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Djagulingu, you're right and perhaps I should have cast my vote earlier in the game. I did, however, want to give the people who hadn't participated much a chance to show their initial scumminess before casting my first vote.
The first thing I want to bring up right now is BL (and others') suspicions of me for not voting Palmar based on being convinced that he truly intended to push for random lynch. Being my first game with Palmar, I wasn't certain that he was indeed serious about his claim there. My response to this line of inquiry about me was to, as VE put it, put the ball in Palmar's court to find out why exactly it was he proposed and endorsed a random lynch.
On August 22 2012 08:44 Obvious.660 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 08:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 22 2012 08:27 talismania wrote:
I swear I don't remember it from pick your power redux though. He feels it's strong? Or does he do it as a dumb trap or something, which is how I initially read it. That's a mystery you'll have to take up with Palmar. He does it as a reaction to the game starting generally, and his purpose varies with game. Suffice to say he'll go through with it if we decide to do it, but no town ever has ever. I think, anyway. Using this context regarding Palmar, what justification do you have for asking for me to vote for him if the only basis for his alignment is coming from a null tell considering he does this nearly every game. I'd prefer to hear it from him what his motive was exactly in proposing and endorsing a random lynch. If he isn't forthcoming about it today then I'll start with the voting. I never did get a satisfactory response from Palmar about this. Palmar, would you be so kind as to share why you have once again pushed for a random lynch?
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On August 23 2012 01:08 Shady Sands wrote:
That's strange. Shouldn't the town response be to build a solid case on someone instead of posting rainchecked analysis?
You are correct. There should be a solid case, which is where my mistake was given such little time given at this moment i cannot post one right now which is why I provided much little information about what i gathered about my suspects Which is the sole reason why I withdrew my vote. Does not mean he is off my radar,
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On August 23 2012 01:20 Obvious.660 wrote:Djagulingu, you're right and perhaps I should have cast my vote earlier in the game. I did, however, want to give the people who hadn't participated much a chance to show their initial scumminess before casting my first vote. The first thing I want to bring up right now is BL (and others') suspicions of me for not voting Palmar based on being convinced that he truly intended to push for random lynch. Being my first game with Palmar, I wasn't certain that he was indeed serious about his claim there. My response to this line of inquiry about me was to, as VE put it, put the ball in Palmar's court to find out why exactly it was he proposed and endorsed a random lynch. Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 08:44 Obvious.660 wrote:On August 22 2012 08:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 22 2012 08:27 talismania wrote:
I swear I don't remember it from pick your power redux though. He feels it's strong? Or does he do it as a dumb trap or something, which is how I initially read it. That's a mystery you'll have to take up with Palmar. He does it as a reaction to the game starting generally, and his purpose varies with game. Suffice to say he'll go through with it if we decide to do it, but no town ever has ever. I think, anyway. Using this context regarding Palmar, what justification do you have for asking for me to vote for him if the only basis for his alignment is coming from a null tell considering he does this nearly every game. I'd prefer to hear it from him what his motive was exactly in proposing and endorsing a random lynch. If he isn't forthcoming about it today then I'll start with the voting. I never did get a satisfactory response from Palmar about this. Palmar, would you be so kind as to share why you have once again pushed for a random lynch?
KVille is pretty scummy-looking right now. Could you give a clear read yourself on him, one way or another, instead of simply questioning him and moving on?
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On August 23 2012 01:20 Kville wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 01:08 Shady Sands wrote:
That's strange. Shouldn't the town response be to build a solid case on someone instead of posting rainchecked analysis? You are correct. There should be a solid case, which is where my mistake was given such little time given at this moment i cannot post one right now which is why I provided much little information about what i gathered about my suspects Which is the sole reason why I withdrew my vote. Does not mean he is off my radar,
So basically you're pretending to agree with me to make me think we are on the same page even though you logically claim to be on the opposite side from me. AKA appeasing me and sweeping it under the rug, just like you did with Marv.
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On August 23 2012 01:28 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 01:20 Obvious.660 wrote:Djagulingu, you're right and perhaps I should have cast my vote earlier in the game. I did, however, want to give the people who hadn't participated much a chance to show their initial scumminess before casting my first vote. The first thing I want to bring up right now is BL (and others') suspicions of me for not voting Palmar based on being convinced that he truly intended to push for random lynch. Being my first game with Palmar, I wasn't certain that he was indeed serious about his claim there. My response to this line of inquiry about me was to, as VE put it, put the ball in Palmar's court to find out why exactly it was he proposed and endorsed a random lynch. On August 22 2012 08:44 Obvious.660 wrote:On August 22 2012 08:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 22 2012 08:27 talismania wrote:
I swear I don't remember it from pick your power redux though. He feels it's strong? Or does he do it as a dumb trap or something, which is how I initially read it. That's a mystery you'll have to take up with Palmar. He does it as a reaction to the game starting generally, and his purpose varies with game. Suffice to say he'll go through with it if we decide to do it, but no town ever has ever. I think, anyway. Using this context regarding Palmar, what justification do you have for asking for me to vote for him if the only basis for his alignment is coming from a null tell considering he does this nearly every game. I'd prefer to hear it from him what his motive was exactly in proposing and endorsing a random lynch. If he isn't forthcoming about it today then I'll start with the voting. I never did get a satisfactory response from Palmar about this. Palmar, would you be so kind as to share why you have once again pushed for a random lynch? KVille is pretty scummy-looking right now. Could you give a clear read yourself on him, one way or another, instead of simply questioning him and moving on?
Coffee brewing. Then your request will be fulfilled.
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On August 23 2012 01:30 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 01:20 Kville wrote:On August 23 2012 01:08 Shady Sands wrote:
That's strange. Shouldn't the town response be to build a solid case on someone instead of posting rainchecked analysis? You are correct. There should be a solid case, which is where my mistake was given such little time given at this moment i cannot post one right now which is why I provided much little information about what i gathered about my suspects Which is the sole reason why I withdrew my vote. Does not mean he is off my radar, So basically you're pretending to agree with me to make me think we are on the same page even though you logically claim to be on the opposite side from me. AKA appeasing me and sweeping it under the rug, just like you did with Marv.
No your still a scum and i plan to prove it.
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On August 22 2012 21:42 Kville wrote:
Lemmings will be lemmings and you just happend to be the one in front.
What i gathered is that you claim to 'sheep' and yet you yourself have done nothing else but provide one liners and start nothing but chaos.
If it makes you feel any better
#Vote marvellosity
This makes no sense. How does "leader lemming" = scum?
Also, you're twisting Marv's efforts to spark discussion here--a perfectly townish action--into scummy play. Why?
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On August 23 2012 01:32 Kville wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 01:30 Shady Sands wrote:On August 23 2012 01:20 Kville wrote:On August 23 2012 01:08 Shady Sands wrote:
That's strange. Shouldn't the town response be to build a solid case on someone instead of posting rainchecked analysis? You are correct. There should be a solid case, which is where my mistake was given such little time given at this moment i cannot post one right now which is why I provided much little information about what i gathered about my suspects Which is the sole reason why I withdrew my vote. Does not mean he is off my radar, So basically you're pretending to agree with me to make me think we are on the same page even though you logically claim to be on the opposite side from me. AKA appeasing me and sweeping it under the rug, just like you did with Marv. No your still a scum and i plan to prove it.
Wha? My response was directed at your Marv vote.
You vote Marv, then you withdraw your vote. Then in your defense of that withdrawal above, you say that there should still be a solid case on Marv, which you cannot post right now because you are short on time. Which is why you withdraw your vote, but he is still on your radar.
But then you fail to include him on your list of scummy players.
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Shady, wait till Kville gets home or whatever and makes his case(s). Arguing and condeming him right now when he's indicated he hasn't got time to construct anything solid isn't going to be constructive.
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On August 23 2012 01:32 Kville wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 01:30 Shady Sands wrote:On August 23 2012 01:20 Kville wrote:On August 23 2012 01:08 Shady Sands wrote:
That's strange. Shouldn't the town response be to build a solid case on someone instead of posting rainchecked analysis? You are correct. There should be a solid case, which is where my mistake was given such little time given at this moment i cannot post one right now which is why I provided much little information about what i gathered about my suspects Which is the sole reason why I withdrew my vote. Does not mean he is off my radar, So basically you're pretending to agree with me to make me think we are on the same page even though you logically claim to be on the opposite side from me. AKA appeasing me and sweeping it under the rug, just like you did with Marv. No your still a scum and i plan to prove it.
FYI, now it just looks like you're trapped and you're blindly OMGUSing because there's nothing else you can do.
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On August 23 2012 01:32 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:42 Kville wrote:
Lemmings will be lemmings and you just happend to be the one in front.
What i gathered is that you claim to 'sheep' and yet you yourself have done nothing else but provide one liners and start nothing but chaos.
If it makes you feel any better
#Vote marvellosity This makes no sense. How does "leader lemming" = scum? Also, you're twisting Marv's efforts to spark discussion here--a perfectly townish action--into scummy play. Why?
Spark discussion about what? More meanlingless accusations?
I stopped a useless random day 1 lynch. It would have been a waste if it had gone any further. It takes one scum to light the match. He was a leader of followers, does it mean that those followers can be scum to? Possibly and we will just might we will see.
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Everyone get your votes on Shady right now
Shady Sands is SCUM, and the fact that everyone ignored me when I said that initially irks me to no end.
His first act coming back was to throw his vote on a LURKER guys. Why? "Because lurkers are so dangerous - we should kill a random lurker, like this" and voted Kville. But now, NOW that he's active and no one is looking at him, NOW we should be lynching SCUMMY behavior. NOT lurkers. Because there are STILL lurkers out there - talis and iamperfect BOTH still fit the profile of "dangerous-to-town lurkers", but as we can see from Shady's play, he was never really interested in lynching lurkers to help the town. He was interested in lynching lurkers because they were easy targets for him at the time.
Stop being bad, start being good. Vote Shady Sands 'cause I'm in no mood.
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On August 22 2012 15:44 Djagulingu wrote:
2- Palmar: He either seems like a DT or a scum, more likely to be a DT. I don't know which one, but it is irrelevant. Either way, he's going to give away scumbags.
Where did this come from?
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Alllllrightythen.
I'll take a look at Kville, who apparently came into the thread to push some suspicion away from himself and cast wild accusations at others. Then to disappear. So that's cool I guess.
So his preliminary, opening "case" that is his list of people have "sketchy posts":
On August 23 2012 01:02 Kville wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 23:47 marvellosity wrote:Fairly happy with where my vote stands at the moment, given Kville's responses having come into the game (he decided to ignore my question, too). Bluelightz, you can't come into this game all eager because of the playerlist and then go "he's suspicious, but now he's not" and disappear again. Step it up. Shady I don't like because of how he twisted Obvious' post. But he's active and I'm wary of mislynching him because he has a tendency for some foot-in-mouth action. I'm quite suspicious of talis; a lot of his posts have this... touchy-feely-careful feel to them. " Actually to be completely honest", "this suggestion felt to me", "which is how I initially read it", and On August 22 2012 08:51 talismania wrote:
Actually, VE do you really want to push palmar? I may be reading things completely wrong but I get the impression you're just using him as a tool to poke newbies with (no offense, newbies). The question of what i thought of talis and obvious? Well i can't say much about talis but his posts do seem a little sketchy aslways as obvious. My top three suspects seem to be : talis obvious shady I'll post more about these three later when i get home from my classes. Until then ##Unvote Followed up by adding Marv who has has already cast suspicion on AND voted for, after being called out for forgetting to add him to the list.
On August 23 2012 01:13 Kville wrote:
I knew that was going to a response Shady. Marv is still a suspect,but i as i have been reading through the way you reply and switch through you on top as well as the other two i have on my list. I unvoted becuase it seems pointless to even have one at this moment until more intel is gathered.
shady
talis
obvious
marv
Does that fit your taste? So there's no evidence exactly what those sketchy posts were, outside of the train of votes for Kville and somehow the interactions between those players being evidence of a scum team?On August 22 2012 21:30 Kville wrote:
No need to be so irrational. How does it not make sense? I just claimed that you(marvellosity) and jang may perhaps be associates of somekind just based on how you "randomly" voted for someone becuase of inactivity with no leads on the first day. What isn't there to make sense about?
btw- Was at work and just got a new phone so I was setting up, plus full time student(no web blocks=sweetness ^.^). This post above is making mountains from molehills. Implying connections this early in a mini game, where people working together (scums, masons) are likely to be far more careful of being linked by meta-factors such as post timing, is rather silly. It's a good bit of evidence to bring up when looking at other such coincidences and making further reads, but until those situations present themselves I just don't see any justification for making the call that it's linking them as scum partners.
I think I like this one the most, though:On August 23 2012 01:32 Kville wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 01:30 Shady Sands wrote:On August 23 2012 01:20 Kville wrote:On August 23 2012 01:08 Shady Sands wrote:
That's strange. Shouldn't the town response be to build a solid case on someone instead of posting rainchecked analysis? You are correct. There should be a solid case, which is where my mistake was given such little time given at this moment i cannot post one right now which is why I provided much little information about what i gathered about my suspects Which is the sole reason why I withdrew my vote. Does not mean he is off my radar, So basically you're pretending to agree with me to make me think we are on the same page even though you logically claim to be on the opposite side from me. AKA appeasing me and sweeping it under the rug, just like you did with Marv. No your still a scum and i plan to prove it. Marv has earned his FOS and Vote for what I see as OMGUS reasons, and Kville is now certain that he has found a second scum in Shady Sands. Oooookay. Next we're going to hear how if X flips Red then Y must be Red? Kville's entire train of though needs to be explained.
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On August 23 2012 02:00 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 15:44 Djagulingu wrote:
2- Palmar: He either seems like a DT or a scum, more likely to be a DT. I don't know which one, but it is irrelevant. Either way, he's going to give away scumbags.
Where did this come from?
I suppose it's the DT part that you're asking. I don't know. Maybe it's because of the step by step investigation of every single suspect, one by one, from top of the list to the bottom. At least that's what I got from what he said. I don't know.
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Don't make me do a post-by-post case guys...no one in the thread wants that. Just slowly...I SAID SLOWLY!!!....remove your present votes and place them directly on the scumbag Shady.
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The voting chits are cast thusly:
Palmar (0):
Shady Sands
VisceraEyes
Marvellosity (0):
Kville
Bluelightz (1):
iamperfection
Shady Sands (1):
VisceraEyes
Kville (3):
Marvellosity
Djagulingu
Shady Sands
VisceraEyes (1)
Palmar
Not Voting:
Lvdr
Bluelightz
Obvious.660
Kville
Chezinu
talismania
Deadline is just under 33 hours from now
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ooook! home now, now lets see what i have gotten myself into.
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On August 23 2012 02:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't make me do a post-by-post case guys...no one in the thread wants that. Just slowly...I SAID SLOWLY!!!....remove your present votes and place them directly on the scumbag Shady.
don't need a PtP, but can you at least consolidate your thoughts into one post
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On August 22 2012 12:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Throughout his filter, Shady Sands does nothing but fling baseless suspicion around the thread at anyone posting for any reason. Go look for yourself, he literally hasn't said anything of substance for me to quote as proof. Every post he makes is a leading, accusatory, one-time interaction with someone in the thread...or arguing with marvellosity. Never have we seen a read or an opinion of his own. Even in arguing with marvellosity I don't get the feeling that Shady thinks marv is scum - and that DOMINATES his filter.
##Unvote
##Vote Shady Sands
On August 23 2012 01:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Everyone get your votes on Shady right now
Shady Sands is SCUM, and the fact that everyone ignored me when I said that initially irks me to no end.
His first act coming back was to throw his vote on a LURKER guys. Why? "Because lurkers are so dangerous - we should kill a random lurker, like this" and voted Kville. But now, NOW that he's active and no one is looking at him, NOW we should be lynching SCUMMY behavior. NOT lurkers. Because there are STILL lurkers out there - talis and iamperfect BOTH still fit the profile of "dangerous-to-town lurkers", but as we can see from Shady's play, he was never really interested in lynching lurkers to help the town. He was interested in lynching lurkers because they were easy targets for him at the time.
Stop being bad, start being good. Vote Shady Sands 'cause I'm in no mood.
...that you asked for this at all is pretty damning Marv...but because I feel stronger about Shady, you get a pass today.
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