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On August 24 2012 10:42 Mattchew wrote:
i thought it was .5 added if you are deemed effective/super-effective. I didn't breadcrumb or call it cause thats dumb when there is flavor with the deaths (something i asked ahead of time) and I have more than 1 shot and there could be roles that like detective our roles or announce them to the thread (aka make me a sweet mafia target)
is there anything else you want explained or does this cover "all this shit"
Fire/Electric/Poison+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/7/7e/006Charizard.png) These guys hit hard! They get a bonus 0.5KP to attack powers.
Cool story bro. You have my permission to die now.
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actually there is ONE case in which Mattchew is not lying:
Wiggles is a pokemon type that takes half damage from electric types.
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I love how you didn't answer the most important question, mattchew.
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On August 24 2012 10:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
actually there is ONE case in which Mattchew is not lying:
Wiggles is a pokemon type that takes half damage from electric types.
Did you read JingleHell's claim?
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On August 24 2012 10:49 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 10:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
actually there is ONE case in which Mattchew is not lying:
Wiggles is a pokemon type that takes half damage from electric types. Did you read JingleHell's claim?
nah I missed it, saw it now.
k so mattchew probably killed Toad inadvertently...rofl.
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On August 24 2012 10:49 HiroPro wrote:
I love how you didn't answer the most important question, mattchew.
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On August 24 2012 10:42 Mattchew wrote:
i thought it was .5 added if you are deemed effective/super-effective. I didn't breadcrumb or call it cause thats dumb when there is flavor with the deaths (something i asked ahead of time) and I have more than 1 shot and there could be roles that like detective our roles or announce them to the thread (aka make me a sweet mafia target)
is there anything else you want explained or does this cover "all this shit"
Let me get this straight.
Because flavor is posted in the day post, you felt you didn't have to at least breadcumb your shot prior to it? And, considering the flavor (according to jingle) is "shocking end"(which refers to electrical types), you are claiming pikachu after the flavor was given? If we are talking about flavor, pikachu is probably the safest electrical pokemon to claim. And you didn't provide any "pre-flip" insurance(which would be the crumb or claim).
Do you know how that sounds? That you are fakeclaiming. That's how it sounds. Some scum buddy of yours(yourself?) hit wiggles with an eletrical attack(which would explain jingle's reaction). You saw that wiggles didn't die, and thought he was protected instead of the attack being redirected. Then you claimed that you shot him probably because you thought he would claim being protected. You thought "hey i got a free lynch here" with that, and waited until halfway through the day. Your shot does not sound like a town shot - as others said, you should've shot dirkzor instead and "I thought wiggles had less chance to be lynched" is a terrible excuse.
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so my original analysis still works. Lying would have confirmed Mattchew as scum (which would have meant anyone defending him from now on would be dumb or autoscum) but unfortunately it's not that easy.
He's still the best lynch for today IMO. His reasoning for shooting Wiggles doesn't make sense from a town perspective at all. Why would you ever shoot someone who is not your #1 scumread?
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On August 24 2012 10:51 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 10:49 HiroPro wrote:
I love how you didn't answer the most important question, mattchew. ?
I was talking about how you didn't address the point of why you actually thought wiggles was scum.
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but i didnt claim to shoot toad.
I didn't shoot dirkzor cause I was even on wiggles and dirk for being scum and dirk was being pushed more actively in the thread for a lynch, which means in my mind the end result was both dead by the end of n2. I didn't know I was shooting with a full kp and upon retrospect, this may be pretty stupid, although I still don't know if this is true.
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On August 24 2012 10:58 Mattchew wrote:
but i didnt claim to shoot toad.
I didn't shoot dirkzor cause I was even on wiggles and dirk for being scum and dirk was being pushed more actively in the thread for a lynch, which means in my mind the end result was both dead by the end of n2. I didn't know I was shooting with a full kp and upon retrospect, this may be pretty stupid, although I still don't know if this is true.
because, I dunno, you wouldn't have the foresight as a townie with a goddamn KP power to ask the host if your type affects it?
Or, maybe read the OP?
Wtf? I don't believe this one bit. How can you get a role PM that tells you that you're an electric type pokemon, with the OP telling you that electric types get +0.5KP, then come back and appear this ignorant? This has to be a fucking scumclaim.
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On August 24 2012 10:02 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 09:49 Drazerk wrote:
I still think scum would of shot VE for flip insurance but so far his play is coming of as town to me
I dislike Wiggles because of the timing on the shooting and the majority of his play only happening when he was under scrutiny.
Mattchew is giving me bad vibes but the bandwagon is ALSO giving me bad vibes so I'm not sure what to do about that but given the choice of Mattcher / Dirk ill probably vote mattchew
I want to see more of the following - Jinglehell, Heist and Misder or for someone to shoot all three
I also want Kurumi to tell us what he knows about Zel because something is clearly up with that.
What do you want me to do more of? I've contributed on Mattchew, and I haven't really got any other clear reads right now. So if I see someone say something that sounds scummy, I chip in, but I'm trying not to clutter the thread. By the way, if Mattchew used his KP, it didn't land on target, since he was confused, courtesy of yours truly, Magnemite. In fact, reading the flavor text, it may have inadvertently been the cause of death of Toad, going by the "shocking end" bit. I cause an ability to hit a random target. I'm not entirely sure why the flavor is different than that of a confused Pokemon hitting themselves, though. Due to the fact that this may sound slightly off, if you feel the need to flip me and make sure I'm telling the truth, just remember me when I'm gone and blue.
I made this role and can confirm it makes the intended action hit a target at random
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On August 24 2012 10:54 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 10:51 Mattchew wrote:On August 24 2012 10:49 HiroPro wrote:
I love how you didn't answer the most important question, mattchew. ? I was talking about how you didn't address the point of why you actually thought wiggles was scum.
Yeah I touched on it earlier but didn't do a full case, mostly cause I wasn't trying to lynch him, just kill him n2
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On August 24 2012 11:00 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 10:58 Mattchew wrote:
but i didnt claim to shoot toad.
I didn't shoot dirkzor cause I was even on wiggles and dirk for being scum and dirk was being pushed more actively in the thread for a lynch, which means in my mind the end result was both dead by the end of n2. I didn't know I was shooting with a full kp and upon retrospect, this may be pretty stupid, although I still don't know if this is true.
because, I dunno, you wouldn't have the foresight as a townie with a goddamn KP power to ask the host if your type affects it? Or, maybe read the OP? Wtf? I don't believe this one bit. How can you get a role PM that tells you that you're an electric type pokemon, with the OP telling you that electric types get +0.5KP, then come back and appear this ignorant? This has to be a fucking scumclaim.
I did read the OP and as I said, I was under the impression that those were the added "values" if you were to hit a target that would be considered "effective"
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In addition, the standard effectiveness rules are in play. A Fire Pokemon will double his effective KP against a Grass Pokemon, but will only deal half KP to a Rock Pokemon. A Water Medic will double his protection if protecting a Fire Pokemon.
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Hurray for claiming!
I think Mattchew is stupid for not understanding the KP mechanics, but ultimately town.
On August 23 2012 13:30 Mattchew wrote:
in a weird twist, i would only rather lynch wiggles if it is either me or him.
i would much much rather lynch dirk
There's the crumb for his shot, or as close as I could find.
I'm waiting on dirk to tell me why he thinks I'm scum
I think wiggles is my lynch of choice for today, as he has got off entirely too easy following the hit on BC. He got some breathing room and he comes back with a strong defensive post but doesn't know who to vote yet, or who he suspects. He also won't go after bugs anymore even though the Day1 wagons were supposedly started by scum.
##Vote:Mr.Wiggles
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Is kill flavour an indicator of how someone died, or is it purely flavour?
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On August 24 2012 11:30 Hopeless1der wrote:Hurray for claiming! I think Mattchew is stupid for not understanding the KP mechanics, but ultimately town. Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 13:30 Mattchew wrote:
in a weird twist, i would only rather lynch wiggles if it is either me or him.
i would much much rather lynch dirk There's the crumb for his shot, or as close as I could find. I'm waiting on dirk to tell me why he thinks I'm scum I think wiggles is my lynch of choice for today, as he has got off entirely too easy following the hit on BC. He got some breathing room and he comes back with a strong defensive post but doesn't know who to vote yet, or who he suspects. He also won't go after bugs anymore even though the Day1 wagons were supposedly started by scum. ##Vote:Mr.Wiggles
What made you think wiggles was scum earlier? None of this stuff happened then, yet you said you thought wiggles was scummiest. But you don't talk about any of his posting that happened before your post indicating suspicion.
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At that point I had not actually read through Mattchew's filter yet, so that was why I clarified that it was wiggles "so far".
The "so far" came down to his apathy towards the day 1 wagons, but insistence that scum started the wagons. The whole 'observation' post didn't sit well with me because he was subjecting wbg and bc to blame without pulling out why they were scum other than the fact that they started wagons. There was also the fact that he demanded the meowth shot to be claimed. Automatically calling it scum if it isn't claimed within 5 minutes.
BC seemed to think he'd legitimately caught scum in his "trap". There are lots of examples of BC's play being praised, but wiggles is very insistent that bc is scum. BC's flip has colored my read quite heavily. Wiggles has not gone after bugs, even though the actual mislynch was started by him. We still don't know which way the dirk wagon would have gone, but BC was obviously scum for it according to wiggles. And its not like he held bugs as a backup target:
On August 23 2012 18:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 17:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why does BC keep referencing Bugs' post as if Bugs is accusing Wiggles? He's said it twice I think now, and I don't think Bugs was accusing Wiggles at all. Because if people sheep him and I get lynched, then it will be WBG's fault that a town player flipped.
This reads that he knows that bugs is town, which I do not get at all after the way he set himself up to go after either one of bc or wbg.
There is also some connection theory bs that I could work in, such as BC's "stop role speculating" from early on and how Toad could have had a scumbuddy point it out..
There was also his joke post at chezinu. Not at all a serious interaction and doesn't hunt scum, but was also completely true - scumslip? And yes, I know these last couple points are reaching, they were just random thoughts that occurred to me.as I was reading through.
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On August 24 2012 11:37 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Is kill flavour an indicator of how someone died, or is it purely flavour?
Its an indicator to some degree
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