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YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 24 2012 01:27 GMT
#1080
Detective should leave breadcrumbs. We should all post breadcrumb posts so scums don't know which one of us is the detective. This should be done minutes before deadline, preferably.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 24 2012 06:30 GMT
#1085
On July 24 2012 11:13 Hopeless1der wrote:
What proof is there that there is a detective?


There isn't one. I sort of assume there would be either vig or detective though, since it seems like we don't have medic.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 24 2012 06:42 GMT
#1086
Let there be detective, LOL. Please...

I am pretty sure there are 2 scums left, and 5 townies. So after scums NK, there would be 2 scums and 4 townies, which is LYLO in the absence of medic. So here, I would encourage the vigilante, if there is one, to target someone he thinks is scum. Even in the case that he's wrong, there would be 2 scums and 3 townies in the beginning of Day 3, so we are still LYLO with better chance to correctly pick the scum. But if vigilante gets one of the scums, we will be so much better off. So this way, we get two chances to find the scum rather than one.

And either way, we should think about start claiming beginning of tomorrow.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 24 2012 16:59 GMT
#1088
On July 25 2012 01:56 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 15:42 YourHarry wrote:
And either way, we should think about start claiming beginning of tomorrow.
No point, nothing to gain. Everyone will claim VT regardless.


Are you trying to role hunt?
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 24 2012 23:58 GMT
#1100
Time controller should be a power role. Power: You get to go back one day. Dead will be resurrected.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 25 2012 00:15 GMT
#1101
Hapha, hopeless, who's going to die?
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 25 2012 02:23 GMT
#1109
Dude, guys. This is MYLO. We should NOT vote. You can FOS, but voting could allow scums to bandwagon and end the game immediately.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 25 2012 02:24 GMT
#1110
I already claimed: Vanilla townie.

I hope there is a detective. I think there is, because vigilante didn't make the vig kill last night.

Detective, if you are there, please share your report with us.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 25 2012 03:12 GMT
#1112
On July 25 2012 11:56 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 11:23 YourHarry wrote:
Dude, guys. This is MYLO. We should NOT vote. You can FOS, but voting could allow scums to bandwagon and end the game immediately.


I don't mind votes if they lead to discussion. Remember, votes are easily changeable, especially with just under 48 hours left until the lynch deadline. What are your thoughts on the suspicions brought forth so far? (Hopeless1der and Calgar)


This is MYLO. Suppose two townies temporarily place their votes incorrectly. Two scums can simply add their votes on top of the two incorrect votes, to end the game.

I don't know. I've been wrong every single time in this game. I desperately hope for detective's help.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 25 2012 03:15 GMT
#1113
Hapha, are you vanilla?
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 25 2012 04:01 GMT
#1115
On July 25 2012 12:36 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 12:15 YourHarry wrote:
Hapha, are you vanilla?


Vanilla Townie (Senior?) indeed - thought I didn't need to make it clear, since I'd have roleclaimed already if I was blue.


Yea, that's what I assumed but just to make it clear.

I don't know... I suck

Someone help LOL.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 25 2012 07:48 GMT
#1117
On July 20 2012 03:34 drwiggl3s wrote:
I'm sorry Jingle but I really missed your breadcrumb as well and I've been steadily reading this thread.. so I'm not sure even with 3 mafia members that any of them actually caught it. And if they did, I don't agree with your speculations either. Throughout D1 and N1 you and Hap were arguing 50% of the time and spamming up the thread against each others post. Not saying this because you're both mafia, but it's definitely doing mafia's job for them. This is why I think neither of you were NK'ed.

As for Calgar, he was harsh pushing for iamperfection. Perhaps iamperfection is town and so mafia were happy to just let Calgar continue his case into D2? Or perhaps Calgar is the "obviously town acting" mafia scum you were talking about.

Either way, Mafia killed Evul. A lurker, who was going to be replaced. Netting us literally 0 information we can use, other than WIFOM.

For my reads right now, I wouldn't mind testing the waters with a Calgar lynch. Getting one of the major players out of the way and see what he flips. This could tell us a lot about iamperfection as well as others who are resistant (or soft defending) a Calgar lynch.


This is so much WIFOM, but I think based on drwiggles blatant attempt to benefit from my mislynch, I want to believe that drwiggles does not believing in bussing... which would mean that calgar is town. But then... drwiggles never really voted for calgar, just distanced himself. Even "hinted" that calgar is acting obviously townie.

Hapha: Like you, I also found calgar's initial reaction to Jingle's turnaround accusation against drwiggles. His question "is he a better lynch than harry?" was very suspicious. While he said he found drwiggles suspicious, he almost didn't want to vote against drwiggles until it became clear that drwiggles is going to be lynched no matter what. Then, he switched his vote but definitely explained himself:

On July 21 2012 04:54 calgar wrote:
Ok, I’ll be switching my vote to drwiggl3s here.

I also want to propose a temporary solution to iamperfection. I may have been reading his actions on the wrong side of the coin. I’ve said in my previous posts that it boiled down to whether he was mafia or confused townie. At the time we didn’t have anything better to go off of so I considered it to be our best vote in order to maximize the % of killing mafia. What he’s said recently in his vote on YourHarry made me change my mind. His defense of YourHarry shows his reluctance to put the vote there, so he shouldn’t have any trouble changing to match with jingle again.

Anyways, what made me doubt my strong stance previously has a lot to do with the flurry of posting last night and today. YourHarry seems to have been pressured into making several revealing plays. Drwiggl3s has positioned himself to look good after the lynch. We can evaluate these more closely, soon. When iamperfection said that his best town read was jingle I understood about him following jingle’s vote. I’ve been sort of doing the same with hapa. Now, to ‘prove’ his townie-ness, let’s get him to agree to vote with jingle every vote. He says he believes jingle is essentially 100% town so he’s going to follow him. As long as he does so, then we have his vote with the town side no matter what his role is. He shouldn’t have any problem agreeing to this since he has said he wants to follow jingle’s vote. We can use this as a temporary stall to eliminate him from our suspects pool and try to root out member #2 after drwiggl3s. As long as he is voting with us, he is a temporary ally.

##Unvote
##Vote drwiggl3s



Then he comes up with a temporary solution to iamperfection, who he thinks is scum. Next day, Jingle conveniently (though expectedly) dies, which means his temporary solution is no more. Yet he fails to pursue iamperfection next day. Scummy, indeed.

But then, scum calgar may wanted to kill me, since I suspected him strongly on day 2. Granted that Jingle's death was expected, I thought I would have died. Maybe he wanted to go after the detective he thought may have existed, though. And at least a little bit, Jingle's inability to prevent NK on night 2 could mean that calgar is scum. This is because Jingle believed that calgar was town, and I don't think Jingle jailed calgar. So, most things that happened seem to be consistent with calgar being scum. And I was quite sure that he was scum on day 2. Although I was wrong about Jingle, my case against calgar is still valid independent of Jingle being town.

FOS Calgar

Hapha, when Jingle started accusing drwiggles, what made you so obviously sure that drwiggles was scum? And you felt so adamant about everyone taking their votes from me. You were so sure?
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 25 2012 07:49 GMT
#1118
EDBWOP: Granted that Jingle's death was expected, I thought I would have died on N3.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 25 2012 08:29 GMT
#1119
Vote No Lynch

Rather than deciding on who to kill today, I strongly support no lynch. This would give us more information and force the scums to make the next move. Everyone, please remove your votes.

Also, I am noticing that the discussion is getting more sparse. Let's keep the discussion going.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 25 2012 08:29 GMT
#1120
##Vote No Lynch
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 25 2012 08:59 GMT
#1121
FOS Speedbump and Calgar for being inactive and possibly lurking. Come share your thoughts with us.

Thanks Hopeless and iamperfection for posting your reads. Please continue to chime in as well as join me in voting for no lynch.

Hapha, what do you think about other people's case on calgar?
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 25 2012 08:59 GMT
#1122
Wait, I just realized that calgar CANNOT be the scum...
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 25 2012 09:01 GMT
#1123
Wait, never mind. Calgar could still be the scum, but town calgar means either hopeless1 or iamperfection (or both) MUST be scums. This is because, if both hopeless1 and iamperfection are town voting for calgar, the scums would have already mislynched calgar.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 26 2012 01:10 GMT
#1138
On July 25 2012 21:04 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 18:01 YourHarry wrote:
Wait, never mind. Calgar could still be the scum, but town calgar means either hopeless1 or iamperfection (or both) MUST be scums. This is because, if both hopeless1 and iamperfection are town voting for calgar, the scums would have already mislynched calgar.
Would you clarify this? The vote would just pile up until the end of the 48 hour period right, giving them time to switch away?


Yes you are right. I stand corrected.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 26 2012 08:52 GMT
#1148
I still find calgar suspicious. His response when drwiggle was about to get lynched is definitely scummy. And he switched when it was obvious that drwiggle was going to get lynched regardless, and he made this "oh i am going to switch now" type of post.

And then he' started attacking the lurker in speedbump, who calgar could have thought would have gave up without much defense. And for the most part, I buy speedbump's defense. I will have to re-read though.

Thoughts?
Never!
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