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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 22 2012 13:33 GMT
#361
On August 22 2012 22:28 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 22:17 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 22 2012 22:10 iamperfection wrote:
## Vote Bluelightz

Guy comes into the thread announces his suspicion on someone then quickly retracts it simply because obvious gave a response. Didnt give good reasoning and only provided some insight when pushed to do so. Got into the game only after someone had left and was excited by the player list so you would think that his actvity would be greater and has lurked just as much as me.

True, bluelightz is my top suspect along with you, but bluelightz's posts currently are pretty similar to yours. Can you please explain why we should suspect bluelightz while thinking that you're completely innocent?

Thanks in advance.

There is no way for me to prove that im completely innocent and its silly for you to suggest me to prove it on whats been posted. I havent been here but now im here time to find scum. Going forward ill be much more active that is all i can do.

Well, I can't estimate scums and innocent people with this little amount of materials, all I can do is to hope that you're going to give away scumbags anyway (including yourself, if you're one of them too.. oh and yes you will). By the way I have never asked you to prove anything, I just asked you to explain why. A proof would be good though.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9649 Posts
August 22 2012 13:35 GMT
#362
well you said completly innocent maybe i just took that the wrong way. completely= prove in my eyes
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 22 2012 13:49 GMT
#363
@ Shady: You expect lurkers to come up with a case, yet you have only provided a random vote and a bandwagon/lurker vote.

Looks like scum wants the town to do their work for them.

##FOS Shady Sands
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
August 22 2012 14:42 GMT
#364
On August 22 2012 22:10 iamperfection wrote:
## Vote Bluelightz

Guy comes into the thread announces his suspicion on someone then quickly retracts it simply because obvious gave a response. Didnt give good reasoning and only provided some insight when pushed to do so. Got into the game only after someone had left and was excited by the player list so you would think that his actvity would be greater and has lurked just as much as me.


Defense in points:

1. If the response is townie, then I believed he is townie, why should I NOT retract my suspicion? It's kinda pointless if ye see.

2.Why is the reasoning I provided bad?(Hint: your reasoning is pointless bullshit)

3.Didn't give insight till pushed because I didn't feel the need too.

4.Why is when I got into the game a factor in me being scum?(Hint: explain), It's not like I should always post when I'm not ready.




Palmar:

On August 22 2012 11:10 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 11:10 Bluelightz wrote:
On August 22 2012 11:02 Palmar wrote:
I'd like to hear what caused you to suspect him in the first place Bluelightz, even if you seem to have then backed out of the idea of him being scum.

It helps me understand how you play.


Scum because he was just telling people the obvious thing to do while not doing it himself but Town because for his response.


What obvious thing to do was he telling people to do without doing it himself? Can you quote the post directly?

On August 22 2012 06:02 Obvious.660 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 05:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:56 Obvious.660 wrote:
Random, the lynch must not be. A monarchist, we must kill, yes? Hmhmhmhmhmhm! Yes!


That was fairly...ominous. Intentional?

Do, or do not! There is no try!

Seeking to spread dissent, the scum will be. Your best scum read, should you vote.


Yes, we should vote our best scum read.

On August 22 2012 08:18 Obvious.660 wrote:
Oh, to follow up for VE, yes, I am OK with a Palmar lynch based on evidence that he IS serious about random lynch.


Y U NO VOTE?!
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 22 2012 14:47 GMT
#365
Fairly happy with where my vote stands at the moment, given Kville's responses having come into the game (he decided to ignore my question, too).

Bluelightz, you can't come into this game all eager because of the playerlist and then go "he's suspicious, but now he's not" and disappear again. Step it up.

Shady I don't like because of how he twisted Obvious' post. But he's active and I'm wary of mislynching him because he has a tendency for some foot-in-mouth action.

I'm quite suspicious of talis; a lot of his posts have this... touchy-feely-careful feel to them. " Actually to be completely honest", "this suggestion felt to me", "which is how I initially read it", and

On August 22 2012 08:51 talismania wrote:
Actually, VE do you really want to push palmar? I may be reading things completely wrong but I get the impression you're just using him as a tool to poke newbies with (no offense, newbies).

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 22 2012 14:47 GMT
#366
... epically ninjad by BL :x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9649 Posts
August 22 2012 14:51 GMT
#367
On August 22 2012 23:47 marvellosity wrote:
... epically ninjad by BL :x

it was 5 min f5 fail in my opinion.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 22 2012 14:52 GMT
#368
you're right. maybe not so epic.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9649 Posts
August 22 2012 14:53 GMT
#369
On August 22 2012 10:54 Obvious.660 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 10:53 Bluelightz wrote:
Hello, Bluelightz is here .

I have suspicions on Obvious which I will outline in my next post.

Sweet. I was getting bored.


That was his response for you that 5 word staement was enough to clear whatever suspcions you had. I read it as an off the cuff remark that i could see anyone making yet it cleared your suspicions. What were you doing then just throwing out suspicion for the heck of it?

I questioned your activity because you were excited to be involved with this player list and then you didnt do anything.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 22 2012 15:00 GMT
#370
On August 22 2012 23:42 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 22:10 iamperfection wrote:
## Vote Bluelightz

Guy comes into the thread announces his suspicion on someone then quickly retracts it simply because obvious gave a response. Didnt give good reasoning and only provided some insight when pushed to do so. Got into the game only after someone had left and was excited by the player list so you would think that his actvity would be greater and has lurked just as much as me.


Defense in points:

1. If the response is townie, then I believed he is townie, why should I NOT retract my suspicion? It's kinda pointless if ye see.

2.Why is the reasoning I provided bad?(Hint: your reasoning is pointless bullshit)

3.Didn't give insight till pushed because I didn't feel the need too.

4.Why is when I got into the game a factor in me being scum?(Hint: explain), It's not like I should always post when I'm not ready.


Your points are not bad, the major reason why you were read as scum is that you did this and faded away. The timing of it also made you look more suspicious. We were trying to get a good base of discussion and all you did was to bait someone, get a response, decide that it's townie and go away until you came back now. That's what made you look suspicious.

On August 22 2012 23:42 Bluelightz wrote:
Palmar:

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 11:10 Palmar wrote:
On August 22 2012 11:10 Bluelightz wrote:
On August 22 2012 11:02 Palmar wrote:
I'd like to hear what caused you to suspect him in the first place Bluelightz, even if you seem to have then backed out of the idea of him being scum.

It helps me understand how you play.


Scum because he was just telling people the obvious thing to do while not doing it himself but Town because for his response.


What obvious thing to do was he telling people to do without doing it himself? Can you quote the post directly?

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 06:02 Obvious.660 wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 22 2012 05:56 Obvious.660 wrote:
Random, the lynch must not be. A monarchist, we must kill, yes? Hmhmhmhmhmhm! Yes!


That was fairly...ominous. Intentional?

Do, or do not! There is no try!

Seeking to spread dissent, the scum will be. Your best scum read, should you vote.


Yes, we should vote our best scum read.

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 08:18 Obvious.660 wrote:
Oh, to follow up for VE, yes, I am OK with a Palmar lynch based on evidence that he IS serious about random lynch.


Y U NO VOTE?!

Actually Obv is worth a filter check. His quotes that you shared and even the one which made you see him as a townie look suspicious to me.

##FoS: Obvious.660

Completely off-topic: [color=green]Where can I find myself a coach?[/color]
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 22 2012 15:01 GMT
#371
EBWOP:

Code fail. It is supposed to be:

Completely off-topic: Where can I find myself a coach
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
August 22 2012 15:03 GMT
#372
On August 22 2012 23:53 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 10:54 Obvious.660 wrote:
On August 22 2012 10:53 Bluelightz wrote:
Hello, Bluelightz is here .

I have suspicions on Obvious which I will outline in my next post.

Sweet. I was getting bored.


That was his response for you that 5 word staement was enough to clear whatever suspcions you had. I read it as an off the cuff remark that i could see anyone making yet it cleared your suspicions. What were you doing then just throwing out suspicion for the heck of it?

I questioned your activity because you were excited to be involved with this player list and then you didnt do anything.


Obvious, from what I gather on that had time, which he spent on discussing, he has been discussing stuff, he's willing to spend time on the thread, to discuss and stuff, which I consider towny, also, his response was rather that he took it normal then flipping up to extra defensive mode.

Other point, and so what? Yes I joined the game because of the player list, but what then?
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
August 22 2012 15:07 GMT
#373
@ Lingu

Why is the quote I think he is town suspicious to you? Your just cruising around, throwing baseless bullshit here and there, please explain.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 22 2012 15:51 GMT
#374
On August 23 2012 00:07 Bluelightz wrote:
@ Lingu

Why is the quote I think he is town suspicious to you? Your just cruising around, throwing baseless bullshit here and there, please explain.

With only this much material about any given person, it's not easy to make good and accurate reads about anything. I'm just trying to go over stuff that seems a little bit off.

Example: I FoS'd Obvious before doing a filter check on him because the following things seemed twisted to me:

First I read the "town confirmation post" of Obvious, it didn't look like a town confirmation to me. Then I read this:

On August 22 2012 08:18 Obvious.660 wrote:
Oh, to follow up for VE, yes, I am OK with a Palmar lynch based on evidence that he IS serious about random lynch.


Seemed a bit twisted to me.

On August 22 2012 07:39 Obvious.660 wrote:
Lurkers absolutely suck past day 2, so I agree that lurker lynches are a good fallback option. I'm also wary of easy lynches too. My experience with TL mafia has been that if it's too easy it's probably too good to be true. We're not even past 24 hours yet though so let's not get too ahead of ourselves by focusing on lurkers just yet.

Also, I agree with Shady that the LoveDoctor doesn't smell right. His olfactory glands are probably on his elbows.

Then I read this bolded part. Then, the following things I read also seemed more twisted than they actually are. After re-checking his filter now, he seemed less and less suspicious. At least for now.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Kville
Profile Joined May 2010
United States173 Posts
August 22 2012 16:02 GMT
#375
On August 22 2012 23:47 marvellosity wrote:
Fairly happy with where my vote stands at the moment, given Kville's responses having come into the game (he decided to ignore my question, too).

Bluelightz, you can't come into this game all eager because of the playerlist and then go "he's suspicious, but now he's not" and disappear again. Step it up.

Shady I don't like because of how he twisted Obvious' post. But he's active and I'm wary of mislynching him because he has a tendency for some foot-in-mouth action.

I'm quite suspicious of talis; a lot of his posts have this... touchy-feely-careful feel to them. " Actually to be completely honest", "this suggestion felt to me", "which is how I initially read it", and

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 08:51 talismania wrote:
Actually, VE do you really want to push palmar? I may be reading things completely wrong but I get the impression you're just using him as a tool to poke newbies with (no offense, newbies).



The question of what i thought of talis and obvious?

Well i can't say much about talis but his posts do seem a little sketchy aslways as obvious. My top three suspects seem to be :
talis
obvious
shady

I'll post more about these three later when i get home from my classes.
Until then
##Unvote
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 22 2012 16:05 GMT
#376
Note how Kville switches from this:

On August 22 2012 21:42 Kville wrote:
Lemmings will be lemmings and you just happend to be the one in front.

What i gathered is that you claim to 'sheep' and yet you yourself have done nothing else but provide one liners and start nothing but chaos.

If it makes you feel any better

#Vote marvellosity


to this:

On August 23 2012 01:02 Kville wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 23:47 marvellosity wrote:
Fairly happy with where my vote stands at the moment, given Kville's responses having come into the game (he decided to ignore my question, too).

Bluelightz, you can't come into this game all eager because of the playerlist and then go "he's suspicious, but now he's not" and disappear again. Step it up.

Shady I don't like because of how he twisted Obvious' post. But he's active and I'm wary of mislynching him because he has a tendency for some foot-in-mouth action.

I'm quite suspicious of talis; a lot of his posts have this... touchy-feely-careful feel to them. " Actually to be completely honest", "this suggestion felt to me", "which is how I initially read it", and

On August 22 2012 08:51 talismania wrote:
Actually, VE do you really want to push palmar? I may be reading things completely wrong but I get the impression you're just using him as a tool to poke newbies with (no offense, newbies).



The question of what i thought of talis and obvious?

Well i can't say much about talis but his posts do seem a little sketchy aslways as obvious. My top three suspects seem to be :
talis
obvious
shady

I'll post more about these three later when i get home from my classes.
Until then
##Unvote


In the span of 3 posts.

That's pretty wierd.

Marv goes from being a vote to being not even in his top 3. With no justification on any of his reads except a rain check.
Что?
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 22 2012 16:08 GMT
#377
After looking through both Marv's and KVille's filters, it just looks like KVille is hoping to throw off Marv's pressure by agreeing to his reads and unvoting Marv.

That's strange. Shouldn't the town response be to build a solid case on someone instead of posting rainchecked analysis?
Что?
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 22 2012 16:08 GMT
#378
ebwop: "agreeing to Marv's reads and unvoting Marv"
Что?
Kville
Profile Joined May 2010
United States173 Posts
August 22 2012 16:13 GMT
#379
I knew that was going to a response Shady. Marv is still a suspect,but i as i have been reading through the way you reply and switch through you on top as well as the other two i have on my list. I unvoted becuase it seems pointless to even have one at this moment until more intel is gathered.
shady
talis
obvious
marv

Does that fit your taste?
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
August 22 2012 16:18 GMT
#380
On August 23 2012 01:13 Kville wrote:
I knew that was going to a response Shady. Marv is still a suspect,but i as i have been reading through the way you reply and switch through you on top as well as the other two i have on my list. I unvoted becuase it seems pointless to even have one at this moment until more intel is gathered.
shady
talis
obvious
marv

Does that fit your taste?

I'd love to respond to this but it's really just not readable. Would you care to try again? What does it mean that Shady is "switch through". You made a list but have provided no evidence or context whatsoever, and have been incoherent in doing so. That's worse than lurking in my book.
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