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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 03 2012 16:06 GMT
#501
ebwop:
If I wanted to lync hyou or blue do you think I would have called both of you town for most of the game and vote for sinensis/iamp/SnB?
lol
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
October 03 2012 16:07 GMT
#502
i already told you. his post was about a scummy post of austin. you made a case of OMG FAILED LOGIC by ignoring his quote but quoting an earlier post. it was a lie, you made a bad case, iamp jumped on it.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 03 2012 16:09 GMT
#503
@Ottox:
CAN YOU PLESE ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION??????

On October 03 2012 23:01 Ottoxlol wrote:
Although I feel like scum is not commenting on me and Bluelightz because he's posting very stupid things that I just can't let go, he's a very new player so omgus all game long so we are pinned against each other and they can win easily. I will want to lynch those who almost ignore our whole conversation: Shiaopi and iamperfection. They tried to bus Sinensis with bad logic together, no one else bite so there could be something to look into.


I am asking what you meant by "bussing", first off there are only 2 scum, also that would have constituted 3 scumreads on iamp, sinensis and me. When you have been nullish on SInensis like forever and preferred to tunnel BL. What happened to your BL-read then?
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Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
October 03 2012 16:09 GMT
#504
Shiaopi thats whats up, you just said you think I am most likely to flip red even you called me town most of the game...
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
October 03 2012 16:09 GMT
#505
On October 04 2012 01:04 kushm4sta wrote:
@bluelightz
OK I will try to clarify my thoughts on ottoxlol:
More than just ottox is guilty of AFKing. You are guilty of it during certain parts of the game. So that's a null read as far as I'm concerned.

His last minute vote: null. I could definitely see town doing what he did. Time was almost up and he did it to prevent a no lynch. A no-lynch in those circumstances seems like it would have been pretty bad.


AFKing when I sleep is considered lurking I guess.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
October 03 2012 16:11 GMT
#506
@ShiaoPi,

The thing I pointed out is, a point. But, I don't consider you scummy enough to make a case (and that I consider Ottox more scummy then anyone).
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 03 2012 16:11 GMT
#507
That is after you started the derpfest ottox, now start answering the goddamn question
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
October 03 2012 16:12 GMT
#508
On October 04 2012 01:04 kushm4sta wrote:
@bluelightz
OK I will try to clarify my thoughts on ottoxlol:
More than just ottox is guilty of AFKing. You are guilty of it during certain parts of the game. So that's a null read as far as I'm concerned.

His last minute vote: null. I could definitely see town doing what he did. Time was almost up and he did it to prevent a no lynch. A no-lynch in those circumstances seems like it would have been pretty bad.


"OTTOX IS TOWNIE BECAUSE OF DAT BLUE"

"NAH DAT POINT IS NULL"

da faq
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Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
October 03 2012 16:13 GMT
#509
I asked you about Bl, no one seems to care that he's not playing town, he won't be lynched because you guys ignore his lies, his general bad play, bad logic.

I found it strange that no one cares about my conversation with Bl thats why I started to focus less on him, but finding the other scum. That doesnt mean I have a townread on him lol
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
October 03 2012 16:14 GMT
#510
On October 04 2012 01:00 kushm4sta wrote:
For proof all you have to do is press his filter.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 04 2012 00:56 ShiaoPi wrote:
Okay I am heading to bed soon, several things I want to get out now, in case I get shot.

If I do get shot or if artanis survives, lynch the shit out of him, there is no fucking way that scum will let confirmed townies survive. Also add that to the fact that neither phagga nor artanis have done any relevant scumhunting since claiming. Seriously if he did not claim I would have been all over him anyway....

Onto bluelightz.
I have no fucking idea right now. His latest target seems to be me, after he tunneled ottox to oblivion. I obviously don't like it and while I had a townleaning nullread on him earlier it kind of is going down the drain at the moment. He could be scum but I really do not know.

@bluelightz:
Please make a coherent case on me if you really believe me to be scum. Do not just point at me saying I am scum, without backing it up.

Sinensis/kush:
Kush is doing so much more than sinensis did, so I am a happy for that, still I would say he is pretty much linked together with Ottox.

Ottox:
Had a gutread of town on him earlier. It was just the general feel I got off his posting. What I do not like is how he is starting to discredit me and his post where he said that iamperfection and I were "bussing" sinensis makes no fucking sense. Also notice how he evaded answering my question based on the phrasing. Also his focus on bluelightz is worrying me. I kind of degraded him to nullish-scum now.

Iamperfection:
The points I raised on him are still valid, sheeping when promising scumhunting etc. . His recent post of reads is making sense, but I am still wary--->nullish

What I want to do if I survive and Artanis gets shot:
Lynch ottox, pray for red flip.

If Artanis survives he is most probably fakeclaiming scum, our cop should claim then to make sure we do not lynch wrongly, if he gets spared to give us a WIFOM-bomb to play around.


+ Show Spoiler +
On September 30 2012 12:26 ShiaoPi wrote:
okay I am up again time to get things rolling.
GG austin

With austin's flip we have some more information regarding the setup.
If anyone has been roleblocked this night, claim please, like immediately.
The setups are already narrowed down to 2 of the possible ones, while it may be a bit futile to discuss too much setup, it helps to know the exact one. If there is no roleblock I think we can assume the boxer/doc setup.


Now towards the stuff I said just before.
Phagga has been looking better in my opinion because of his long explanatory posts. At first they looked incredibly out of character but as he seems to be consistent within them, I am kind of backing down a bit on him now.
Looking at the replacement thread it seems as if SnB is going to be replaced, as soon as the replacement is in game please give out reads and thoughts as soon as possible since SnB's lack of activity hurts the ability to read him.


@Sinensis:
You seriously would have attempted a lynch on austin today? Please give me some details in how you came to the read of a thrawn/austin-scumteam during day 1. What did you make of the fact that austin would have had to be bussing in order to make your read work.
I also want to get a damn good explanation how you go from this gem here: + Show Spoiler +
On September 28 2012 19:17 Sinensis wrote:
@ShiaoPi: My case against austinmcc was kind of weak, but there had only been 3 pages of discussion up till that point and I wanted to get my initial thoughts out into the open because I thought they would be relevant. I even said when I voted him that I was only voting him till he responded, and we had a whole dialog that you're welcome to go back and read. The thread was dead so I decided to pursue what initial reads I had.

I have since changed my focus to Thrawn2112. I believe his incessant nitpicking of everyone's posts has been an effort to deflect attention from himself. I am not implying it is scummy to defend one's self, I am implying it is scummy to deflect blame. I have serious issues with his play.
towards your scumread on austin you just spewed out...here for reference again: + Show Spoiler +
On September 30 2012 11:49 Sinensis wrote:
Okay I'm caught up. First thoughts: austinmcc would have been my lynch candidate today if scum hadn't whacked him last night. For one, I was convinced thrawn was scum and I was convinced austinmcc was his scum buddy and that's what this was about:

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 05:14 austinmcc wrote:
Let's play a game maybe?

##Vote: phagga

Thrawn, see above. Why no suspicions on me, when I also wrote a case on you and expressed interest in voting you? Also, give phagga a look over, and try and get some thoughts on him out. I heard he's got 3 votes now and you haven't voted.

The suspense. The intrigue. Who will be lynched!?



Well none of that matters now so I'm back at square one as far as reads go. For everyone's notepads: based on what I have read, I would not have changed my vote from thrawn even if I had been in the thread. He did a bad job making himself look like town.


@iamperfection: You didn't even mention my name day 1, now I'm at the top of your reads day 2 just because I had to go to work? What made you change your mind about phagga? You never said?



Oh wait there is no explanation since you are scum, figures I guess. ##vote: Sinensis


@Iamperfection:
you say your best way to prove your innocence is to hunt scum. Then fucking do so instead of saying "wow those mia guys are bad --->scum".
I would be interested in why you think sinensis is scum, also flesh out your thoughts on SnB pleae instead of just saying he ain't around.




I can do that too

+ Show Spoiler +


On September 27 2012 21:46 Bluelightz wrote:
Okay, back from school, ate dinner and took a bath and so it's mafia time.

Suspicions

I'm currently interested in Ottoxlol and austinmcc.

austinmcc: He might be scum because he hasn't done ANY scum-hunting, just useless role discussion that won't get us anywhere unless there IS the role.

Ottoxlol: Has a suspicion on SnB, better then austinmcc, but the reason why?


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On September 27 2012 19:08 Ottoxlol wrote:
My take on SnB is that he really has to step up his game or I will vote him.

First he suggest a random lynch, he doesnt reply to why would anyone do that, then comes out with this "scum would freak out", I ask him why would they, he doesnt reply. Then says I am scum because I write short posts and doesnt contribute:

SnB, out of all the players why did you choose me? At that moment there was plenty of players with less or around the same content/posts as me. For example you had only one post (the last one, calling shiaopi and me out) other then the whole random lynch thing.


First reason, he points out why SnB is scum, but doesn't point out that the point he pointed out is neccesarily scummy. Second, completely unrelated with why SnB is scum, "why me? why lynch me?!". These points I think are scummy because this post feels like it's a post that want's to dodge giving information to town.

As well as, besides his suspicion post, his post's are all about Hammering etc, and they are truly short. This point is scummy because he's just spending time posting useless post's that won't help finding and killing scum.




Out of the both, austinmcc seems more likely to be town then Ottox to me.

##FoS: austinmcc and Ottoxlol

On September 29 2012 01:12 Bluelightz wrote:
@ShiaoPi My current scum read is primarily on Sinensis and phagga, explanations:

On Sinensis, I can see his reasoning before his thrawn vote, but his thrawn vote is what makes me think he's scum.
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 14:05 Sinensis wrote:
That's not a response, that's a bunch of semi sarcastic questions; half of which you answered yourself. No thanks.

##Vote: Thrawn2112

I'm keeping my vote here for now. I'd like to see what everyone else thinks too.

He bases his vote on responses, but the problem is he didn't show why thrawn's response is scummy (or explain his points on thrawn's response).




On phagga, I think he's scum because after he votes Ottox, he doesn't make any effort to convince others of Ottox's scumminess besides asking Sinensis on his stance on Ottox and clarifying why he thinks Ottox is scum, then what? He unvotes Ottox and doesn't post anything else.

Also I think he is scum because he keeps on dropping useless stuff here and there, comments near the bolded part.

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On September 28 2012 05:27 phagga wrote:
-snip-

You clearly shouldn't write posts when you're hungry. <--- WHAT USE IS THIS?

Also, I never said he is scum because he is afraid. I meant to say that he should not be afraid of getting lynched as town, because if you are town and play without fear, people will often recognize it and not lynch you.

The reason I voted him was more austins case and the fact that I feel that Ottoxlol is merely trying to blend in instead of helping town.

(in case you didn't notice yet, I'm they guy you're FOSing).

Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 00:33 phagga wrote:
On September 27 2012 23:29 iamperfection wrote:
Actually you know what i don't think town members try to make links between players on day one like you blatantly did.

## Vote Thrawn


You want that vote to count? Than you better write his name right. <----- Isn't he smart enough to notice?


@thrawn, the problem with your analysis of a possible connection of sinensis and s&b is that you are making a lot of assumptions. It's not wrong to do that, but it's just quite a stretch because we do not have that much info available yet.

@austinmc, you have only been talking setup so far. Any thoughts on iamps vote on thrawn? Any thoughts on other players?


@Ottoxlol, you just sound afraid to get lynched, which should not really be a problem when you're town. This post stands out:

On September 27 2012 19:08 Ottoxlol wrote:
My take on SnB is that he really has to step up his game or I will vote him.

First he suggest a random lynch, he doesnt reply to why would anyone do that, then comes out with this "scum would freak out", I ask him why would they, he doesnt reply. Then says I am scum because I write short posts and doesnt contribute:

SnB, out of all the players why did you choose me? At that moment there was plenty of players with less or around the same content/posts as me. For example you had only one post (the last one, calling shiaopi and me out) other then the whole random lynch thing.


When I compare this with your play in LVII where you furiously defended your idea although several people started to calling a vig on you, then you're behaviour this game seems off.



Oh, and while reading his filter, this is my weakest point,

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 00:16 phagga wrote:
On September 26 2012 06:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
sup. how about that LoL? I fear we may all be out of a job soon

On September 26 2012 06:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
i would be down for rando lynch

i will flip a coin.

heads it's me, and tails it's you?

On September 26 2012 11:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
most boring start to a mafia game i've been a part of yet. at least we're not spending forever talking about lurkers tho

who wants me to write walls of text barf text this game? don't test me, i'll do it.

On September 26 2012 23:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah but I'd assume that goes without saying



So much for talking about "useless shit". Also I was trying to shut the discussion about time zones down immediatly.

Meanwhile all you have done (besides the quotes above) is talking about hammering someone, and you are just echoing others. How about you start contributing some?


This seems like overkill, because if you look at (my) post before, this is just the exactly same thing.




Final verdict:

I'm more confident of phagga flipping scum then Sinensis, who I have some doubts.

##Vote: phagga

On October 02 2012 01:14 Bluelightz wrote:
Okay let's look over why the fuck people voted thrawn, disregarding phagga because he claimed BoxeR and I believe that claim.

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 23:29 iamperfection wrote:
Actually you know what i don't think town members try to make links between players on day one like you blatantly did.

## Vote Thrawn

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On September 28 2012 08:34 Ottoxlol wrote:
@SnB then I don't understand random lynch at all. I thought it is like we go to a random website roll 1-8 then put our votes in-> ofc scum wont do it properly so there is much less chance to lynch them


My case on thrawn:

On September 28 2012 07:32 Ottoxlol wrote:

thrawn you posted a lot of useless things and lied when you voted me:
On September 28 2012 06:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
##Vote Ottoxlol

Alright otto that is 3 votes against you. You've been accused of giving a bad defense and it was, it was more of a deflection than a defense. You've also been accused of not giving your full read on snb earlier and that was also true. So if snb is your top scumread can you give all the reasons why, and if he's not your top read / you're just waiting on his response or whatever, then who else looks scummy and why?


The bolded part is not true at all, you are the first to come up with, others accused me with WAITING to vote as the biggest sin in an instant lynch game (LOL), my second post was about it and shortly after I posted
On September 27 2012 19:08 Ottoxlol wrote:
My take on SnB is that he really has to step up his game or I will vote him.

First he suggest a random lynch, he doesnt reply to why would anyone do that, then comes out with this "scum would freak out", I ask him why would they, he doesnt reply. Then says I am scum because I write short posts and doesnt contribute:

SnB, out of all the players why did you choose me? At that moment there was plenty of players with less or around the same content/posts as me. For example you had only one post (the last one, calling shiaopi and me out) other then the whole random lynch thing.


Where in the hell did you get this "You've also been accused of not giving your full read on snb earlier and that was also true.? "


His response:
On September 28 2012 07:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
On September 28 2012 07:45 Ottoxlol wrote:
On September 28 2012 07:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
It was from when you didn't want to answer a question about him until he responded to your question


quote pls?


lol do you really not know what I'm talking about?

On September 28 2012 00:32 Ottoxlol wrote:
On September 28 2012 00:30 Bluelightz wrote:
On September 28 2012 00:26 Ottoxlol wrote:
I am suspicious about SnB mainly because he still did not answer why would scum freak out at random lynch. Maybe I am wrong but I asked him to explain it to me: I see random lynch as an advantage of scum and he suggested it in the first place. Also I have the same problem with his fos on me that was with your vote, I would like to read why me over the others mentioned. I won't vote for him atm, but looking forward to his explanation.


Then who will you vote for?


I will wait for him to post, then we will see


You are asked who you will vote for, as in, who do you think is the scummiest. This is at a time when snb was who you were talking about. Your response was that you were waiting on snb to reply before you could answer the question.


I gave my full read on SnB, explained why I did not vote at the moment, the first bolded part is where he lies about it, the second and third he wrote in the same post! Don't let him get away with this please

##Vote thrawn2112

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On September 28 2012 14:05 Sinensis wrote:
That's not a response, that's a bunch of semi sarcastic questions; half of which you answered yourself. No thanks.

##Vote: Thrawn2112

I'm keeping my vote here for now. I'd like to see what everyone else thinks too.

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 01:20 strongandbig wrote:
Okay so I retread Otto and thrawn's filters again.
I want to think otto is scum because I feel like "getting pissed because the case against you is bad or badly expressed" is usually a scum tell. Scum get mad because "they don't deserve to find me like that"
Townies get mad because "why won't they listen to me they're just being stubborn or having confirmation bias" but that usually only comes after they make a defense.
So fos for that on Otto.

But the thing is the rest of his filter doesn't feel scummy to me. He stuck with his suspicion of me but didn't over exaggerate it when I was posting weird and shitty stuff. And his stuff on the random lynch seemed retarded and purposely obtuse but when I retread it assuming he actually thought a random lynch meant "everyone randomize their vote" it is actually consistent.

In summary: Otto you need to post more and I don't like your reaction to pressure but at this point I don't want to lynch you.


So here's who I do want to lynch - thrawn.

This was the first time I read his filter all the way through, and I noticed two trends - lack of follow through and jumping reads. Look at his attacks on me and on Otto. He asks me about shiaopi and I just completely blow him off on account of not actually having read his post. But the thing is, he didn't push me on it except for a side comment at some point, because he'd moved on to Otto. Then he jumps to sinensis without actually explaining why his read on Otto changed, except that people were jumping off of Otto at that point.

So I think we should lunch thrawn.

I don't think we should no lynch. Unless I'm doing the math wrong, all that buys us is another no lunch. Yes that gives us extra time, but it also pretty much lets scum hand pick who is alive at lylo, it's not worth it.

So ##vote: thrawn2112



Out of them all, okay, I single out s&b, he has quite a lot of analysis behind his vote, miles better then the others. Let's move on to the other..... one liner reasons! cheers its one-liner christmas!.




Sinensis
"That's not a response, that's a bunch of semi sarcastic questions; half of which you answered yourself. No thanks."

This is what I think of it

A(thrawn): Answer this question
B(Sinensis): The questions have been answered by you OMG, some of them are sarcastic too! I'll never answer these questions and possibly provide information to town!

But, what does Sinensis do AFTER his vote? Oh, nothing! He doesn't help push his scum read, he doesn't make an attempt to look over thrawn, he doesn't make an attempt to give valuable information by way of scummy points to town.




iamP:

Besides his vote post, like Sinensis but some pushing to convince people to vote thrawn, he only says that thrawn is scummy BECAUSE he made "associative crap", he doesn't explain why "associative crap" is bad on day 1, he only says it is bad.




Last but not least, Ottox:

"I did this and that, he lied about this, dont let him get away", I feel this is a underwhelming explanation, because of the fact that LAL is not reliable because we have no facts (on day 1), he has nothing to base the supposed "lies" on (although the "lies" are about...... oh he did this, but thrawn said he did that). I don't think that's a scummy point (misinterpreting post's) because it's not like everybody understands what Ottox posted or what Ottox meant to post. Also, besides this, he doesn't push thrawn, AT ALL {Jumps in the wagon (I think) and sits back and let other's do the pushing}.




Conclusion, I am very sure that the last 2 scum are between Ottox, iamP, and Sinensis. But right now, my firmest read is on Ottox.

##Vote: Ottoxlol
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 03 2012 16:14 GMT
#511
@ottox:
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY BUSSING???? Stop dodging
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
October 03 2012 16:15 GMT
#512
On October 04 2012 01:09 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 01:04 kushm4sta wrote:
@bluelightz
OK I will try to clarify my thoughts on ottoxlol:
More than just ottox is guilty of AFKing. You are guilty of it during certain parts of the game. So that's a null read as far as I'm concerned.

His last minute vote: null. I could definitely see town doing what he did. Time was almost up and he did it to prevent a no lynch. A no-lynch in those circumstances seems like it would have been pretty bad.


AFKing when I sleep is considered lurking I guess.


Oh, and Mafia is obviously more important than school.
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Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
October 03 2012 16:17 GMT
#513
What dodging? I already said 3 times. You made a bad case and iamp jumped on then you suspect him for jumping and voting with little to no real threat to him or you or sinensis at that moment.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
October 03 2012 16:19 GMT
#514
On October 04 2012 01:17 Ottoxlol wrote:
What dodging? I already said 3 times. You made a bad case and iamp jumped on then you suspect him for jumping and voting with little to no real threat to him or you or sinensis at that moment.


ShiaoPi: "Why do you think me and iamP are trying to bus Sinensis in your post???"

Is that the question?
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 03 2012 16:19 GMT
#515
No, you are still circling around my question regarding how you came to 3 scumreads and what made all 3 of us scum to be bussing sinensis at that moment. Your wording directly contradicts your nullread on sinensis.

Also if you were not that focused on BL and if SnB cared we might have lynched sinensis, he had 2 votes for the most of the day
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 03 2012 16:20 GMT
#516
^yeah ottox answer this question please.

@bluelightz What exactly is the rest of your case against ottox?
Getting on bandwagons but not pushing them? Last case you made was regarding thrawn. You said ottox got on the thrawn bandwagon but didn't push it.
But he made a case, asked thrawn questions, and followed up when he thought answers weren't sufficient.
That is in his post here:
On September 28 2012 08:34 Ottoxlol wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
@SnB then I don't understand random lynch at all. I thought it is like we go to a random website roll 1-8 then put our votes in-> ofc scum wont do it properly so there is much less chance to lynch them


My case on thrawn:

Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 07:32 Ottoxlol wrote:

thrawn you posted a lot of useless things and lied when you voted me:
On September 28 2012 06:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
##Vote Ottoxlol

Alright otto that is 3 votes against you. You've been accused of giving a bad defense and it was, it was more of a deflection than a defense. You've also been accused of not giving your full read on snb earlier and that was also true. So if snb is your top scumread can you give all the reasons why, and if he's not your top read / you're just waiting on his response or whatever, then who else looks scummy and why?


The bolded part is not true at all, you are the first to come up with, others accused me with WAITING to vote as the biggest sin in an instant lynch game (LOL), my second post was about it and shortly after I posted
On September 27 2012 19:08 Ottoxlol wrote:
My take on SnB is that he really has to step up his game or I will vote him.

First he suggest a random lynch, he doesnt reply to why would anyone do that, then comes out with this "scum would freak out", I ask him why would they, he doesnt reply. Then says I am scum because I write short posts and doesnt contribute:

SnB, out of all the players why did you choose me? At that moment there was plenty of players with less or around the same content/posts as me. For example you had only one post (the last one, calling shiaopi and me out) other then the whole random lynch thing.


Where in the hell did you get this "You've also been accused of not giving your full read on snb earlier and that was also true.? "


His response:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 07:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
On September 28 2012 07:45 Ottoxlol wrote:
On September 28 2012 07:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
It was from when you didn't want to answer a question about him until he responded to your question


quote pls?


lol do you really not know what I'm talking about?

On September 28 2012 00:32 Ottoxlol wrote:
On September 28 2012 00:30 Bluelightz wrote:
On September 28 2012 00:26 Ottoxlol wrote:
I am suspicious about SnB mainly because he still did not answer why would scum freak out at random lynch. Maybe I am wrong but I asked him to explain it to me: I see random lynch as an advantage of scum and he suggested it in the first place. Also I have the same problem with his fos on me that was with your vote, I would like to read why me over the others mentioned. I won't vote for him atm, but looking forward to his explanation.


Then who will you vote for?


I will wait for him to post, then we will see


You are asked who you will vote for, as in, who do you think is the scummiest. This is at a time when snb was who you were talking about. Your response was that you were waiting on snb to reply before you could answer the question.


I gave my full read on SnB, explained why I did not vote at the moment, the first bolded part is where he lies about it, the second and third he wrote in the same post! Don't let him get away with this please

##Vote thrawn2112

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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 03 2012 16:20 GMT
#517
On October 04 2012 01:19 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 01:17 Ottoxlol wrote:
What dodging? I already said 3 times. You made a bad case and iamp jumped on then you suspect him for jumping and voting with little to no real threat to him or you or sinensis at that moment.


ShiaoPi: "Why do you think me and iamP are trying to bus Sinensis in your post???"

Is that the question?


The question is why did he use the word bus, it implies 3 scumreads in the context and he said that sinensis is null earlier and still does btw.
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Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
October 03 2012 16:24 GMT
#518
obviously i didnt mean 3 scum :DD ok i can see what do you see in this, unfortunate wording. call it a scumslip and lynch me, im sure Bl would love to vote me so its gg, how could i have meant 3 scum?
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
October 03 2012 16:24 GMT
#519
On October 04 2012 01:20 kushm4sta wrote:
^yeah ottox answer this question please.

@bluelightz What exactly is the rest of your case against ottox?
Getting on bandwagons but not pushing them? Last case you made was regarding thrawn. You said ottox got on the thrawn bandwagon but didn't push it.
But he made a case, asked thrawn questions, and followed up when he thought answers weren't sufficient.
That is in his post here:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 08:34 Ottoxlol wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
@SnB then I don't understand random lynch at all. I thought it is like we go to a random website roll 1-8 then put our votes in-> ofc scum wont do it properly so there is much less chance to lynch them


My case on thrawn:

Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 07:32 Ottoxlol wrote:

thrawn you posted a lot of useless things and lied when you voted me:
On September 28 2012 06:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
##Vote Ottoxlol

Alright otto that is 3 votes against you. You've been accused of giving a bad defense and it was, it was more of a deflection than a defense. You've also been accused of not giving your full read on snb earlier and that was also true. So if snb is your top scumread can you give all the reasons why, and if he's not your top read / you're just waiting on his response or whatever, then who else looks scummy and why?


The bolded part is not true at all, you are the first to come up with, others accused me with WAITING to vote as the biggest sin in an instant lynch game (LOL), my second post was about it and shortly after I posted
On September 27 2012 19:08 Ottoxlol wrote:
My take on SnB is that he really has to step up his game or I will vote him.

First he suggest a random lynch, he doesnt reply to why would anyone do that, then comes out with this "scum would freak out", I ask him why would they, he doesnt reply. Then says I am scum because I write short posts and doesnt contribute:

SnB, out of all the players why did you choose me? At that moment there was plenty of players with less or around the same content/posts as me. For example you had only one post (the last one, calling shiaopi and me out) other then the whole random lynch thing.


Where in the hell did you get this "You've also been accused of not giving your full read on snb earlier and that was also true.? "


His response:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 07:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
On September 28 2012 07:45 Ottoxlol wrote:
On September 28 2012 07:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
It was from when you didn't want to answer a question about him until he responded to your question


quote pls?


lol do you really not know what I'm talking about?

On September 28 2012 00:32 Ottoxlol wrote:
On September 28 2012 00:30 Bluelightz wrote:
On September 28 2012 00:26 Ottoxlol wrote:
I am suspicious about SnB mainly because he still did not answer why would scum freak out at random lynch. Maybe I am wrong but I asked him to explain it to me: I see random lynch as an advantage of scum and he suggested it in the first place. Also I have the same problem with his fos on me that was with your vote, I would like to read why me over the others mentioned. I won't vote for him atm, but looking forward to his explanation.


Then who will you vote for?


I will wait for him to post, then we will see


You are asked who you will vote for, as in, who do you think is the scummiest. This is at a time when snb was who you were talking about. Your response was that you were waiting on snb to reply before you could answer the question.


I gave my full read on SnB, explained why I did not vote at the moment, the first bolded part is where he lies about it, the second and third he wrote in the same post! Don't let him get away with this please

##Vote thrawn2112



kushm4sta spouts crapton of points on why Ottox is townie.

kushm4sta fails to explain why said points are townie points.

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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 03 2012 16:25 GMT
#520
@Ottox:
so that is the answer? lol
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