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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 24 2012 17:56 GMT
#1161
What about misder?
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
August 24 2012 17:57 GMT
#1162
On August 25 2012 02:04 Misder wrote:
This post is so wishy washy, this post alone makes me want to switch off mattchew. Conjoined with Hopeless's timing of his defense post gah.

Hi again.

Day 2 post- the only thing of importance (besides the fact that two people flipped scum) is the flavor of the kills.

BC vs Wiggles into BC getting dayvig shot- I had BC as scum at the end of Day 1, so I don't believe it's that bad of a shot if it was a town dayvig. (Though obviously, it could be a scum dayvig that wanted to get rid of a vet...). Same thing as before, can't really tell the alignment of the shot. Wiggles put a lot of effort into the case though, which leads me to believe that he's town.

The first part of this post says shooting BC defending the shot if its town, did Misder shoot BC? Effort = town?

I also have WBG as town, though I haven't looked carefully at his filter yet. I just get a town vibe from him.

He says WBG is town for no reason at all, WBG put no effort, but is magically town without him reading him up.
More unexplained town reads.


Also VE is town. Drazerk's posting has gotten way better, making me think he's town as well.

Mattchew is interesting. When I played with him before GMarshal's PYP, he did the exact same thing he did day 1 when he was town (pointing fingers without backing stuff up, and posting one-liners all the time aka being scummy). If I was going to vote on meta, I would say that Mattchew is a bad lynch target. But I'm not, so ##Vote:Mattchew.

Here comes the wishy washiness. Mattchews case is interesting. Well ya couldn't have been more vague could ya? All meta Misder has with mattchew points him to believe hes town, but yeah FUCK META, I'm going to vote him. He never gives a reason for voting mattchew other than he's interesting and following his town meta.

Also, there's a JingleHell v Mattchew and a Mattchew v Dirkzor thing going on (where the first person is the one attacking).

As for JingleHell, I was actually writing a case on him but it stopped when I read the post where he claimed a role. That claim seems out of the blue, which I don't know if scum would do. He's obviously being more productive though (pushing a Mattchew case) so I don't mind him being alive for now.

This paragraph on jinglehell just shows misder is not reading the thread. Jinglehells post wasn't out of the blue it explained mattchews missed shot and explained how toad died.

I feel like lynching Dirkzor would clear up a lot of stuff though, and I still think he's being scummy. But Mattchew works too.

This last line, wow, just wow. Concludes his post with no clear direction, shows a lack of interest for the flip. We can lynch dirkzor for information, or mattchew whatever


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 24 2012 17:58 GMT
#1163
On August 25 2012 02:55 Mattchew wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2012 02:53 Mattchew wrote:
Why you should believe I am pikachu

No electric pokemon (with night kp) has died. No one has counter claimed me being pikachu, and no one has claimed the hit on toad, which with Jingle's claim, makes me the (accidental) killer of Toad. AKA Pikachu. This isn't an argument, this is facts. Also, for me to post that I shot at wiggles would be so ballsy if I wasn't Pikachu because he is alive and can easily counter-claim that shot, which almost happened


Why if you believe that I am Pikachu you actually believe I am town (or 3rd party if there is one I guess)

Hopeless did a really good (too good) job of pointing out the posts where I believed I had .5 kp and had shot wiggles. To say I have 4 or 5 or w.e teammates, and none of them point out to me that I actually have 1kp and even if I don't believe them I wouldn't ask a mod at the very least, is fucking insane. If I was scum I would have known I was firing off 1kp.


TLDR; If you are voting me you are voting what is basically a game-mechanics confirmed mislynch.



I am fine with switching the votes to hopeless or Dirk.


BTW this is why you are playing BAD if you are voting me

WBG and VE should know better. Especially WBG


Bum wa Voltorb and it is electric , bugs hopeless slipped bad and we need to lynch him, misder is vig food
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 24 2012 18:01 GMT
#1164
On August 25 2012 02:58 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 02:55 Mattchew wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2012 02:53 Mattchew wrote:
Why you should believe I am pikachu

No electric pokemon (with night kp) has died. No one has counter claimed me being pikachu, and no one has claimed the hit on toad, which with Jingle's claim, makes me the (accidental) killer of Toad. AKA Pikachu. This isn't an argument, this is facts. Also, for me to post that I shot at wiggles would be so ballsy if I wasn't Pikachu because he is alive and can easily counter-claim that shot, which almost happened


Why if you believe that I am Pikachu you actually believe I am town (or 3rd party if there is one I guess)

Hopeless did a really good (too good) job of pointing out the posts where I believed I had .5 kp and had shot wiggles. To say I have 4 or 5 or w.e teammates, and none of them point out to me that I actually have 1kp and even if I don't believe them I wouldn't ask a mod at the very least, is fucking insane. If I was scum I would have known I was firing off 1kp.


TLDR; If you are voting me you are voting what is basically a game-mechanics confirmed mislynch.



I am fine with switching the votes to hopeless or Dirk.


BTW this is why you are playing BAD if you are voting me

WBG and VE should know better. Especially WBG


Bum wa Voltorb and it is electric , bugs hopeless slipped bad and we need to lynch him, misder is vig food

voltorb didnt have night kp, only day kp LOOK AT ME I READ THE ROLE PM'S!!!!1!!!!!!1!
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
August 24 2012 18:01 GMT
#1165
On August 25 2012 02:53 Mattchew wrote:
Why you should believe I am pikachu

No electric pokemon (with night kp) has died. No one has counter claimed me being pikachu, and no one has claimed the hit on toad, which with Jingle's claim, makes me the (accidental) killer of Toad. AKA Pikachu. This isn't an argument, this is facts. Also, for me to post that I shot at wiggles would be so ballsy if I wasn't Pikachu because he is alive and can easily counter-claim that shot, which almost happened


Why if you believe that I am Pikachu you actually believe I am town (or 3rd party if there is one I guess)

Hopeless did a really good (too good) job of pointing out the posts where I believed I had .5 kp and had shot wiggles. To say I have 4 or 5 or w.e teammates, and none of them point out to me that I actually have 1kp and even if I don't believe them I wouldn't ask a mod at the very least, is fucking insane. If I was scum I would have known I was firing off 1kp.


TLDR; If you are voting me you are voting what is basically a game-mechanics confirmed mislynch.



I am fine with switching the votes to hopeless or Dirk.


The only problem I have with this is the middle part. It's entirely possible that you knew you had 1KP you were scum, you wanted wiggles DEAD. Now that he didn't die and you were saying you thought you only had .5KP and it was a poke of some sort. However, I don't think I'm even convinced this is the case, everything lines up too consistently to be planned I think.
For now:

##Unvote: Mattchew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 24 2012 18:02 GMT
#1166
On August 25 2012 03:01 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 02:58 Kurumi wrote:
On August 25 2012 02:55 Mattchew wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2012 02:53 Mattchew wrote:
Why you should believe I am pikachu

No electric pokemon (with night kp) has died. No one has counter claimed me being pikachu, and no one has claimed the hit on toad, which with Jingle's claim, makes me the (accidental) killer of Toad. AKA Pikachu. This isn't an argument, this is facts. Also, for me to post that I shot at wiggles would be so ballsy if I wasn't Pikachu because he is alive and can easily counter-claim that shot, which almost happened


Why if you believe that I am Pikachu you actually believe I am town (or 3rd party if there is one I guess)

Hopeless did a really good (too good) job of pointing out the posts where I believed I had .5 kp and had shot wiggles. To say I have 4 or 5 or w.e teammates, and none of them point out to me that I actually have 1kp and even if I don't believe them I wouldn't ask a mod at the very least, is fucking insane. If I was scum I would have known I was firing off 1kp.


TLDR; If you are voting me you are voting what is basically a game-mechanics confirmed mislynch.



I am fine with switching the votes to hopeless or Dirk.


BTW this is why you are playing BAD if you are voting me

WBG and VE should know better. Especially WBG


Bum wa Voltorb and it is electric , bugs hopeless slipped bad and we need to lynch him, misder is vig food

voltorb didnt have night kp, only day kp LOOK AT ME I READ THE ROLE PM'S!!!!1!!!!!!1!

Ooooh I did not grasp what you tried to say, sorry! Luv you <3
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 24 2012 18:02 GMT
#1167
i didnt read the pm's he had to announce his shooting herp derp

Shockwave: Once per game you may shock someone for 0.5KP by writing ##Shockwave ""name"" in the thread. If that player is in a coma it will also wake them up. This can be done at any time.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 24 2012 18:03 GMT
#1168
On August 25 2012 03:02 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 03:01 Mattchew wrote:
On August 25 2012 02:58 Kurumi wrote:
On August 25 2012 02:55 Mattchew wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2012 02:53 Mattchew wrote:
Why you should believe I am pikachu

No electric pokemon (with night kp) has died. No one has counter claimed me being pikachu, and no one has claimed the hit on toad, which with Jingle's claim, makes me the (accidental) killer of Toad. AKA Pikachu. This isn't an argument, this is facts. Also, for me to post that I shot at wiggles would be so ballsy if I wasn't Pikachu because he is alive and can easily counter-claim that shot, which almost happened


Why if you believe that I am Pikachu you actually believe I am town (or 3rd party if there is one I guess)

Hopeless did a really good (too good) job of pointing out the posts where I believed I had .5 kp and had shot wiggles. To say I have 4 or 5 or w.e teammates, and none of them point out to me that I actually have 1kp and even if I don't believe them I wouldn't ask a mod at the very least, is fucking insane. If I was scum I would have known I was firing off 1kp.


TLDR; If you are voting me you are voting what is basically a game-mechanics confirmed mislynch.



I am fine with switching the votes to hopeless or Dirk.


BTW this is why you are playing BAD if you are voting me

WBG and VE should know better. Especially WBG


Bum wa Voltorb and it is electric , bugs hopeless slipped bad and we need to lynch him, misder is vig food

voltorb didnt have night kp, only day kp LOOK AT ME I READ THE ROLE PM'S!!!!1!!!!!!1!

Ooooh I did not grasp what you tried to say, sorry! Luv you <3

<3 sry i was rude im on edge you are my muse <3
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 24 2012 18:03 GMT
#1169
rather kill WIGGLES now but its 2late heh?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 24 2012 18:04 GMT
#1170
On August 25 2012 03:03 Kenpachi wrote:
rather kill WIGGLES now but its 2late heh?

how about hopeless or dirk?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 24 2012 18:06 GMT
#1171
On August 25 2012 03:04 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 03:03 Kenpachi wrote:
rather kill WIGGLES now but its 2late heh?

how about hopeless or dirk?


If I'm right about hopeless, I think misder will be a much better target than dirk. His timing showing back up was no coincidence.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 24 2012 18:08 GMT
#1172
I suppose I prefer killing misder over hopeless but I'm completely fine with both of them dying.

On reread if I assume Mattchew is bad then he can be town. So, from now on Mattchew is in my "bad town" list until he can prove himself otherwise. Sucks to be you, bro.

Also Kenpachi you have no opinion on Misder/hopeless? Do you think either are good choices for lynch? Why Wiggles still?

Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
August 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#1173
Mattchew can we do a quick Q&A:

Why did you shoot wiggles in the first place? You mention that you think he wouldn't get lynched day 2. And you only had a quick sentence on why you thought he was scum. Why him over someone else or a lurker?

Can you explain the motivation behind this quote:
On August 23 2012 13:30 Mattchew wrote:
in a weird twist, i would only rather lynch wiggles if it is either me or him.

i would much much rather lynch dirk

Why did you decide wiggles was not scum after your shot didn't go through?

Also, you only mention Dirk or hopeless, what do you think about Misder?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
August 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#1174
Hey all. I've been halfway following along, but really need to go back and read through this as there seem to be a couple main plot lines going on.

I know zelblade didn't really give you much, so I'll get some thoughts together and hopefully tonight or tomorrow morning. For now, I'm just going to do a quick read over the last little bit and get a vote on someone, don't have time while at work to fully catch up. The main lynch candidates are...wiggles, dirkzor, mattchew, misder, hopeless?
Fe fi fo fum.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#1175
He still hasnt answered my question wiggles oh wiggles oh where have you gone.

I'd prefer killing hopeless over misder because of the timing of his mattchew defense, but honestly neither of them look town to me.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 24 2012 18:20 GMT
#1176
On August 25 2012 03:13 Mementoss wrote:
Mattchew can we do a quick Q&A:

Why did you shoot wiggles in the first place? You mention that you think he wouldn't get lynched day 2. And you only had a quick sentence on why you thought he was scum. Why him over someone else or a lurker?

Well I thought he was doing literally nothing except summarizing events of the thread. Wiggles is usually a very well thought out poster but with actual opinions, not observations as town. I have too much respect for Wiggles town-play to not think him scum with his performance thus far

Can you explain the motivation behind this quote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 13:30 Mattchew wrote:
in a weird twist, i would only rather lynch wiggles if it is either me or him.

i would much much rather lynch dirk


I shot at wiggles with what I believed to be .5 kp. I wanted to finish what I started with wiggles n2 and lynch dirk d2, resulting in both of them dead at the d3 post. If wiggles was lynched, I would have had to shot dirk twice in my mind.


Why did you decide wiggles was not scum after your shot didn't go through?

I have not decided wiggles is not scum and I still believe him to be scum. However he has lowered himself on my list behind dirk and hopeless. I would also like to re-read misder.


Also, you only mention Dirk or hopeless, what do you think about Misder?

Misder I still think could have actually been afk this whole time, saw an easy way to break back into the thread by voting me which to the gazing and not reading eye would be the obvious lynch at that time being that i had like 80% of the votes. However this is also sketchy as fuck. I need to re-read him
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 24 2012 18:25 GMT
#1177
Voting for hopeless, ill try to find some wifi before the deadline.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 24 2012 18:34 GMT
#1178
Come on people, make the switch, kill the scum, Hopeless1der.
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 24 2012 18:40 GMT
#1179
Posting from phone. Glad I checked the thread early. Hopeless looks like the switch. Here's to killing scum.
Bio - Breaking it down
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 24 2012 18:47 GMT
#1180
Wow that's shitty. I make a great read and Mattchew turns around and says I have to be scum for it.

The reason I didn't try to defend Mattchew when I voted was I hadn't read back into his claim at that point. I did into that this morning, and felt that it was way too easy to lynch him. There was no discussion, everyone was just blithely chiming in and adding their vote to his wagon.

Where is wiggles btw?

On August 24 2012 11:37 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Is kill flavour an indicator of how someone died, or is it purely flavour?

His most recent post..No meaningful input from him since BC died really.

On August 24 2012 10:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 10:12 Mattchew wrote:
oh and that second quote was written during day 2. cause i wanted to finish my shooting of you night 2, but now i realize that may not work like that

I know it was from Day 2. I just assumed you wouldn't flip-flop from wanting to kill Dirk to wanting to kill me to wanting to kill Dirk that fast, so it was representative of wanting to kill Dirk more than me.

I'm still deciding who I want to lynch now.

What's going on wiggles?
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