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On September 18 2012 04:45 grush57 wrote: Yay another post blindly calling me a troll without reading thread. ANYWAYS BOYS WE GOT THE NEXT DAY SCUM LYNCH I have read the thread. Calling you a troll was giving you the benefit of the doubt. If you aren't trolling you are scum. . On September 18 2012 04:13 Bill Murray wrote: " Now both are bussing me " DarthPunk is bussing you? Good to know. I am not bussing shady. Obviously he is just setting WIFOM bombs because he is going to die. It seems both Grush and BM want to lynch me next. I can;t say I am surprised as I have been calling out their anti town behaviour for a lot of the game. I don't know how that makes me scummy. It seems to be an OMGUS from the both of them :D | ||
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That goes for all of you. If you think someone is scummy Make a case. Bring as much info out into the open as possible. So that we can inform ourselves and make the best decision. The last cycle was terrible. We miss lynched shady and have no info and no discussion from it. | ||
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On September 17 2012 23:20 Kreb wrote: Its usually dead around now since its work/school time for EU and sleep time for NA. Plus, its quite obvious whos gonna get lynched. Some talk about whats coming after doesnt hurt, but a lot still depends on the flip. On September 17 2012 23:24 Kreb wrote: Unless someone comes in like sloosh did with S&B that is. Or Shady makes an effort to prevent it. Other than those options its kinda downtime atm.... He then goes on to state that the past 48 hours were wasted. despite making every effort to ensure that was the case. Clearly anti town behaviour. I don't think this makes him scum for sure. But if we throw away the assumption that no scum Bussed S&B then it looks pretty suspicious. On September 18 2012 07:48 Kreb wrote: That was a wasted 48h..... Also, didnt Rewok miss the vote? | ||
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On September 18 2012 16:27 Kreb wrote: Ehm? Is that a troll or are you just fishing for a reaction or something? What I see is a handful of sentences stating what the state of the thread is. I even go as far as to say that "Some talk about whats coming after doesnt hurt". Not gonna claim I encouraged discussion exactly either, because I wasnt. But please, do elaborate on how I "encouraged the non activity" and "made by best efforts" (I wonder what my worst efforts look like if thats my best....) to waste 48h. You're accusing me of shutting down a (highly contributory?) discussion which wasnt there. If you two guys had something to say, YOU should have said it. Im supposed to be responsible for you two not sharing possibly vital information by stating the situation? We tried to get some discussion happening when the thread had been dead for the whole cycle. You popped in added nothing at all apart from letting us know it was pointless. This was clearly anti town behaviour. Your over-reaction to my soft prodding though is worrisome. | ||
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On September 18 2012 16:57 Kreb wrote: You're not elaborating very well. You have called it "encouraging non activity", "making my best efforts to waste 48h" and now its "ladded nothing apart from letting you know it was pointless". You're saying the same thing three times and use one of the three things to back up the other. Its like saying "this is great because its awesome". But then why is it awesome? Explain like Im 5 years old: Where do I do this? It is pretty obvious where it occurred really. Seeing as I quoted it. | ||
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On September 18 2012 10:08 DarthPunk wrote: Kreb demonstrated some pretty clearly anti town behaviour during the shady bandwagon. Shiao Pi and I were trying to get some discussion going and kreb joins the thread to pretty much shut it down and encourage the non activity that was the previous status quo during the last cycle. He then goes on to state that the past 48 hours were wasted. despite making Happy? | ||
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On September 18 2012 17:26 Kreb wrote: Yes, very much. I can agree with the last part now (still not agreeing with "encouraging non activity"). Its absolutely true I made no effort to stop it. I saw no point since we were quite unanimous and it would have felt very "forced" trying to find an alternative target when we were already happy with the current one. I thought thats how everyone was reasoning, considering no one made an effort to stop the (mis)lynch. Oh well. The shady lynch only made sense If Rewok was scum. That was certainly plausible at the time. Even likely, considering the info we had at our disposal. As Shiao Pi stated, the shady lynch was too easy. If rewok had not gone AFK and had also sheeped the shady vote I would have unvoted immediately. That is why I got up at 6 am to check the thread. But rewok didn't vote at all and shady was silent and then scummy in his defense post. So scum got an easy mislynch. We got squat. We needed to push discussion during that lynch because of this exact scenario and to mitigate damage if we mislynched by having something to go off during LYLO. What you did was anti town. Not enough to lynch you off considering your otherwise Pro Town behaviour but certainly cause for concern. I am in the middle of a response to your case on BM/Grush But I thought I should post this to keep our skirmish separate. | ||
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This means that all the reads and info need that both toad and sloosh provided need to be looked at highly sceptically or even entirely disregarded. My suspicion on BM was allayed by Toad and thus are no longer allayed. BM has clearly been anti town and difficult to read. I tried lynching him as soon as his behaviour became apparent But it didn't stick. I believe this was due to the machinations of toad who, as assassin was working to delay our victory as long as possible. I really wish we had lynched BM days ago. He is IMPOSSIBLE TO READ. But any other person in any other game would have been killed by now. This is the exact situation I was concerned about. We have BM and Grush at LYLO and they are both serious liabilities. | ||
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On September 18 2012 17:44 Kreb wrote: As far as I understand, the anti town part I did was not pushing this discussion you mention. If thats anti town to you, then I agree I acted anti town. However, then I also think everyone acted anti town, because no one did push it. I think this discussion is pointless right now. I don't think you are likely to flip red. and repeating myself on this topic is not helping us catch scum. | ||
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On September 18 2012 09:26 Kreb wrote: Worth noting on Grush too: Hes called lots of people scummy, but the following three posts were the only three I could find where he was (very very soft) defending people. On the BKE case: On a post made by Z-Boson targetted at S&B: These are the only times he attempted to defend someone. One flipped green, but he also expressed that he'd be willing to vote for him. One flipped red. The third is still in the game (and Im very suspicious of). About this. He switched from defending BKE super quickly did a complete turn around and called him scum. It wasn;t very genuine and at the time I thought he was doing this for town cred. ALSO His posting and behaviour went in to full troll mode after he was accused of being scum by toad. He admits to shitting up the thread and has been a negative thread presence alongside BM all game. | ||
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On September 09 2012 01:07 DarthPunk wrote: OK 1:30 am Have only skimmed the thread. Been playing LOL and GW2. So I need to get a vote down ASAP. I am not going to vote for the blue claim. That is just retarded. BKE is not the best lynch. If he is lying it will become apparent. It is a short sighted play for scum. Far too risky. Super tired. But Grush is scum. He defends BKE after hapa's case. When called out on it he backs away at a million miles an hour. He sheep's after being pressured. But hints that he thinks/knows BKE will Flip green. He then moves from attacking the case on BKE to stating it is the best case we have. AFTER HE CLAIMS BLUE. Which if anything should make him doubt the case even more. But he transitions from sceptic to sheeping to pushing. Yep this is too weird. It seems like he was trying to gain town cred from questioning a mislynch. Hints at inside info and reference the flip constantly like he knows he will flip green. When he is revealed to be blue he changes tack and goes from doubting TO PUSHING FOR THE LYNCH OF A CLAIMED WATCHER. This should if anything make him doubt the BKE lynch even more than he had already expressed, but it does the opposite. ##Vote: grush57 Caveat: This case is somewhat associative in that it assumes that BKE is telling the truth. However I am 100% against lynching a blue claim as previous games/coaching have told me this is a mistake. If BKE is lying it should be relatively easy to catch later on. He is a bad lynch. Don't do it. Night guys. On September 09 2012 01:13 DarthPunk wrote: Wait. There is more. When I just posted in the Voting thread it seems as If he has unvoted BKE and moved to Shady despite posting that BKE was the best candidate. The reasoning? This kid is suspicious as hell. BKE. Please read my case on grush and give me your thoughts. I am delaying bed for a bit because I think lynching a blue claim is a huge mistake and would like to find and consolidate another candidate. On September 09 2012 01:59 DarthPunk wrote: I am not suspicious of grush because he acts like an idiot or because his posting is bad. I am suspicious because he defends BKE and then backs away from it. Sheeps his case whilst hinting that he will flip green. When BKE claims he is suddenly certain when the natural inclination would be to further doubt the case against BKE. He then trashes his vote onto shady for no reason whatsoever. Despite calling BKE the best case right now. -Motive: Gain town cred by questioning what he knows will be a mislynch. When he claims blue push the lynch to avoid medic saves and a NK I have no fucking clue why he voted for shady so I will leave it at that. You Should all read Grush's filter. It is Trolly, entertaining and scummy as hell. | ||
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Shiao Pi Has a claim that I believe. The fact that his claim was not to save himself or for personal gain makes it all the more credible. He counter claimed Toad who was fake claiming. Shiao Pi is TOWN Allison. I was worried about Allison as I had not really paid attention to her. But a few things convinced me of Her alignment. - Grush shoved Me and allison into a scum team. I am not scum. And both Gravan and BM have pushed for me to be lynched. If gravan Is pushing allison as the other scum then it is likely she is town. - I looked over her filter. Standard lurker fare. HOWEVER. She switched onto S&B when votes were 6-4 causing them to be 5-5 If she had not switched. S&B would not have been lynched. It is apparent to me that the sudden shift onto S&B was so swift that it took BM and Grush By surprise. I don't not think he was bussed. Therefore Imallison is TOWN. By process of elimination BillMurray and Grush have to be scum. Allison and Shiao please vote for BM or grush. GG. | ||
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He is scum. He is trying to hint he is blue. He has been doing it by hinting a Mad Hatter claim all game. And admitted to making shit up to save himself. BM and Grush are not idiots. Their style has been intentional all game. They are scum. | ||
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On September 19 2012 13:50 ShiaoPi wrote: also grush looks more like his towntroll-version, imo. bm would be worth a consideration but i feel better about allinson right now. cant do more heavy analysis since i am on my phone in class atm I explained in my Post. I am happy with A BM Lynch also. I really don't see how you could be convinced that grush is town if you read his filter. If Allison is scum Then BM must be scum. Because I doubt scum Grush would bus allison at this point. If grush is scum BM is scum. If Allison is scum BM is scum. either way BM IS SCUM. I still think grush and BM are it though. | ||
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On September 19 2012 14:00 ShiaoPi wrote: DP talk to meeee..... only us in here right now anyway Yeah I am posting lol. Just slow cause I am trying to listen to my lectures at the same time lol. | ||
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On September 19 2012 14:05 ShiaoPi wrote: its based on meta. hard to explain, but he does not feel like th TLVI in which he was scum. why does BM has to be scum if allinson is? Where do you see the connection? or just elimination? Because Grush Lumped Allison and I as scum together. If allison is scum would grush have bussed her? It is elimination. If Allison is, Grush isn't and therefore BM is. | ||
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Leaning towards. BM Allison OR BM Grush. | ||
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