EPTNewbie Mini Mafia XXIV - Page 3
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On August 20 2012 08:17 YourHarry wrote: That is not the reason for my switch, but I understand your suspicion. I can't move my vote for now because if I do, I will be lynched. You can move your vote with an even stronger case on someone else. I encourage you to do so because your initial vote against Thrawn wasn't with much evidence. | ||
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On August 20 2012 08:27 YourHarry wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Jhyut Justification? | ||
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On August 20 2012 08:36 YourHarry wrote: @GK Never mind. I will go read your case again. @Solar, my brief explanation is in the post before my vote. Ah didn't see, thanks. | ||
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##Vote: Thrawn2112 | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Thrawn2112 | ||
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.............................. @self 1. Make your own reads, not those of others 2. Don't trust your own reads, ever 3. Wow you're a terrible player | ||
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So it's really just a question of your read on gk. If you think he's town, vote for Golbat. If you think he's not, vote for GK. If GK and DP are mafia then wp because they've been nothing but active and helpful (and terribly wrong yesterday). I haven't done nearly enough independent work, and it's hurt me because I've been taken in by bad logic following others, but ultimately it's a lesson learned. I don't even think Golbat is the greatest lynch candidate ever because lurking is a often a null tell but I'm seeing that it's come down to the choice I said. I'd go with Obvious myself but I don't even trust any reads I have after D1 and D2. ##Vote: Golbat | ||
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Current read fwiw is Town: Goodkarma, Darthpunk, Z-boson No idea: Stutters Anti-town play: Golbat, Obvious, YourHarry | ||
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On August 23 2012 08:10 goodkarma wrote: TL;DR: One last time: we don't have the time to vote switch. You do if you all verbally agree that you'd do it at 10 minutes to, and anyone that didn't would be immediately voted at 5 minutes to. IRC mafia decisions can be done in much less time with everyone there. | ||
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My play today was weak sheeping because I believed we had pretty much lost. I wasn't trying to put together a case of my own because it came down to whether goodkarma was right or not. Today I will be more active and more independent. | ||
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The full explanation for my D1 behaviour is that I have quit my only other mafia game in the past early, because at the beginning of D1 where the only substance is the "hello" posts and people kick off with wild accusations I feel pressured to post minimally and safely to not get called out. As it turns, out, the most minimal and safe behaviour is not to post at all, so I quit the game entirely rather than try. So I adopted a strategy to prevent that, which is to be so outrageous that I either get lynched immediately or established as pro-town for a long period of time. Now the flaw with this is that it is not a pro-town strategy (even less so than I imagined) because causes such confusion that everyone actively involved with it (thrawn and Shady) except myself got lynched based on their D1 reaction to it. Now, for my behaviour on subsequent days, I had a completely wrong read on thrawn and Shady because of that and I was working to get them lynched /because they were active/, essentially. In Shady's case because he was getting at me and thrawn because he was defending me. All of this was of course useless information and their very activity in itself was a town tell. They were always there to respond and push cases and true mafia just cannot keep that up; this was more important than their small scumtells everyone jumped on. My votes for Shady and Thrawn, despite their timing, were independent reads and still based ENTIRELY on my D1 feeling, instead of keeping up with filters as much as I should have. When I was "sheeping", I was actually surprised that everyone was leaning towards shady and thrawn but for different reasons, so I referenced them in my post but I didn't agree with what was being written about them either way, I didn't even really check, which ends up giving the appearence of trying to fit in. I wasn't paying enough attention. Today, as I've explained, I felt goodkarma was the only hope of the town not dying so I was prepared to do exactly what he was doing and the outcome would either be a revived town chance or death, but at least death would be a good chance to do-over without the above mistakes in a new game. The reason I wasn't posting was that I felt I couldn't affect the outcome but it had the effect of making me look like I wasn't responding to criticism or posting my reads. In conclusion I don't protest the allegations in your post but I'm giving you the specific motivations behind them. | ||
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goodkarma and Obvious I will respond to your posts (and if Obvious has anything from my filter) tomorrow, as in still during night. Since I am likely up as a lynch candidate, mafia wouldn't kill me anyway so I don't need to wait for day before saying stuff. | ||
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My Obvious read is by elimination of gk, dp and z-boson. My town reads on /them/ are based on specific posts even I can't remember, the context is just gone when I look through filters for them. I have no idea about stutters so it's his filter I'm going through. Obvious could not be more defensive about Ochrow's posting so it's WIFOM all the way down and I'm just going off the agreed tells of Ochrow and his lack of posting. dp I see my defence post made absolutely no impact on you so I don't see much point in continuing arguing to you. | ||
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On August 23 2012 23:59 goodkarma wrote: I'm sorry, but what you've posted doesn't cut it. I thought you'd say that. | ||
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