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On September 10 2012 09:27 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 09:01 Toadesstern wrote:This game is bullshit. How do you go from **vote foru to On September 10 2012 08:51 Bill Murray wrote:
Forumite's appeal to me to unvote him (though implied) shall be heard at this time.
I will be honoring my word as a man, and voting Shady Sands.
Z-BosoN is town, as is Toad, and possibly Forumite.
This I have decreed. I have decreed that I will hence forth be known as Toad, the Confused because this is giving me headaches. Why can't vigs just claim 5secs prior to deadline (that is if what Grush posted is truely the case) like they are supposed to do... Would make things way easier to figure out, especially in a game without notifications. See you tomorrow... need to reread A LOT Multi-shot vig shouldn't be claiming shots like that. However, if you're down to your last shot, I'd recommend claiming it early to prevent kp stacks or docs blocking town KP. Maybe the doc/jk would disagree and maybe its the scum vig, but I'd rather protect against scum factional KP if possible. (This all goes to shit if there's another suicide bomber...but I don't see that being likely)
this makes almost no sense.
"prevent docs blocking town kp"
either the doc or the vig is terrible in that situation and for the vig to claim the hit changes nothing. why would that make the doc change his read on the person he's protectiong lol
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On September 10 2012 09:24 Z-BosoN wrote:Basically he's screaming out loud he knows austin is blue. Given how he was addressing austin, and the crumbs, it sounds reasonable, and is confirmed with this quote: Show nested quote +Seems really inactive, however, so I'm not calling off a potential vig shot there... *looks at austin* Which is made AFTER night 1. However, his "crumbs", were made BEFORE night one, as were his other posts. If he actually suspected austin being blue, as mafia, it would be extremely advantageous to outright kill austin. He would be catching a blue in day one. I don't believe mafia would have the balls to note this and still not kill austin. My only concern is the possibility of him just leaving crumbs everywhere with his random comments. If you note, there's a lot of stuff you basically can't understand. I'm inclined to believe BM, however, because from his filter he clearly treated austin differently, something in which he did not do with anybody else. My questions are only to avoid this "random crumbing" theory I have, because otherwise that should be like a 95% clear.
there was a clear theme to the night one kills, they killed the vets who were pretty town looking and also good at scum hunting. I don't think the fact that scum didn't kill austin night one does anything to clear bill murray.
Like, I think he's probably town but I think it's weird that you're using this reason to call him conviremd.
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bullshit. I am VERY vocal in my blue reads. My town play is looked down upon, but my SCUM play?
Name 1 scum in this game who would direct over me?
None.
idiot
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i don't typically "wifom" over night kills
but this was my ONE BLUE READ IN THE ENTIRE GAME
he would have died n2
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or n1
whatever... whenever that happened
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what?
okay bm maybe you can explain to me
why does "you realized that austin was blue" imply "therefore you are town?"
i don't understand that logic train.
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On September 10 2012 09:44 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 09:27 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 10 2012 09:01 Toadesstern wrote:This game is bullshit. How do you go from **vote foru to On September 10 2012 08:51 Bill Murray wrote:
Forumite's appeal to me to unvote him (though implied) shall be heard at this time.
I will be honoring my word as a man, and voting Shady Sands.
Z-BosoN is town, as is Toad, and possibly Forumite.
This I have decreed. I have decreed that I will hence forth be known as Toad, the Confused because this is giving me headaches. Why can't vigs just claim 5secs prior to deadline (that is if what Grush posted is truely the case) like they are supposed to do... Would make things way easier to figure out, especially in a game without notifications. See you tomorrow... need to reread A LOT Multi-shot vig shouldn't be claiming shots like that. However, if you're down to your last shot, I'd recommend claiming it early to prevent kp stacks or docs blocking town KP. Maybe the doc/jk would disagree and maybe its the scum vig, but I'd rather protect against scum factional KP if possible. (This all goes to shit if there's another suicide bomber...but I don't see that being likely) this makes almost no sense. "prevent docs blocking town kp" either the doc or the vig is terrible in that situation and for the vig to claim the hit changes nothing. why would that make the doc change his read on the person he's protectiong lol
Well it doesn't really matter since I'm a tard and forgot scum could have a roleblocker, but if a vig announces their target, scum pretty much won't shoot that target. This doesn't change the doc's read but may change his choice of who to protect. Unless I had some fantastic reasoning for why the vig target was town, I would choose to let the vig shot go through and try to block scum factional KP. Otherwise I'd be trying to get the vig to change targets if given the opportunity. Again, this is pretty much not going to happen until a MYLO massclaim or something, so...moot point.
@BM "bluecrumbs"
Amazing that he called it immediately following Mattchew's lynch. In no way does that prove he's town, but I don't think he's scum (based on his filter, not just the "knowing austin was blue")
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@DoYouHas
On September 04 2012 08:22 DoYouHas wrote:
slOosh, my vote is neither stupid nor a throwaway. I have a friend who I consider a better player than me who has told me that getting BM out of the game quickly is always a good thing. It is meta as hell but it isn't stupid.
Toad's aggression towards you is completely null. You seem to be playing into your town meta so far, but I really won't know for sure until your first/second case. Who is this friend who told you to always kill Bill murray?
Yes, an old post but I don´t think it was answered.
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Because he would have killed austin N1!!!!!
Confirmed blue role >>>>> vet townie
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BM, I do not yet think you are town, please answer my questions as you have a couple of posts in there that don't make sense according to your calims and need clearing up.
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Also, someone please answer: if someone shoots vigi, does the kill still go through???
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On September 10 2012 10:11 Forumite wrote:@DoYouHasShow nested quote +On September 04 2012 08:22 DoYouHas wrote:
slOosh, my vote is neither stupid nor a throwaway. I have a friend who I consider a better player than me who has told me that getting BM out of the game quickly is always a good thing. It is meta as hell but it isn't stupid.
Toad's aggression towards you is completely null. You seem to be playing into your town meta so far, but I really won't know for sure until your first/second case. Who is this friend who told you to always kill Bill murray? Yes, an old post but I don´t think it was answered.
DoYouHas is no more. Mementoss replaced him. Would be mighty nice of him to show his face.
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@Z-boson:
To my knowledge, yes, vig shot still goes through. Pretend all shots that are fired reach their target at the exact same time.
DYH responded:
Here
Specifically:
1a. It saddens me a bit that you don't know who L is, but I guess that's to be expected more and more.
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Alright, had a chance to catch up and read up. I am getting iffy feelings from Forumite, but I'm going to wait on his evaluations of rereads to decide what he is.
On September 09 2012 06:42 imallinson wrote:
I've been out all day and caught up with the thread on the bus home. The day is almost over so sorry if this is a bit hasty. I'm not buying BKE's watcher claim.
First a few assumptions I'm making:
1) Mafia has one vig thus had effectively three kp night one not including GK's bomb.
2) Mafia used all their kp. Someone suggested they saved some to out blues but that seems like it would only work if pressure was being put on that blue so I think it's unlikely.
3) Mafia did not shoot Ottox.
If BKE is watcher then GK must have bombed BM and shot BC without a double stack. Therefore we are missing two kp. The only way for this to happen is a combination of a medic/jailer getting a lucky save, a scum shot hit an assassin or the jailer rb'd a scum.
To me this seems very unlikely because BC seems like the better bomb target and barring a medic saving BKE he should be dead. Also missing two kp feels really fishy to me. One getting blocked I could understand but two seems a little far fetched given the information available at the time (that no one apart from the two dead people seemed that town).
What made you assume that mafia had a vig?
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On September 10 2012 10:11 Forumite wrote:@DoYouHasShow nested quote +On September 04 2012 08:22 DoYouHas wrote:
slOosh, my vote is neither stupid nor a throwaway. I have a friend who I consider a better player than me who has told me that getting BM out of the game quickly is always a good thing. It is meta as hell but it isn't stupid.
Toad's aggression towards you is completely null. You seem to be playing into your town meta so far, but I really won't know for sure until your first/second case. Who is this friend who told you to always kill Bill murray? Yes, an old post but I don´t think it was answered.
He did answer. L. L doesn't feel that way anymore in reality; he's just trolling around with this poor guy, but he got replaced, so why does it matter now? Forumite why are you so scummyyyy
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Z-Boson, considering I called him as vig, I would have killed him
ill get around to answering you shortly
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slooooooo-o-o-o-o-o-oooosh
why are you not playing like you normally do when you are town
On August 06 2012 05:10 talismania wrote:
5) Sloosh is a townie boyscout. that's his meta and he's playing to it. He may be scum I guess but I doubt it. He's active and corrals people towards lynches. If he's town, he should be a highpriority target. I also want him protected out of self-interest since if he dies people are going to push my lynch and that's going to be really annoying to deal with.
yoru not doing thissssss are you sucm or an assssassin?
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On September 10 2012 07:58 Forumite wrote:
I get the feeling that scum decided on those nightkills very close to the deadline, since Hapa and austinmcc dropped suspicions on BM, Toades and me right before dying.
About Toades case on me, I´ve been busy and haven´t been putting much effort into the game. Yes, I´m more cautious than my usual meta, which unfortunately puts me closer to how I behaved in Wheel of Fortune Mafia, my scumteam kept a low profile while town lynched eachother, this tactic worked well in that game. There´s not much more to say except that I have some serious rereading to do.
Are you claiming blue or are you claiming third party here?
Might as well get over it if you post like that 8(
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On September 10 2012 11:26 strongandbig wrote:slooooooo-o-o-o-o-o-oooosh why are you not playing like you normally do when you are town Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 05:10 talismania wrote:
5) Sloosh is a townie boyscout. that's his meta and he's playing to it. He may be scum I guess but I doubt it. He's active and corrals people towards lynches. If he's town, he should be a highpriority target. I also want him protected out of self-interest since if he dies people are going to push my lynch and that's going to be really annoying to deal with. yoru not doing thissssss are you sucm or an assssassin?
Because this isn't a normal game. All the lynches have been complete blowouts and half the town are lurking. It's harder to corral people toward good lynches when everyone is sheeping / lurking. I'm not even kidding. I can't even bounce ideas off properly.
That said I think imallinson might be a good lynch and I'm asking to either strengthen my case or decide he isn't a good lynch.
imallinson I would also like your read on Forumite.
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Actually while I'm at it might as well get a read off you SnB. What is your read of imallinson and Forumite?
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