of eliminiation, which is ludicrous to say the least. The fact that people are implying that they are unsure about prplhz or that they will explode other people boggles my mind a bit because of all of the absurd things prplhz has been saying. I've played with prplhz in a lot of games, and here a few things I've found: 1. he's a smart player: I remember when he N1 vigi shot scum. 2. he likes sheeping. I remember when he sheeped me even when I was a noobie, and when he sheeped everyone in Liar Game because he didn't know what was going on (busy with life I think?) 3. he usually responds to what people says In this game he's said some really outrageously dumb things that just sound so disingenuous. I don't care if people said that ON was null, or that he was just a lurker lynch. But to say that ON looks townie? Insanity. And to call me scum... for no reason? More insanity. And in this game when he had a chance to sheep sandroba and lay off him for just one cycle, he didn't take the opportunity. I don't see prplhz every doing this crap. Finally, when I and others call him out on his shit his response is to "fuck off lol". Are you goddamn serious. Is it risky for me to accept the potato? Obviously. But I'm fine with that to make prplhz completely and without question exposed as scum. If he sends it to me and I explode town, then prplhz should be revoked of his right to talk in thread until he finally gets the noose.
Even assuming prplhz is scum, we probably have more than 2 scum players this game. I'm not sure how it can boggle your mind that people are considering other ... targets? Kind of hard to say lynch options given today's lynch.
I think that if you want to make the argument that prplhz is scum this game, based heavily in arguments that he's normally better than this, or normally smarter than this, or whatever, you should rely less on "prplhz was town in game A, did X, and has not done X this game/is playing differently than X" and should rely MORE on "prplhz was SCUM in game B, did Y, and has done Y here."
Analogizing his play this game to town games and saying it's different is not nearly as strong as analogizing his play this game to scum games and showing it's the same.
He doesn't look super-duper townie, but you're overly tunneling him right now and not for the most convincing of reasons.
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prpl you do realize giving it to ET is a scum claim right?
No town would do this. He's just trying to kill the stongest town.
So we know that prpl is scum.
* oes anyone disagree that prpl is scum at this point?**
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i don't see why you care but okay, here are the major points:
you were pushing sandroba while voting OriginalName. your tone is different in this game than in those two where you spoke a lot more freely. you don't seem to care about this game despite your impressive post count, your pushes have been lacklustre and you weren't around for deadline. you didn't read any of my past games to determine if your read on me is right and i remember you as a hard working townie. your cases have been based on stuff i don't think that you would consider scummy such as people having different opinions or saying dumb shit. probably a little more but i didn't want to write it all down because it's quite irrelevant as i have the potato to give to people and since i'm not going to hide and everybody, including you, think i'm scummy i can easily get it back.
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@austin don't be ridiculous. I can see someone thinking memetoss is scum, sure, but ET...at this point?? He is the one that pushed ON through at the last second.
I mean you can have your suspicions on him, sure, but to try to kill him like this over way better suspects, against majority opinion...there is no way town would do that.
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austinmcc probably not because it's just too dumb to be around at deadline and selling your votes if one of your mates is up, he could just claim to be afk and then have sandroba lynched and it's hard to really argue against "oh i was at my grandmother's dog's funeral, sry guise!!!". i still can't get over the HiroPro didn't talk about anything but me/kushm4sta for the first 10 posts but meh, can't lynch everybody.
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On October 16 2012 04:10 kushm4sta wrote:
@austin don't be ridiculous. I can see someone thinking memetoss is scum, sure, but ET...at this point?? He is the one that pushed ON through at the last second.
I mean you can have your suspicions on him, sure, but to try to kill him like this over way better suspects, against majority opinion...there is no way town would do that.
I do not think that ET is scum at this point. I don't think I've read any scum ET games though.
I'm still looking more at mementoss and one of the double Ds though. I'm also paranoid about HiroPro, mainly because we just played scum together though and so I'm hyper aware of how he posted that game. There are little connections I'm drawing between his posts this game/that game but I don't think they're too reliable.
This whole thing about passing the potato is silly though. As far as I know, we have 0 idea when it's going to blow. Therefore, everyone should be passing it to scumreads, and doing it OFTEN. This "hold onto it forever and pass later" is crap, because it nets us so much less in terms of scumreads and information. We're all just sitting here, waiting for it to be passed. I'd rather sandroba be resurrected and prplhz pass the stupid potato to him, a confirmed townie, than hold onto it. Because then something is at least HAPPENING.
Normally, town has more votes than mafia (or the game ends), therefore, town controls the lynch. Today, TOWN DOES NOT CONTROL THE LYNCH. We need to quit playing today like we know where the potato is going to end up, like this is a normal lynch we're in control of, and just pass it. Pass it to townreads to see what they do. Pass it mainly to scumreads, to see what THEY do. The worst possible thing to do, imo, is to hold the potato. It's causing the thread to dry up, it's creating no information, and it's utter crap to pretend that you know when the thing is going to go off so you'll hold it until then.
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I don't care if people discuss other targets; I've done so myself. It's mainly the one or two people who think prplhz is town that bothers me.
There's really nothing left to say on the matter, just when will the RNG decide the lynch.
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On October 16 2012 04:14 prplhz wrote:
austinmcc probably not because it's just too dumb to be around at deadline and selling your votes if one of your mates is up, he could just claim to be afk and then have sandroba lynched and it's hard to really argue against "oh i was at my grandmother's dog's funeral, sry guise!!!". i still can't get over the HiroPro didn't talk about anything but me/kushm4sta for the first 10 posts but meh, can't lynch everybody.
so austin gets deference but I don't for my ON votes
ok
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I'm still looking at mementoss. Need to check over his recent posting and da0ud's posts on him.
For reference, here are mementoss's scum games and scum QTs.
Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia VIII
Scum QT that game
Aperture 1
Scum QT that game
He replaced into Aperture late.
When I read SNNM8 QT, I get the sense that scum Mementoss is plot-y. He's always concerned with when people are posting, where reads are going. He times his posts/votes, and there's constant talk about when/how much the mafiosos should mention each other and create connections.
Knowing that scum Mementoss is concerned about those things means that I believe scum Mementoss could easily vote ON in R4 when Sandroba was leading by so many votes. Scum mementoss likes not having connections that can be drawn between him and his buddies, and so I would expect a scum mementoss to really think through D1 and where his votes were going each round.
In the instant game, Mementoss pointed out that he wouldn't be around at deadline:On October 11 2012 23:59 Mementoss wrote:
I will not make any deadlines.
That further reduces the town cred from Mementoss's ON votes, because, if true, he would have been away during the final hours. Even with a few hours until lynch, Sandroba was winning. That only changed towards the very end, when Mementoss is supposedly away from thread.
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prplhz you need to pass the potato. Get this thing moving. We've already spent more than 24 hours with only a single pass.
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On October 16 2012 04:21 EchelonTee wrote:
I don't care if people discuss other targets; I've done so myself. It's mainly the one or two people who think prplhz is town that bothers me.
There's really nothing left to say on the matter, just when will the RNG decide the lynch.
You did say that The fact that people are implying that they are unsure about prplhz or that they will explode other people boggles my mind a bit which implies that it's not pure concern over people having townreads on prplhz, but rather that you don't know why ANYONE would want to lynch not-prplhz
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@ prpl ET is really your top scumread? lol
you should be passing it to either town's top scumread or yours.
I'm also ok with you holding it forever.
But are you really saying that ET is your top scumread?? After he last minute pushed ON through?
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I don't care if people discuss other targets; I've done so myself. It's mainly the one or two people who think prplhz is town that bothers me. It also boggles my mind that people would want to lynch someone other than prplhz first.
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On October 16 2012 04:53 kushm4sta wrote:
@ prpl ET is really your top scumread? lol
you should be passing it to either town's top scumread or yours.
I'm also ok with you holding it forever.
But are you really saying that ET is your top scumread?? After he last minute pushed ON through?
when exactly did he do that?
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On October 16 2012 04:54 EchelonTee wrote:
I don't care if people discuss other targets; I've done so myself. It's mainly the one or two people who think prplhz is town that bothers me. It also boggles my mind that people would want to lynch someone other than prplhz first.
It boggles my mind that that boggles your mind, but alright.
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On October 16 2012 05:00 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 04:53 kushm4sta wrote:
@ prpl ET is really your top scumread? lol
you should be passing it to either town's top scumread or yours.
I'm also ok with you holding it forever.
But are you really saying that ET is your top scumread?? After he last minute pushed ON through? when exactly did he do that?
End of ro4. I vote bombed 1der 1 hour before deadline. He counter votebombed ON seconds before deadline when he returned from afk.
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On October 16 2012 05:03 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 05:00 prplhz wrote:On October 16 2012 04:53 kushm4sta wrote:
@ prpl ET is really your top scumread? lol
you should be passing it to either town's top scumread or yours.
I'm also ok with you holding it forever.
But are you really saying that ET is your top scumread?? After he last minute pushed ON through? when exactly did he do that? End of ro4. I vote bombed 1der 1 hour before deadline. He counter votebombed ON seconds before deadline when he returned from afk.
R3.
ET dropped votes right at deadline to send ON to R4 instead of hopeless1der.
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I take back thinking prplhz being town. Him trying to kill ET has no town motivation and the fact he can't even explain why is even worse. Only thing I can think of is prplhz trying to kill ET before he is inevitely lynched?
Things that still make me think hes town. He's not trying to push the case on me so that the lynch targets extend from him and da0d to him da0d and me.
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oh oops. I was interpreting that as ROund 4. Gotcha.
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