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lol. Thinking about this, Mattchew is probably third party.
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On August 25 2012 00:06 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 23:55 Mementoss wrote:On August 24 2012 23:48 Zephirdd wrote:On August 24 2012 16:37 Kurumi wrote:On August 24 2012 10:05 Drazerk wrote:
Why are you all role claiming when KURUMI of all people has a VT laser... I forgot HEY BITCHES ZEPHY IS SO COOL HE CAN BLOCK THE SUN AND THEN CREATE ANOTHER ONE! DOUBLE SUN POWER! Also I am Caterpie. Sue me. lmao. Let this be registered as my breadcumb for my role then. Although my breadcumb is in my first post. Anyway, Since I don't want to be on the wrong straw of the lynch before the deadline, and hooray work, Mattchew it is! ##unvote
##vote Mattchew Why do you care what side of the lynch you on.... Because I want to make a difference this time >_> Because I can picture it: 'OMG ZEPH U SAID MATCH WZ SCUM Y U NO VOTE HIM' aaaand time to work
Well, congratulations, you hit the point in voting where your vote is a null-tell, but one that makes anyone suspicious! More so because you drew attention to that fact, which could be seen as something to point to while spewing WIFOM.
However, after playing scum with you in Mad Men, I think you're town this time, because your totally random shit is being posted in the main thread, which suggests you don't have a QT for it.
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On August 25 2012 00:14 HiroPro wrote:
lol. Thinking about this, Mattchew is probably third party.
It is impossible , he is too cute!
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On August 25 2012 01:19 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 00:14 HiroPro wrote:
lol. Thinking about this, Mattchew is probably third party. It is impossible , he is too cute!
Oh lol I misread this as Zephy I need some break from being brain dead
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Really go through the thought process for Mattchew here. He thinks he's hit wiggles for 0.5kp. He wants to finish the job tonight. He wants dirk as well.
On August 23 2012 10:15 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 10:13 Mementoss wrote:
Mattchew
Heist
Misder
WBG
Haven't heard much from these pokemon lately. interesting, why not wiggles or dirk in that list?
On August 23 2012 12:22 Mattchew wrote:
I think that I am a bad lynch for many reasons.
one would be that dirkzor is still alive, and if he posted any more hesitantly and nervously he wouldn't post at all. He is playing to not get caught, not to catch scum. you know, when he insta-accuses VE cause he was accused for good reason? or when he tells BC he's doesn't think BC is scum, so BC shouldn't be accusing him. or even how he enters the thread
the second would be that wiggles is still alive, and he has posted mostly about setup and how the 2 lynch candidates came about (he doesn't even give an opinion to dirk's alignment).
the third is that I am town and would be a bad lynch
He kind of breadcrumbs his hit:
On August 23 2012 13:30 Mattchew wrote:
in a weird twist, i would only rather lynch wiggles if it is either me or him.
i would much much rather lynch dirk
This is all before his claim of pikachu. Fine, rip into him for misunderstanding the game mechanics. It's PTP with additional poke-power. It doesn't really matter as his hit was re-directed and seems like it hit Toad.
The speculation on why he never mentioned wiggles day1. Well he never really mentioned much of anything. He lurked and said yes to a dirk wagon. He's continued to push that wagon under the pretense that wiggles is down 0.5kp:
On August 24 2012 01:53 Mattchew wrote:Why we should lynch Dirkzor, according the the TL Mafia Vets who wrote a guide A. SurvivalHiding/Blending in + Show Spoiler +This thread stinks, everyone else has said it, why not me? I wanna look like I care too guys! On August 21 2012 05:47 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2012 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On August 20 2012 16:16 Dirkzor wrote:Oh god. 7 pages of nothingness so far. Oh and btw I'm to.. No... not that. Horrible way to enter a thread. On August 20 2012 07:41 Drazerk wrote:
##Take In Sunlight
##Solar Beam: VisceraEyes On August 20 2012 07:56 Drazerk wrote:On August 20 2012 07:55 strongandbig wrote:On August 20 2012 07:52 Drazerk wrote:On August 20 2012 07:51 Toadesstern wrote:On August 20 2012 07:48 Drazerk wrote:On August 20 2012 07:46 Toadesstern wrote:
as if. I'll consider that a troll and if you really do damage I'll blast right back.
Also: sup guyses I GOT A KP ROLE OUT OF MY TROLL Basically all I wanted  I said you're trolling. Go figure what that might mean for my post. Still you wouldn't do the threat if you couldn't back up with something other than a half assed vote that means nothing soooooo... why were you trying to out kp roles? Track the damage track the scum Since this is the most interesting thing so far I'll guess its also the best way to start. Drazerk's maybe fake solar beam doesn't make any sense. I know its Drazerk so in that way I could be excused. But the way he explained it doesn't fit a Drazerk move (as I remember him from last I played). I would have expected a more "Because I wanted too" response. All that is meta and not super reliable. But "Track the damage track the scum" doesn't even make sense. Even if you know that Toad have a KP doesn't make it easier to find scum? I dislike Drazerk's posting so far... I end it with this lulz: On August 20 2012 10:44 Drazerk wrote:On August 20 2012 10:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On August 20 2012 10:28 Drazerk wrote:On August 20 2012 10:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On August 20 2012 10:23 Drazerk wrote:On August 20 2012 10:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On August 20 2012 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)
So the following -
No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum
Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green Why do you keep stating obvious things -_- I have my reasons I hope they don't revolve around you using the argument later of "look at how helpful I was being, I clearly cannot be scum" because well, general advice to a group of players who at this point should all know the basics of playing clearly wouldn't need said advice. I never defend myself You should know this by now Then you should really stop playing so scummy. Playing as you are now reaks almost as distinctly red as mr kurumi over there. He smells bad. Theres no real way for me to stop looking like scum with my play style and its why you will need to kill me (I said kill not lynch) before Lylo other whys ill make an awful call at a critical situation and lose town the game or you will all suspect me and lose town the game. Man, I think dirk just claimed scum with this post. hurrah Hurrah. Now kill me so I can stop reading this garbage. Posting long but contentless posts + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2012 16:26 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2012 09:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On August 21 2012 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 21 2012 07:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
If there's no support for it, then I'll entertain the cases put forth. There isn't much more to say on the matter, and anyone who dwells on this should be put under scrutiny. It's a vote like any other vote, I've given my reasoning for it - it's up to you guys to convince me that your read on random player is better than my seething hatred for grush' playstyle. I can tell you without a doubt that attempting to bully me for it is not going to work. Posted again because you apparently missed it Toad. The case on Kurumi is that he's Kurumi. The case on Draz is inflated WIFOMY bullshit that consists mostly of setup speculation. The case on BC is...that he said the same thing as you? Last time I checked, agreeing with someone isn't a scumtell, so until he elaborates on his read of Dirk I'm reserving judgement on BC. I'm not reluctant to talk about my thoughts, I just don't have many yet. If this doesn't satisfy you, then my sincerest of apologies. Hopefully my future contributions are up to your standards. Simple, he basically said he didn't want to be terrible about how he entered the thread. He then jumps on the bandwagon of the day of that time by making a large "say nothing post" as his post really says jack shit aside from talking about the fake solar beam. Its a space filler post on the person with the largest bit of heat on them that offers no new information or really anything of note at all. Why spend time making a post look large if you aren't going to put content with it. Since then he has had 1 post of complete apathy of "not wanting to read this garbage" that he is in no way helping to solve. Seems pretty open shut to me atm. A "say nothing post"? I basicly had the samw worries that S&B did in his big case against Drazerk. My post was just completely crap at explaining my problem with drazerk since it was all hunches and feelings. The way I entered was just a punch towards those entering with a town claim which is basicly useless and imo a complete stupid way to enter a thread. While I agree that Drazerk was the biggest focus point during the first part of D1, the solar beam thingy wasn't mentioned in the 2-3 pages before I posted so I brought it up again because it was the only thing worth mentioning.
Show nested quote +On August 21 2012 09:30 wherebugsgo wrote:yeah Mattchew, I don't have as much time as I normally do. I'm going to try not to rage if something retarded happens (like in BC's game) but I'm also hosting AoK mafia which is taking quite a lot more time than expected. I don't like imallinson and I would be fine with lynching him today. If you all would kindly take a glance at his posts, in most of them he fails to take a strong opinion and defers his own stances to the opinions of others. For example: On August 21 2012 09:18 imallinson wrote:
I guess what need weighing up with regards to a Grush lynch is would lynching anyone else give us more info? On August 21 2012 09:00 imallinson wrote:On August 21 2012 08:54 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 21 2012 08:50 Mattchew wrote:On August 21 2012 08:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm reading AND care Mattchew, care to elaborate on why you think otherwise? cause you haven't sunk your teeth into a real candidate with reason yet, you haven't picked a fight, you also havent explained why you havent done the previously mentioned things. you usually do atleast 1 of these things as town Yeah, this sounds like you as town too. The reason I haven't "sunk my teeth into a candidate" yet is because there are no real candidates for me to choose from. Draz is like the only one and I don't like the fact that a bandwagon built on the BS case SnB put forth. It's a shitty case and I don't like the smell of the bandwagon that formed from it...so I'm not supporting it presently. My grush wagon could use some help though, if you're interested. It's guaranteed to rid the game of an anti-town poster and gosh, it might even net us a scum. What do ya say? It feels kind of wrong lynching someone who can't defend himself. I've never played a game with him before, is he normally this spammy and terrible in his posting? The only real thing he's contributed is that he thinks people aren't thinking "outside of the box" enough with respect to roles (about the multiple power thing). However, that has nothing to do with finding scum and he himself admits its pretty much not of any help: On August 21 2012 08:20 imallinson wrote:On August 21 2012 08:12 Mementoss wrote:On August 21 2012 08:09 imallinson wrote:On August 21 2012 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:On August 21 2012 07:39 imallinson wrote:
I've been out all day so I apologise for not posting earlier.
One thing I noticed, between the spam, is a hell of a lot of role discussion, talk about kp, etc. I think everyone has missed a very important point in all this. These are pokemon we are dealing with and last I checked most of them have more than one power. Because this is PTP it wouldn't surprise me if most people did have more than one power. Add to that the fact that all the role talk has been about standard mafia roles it seems like no one is really thinking outside the box on the roles. The real question is do they think it's the case a not talking about it for strategic reasons. I'm not a fan of misdirection in mafia from a town perspective because it normally only serves to make scum hunting harder. Most roles can be equated to standard mafia roles. You can deal KP? Your a vig role. You can protect? medic role. You can edit your posts? Okay, this one doesn't exist. Short of everyone claiming what role they created (Which might be useful, but a great way for scum to fuck with us), we have to use terms that everyone else will understand. Once we get through a round of Night actions, (assuming decon\greymist use the ability names) we'd be able to refer to specifics. I didn't really mean calling roles different names just because of PTP. I'm perfectly fine calling KP role vig, protect role medic and so on. I'm talking about roles that would never be in a normal game of mafia and thus don't have a standard name. I'm pretty the role I created doesn't fit into any normal mafia role and I'm sure there a lot of other cases like that. As for role calling I think it's a terrible idea, especially in PTP because you can make up a fake role for yourself just as easily as the role you created for someone else. I do agree with you that things should become clearer after night 1 because we will at least get some info on the roles that are in play. But how do your thoughts on roles and PTP mechanics help us catch scum? It doesn't really, I'm just pointing out a big missing piece in all the role talk so far. Honestly I don't think role talk day 1 will be helpful in this set up.On August 21 2012 08:12 Drazerk wrote:On August 21 2012 08:05 wherebugsgo wrote:On August 20 2012 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)
So the following -
No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum
Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green On August 20 2012 21:30 Drazerk wrote:
Also to go one step further
I'm a bug type so fire / flying / rock types - Bring it Herp derp? I don't know if anyone else noticed this (I have to reread some of what I missed) but I saw this and figured it has to be pointed out. Unfortunately it's Drazerk, so to be completely honest my read of Drazerk doesn't change here. I'm an exception to my own rule because at some point I need to be taken down for the good of the town But is that point now? So if it's not going to be helpful why is he spending his time pointing that out instead of trying to find scum? In addition, note his vague language, his meek attitude, and his overall "hide and say a few noncontroversial things and hope no one notices me" style. All of these things are great ways for scum to blend in. ##vote imallinson While this case at face value makes sense I figured I'd dig deeper. imallinson is pretty new here so I figured he could just be intimidated by the amount of veterans in the game and thus explaining his meek attitude. So i skimmed his newbie game and the mad men game. In neither of those does he appear meek or insecure about his thoughts. So more power to this case due to that.
Show nested quote +On August 21 2012 09:08 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 21 2012 09:06 Mattchew wrote:On August 21 2012 08:54 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 21 2012 08:50 Mattchew wrote:On August 21 2012 08:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm reading AND care Mattchew, care to elaborate on why you think otherwise? cause you haven't sunk your teeth into a real candidate with reason yet, you haven't picked a fight, you also havent explained why you havent done the previously mentioned things. you usually do atleast 1 of these things as town Yeah, this sounds like you as town too. The reason I haven't "sunk my teeth into a candidate" yet is because there are no real candidates for me to choose from. Draz is like the only one and I don't like the fact that a bandwagon built on the BS case SnB put forth. It's a shitty case and I don't like the smell of the bandwagon that formed from it...so I'm not supporting it presently. My grush wagon could use some help though, if you're interested. It's guaranteed to rid the game of an anti-town poster and gosh, it might even net us a scum. What do ya say? I'd like a more informed read to lynch off of and I agree that SnB's case is weak, but I still have a scum read on Draz. He is back peddling and clearly nervous while trying to act like he's been cool calm and collected the entire game. You also haven't voted a weak read early (to provoke reaction) and said my vote is my tool or w.e you say, so I wouldn't be completely against lynching you currently You're not alone - but I strongly advise against it. I'm town and intend to show it soon enough. But my vote IS a tool, that much has not changed. I'm just using it differently this game than you're used to seeing. A fancy way of saying: My meta have changed... and that are always bullshit that people say when they think people got caught with some meta stuff. Eyes on VE. And lastly: @heist: Not so much suicidal anymore as this thread is turning for the better. The first 10 pages just had me regretting signing up. But why so interested in something thats clearly sarcastic? No one wants to die D1 in a mafia game why use the energy? Not wanting to point fingers + Show Spoiler +Only goes after VE and myself, and has now gone after... no one? also this post, where he brings up things but doesnt accuse anyone of anything On August 23 2012 23:47 Dirkzor wrote:I don't read irony.... But reading your run-in with mattchew does make it make sense a bit more. Show nested quote +There's just a bit of a difference here, mine was more recent, had more work on it, and came to a solid conclusion, which was followed by a vote. Yours, on the other hand, was just a lot of waffle. Wait, what? More recent? That was 1-2 pages and about 10 hours after my case. I won't categorize that as more recent. More work? Why? Because you did some shitty post by post analysis? I came to a solid conclusion: Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 16:54 Dirkzor wrote:
I think mattchew is scum just cruising by.. forgot to add that in the end. Which is basicly the same you came to during your post-by-post: Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 03:10 JingleHell wrote:
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Starting to see a trend. Minimal content, wanting to sheep people. Usually scummy to want someone else to lead on cases.
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More wanting to sheep and hide behind other players.
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Given the fact I made the case during N1 I couldn't vote and so much have happened since that just blindly voting Mattchew now seems, in my eyes, a bit of an overkill and out of place. I'm still re-reading d1 and trying to put the pieces together. Found this gem: Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 03:44 Mementoss wrote:
If you read Toad's posts I think its fairly obvious he's not Meowth. I only have a little while before I leave before deadline and am still unsure where to place my vote. I still am really uncomfortable with Mattchews play, but no one seems to care about his sheneningans. The only thing that doesn't make me think he is scum, is his scum meta from LIII was very aggressive. Do with that info however you want. Avoiding responsibility and Apathy about who is lynched + Show Spoiler +On August 22 2012 04:41 Dirkzor wrote:
So with 1½ hours left we should start to consolidate. Seems to me there are only 2 real targets. Myself and allinson.
TBH i don't know what to write. Of course I'll change my vote to allinson to increase my own chance of survival. I'm still nut sure if he is scum or not but he never got on my green list.
Promoting confusion + Show Spoiler +On August 20 2012 16:16 Dirkzor wrote:
Oh god. 7 pages of nothingness so far.
Oh and btw I'm to.. No... not that. Horrible way to enter a thread. On August 21 2012 05:47 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2012 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On August 20 2012 16:16 Dirkzor wrote:Oh god. 7 pages of nothingness so far. Oh and btw I'm to.. No... not that. Horrible way to enter a thread. On August 20 2012 07:41 Drazerk wrote:
##Take In Sunlight
##Solar Beam: VisceraEyes On August 20 2012 07:56 Drazerk wrote:On August 20 2012 07:55 strongandbig wrote:On August 20 2012 07:52 Drazerk wrote:On August 20 2012 07:51 Toadesstern wrote:On August 20 2012 07:48 Drazerk wrote:On August 20 2012 07:46 Toadesstern wrote:
as if. I'll consider that a troll and if you really do damage I'll blast right back.
Also: sup guyses I GOT A KP ROLE OUT OF MY TROLL Basically all I wanted I said you're trolling. Go figure what that might mean for my post. Still you wouldn't do the threat if you couldn't back up with something other than a half assed vote that means nothing soooooo... why were you trying to out kp roles? Track the damage track the scum Since this is the most interesting thing so far I'll guess its also the best way to start. Drazerk's maybe fake solar beam doesn't make any sense. I know its Drazerk so in that way I could be excused. But the way he explained it doesn't fit a Drazerk move (as I remember him from last I played). I would have expected a more "Because I wanted too" response. All that is meta and not super reliable. But "Track the damage track the scum" doesn't even make sense. Even if you know that Toad have a KP doesn't make it easier to find scum? I dislike Drazerk's posting so far... I end it with this lulz: On August 20 2012 10:44 Drazerk wrote:On August 20 2012 10:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On August 20 2012 10:28 Drazerk wrote:On August 20 2012 10:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On August 20 2012 10:23 Drazerk wrote:On August 20 2012 10:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On August 20 2012 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
I'm with wiggles there are super powers out there that prey on certain information being known (Steamship 4 shot sniper comes to mind)
So the following -
No pokemon names
No Type
No role information
No claiming medic to save scum
Anyone who does this will probably just be shot down or turned green Why do you keep stating obvious things -_- I have my reasons I hope they don't revolve around you using the argument later of "look at how helpful I was being, I clearly cannot be scum" because well, general advice to a group of players who at this point should all know the basics of playing clearly wouldn't need said advice. I never defend myself You should know this by now Then you should really stop playing so scummy. Playing as you are now reaks almost as distinctly red as mr kurumi over there. He smells bad. Theres no real way for me to stop looking like scum with my play style and its why you will need to kill me (I said kill not lynch) before Lylo other whys ill make an awful call at a critical situation and lose town the game or you will all suspect me and lose town the game. Man, I think dirk just claimed scum with this post. hurrah Hurrah. Now kill me so I can stop reading this garbage. On August 21 2012 16:26 Dirkzor wrote:
And lastly:
@heist: Not so much suicidal anymore as this thread is turning for the better. The first 10 pages just had me regretting signing up. But why so interested in something thats clearly sarcastic? No one wants to die D1 in a mafia game why use the energy? All this, while not doing much of anything to promote a better discussion, he blandly points a finger at draz and doesnt ask questions.
General theoretical question to the thread, if you took .5 kp of damage last night would you tell the thread?
Why did you think the question was there at the end? For shits and giggles? Either he took damage or he dealt it (or both).
The next thing, his claim doesn't make sense? Or seems to have happened when he was pressured? When the fuck else should you claim? Should he have just not claimed at all and let himself get lynched?
On August 24 2012 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 10:11 Mattchew wrote:
wiggles i shot you cause i thought you had a lesser chance of being lynched day 2 this is the worst reasoning any townie can possibly ever give for shooting someone. As town you shoot your #1 scumread, as scum you shoot whoever the fuck you want and make up reasons later. This reeks of made-up reason. I don't think mattchew is ballsy or smart enough as scum to lie about his role (not to mention there's not much reason for him to lie here when the possibility of a rolecop in a game full of roles is pretty likely) so this is definitely a scumclaim.
His shot makes sense if you believe that he misunderstood the +0.5KP mechanics. He "knew" he would have to take two shots to finish the job and decided he'd rather shoot his second scumread and try to lynch the first.
I find Mattchew's play to be lacking, but CONSISTENT. The motive behind his claimed shot is in his filter.
There is still mementoss' case of people dying, especially BC's and the scumslip that BC found:
On August 23 2012 10:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 10:32 Mementoss wrote:On August 23 2012 10:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On August 23 2012 10:23 Mattchew wrote:On August 23 2012 10:22 Mementoss wrote:On August 23 2012 10:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On August 23 2012 10:17 Mattchew wrote:On August 23 2012 10:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On August 23 2012 10:15 Mattchew wrote:On August 23 2012 10:13 Mementoss wrote:
Mattchew
Heist
Misder
WBG
Haven't heard much from these pokemon lately. interesting, why not wiggles or dirk in that list? He excluded scum From the list obviously if you are not being sarcastic that is my thought process I still like dirk as red, and wiggles has done absolutely nothing to help town period this game. He however has managed to find time to criticize people and claim they must be red with 0 case. (see bugs' post a few pages ago on wiggles to see what I mean). But mattchew has done something to help town? :S I found SnB as town, and I am pretty sure VE is town too now. so thats pretty helpful what exactly have you done meme? other than bandwagon a townie lynch? you do realize you just claimed scum here right? I dont get it either Because he has done nothing useful (so far) to help the town in any way. To come out and say "i found blah as town and I think blah is town" is great. You know who likes finding town? or more specifically, differentiating town from third party or town from mafia? Not fucking townies. Saying your green reads is awesome, but if you don't state your red cases with actual reasons and instead just hop on wagons / spout green reads you are likely not town.
But then, shortly after:
On August 23 2012 13:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 13:34 Drazerk wrote:
Personally I'd rather kill Wiggles / Mattchew over Dirk but thats because I honestly get no vibes from the case and I hate voting on things I don't care about. Honestly the only vibes I get from mattchew are bad townie at the moment. Could that mean red? yes but i feel its less likely. I am fine with a wiggles or dirk situation with current preference to dirk only given that he has done far more to get on my radar. You at least have a reason to not want to kill dirk though which is more than most have.
So, suffice to say, I am not behind lynching Mattchew today.
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Does anyone else suddenly have hair raising on the back of their necks that Mattchew is just bad town and Hopeless is scum trying to set up a strong position following a mislynch?
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Or I'm actively trying to prevent a mislynch? I don't like killing townies.
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Would his position be strong if Mattchew is a mislynch?
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On August 25 2012 01:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
Or I'm actively trying to prevent a mislynch? I don't like killing townies.
That is it guys, switch to hopeless. Thanks man, we had our doubts.
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On August 25 2012 01:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
Or I'm actively trying to prevent a mislynch? I don't like killing townies.
Thanks for claiming scum.
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So...it was fair to accuse wiggles of being scum for NOT trying to stop either wagon Day 1. I'm accused of being scum because I think we're lynching the wrong guy?
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On August 25 2012 02:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
So...it was fair to accuse wiggles of being scum for NOT trying to stop either wagon Day 1. I'm accused of being scum because I think we're lynching the wrong guy?
No you are accused because you were under suspicion and now you called Mattchew town before flip, gg
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Hi again.
Day 2 post- the only thing of importance (besides the fact that two people flipped scum) is the flavor of the kills.
BC vs Wiggles into BC getting dayvig shot- I had BC as scum at the end of Day 1, so I don't believe it's that bad of a shot if it was a town dayvig. (Though obviously, it could be a scum dayvig that wanted to get rid of a vet...). Same thing as before, can't really tell the alignment of the shot. Wiggles put a lot of effort into the case though, which leads me to believe that he's town.
I also have WBG as town, though I haven't looked carefully at his filter yet. I just get a town vibe from him.
Also VE is town. Drazerk's posting has gotten way better, making me think he's town as well.
Mattchew is interesting. When I played with him before GMarshal's PYP, he did the exact same thing he did day 1 when he was town (pointing fingers without backing stuff up, and posting one-liners all the time aka being scummy). If I was going to vote on meta, I would say that Mattchew is a bad lynch target. But I'm not, so ##Vote:Mattchew.
Also, there's a JingleHell v Mattchew and a Mattchew v Dirkzor thing going on (where the first person is the one attacking).
As for JingleHell, I was actually writing a case on him but it stopped when I read the post where he claimed a role. That claim seems out of the blue, which I don't know if scum would do. He's obviously being more productive though (pushing a Mattchew case) so I don't mind him being alive for now.
I feel like lynching Dirkzor would clear up a lot of stuff though, and I still think he's being scummy. But Mattchew works too.
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On August 25 2012 02:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
So...it was fair to accuse wiggles of being scum for NOT trying to stop either wagon Day 1. I'm accused of being scum because I think we're lynching the wrong guy?
It's the way you do it, when people already have some doubts. It's close to the deadline, which can easily make it a "futile attempt, but dammit I tried". It's a firm but late defense of a guy who's looked scummy, but most of us do have some doubts that it could just be really clumsy play.
Yeah, that's scummy. If you really wanted to save him, you'd have defended him during a high activity time, and not close to deadline.
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On August 25 2012 02:04 Misder wrote:
Hi again.
Day 2 post- the only thing of importance (besides the fact that two people flipped scum) is the flavor of the kills.
BC vs Wiggles into BC getting dayvig shot- I had BC as scum at the end of Day 1, so I don't believe it's that bad of a shot if it was a town dayvig. (Though obviously, it could be a scum dayvig that wanted to get rid of a vet...). Same thing as before, can't really tell the alignment of the shot. Wiggles put a lot of effort into the case though, which leads me to believe that he's town.
I also have WBG as town, though I haven't looked carefully at his filter yet. I just get a town vibe from him.
Also VE is town. Drazerk's posting has gotten way better, making me think he's town as well.
Mattchew is interesting. When I played with him before GMarshal's PYP, he did the exact same thing he did day 1 when he was town (pointing fingers without backing stuff up, and posting one-liners all the time aka being scummy). If I was going to vote on meta, I would say that Mattchew is a bad lynch target. But I'm not, so ##Vote:Mattchew.
Also, there's a JingleHell v Mattchew and a Mattchew v Dirkzor thing going on (where the first person is the one attacking).
As for JingleHell, I was actually writing a case on him but it stopped when I read the post where he claimed a role. That claim seems out of the blue, which I don't know if scum would do. He's obviously being more productive though (pushing a Mattchew case) so I don't mind him being alive for now.
I feel like lynching Dirkzor would clear up a lot of stuff though, and I still think he's being scummy. But Mattchew works too.
Lol almost 72 hours after last post
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Misder, your timing is impeccable, showing up with a weak defense of, and vote on, Mattchew, doubts on me (when I've been after Mattchew)... especially when you talk about MY activity being scummy.
Save yourself time and just claim red directly.
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There's still 4 hours to lynch. I'm sorry I didn't get my thoughts across before. However, this is being focused at the timing and my supposed scumminess instead of the content. We don't know either mine or Mattchew's alignment. Is my defense of Mattchew at all credible?
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Guys please vote Hopeless1der, he just said Mattchew is town and I believe it is a scumslip.
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Please put together an actual case if you want people to vote me. So we can look at it after I flip blue and decide whether or not to kick you in the face on my behalf.
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Oh, by the way, if I'm right about Misder's impeccable timing, there's a rather amazing correlation with Grush and Hopeless. Hopeless was hoping that Grush's temp wouldn't result in a modkill, Grush, when asked for his case against me, linked Misder's joke, and Misder's joke was based on me wanting to lynch Grush.
Bearing in mind, of course, that Grush has already acted about 1000% more productive than he ever does as town.
Cute little love triangle, yes? Especially now that they're posting in a way that looks like they're angling for town credit, if we assume Mattchew is bad town.
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EPT
