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talismania
United States2364 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
GG keirathi and bluelightz, be more active in the future. Seriously. If you have a read, fucking push it. If you think someone is town, post. Also THE ZEPHIRDD RULE IS FUCKING TRUE | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On September 14 2012 09:00 Zephirdd wrote: THE ZEPHIRDD RULE IS FUCKING TRUE Rofl | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
except that claiming to be roleblocked is like THE move for a scum team to make on this setup. I'm a moron lol | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18320 Posts
On September 14 2012 07:15 Keirathi wrote: GG everyone! This was my first scum game, and I had a lot of fun. Some post-game thoughts: 1) I don't think I did anything particularly amazing this game. I just focused on not making any obvious mistakes, and looking better than any potential lynch targets. 2) It was really dumb of me not to notice Zeph's crumb n1. I was talking with marv a bit about it after he died, and I think I realized why I didn't catch it. As weird as it sounds, I literally played this whole game with the mindset that I was town. I scoured filters, checked meta, did whatever I needed to do to make a case. I even caught myself a few times thinking "So, if so-and-so flips scum, I can link him to so-and-so." The good thing (for me), was that playing like that made my meta pretty similar to my town meta, IMO (which could be bad, in hindsight. I might start getting mislynched as town now!). The side effect to that town mentality, was that when I read Zeph's crumb post, I had the exact same reaction that Ange had: I marked it down as something scummy that I could use to pressure him. I spent more time reading posts from the context of "What's scummy about this?" than I did from the mindset of "Why would a townie say that?". I did specifically go back and look through all the night posts for a medic crumb, but Zeph's post still didn't stick out. Really bad of me, but thankfully it didn't come back to bite me in the ass. + Show Spoiler + 3) Not RB'ing anyone n1 was extremely risky, and probably a bad decision 9 times out of 10. But I didn't have any blue reads, and I still thought of everyone alive as lynch bait and didn't want to give them even the smallest amount of town cred with a claim that they were RB'd. 4) RB claim might buy someone BotD for a day, but when it's LYLO you really need to go back and evaluate if they were lying about it. But by that point, I already had enough town cred and influence built up, that Zeph (and marv, FWIW) came to the conclusion that I wasn't lying. 5) Something I'm mildly suprised no one picked up on: I called Risen out day 1 for having 6 people (out of 8) as part of his "Lynch order list". Except, during N1, I made a case on 3 people (prplhz, Zeph, and vader), and had pressure posts against marv and BL, too. So, I had varying degrees of cases on 5 out of the 7 people who were alive besides me. 6) Risen: any copying of your opinions was honestly entirely unintentional  7) vader being medic was extremely unfortunate for you guys. Basically the whole setup revolved around the medic  If vader hadn't been the medic, or marv (who I was still planning to shoot n2), me and prplhz would have been in a pickle. I was honestly worried we were going to lose the game up until vader claimed medic.Oh, and: On September 12 2012 06:31 Zephirdd wrote: Dirkzor, I too have. On this kind of setup, using a roleblock on a town player will not only confirm the setup for players but also make that player look good. However, Keirathi would deserve a mafia player of the century if his play so far was made from a scum perspective in my opinion. He's been constructive, he's been making ton of sense, and he's been showing a lot of stuff other town players don't realize. Hell, I'd argue I would have been roleblocked if he was scum, because he noticed my breadcumb really early. Besides, it's not hard to imagine that he would be a blue if you think of his day 1 play. I had a green read on him at least, and instantly thought he was telling the truth when claiming RB. That made me chuckle. Thanks <3 GG again, and look forward to playing with you guys more! I always try that as scum (and sometimes also think that way about flips). It's a lot harder than it looks. I didn't read the game, but seems like you aced it. Good job! | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On September 14 2012 09:05 Zephirdd wrote: ugh I should have picked bluelightz was town, but for some reason keirathi didn't make sense to be scum. except that claiming to be roleblocked is like THE move for a scum team to make on this setup. I'm a moron lol Meh, you played fine. You only claimed when you had to, and had a credible crumb to back it up. Literally no one pegged me for scum. Not in the game, nor in Obs QT. (Well, BL was right at the end, but for terrible reasons. The only reason I was scum to him was an associative tell with a townie. Flip Dirk, and he had no case against me at all.) | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
Edit: This isn't meant to be taken in a "you're horrible players" way. (You are) This should be taken in a "why the fuck sign up for a mafia game and then go unactive" way. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 14 2012 10:08 Risen wrote: Fuck town. Fuck all of you. <3 | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
The post where you answered my question was legit, but I had little time to analyze it at the time. When I read back I realized you were answering stuff correctly. I shouldn't have lynched you ever ever ever sry TT | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
Keir you're awesome man. Edit: I'd like to add that my scum reads diverged towards the end b/c townies were just that bad. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On September 14 2012 10:48 Risen wrote: Don't even get me started on how everyone in this game has the reading comprehension of a 2 year old. Keir you're awesome man. Haha, wait. Are you saying that I have the reading comprehension of a 2 year old, or that I am awesome? Or maybe an awesome 2 year old!? | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 14 2012 10:55 Keirathi wrote: Haha, wait. Are you saying that I have the reading comprehension of a 2 year old, or that I am awesome? Or maybe an awesome 2 year old!? No, town has the reading comprehension of a 2 year old. You are just awesome for how you played this game. You took advantage of a stupid town by claiming you were RB'd, and while to any competent town in this setup it wouldn't be alignment indicative, it somehow confirmed you as town. On top of this you were the most active/useful person in the game after me, and if scum is posting more usefully than town, something is wrong. For some reason lynching the most active player seemed like a good idea to town, but then lynching the second most active didn't. I really thought it was you/prpl early on, but then v7 and dirk pulled their inane nonsense and I got all fucked up in the head. Add onto this Zeph with the question that somehow made me scum even though I answered it perfectly fine? This game came down to town being at the level of a trash can, prpl being about equally as bad, and you doing very well. I'd like to see you as scum against some semi-competent townies, I think you'd still do just as well as you did this game. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
), which I think is a big reason that I've never been lynched. Granted, I've only played 6 games so far, but still unlynched up to this point.I don't think the RB itself confirmed me as town, but when you add in that I was being active and "useful", people just started believing that there was very little chance I was lying. Especially after Dirk? Zeph? said he wouldn't be suprised if it was an attempt to actually hit a blue after my day 1 play. Also, I would have made my case against you regardless of alignment (sorry!). As a town, that one post about the bussing and convoluted logic would have set my scum senses tingling. Like I said, I was reading each post with my townie mentality. The key difference is that as a townie, I would have realized you were town by the endof the day. Everything you said in the last 6 hours or so before the lynch just screamed townie, IMO. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
that's what prevented me unvoting him at any rate. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
The most likely explanation is that he's a super paranoid townie. E: Unless you were his teamate. Then it could have been a brilliant play | ||
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