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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 24 2012 19:24 GMT
#1201
If my votecount is correct, Mattchew is at 6, Hopeless and Misder are both at 4. I'll shift to Misder if needed to prevent a Mattchew lynch at this point.


Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 24 2012 19:26 GMT
#1202
On August 25 2012 04:23 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 04:20 Mattchew wrote:
would a med saved person be alerted they were saved?

and would someone be alerted they were shot, even if they are a vet


and wiggles why has no one claimed the hit on toad then?

What are you talking about?

I am talking about me being pikachu and shooting toad. If it wasn't me, why has no one claimed it.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 24 2012 19:26 GMT
#1203
If you guys are contemplating switching off of Mattchew, why are you pursuing hopeless if his scum slip was defending Mattchew?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 24 2012 19:27 GMT
#1204
Because they think I'm trying to get towncred by defending a mislynch
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 24 2012 19:27 GMT
#1205
On August 25 2012 04:26 heist wrote:
If you guys are contemplating switching off of Mattchew, why are you pursuing hopeless if his scum slip was defending Mattchew?


Because an eleventh hour defense of someone who has an overwhelming landslide of votes on them is suspicious. The only legitimate reason to "try" so late to save someone is to look good after a mislynch, for being the lone beacon of truth in the deluded town, oh, by the way, let's lynch X, Y, or Z, for leading the mislynch!
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 24 2012 19:30 GMT
#1206
On August 25 2012 04:26 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 04:23 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On August 25 2012 04:20 Mattchew wrote:
would a med saved person be alerted they were saved?

and would someone be alerted they were shot, even if they are a vet


and wiggles why has no one claimed the hit on toad then?

What are you talking about?

I am talking about me being pikachu and shooting toad. If it wasn't me, why has no one claimed it.

I didn't say it wasn't you, I said that at the time that Jingle claimed, there was no indication that it was you, and thus no pressure on him to claim. His claim didn't come out of pressure, it came out of wanting to clear up confusion, a town motivation.

Also, in a theoretical world where it wasn't you who killed toad, they probably wouldn't claim for the same wrong reasons 90% of people don't claim their vig shots.
you gotta dance
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 24 2012 19:30 GMT
#1207
On August 25 2012 04:26 heist wrote:
If you guys are contemplating switching off of Mattchew, why are you pursuing hopeless if his scum slip was defending Mattchew?

His scumslip was calling Mattchew town. Have you seen the flip? I did not.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 24 2012 19:32 GMT
#1208
On August 25 2012 04:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 04:26 Mattchew wrote:
On August 25 2012 04:23 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On August 25 2012 04:20 Mattchew wrote:
would a med saved person be alerted they were saved?

and would someone be alerted they were shot, even if they are a vet


and wiggles why has no one claimed the hit on toad then?

What are you talking about?

I am talking about me being pikachu and shooting toad. If it wasn't me, why has no one claimed it.

I didn't say it wasn't you, I said that at the time that Jingle claimed, there was no indication that it was you, and thus no pressure on him to claim. His claim didn't come out of pressure, it came out of wanting to clear up confusion, a town motivation.

Also, in a theoretical world where it wasn't you who killed toad, they probably wouldn't claim for the same wrong reasons 90% of people don't claim their vig shots.

wait so what do you think of me
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 24 2012 19:32 GMT
#1209
On August 25 2012 04:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 04:26 Mattchew wrote:
On August 25 2012 04:23 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On August 25 2012 04:20 Mattchew wrote:
would a med saved person be alerted they were saved?

and would someone be alerted they were shot, even if they are a vet


and wiggles why has no one claimed the hit on toad then?

What are you talking about?

I am talking about me being pikachu and shooting toad. If it wasn't me, why has no one claimed it.

I didn't say it wasn't you, I said that at the time that Jingle claimed, there was no indication that it was you, and thus no pressure on him to claim. His claim didn't come out of pressure, it came out of wanting to clear up confusion, a town motivation.

Also, in a theoretical world where it wasn't you who killed toad, they probably wouldn't claim for the same wrong reasons 90% of people don't claim their vig shots.


Yeah. As town, lynching for the wrong reason is bad. If I'd have not claimed there, it would have been as bad as if I'd fakeclaimed a DT role to try and force a lynch through on him.

If you're on the right guy, it should be evident. If you're unsure (which you usually should be) you should be willing to consider evidence to the contrary, even if it means your entire case may fall apart later.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
August 24 2012 19:33 GMT
#1210
On August 25 2012 04:26 heist wrote:
If you guys are contemplating switching off of Mattchew, why are you pursuing hopeless if his scum slip was defending Mattchew?


On August 25 2012 02:47 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 02:39 Hopeless1der wrote:
How does saving Matt really get me towncred tomorrow? He lives, we're both scum. He dies, I'm scummy for trying and failing to save him.
Be back in an hour or so. Please actually read through the defense I posted and tell me why its insufficient.


The point is you were here multiple times today, and decided to defend Mattchew in a huge post 3 hours before lynch. Even though you knew you were not voting mattchew hours and hours ago. You do this with not enough time to get majority to switch, therefore mattchew most likely gets lynched. If he flips scum, you can say your right. Your motive isn't to try and save someone you think is town, your motive is to make yourself look good. If you wanted to save him, you woulda defended him in the post where you voted for wriggles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
August 24 2012 19:33 GMT
#1211
On August 25 2012 04:11 JingleHell wrote:
Misder, since you're so convinced I'm scum, and you just posted a giant wall of text, I'm sure you can answer a couple of questions regarding the stupidity and ignorance of your accusation.

1: Why are you pointing out how long it took me to vote Mattchew after posting a case? The vote happened RIGHT AFTER THE DAYPOST. I made the case during the night.

2: In what retarded world does my roleclaim, which prevented Mattchew from being lynched for lying about his KP, somehow make me scum?

Scum are dancing to the tune, turn up the heat. Hopeless and Misder at a minimum, probably Grush as well.


1. I looked and you’re right. Nothing more to say besides, I just looked at your filter.
2. Again, that is the one post that keeps on bothering me. Read my response to Wiggles though for my thinking.

On August 25 2012 04:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Misder, why do you think Jinglehell would claim his role even though as you say yourself, "Although as scum, there really wouldn’t be any point in telling us that he used his ability on Mattchew"? The reasoning you provide after doesn't hold up, because there was no pressure on him to reveal anything. There was no indication Toad was killed by Matt, it could have been any electric type move. As well, I could easily have been mediced, jailed, bussed, a vet, etc., to explain why I wasn't dead. So if there wasn't pressure on him to claim, why would he do it?

Wiggles asks why I think that JingleHell has pressure to say anything when there is a realm of possibilities: my answer- 1) Give himself town-cred 2) I don’t mean pressure from the town; I mean pressure felt internally. When I wrote that, I thought that if I was scum, I would probably say something about it too.

And bussing your own town isn't good Hopeless.
Whaaaa?
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
August 24 2012 19:37 GMT
#1212
Really, this lynch is between 3 townies. This is ridiculous.
Whaaaa?
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 24 2012 19:37 GMT
#1213
On August 25 2012 04:27 Kenpachi wrote:
##unvote Mattchew
##vote Hopeless1der

On August 25 2012 04:28 Kenpachi wrote:
##unvote Hopeless1der
##vote Mr. Wiggles



ken makin moves
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
August 24 2012 19:37 GMT
#1214
On August 25 2012 04:33 Misder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 04:11 JingleHell wrote:
Misder, since you're so convinced I'm scum, and you just posted a giant wall of text, I'm sure you can answer a couple of questions regarding the stupidity and ignorance of your accusation.

1: Why are you pointing out how long it took me to vote Mattchew after posting a case? The vote happened RIGHT AFTER THE DAYPOST. I made the case during the night.

2: In what retarded world does my roleclaim, which prevented Mattchew from being lynched for lying about his KP, somehow make me scum?

Scum are dancing to the tune, turn up the heat. Hopeless and Misder at a minimum, probably Grush as well.


1. I looked and you’re right. Nothing more to say besides, I just looked at your filter.
2. Again, that is the one post that keeps on bothering me. Read my response to Wiggles though for my thinking.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 04:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Misder, why do you think Jinglehell would claim his role even though as you say yourself, "Although as scum, there really wouldn’t be any point in telling us that he used his ability on Mattchew"? The reasoning you provide after doesn't hold up, because there was no pressure on him to reveal anything. There was no indication Toad was killed by Matt, it could have been any electric type move. As well, I could easily have been mediced, jailed, bussed, a vet, etc., to explain why I wasn't dead. So if there wasn't pressure on him to claim, why would he do it?

Wiggles asks why I think that JingleHell has pressure to say anything when there is a realm of possibilities: my answer- 1) Give himself town-cred 2) I don’t mean pressure from the town; I mean pressure felt internally. When I wrote that, I thought that if I was scum, I would probably say something about it too.

And bussing your own town isn't good Hopeless.


The only logical way jinglehell would claim their as scum, would be if mattchew was scum and jingle was trying to give mattchew some credibility after being under heat. But I doubt they are both scum if you look at how hard jingle pushed mattchew for the majority of the. Why would jinglehell claim if mattchew was town? He wouldn't. Because it makes mattchew look like a liar, and mattchew was already being pushed for the lynch so jinglehell could have sat back and let the townie get lynched. So based on the claims, I think if you think Jinglehell is scum, you almost need to think mattchew is scum by association.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 24 2012 19:38 GMT
#1215
Anyone else think it's just strengthening that correlation I noticed between Misder, Hopeless, and possibly Grush as well that Misder is rapidly approaching double his previous postcount ever since I accused Hopeless? Especially since he's sounding slightly insane?

[image loading]


Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
August 24 2012 19:40 GMT
#1216
EBWOP: @misder since the majority of the focus of your jingle case is surrounding the motives and timing for his claim, and based on other earlier cases.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 24 2012 19:40 GMT
#1217
By the way, Memen, you know your unvote was never followed by a vote? I'm trying to keep track of them.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
August 24 2012 19:41 GMT
#1218
On August 25 2012 04:40 JingleHell wrote:
By the way, Memen, you know your unvote was never followed by a vote? I'm trying to keep track of them.


Im between misder and hopeless at the moment, Im having a hard time believing they are both scum but they are trying their best to both look scummish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 24 2012 19:42 GMT
#1219
On August 25 2012 04:37 Misder wrote:
Really, this lynch is between 3 townies. This is ridiculous.

Lol what the fuck , you never called any of them before town or scum. You had NO THREAD PRESENCE and now somehow you care
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 24 2012 19:43 GMT
#1220
On August 25 2012 04:41 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 04:40 JingleHell wrote:
By the way, Memen, you know your unvote was never followed by a vote? I'm trying to keep track of them.


Im between misder and hopeless at the moment, Im having a hard time believing they are both scum but they are trying their best to both look scummish.


Consider Misder's timing of suddenly showing up. Almost like he was in the QT, and came to his buddy's defense. Although I think if I switch, it kills Misder, so hey, I will if I need to.
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