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On October 02 2012 08:21 Mattchew wrote:
BC mind telling me why you think i am scum?
also, I could get down with an austin lynch. he doesn't feel like he is hunting scum as much as he is hunting for an easy out to vote.
I am willing to ##unvote for the meantime. I am caught up on the thread but don't actually understand some of the arguments.
Posts rub me the wrong way and I want to see more out of you. Its why I don't want to lynch you at this time as well as i could easily be wrong.
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On October 02 2012 02:10 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 02:01 austinmcc wrote:
I'm voting KJ. Spies aren't mentioned anywhere. Could be third party, could be the scum team, we don't know.
All I know is that's 100% not town, "spy reads."
##Vote: kingjames01 Maybe you can actually try a little bit and put together a real reason to waste your vote. This is just silly. This is your filter this game and so far you haven't done anything worthwhile: austinmcc's filter
We should keep up the pressure on austinmcc. I was the one of the first to point it out so I don't mind repeating it. His game was very lackluster and his reason for lynching me was just an excuse to waste a vote.
Keep an eye on this guy.
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@Risk
On October 02 2012 07:47 risk.nuke wrote:
The guy clearly had insight in what's going on so I'm making the assumption that he's been following the thread. And when a player lurk hard with that kind of first and only post I'm getting pretty damn suspicious he's discussing the game elsewhere.
Yes. I told you, I got up early to make a post. I spent an hour going through filters and writing that post.
Anyways, I'm not talking any more about anything even related to my previous activity level, it's pointless.
So, onto the important stuff.
On Austin: Austin seems quite scummy to me, with almost all of his posts having been focused on KJ using "spy" instead of scum. I agree that it threw me at first, and I was pretty suspicious because of it (see my earlier post). That was his only bit of scum hunting though, was going after him for saying spy. Yes, he unvoted him after that, but never tried to pick up on anyone else after. He asks for opinions about Shady and Kush's play, but doesn't feel the need to write a word about them in return.
I'm giving him leeway for now because Marv said that his play thus far has been according to his meta, and that's something I'll trust him about. If his posting doesn't improve by day 2 though, I think he'd be looking like a nice target to lynch.
@everyone
Can someone please tell me if Risk is usually this agressive? I've never played with him before, but he seems kind of off the rails at this point. I'm suspicious of him, but especially since his last post I'm thinking that he just gets really emotional when he plays.
On Risk:
You just kind of suggest a lynch on Kush without explaining or even mentioning suspicions of him. Then you make a post about KJ and vote Shady, again without explaining or even mentioning suspicions of him. Then your case on me is entirely "I assume he's been following the thread". THat's it. THe end. You took no exception with anything I said, didn't see anything wrong or misinterepreted, taken out of context or distorted to call me out on. You just said "Hey, he made a long post as his first post. Scum for sure". Apparently so scummy that you would prefer to drop Shady, KJ and Kush all just to lynch me if more people were around.
At this point, I think you're scum. I'd love to be wrong, if you can link me to some of your past games, that'd be great. Maybe this just is standard to how you play, and someone will let me know, but I think you're scummy.
##vote Risk.Nuke
I'll have another post up either at or a little after the night post, with reads on a few more people.
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I'm considering just replacing the lurkers/shitposters. basically my point of view is that if there's someone out there who would care about this game more than you why shouldn't I replace? I won't do anything like this after day 2 cuz its too much to ask people to catch up
Anyway, don't pm me with suggestions on who to replace or anything, I'll come to that conclusion on my own
And if you want to be considered for replacement (not currently playing) let me know
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To BC and marv, I'm not suggesting that "spy" is a role. Look at my posts:On October 02 2012 01:14 austinmcc wrote:Working on catching up. Did I absolutely miss this being discussed besides someone calling it a spy slip? People have QUOTED this post and not seemed to be concerned by this: Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 11:39 kingjames01 wrote:
So what we're shifting towards is whether Shady's 'plan' to preempt trolling was legitimate or a cover-up?
That should not be the focus of our first day. Instead, I'd like Shady to come back to the thread and give us something more concrete.
Shady: what do you think about the assertion that I was being wishy-washy? Also, tell us if you have a spy read on anyone yet, who and why.
There's nothing in the OP about spy roles.There's nothing in the opening flavor about spy roles. There's nothing about spies ANYWHERE. Spies a neutral faction and KJ part of it?
On October 02 2012 02:01 austinmcc wrote:
I'm voting KJ. Spies aren't mentioned anywhere. Could be third party, could be the scum team, we don't know.
All I know is that's 100% not town, "spy reads."
##Vote: kingjames01
I'm not suggesting there's a role that is "spy." I specifically note that spy isn't a role in the OP. Nor would it make sense to ask for "spy reads" if spy were a role, I've never seen anyone ask another person for "DT reads" or "medic reads."
On October 02 2012 05:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 05:27 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2012 05:19 talismania wrote:
Lol Marv said this was his normal meta? He should know better than that. This is VE after all. I'm more curious what VE himself says. "Interesting" is not what I expected.
Austin so why'd you make it then? Do you see how it looks like you were basically looking for an excuse to hop on a wagon? I made it because he wrote the word SPIES. That word doesn't appear ANYWHERE in this game. Same as...q-bertz or whoever writing the word "mole" in bureaucracy. If you know something about a role that nobody knows EXISTS yet, then you're not town. Spies doesn't exist, he mentions spy reads, therefore he's not town. Turns out spies exist in some similar game, as a normal thing that people know about. -_- if you read the OP you would clearly see above the roles that all in the game are included but details of them are not known. If their was a role with the name of spy everyone would know about it just not what it does. You jumping on him for something that is obviously not a role and wanting to lynch screams to me "i found a powerrole, lets lynch it" You have a horrible reason for jumping on KJ and it screams desperate for a reason to lynch him. The bit about the mole was meant as an analogy to bureaucracy, because that's the only other time I've seen this done. YES, I said spy = role in that explanation post. However, that explanation post comes way after a vote where I note that spies aren't a role in the OP, which is why I note that it may be the scum faction or a third party faction. Calling it a role in the explanation was just crappy word choice.
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I want to lynch RISEN because these 2 quotes seem like they are written from the scum perspective. This whole topic of.conversation reads like 1 big scumslip from him.
On October 01 2012 23:56 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 13:57 Risen wrote:
Hi guys. Not posting is boring as shit. Tried it in the caller game. Was never a lynch target, but I didn't have any fun, either. So I guess you'll be getting high post count Risen. Objective is as usual, don't rage the fuck out. Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 16:44 Risen wrote:On October 01 2012 03:38 kushm4sta wrote:On September 30 2012 13:57 Risen wrote:
Hi guys. Not posting is boring as shit. Tried it in the caller game. Was never a lynch target, but I didn't have any fun, either. So I guess you'll be getting high post count Risen. Objective is as usual, don't rage the fuck out. From this quote it seems strategically beneficial for scum to be semi lurkers. Unrelated and seemingly contradicting what I just said, ##FOS Risen. Why are you even thinking about what playstyle will keep you from getting lynched? Because apparently that's how you should play as town. I've been doing it wrong since day 1. The point isn't to win, it's to avoid getting lynched as town. Also, I feel like I'm invisible... Let me revisit one of my FOSes. These two quotes seem like they are coming from a scum perspective. To Risen, lurkers are an easy way to not get lynched. To me, lurkers are an easy way for scum to hide.
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United Kingdom36160 Posts
That post isn't helping you not be useless though is it austin
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Alright lets go through the current vote candidates:
Shady Sands:
I put a placeholder vote on shady because he is the best lynch candidate currently being voted for in my opinion. He did his trolling thing, which can't be indicative of alignment because it was said Pre PM, however people could do this for an out as scum. His whole trolling explanation seems a bit off, but similar "plans" have been done as town before. The real problem is how he says "I am back in the thread gotta read" Then basically defends himself, and says "see kush troll and leaves"
One of his votes was done in troll mode, and the other was because Zboson voted him for trolling. He hasn't given a read or posted since.
However, he never actually voted in vote thread so is on schedule to be modkilled.
kingjames01:
I feel like a lot of the case on him was based on people saying he slipped spy. Not only is this role not in the role list, he further explained himself from evidence from another thread. The fact that so many people voting him without even checking the setup or just being ignorant to the fact makes me think he is town. He got caught up defending himself on the whole contrived bit, which was stupid, but why would scum spend so much time obviously posting about nothing to explain themselves. He called me out, and hell I would have too because I usual am much more active day 1, and wasn't at the time.
kushm4sta:
Originally thought he was scum, but after this post:
On October 01 2012 23:33 marvellosity wrote:kush as townie: Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 18:47 kushm4sta wrote:
So it seems like the consensus is to lynch either cubu or kville. Anyone not feel this way?
Even if they aren't mafia they are solid policy lynches.
Now the question is which one.
Kville is the bigger lurker, but I think there is a higher possibility for cubu to actually be mafia.
Honestly cubu probably isn't mafia either, just because I think mafia would put more effort into their posts. Lynching one of these guys is better than lynching someone who is active though. So my vote is still on cubu. Will vote for policy lynches just fine, check Calls Cubu probably not mafia but is happy to have his vote on him, check
He also admitted he doesn't give a shit about logic, which shows in almost all of his posts. Another one of those players I guess.
VisceraEyes:
Making cases on multiple people and all over the place. Seems like typical day 1 VE to me.
Now to search for scum since shady sands most likely will be modkilled.
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On October 02 2012 08:32 marvellosity wrote:
That post isn't helping you not be useless though is it austin
That one's not intended to make me not useless. That one's intended to show that no, I didn't think "spy" was a role.
Aperture's lynch was earlier. I needed to put time into that first. Now I can put time into this.
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##Unvote
##Vote austinmcc
I'm not sure if this is where my vote will stay, but it's the one I'm most confident in at the moment.
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austinmcc: Don't let people pull you into a drawn-out fight. What are your reads so far? You haven't posted an analysis on anyone after you unvoted me.
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United Kingdom36160 Posts
Trudging through a couple filters :/ BC (or anyone who played with him), what do you make of annul? Looking at his filter I get blablabla pointlessness and his final post being:
On October 01 2012 23:03 annul wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 13:18 kushm4sta wrote:On October 01 2012 13:08 mkfuba07 wrote:
I feel like I'm missing something significant here... He's a lynch I can feel good about even if he flips green. holy shit, seriously? what an easy decision. ##vote kushm4sta
before abandoning the thread. It's a weak as shit vote and pays no heed to anything said about kush before or after that point. Otherwise known as a scummy copout.
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Tossed my vote on Austin for what should be obvious reasons given the posting the last few pages.
As for annul Marvel. My personal belief is that he is always a good vig shot. His mafia play is infuriating to deal with, and his town can be either really good or really bad depending on the game. If we have a ton of reasons to lynch him then lynch otherwise I'd let a vig sort it out. If he doesn't start contributing soon I'd put him on the lynch list.
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ebwop
By contributing I mean into day 2 of the game. Or late into night 1.
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On October 02 2012 08:38 marvellosity wrote:Trudging through a couple filters :/ BC (or anyone who played with him), what do you make of annul? Looking at his filter I get blablabla pointlessness and his final post being: Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 23:03 annul wrote:On October 01 2012 13:18 kushm4sta wrote:On October 01 2012 13:08 mkfuba07 wrote:
I feel like I'm missing something significant here... He's a lynch I can feel good about even if he flips green. holy shit, seriously? what an easy decision. ##vote kushm4sta before abandoning the thread. It's a weak as shit vote and pays no heed to anything said about kush before or after that point. Otherwise known as a scummy copout.
This is a good point. With annul it's kind of hard to tell usually. Sometimes mafia annul gets through the early days by flying under the radar and showing up every now and then to vote.
If it continues, then I would be very wary of trusting anything he says because he is really good at amplifying flaws in logical arguments.
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On October 02 2012 08:32 kushm4sta wrote:I want to lynch RISEN because these 2 quotes seem like they are written from the scum perspective. This whole topic of.conversation reads like 1 big scumslip from him. Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 23:56 kushm4sta wrote:On September 30 2012 13:57 Risen wrote:
Hi guys. Not posting is boring as shit. Tried it in the caller game. Was never a lynch target, but I didn't have any fun, either. So I guess you'll be getting high post count Risen. Objective is as usual, don't rage the fuck out. On October 01 2012 16:44 Risen wrote:On October 01 2012 03:38 kushm4sta wrote:On September 30 2012 13:57 Risen wrote:
Hi guys. Not posting is boring as shit. Tried it in the caller game. Was never a lynch target, but I didn't have any fun, either. So I guess you'll be getting high post count Risen. Objective is as usual, don't rage the fuck out. From this quote it seems strategically beneficial for scum to be semi lurkers. Unrelated and seemingly contradicting what I just said, ##FOS Risen. Why are you even thinking about what playstyle will keep you from getting lynched? Because apparently that's how you should play as town. I've been doing it wrong since day 1. The point isn't to win, it's to avoid getting lynched as town. Also, I feel like I'm invisible... Let me revisit one of my FOSes. These two quotes seem like they are coming from a scum perspective. To Risen, lurkers are an easy way to not get lynched. To me, lurkers are an easy way for scum to hide.
You don't know what a scumslip is.
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Ugh, too much screwing meta. I don't really want to lynch austin because I know he can be totally useless day 1 as here, and others don't want to lynch the pretty scummy annul because they want to wait and see.
Why do you think austin has a higher chance of flipping scum than annul, BC?
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On October 02 2012 08:44 marvellosity wrote:
Ugh, too much screwing meta. I don't really want to lynch austin because I know he can be totally useless day 1 as here, and others don't want to lynch the pretty scummy annul because they want to wait and see.
Why do you think austin has a higher chance of flipping scum than annul, BC?
Austin did what I think is insanely weird play and jumped out at me as scummy whereas annul has only done things that leap out and scream annul. He is one of the few people I find extremely hard to read and always have.
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