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tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
July 18 2012 04:09 GMT
#560
On July 18 2012 12:53 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 12:47 tube wrote:
On July 18 2012 12:39 JingleHell wrote:
On July 18 2012 12:35 tube wrote:
I have no idea what you're talking about with this "me too" attitude.

And are you trying to say it's too easy or it's too quiet? Make up your mind. When someone makes few posts, and those few posts are also very scummy, that doesn't somehow give him a probable chance of being innocent.


I'm saying too easy and too quiet are the same general thing here. He's an easy target. "It's quiet, too quiet" *Sudden huge influx of random plot villain A shows up to murder every fucking thing in sight*.

When something looks too simple, too easy, or too obvious, sometimes it really is. As was obviously the case with... well, Obvious.

But hey, let's go back to your logic. When someone posts next to nothing useful, and it's mostly obviously scummy, lynch that mofo. Who's cool with lynching tube on his own logic?

Too easy and too quiet are definitely not the same thing. If the few posts he made didn't scream scum, then you would only be saying "too quiet", which doesn't implicate him in anything.

How was that the case with Obvious? He made a good number of posts until his summary, and retrospectively some of them were helping town and some just looked plain scummy. Perfection, on the other hand, has only made posts that have not helped town in any way.

So now all my posts are both useless and scummy? Mind going into further detail?


I'm very specifically talking about "too easy" and "too quiet" as the movie/book lines they get used as, a cliched precursor to pure trouble. That's as a comparison to the plausible situation I see with someone asking for a vigi shot against perfection. He's such a simple, obvious sort of target that it makes SENSE to suggest it, and if there's a scum motive, it kills two birds with one stone.

Obvious was easy to see as scum, and got lynched, and it turned out to have been too easy. Too good to be true.

And saying the majority of your posts are useless and easily seen as scummy? Let's go back to yesterday, the posting you did before your sudden change of heart, and a bit of your posting since the attention was lifted off of you.

You've been highly active, but not in a serious sort of way. Oh, wait, let me guess, we still don't have enough information, right? Because yesterday, that's why you weren't saying anything useful. Not enough information. Well now you want Iamperfection to die based on NO DAMN INFORMATION.

And you're STILL ignoring my question about why your theoretical scum Jingle diverts attention off your theoretical townie you, and onto the (now) confirmed townie Obvious, when I could have just sat back and watched the chaos with MUCH less attention on me.

And your entire reasoning to let him live for now is that he looks too scummy to be scum. Because that's much more reasonable than suggesting that he actually he is scum. Again, I and other users don't see that realistic probability that he's townie that you so easily seem to.

Obvious getting lynched was his own misplay, he didn't defend himself at all. Not exactly the town's fault for lynching someone who looked scummy. Your suggesting that perfection's case is the same is pretty out there, when perfection is much easier to see as scum now that Obvious flipped town.

It's also very dumb of you to push the idea that I still hold no suspicions against anyone due to a lack of information when it's obvious I'm presenting my own analysis now that things have actually happened.
And if perfection's few, scummy posts are NO DAMN INFORMATION to you, what does it take for you to be convinced that someone's scum?

Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
July 18 2012 05:19 GMT
#562
I did make up my mind, when did I switch between the two stances.
Yeah nobody wants to argue with you, all you do is make personal attacks that you seem to think make your argument more convincing.
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
July 20 2012 19:24 GMT
#870
sorry guys i havent been following much lately but I still think perfection is a good lynch

##Vote iamperfection
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
July 20 2012 21:21 GMT
#917
On July 21 2012 04:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Furthermore, I'll be re-opening my suspicions on tube tomorrow for this vote. (Mafia bandwagon to the rescue?)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351398&currentpage=44#870

yeah definitely that simple lol
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
July 21 2012 00:53 GMT
#962
i voted perfection because i didn't see why he was cleared of suspicion
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
July 21 2012 16:56 GMT
#1000
Relative periods of inactivity are not scumtells, they're quite frankly just times when someone doesn't feel like playing. A bandwagon on me doesn't tell the town anything because it was so easy for mafia to make me an attractive lynch, despite that the only thing I can be indicted for is inactivity.

I can't speak for hopeless or fulla but you guys are going to find some difficulty making sense of things when I flip town.
Also, my vote on perfection reflects my confusion as to why the suspicion on him is suddenly cleared. Wiggles was undoubtedly going to be the d2 lynch anyway.



Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
July 21 2012 17:09 GMT
#1002
In addition, Wiggles arguing for my lynch when nobody else was isn't in any way indicative of some convoluted attempt at bussing. He was trying to look pro-town by scumhunting random posts of mine while everyone else looked at Obvious.
After I argued with him with him being full aware that I'm actually town, it's in his best interest to back off since Obvious was an equally good lynch in his eyes.
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
July 21 2012 17:10 GMT
#1003
On July 22 2012 02:09 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 01:56 tube wrote:
Relative periods of inactivity are not scumtells, they're quite frankly just times when someone doesn't feel like playing. A bandwagon on me doesn't tell the town anything because it was so easy for mafia to make me an attractive lynch, despite that the only thing I can be indicted for is inactivity.

I can't speak for hopeless or fulla but you guys are going to find some difficulty making sense of things when I flip town.
Also, my vote on perfection reflects my confusion as to why the suspicion on him is suddenly cleared. Wiggles was undoubtedly going to be the d2 lynch anyway.





One of the prime resaons i became suspicious in first place was my lurking on the first day. You now use that in your defense of yourself but then vote for me. That dosent make sense and if you are town seems like a careless use of your vote. Regardless what are your thoughts now do still think im the prime suspect and if not what are your thoughts going forward.

and
fos tube

You're suspicious for the few posts you did make on the first day, they did nothing but vote on the person who already had the most votes.
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
July 22 2012 19:43 GMT
#1039
I said more than that.
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
July 23 2012 13:19 GMT
#1057
I didn't jump on the obvious bandwagon I saw reasons of my own to vote him and I think I was the second vote on him.
Wiggles was definitely going to die that day so I voted perfection to show that I still thought of him as scum.

"honestly mafia is laughing at you" wasn't at wiggles read the context again
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
July 23 2012 18:37 GMT
#1063
eh you guys are making a mistake lol
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