EPTPTP3 - Pikachu's Revenge - Page 62
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On August 25 2012 04:43 Hopeless1der wrote: No Kurumi I'm Scum, remember? Look at me look at me !! Well, your attempt to look sarcastic aside, Misder only looks truly scummy right now because he suddenly showed up when attention shifted to you. Almost like he suddenly cared about the lynch. Otherwise he'd only look about 85%, instead of 97%. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On August 25 2012 04:43 Hopeless1der wrote: No Kurumi I'm Scum, remember? Look at me look at me !! You both are going to die. You will never see day 3. | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
On August 25 2012 04:37 Mementoss wrote: The only logical way jinglehell would claim their as scum, would be if mattchew was scum and jingle was trying to give mattchew some credibility after being under heat. But I doubt they are both scum if you look at how hard jingle pushed mattchew for the majority of the. Why would jinglehell claim if mattchew was town? He wouldn't. Because it makes mattchew look like a liar, and mattchew was already being pushed for the lynch so jinglehell could have sat back and let the townie get lynched. So based on the claims, I think if you think Jinglehell is scum, you almost need to think mattchew is scum by association. No, I definitely agree that they both aren't scum. It kinda makes him look like a liar, but not really at all when you consider that this is PTP (the part where the KP ended up being 1.0 instead of 0.5 as Mattchew claimed doesn't have anything to do with JingleHell's claim). The reason why people were voting for him was because of his Day 1 posts, not because he claimed Pikachu. Claiming a vig role, if Mattchew did end up getting lynched and flip as a town Pikachu, then it would look even worse if there was a role cop or something that found out that he was able to confuse. I don't agree that if JingleHell is scum, Mattchew has to be scum. Am I the only one to think this? | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On August 25 2012 04:49 Misder wrote: No, I definitely agree that they both aren't scum. It kinda makes him look like a liar, but not really at all when you consider that this is PTP (the part where the KP ended up being 1.0 instead of 0.5 as Mattchew claimed doesn't have anything to do with JingleHell's claim). The reason why people were voting for him was because of his Day 1 posts, not because he claimed Pikachu. Claiming a vig role, if Mattchew did end up getting lynched and flip as a town Pikachu, then it would look even worse if there was a role cop or something that found out that he was able to confuse. I don't agree that if JingleHell is scum, Mattchew has to be scum. Am I the only one to think this? I find this question funny for one reason. It implies you "thought". You managing to single-handedly take the scum team out of the frying pan and into the fire so quickly suggests the opposite. Welcome to hell. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On August 25 2012 04:52 JingleHell wrote: I find this question funny for one reason. It implies you "thought". You managing to single-handedly take the scum team out of the frying pan and into the fire so quickly suggests the opposite. Welcome to hell. Sorry what. If mattchew flipped, we would have his role PM. I wrote jinglehells role and can confirm he only has the one ability claimed. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On August 25 2012 04:54 Mementoss wrote: Sorry what. If mattchew flipped, we would have his role PM. I wrote jinglehells role and can confirm he only has the one ability claimed. Clearly you, myself, and Mattchew are the remaining scum, roleplaying Team Rocket from the original show, with our utterly inane plot that's destined to failure! I think we cut it too close though. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
I'm leaning town on you now. I don't really see a scum motivation in your posts, and your play doesn't seem malicious. So, I don't want to lynch you right now. I'm going to decide who I'm voting for between misder/hopeless shortly. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
He seems oddly concerned with the roles and actively tries to pursue an agenda of revealing the potential roles in the game. However, he is very hesitant in his approaches in both cases and lacks conviction. Why bring it up unless you were hoping to garner support for an unpopular plan? One that is far more risky for town than mafia. On August 21 2012 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote: Most roles can be equated to standard mafia roles. You can deal KP? Your a vig role. You can protect? medic role. You can edit your posts? Okay, this one doesn't exist. Short of everyone claiming what role they created (Which might be useful, but a great way for scum to fuck with us), we have to use terms that everyone else will understand. Once we get through a round of Night actions, (assuming decon\greymist use the ability names) we'd be able to refer to specifics. Can you say wishy-washy? Hints that everyone role claiming "might be useful". But then mitigates his support for mass role claims with the statement that "scum can fuck with us". On August 22 2012 14:03 Hopeless1der wrote: Okay first off, why is discussion stopped at night? I get that in a regular mafia game this is the norm, but I was under the impression that it was due to scum having NK'ing ability and town having limited to no NK abilities. Is this wrong somehow? Or do people really think that town doesn't have KP in a PTP game? So, since the thread is dead on scumhunting, is anyone up for discussing role creation? Diglett killed and flipped, so free game right? I will note the following: So...until Drazerk is willing to explain wtf he did, I'm guessing we do nothing other than debate the merits of "knowing" what's out there. Note I am NOT ADVOCATING ROLE CLAIMS. I'm saying that if we are to do anything, it would be say something like "I picked for pokemon and gave it such and such ability(ies)" I don't necessarily know what I would do with this information, but as long as we don't get too caught up in role discussions, I think town is better off with as much info as we can generate. Again - Drazerk has said doing this will break the game somehow, so please do not actually reveal anything until he has responded. Aside from that, my strongest read is Zephirdd, and not just for his vote against me. If need be I'll get that together sooner, but it looks like I should save it for the deadline. And yes, I've skipped the part where I throw out a shitty defense for my ninja vote. My play was poor and I am deservedly under suspicion for it. Being legitimately active is going to go much further in changing people's opinions of me than trying to defend myself right now. I'll be around for a half hour or so before bed. Another mention of role creation and again tries to put out feelers for outing all potential roles, not necessarily our own. He sees no real need for this information, ("I don't necessarily know what to do with this information") but still maintains its for the town benefit. Again, were you in support of this at that time or not? Why bring it up repeatedly? You mention role reveals, but provide no concrete benefits, only vague statements such as "It might be useful to town" & "town is better off". | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
This is NOT an official count, however. Can we get an official votecount please? Of course, at this point, a sudden shift of the vote onto anyone who isn't scum would be scumclaims, so we should be doing good now. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
Scum really need to make some kind of power moves right now and build up cred for the late game, or else they're going to get rolled over by all the blues. His play makes sense in that framework. Scum can't just sheep along of they're going to lose to DTs or something, haha. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On August 25 2012 05:20 Mementoss wrote: I've decided to vote hopeless because the case around hopeless seems to be based on scum motivation and pushing scum adgenda, while the case I and others have put forth about misder seems to be about his lack of posting/ bad luck timing of post/ no opinion at all. I think more scum are caught when their motivations are found and more bad townies are found through nitpicking of posts. Much as I mostly agree, I think if town vigi KP go to Misder and Grush following the lynch, we have solid odds of being rid of Team Rocket by morning. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On August 25 2012 05:25 Mementoss wrote: Grush hasn't said anything about anything since BC died. Also, where is VE? My point about Grush actually trying to do something besides troll still stands, I think. Especially with the cute little excessive interest between the three of them. I mean come on. Would anyone who wasn't on a scumteam with Grush actually be concerned about the possibility of a temp ban resulting in a modkill, even if they don't consider his uselessness to be worthy of a policy lynch? | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
I am Hitmonlee and I hit HiroPro with Quick Blitz Night 1. It should have dealt 0.5kp. I did not claim because he did not die, nor did he try to identify his assailant. I have no confimation of whether or not he took damage. My reasoning was that he was involved in the imallinson wagon but lurked the rest of the time and wasn't an active part of discussions. It was pretty much guaranteed that someone on that wagon was scum, and really, I just took a swing. I didn't breadcrumb my hit. I think Mattchew is town, as I've already pointed out. My read on wiggles is furthered by his inactivity since BC died. He said he'd look into who he wants to lynch, but didn't make a call there until significantly later than would have been useful. He disappeared from the thread and no one wanted to discuss him. He comes back in time to seal my fate and WIFOM his vote on me. Please look into him if/when I die. Misder's return post is very scummy. See mementoss' filter for why. He also brought up shit about Jingle at the last minute when there is almost no chance of getting anyone to swap votes onto him. Look how much flak I took when I was trying to defend Matt. He's just flailing and being disruptive. As random speculation, I think Jingle is town and Mementoss is scum. Gut feelings at this point. There seemed to have been very lackluster input from the vets today. Don't really know what to make of it. Please grill me for whatever questions you have. I'll do my best in the next half hour. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On August 25 2012 05:28 Hopeless1der wrote: Screw the last minute will, I'll do this now: I am Hitmonlee and I hit HiroPro with Quick Blitz Night 1. It should have dealt 0.5kp. I did not claim because he did not die, nor did he try to identify his assailant. I have no confimation of whether or not he took damage. My reasoning was that he was involved in the imallinson wagon but lurked the rest of the time and wasn't an active part of discussions. It was pretty much guaranteed that someone on that wagon was scum, and really, I just took a swing. I didn't breadcrumb my hit. I think Mattchew is town, as I've already pointed out. My read on wiggles is furthered by his inactivity since BC died. He said he'd look into who he wants to lynch, but didn't make a call there until significantly later than would have been useful. He disappeared from the thread and no one wanted to discuss him. He comes back in time to seal my fate and WIFOM his vote on me. Please look into him if/when I die. Misder's return post is very scummy. See mementoss' filter for why. He also brought up shit about Jingle at the last minute when there is almost no chance of getting anyone to swap votes onto him. Look how much flak I took when I was trying to defend Matt. He's just flailing and being disruptive. As random speculation, I think Jingle is town and Mementoss is scum. Gut feelings at this point. There seemed to have been very lackluster input from the vets today. Don't really know what to make of it. Please grill me for whatever questions you have. I'll do my best in the next half hour. Anyone can confirm the role? | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
we should kill Wiggles and possibly Hiro. was he even around for this day? if he was, hes scum. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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