EPTAccused Vivax of being scumbuddies with him here.
Talis made his case on me not too long after and almost got me lynched.
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DropBear
Australia4399 Posts
Accused Vivax of being scumbuddies with him here. Talis made his case on me not too long after and almost got me lynched. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
Also what do you make of people lying about you pushing Talis | ||
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DropBear
Australia4399 Posts
On July 19 2012 23:26 Mattchew wrote: Dropbear what do you think of gonzaw, my case against him, and the most recent points I've brought up Also what do you make of people lying about you pushing Talis ??? I kind of did push talis on day 1, secondary to Vivax though. Same on day 2, I pushed solstice mostly with talis secondary. I never properly committed to a solely talis push, yes, but I brought him up regularly especially on day 1. I think your case against him is ok but not great. Kind of like solstice's case on you. I would lynch Keirathi over gonzaw and unless somewhere Risen has god-forbid actually answered my question, I would take Risen over both of them. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4399 Posts
On July 19 2012 23:05 strongandbig wrote: Wait a minute I was just reading Milton's filter and I saw this He makes a case on Talismania day 1, then jumps off him onto dropbear Then at the start of day 2 he still says dropbear is his top scum read for a large number of reasons, none of which changed when Talismania flipped scum. Note also that dropbear didn't actually vote Talismania despite "going after Talismania" being the main reason people think he's town. I think either dropbear/Gonzaw or dropbear/Milton is the scum team. ##vote: dropbear It is true that I never full on went after talismania. What is also true is that talismania most certainly went after me. | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
[u]gonzaw(4)/[u] Mattchew Risen sciberbia Miltonkram Keirathi(1) Keirathi Mattchew(2) gonzaw s0lstice Risen(1) DropBear DropBear(1) strongandbig pls tell me asap if theres any mistakes | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1833 Posts
There is a difference, its definitely there. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
What is the case on risen? My reasons for being suspicious of him are mostly that he let everyone think he had a scum investigation on Gonzaw and that Gonzaw was his top scum read, which was apparently a lie. However I'm not willing to lynch him for that yet. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On July 19 2012 23:30 DropBear wrote: ??? I kind of did push talis on day 1, secondary to Vivax though. Same on day 2, I pushed solstice mostly with talis secondary. I never properly committed to a solely talis push, yes, but I brought him up regularly especially on day 1. I think your case against him is ok but not great. Kind of like solstice's case on you. I would lynch Keirathi over gonzaw and unless somewhere Risen has god-forbid actually answered my question, I would take Risen over both of them. S&B, this is why I think dropbear is town, do you think a scum would actaully say out loud that a scum member lynch took a backseat to a mislynch? Aren't scum supposed to be paranoid and afraid to share? Has dropbear lied or appeared fearful of posting in the thread? | ||
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Miltonkram
United States310 Posts
Like, no offense to scib, but I would put a lot of the weight on Talis actually getting lynched on me forcing attention onto him. Scib's case was good and all, but would you agree that without me pushing individuals (not just HEY THREAD I MADE A CASE) was the real reason for all the votes on Talis? I wanted to get Talis lynched, something you flipflopped on a lot which I am extremely suspicious of. I think I did a pretty good job of bringing people from "I would lynch x,x, and talis," to actually voting and getting on Talis. But thats enough for patting myself on the back. I don't feel like every point s0Lstice made against Mattchew is great, but his point against this post stands out. If Mattchew did bus talismania, he stands to gain a lot by bringing his role in the lynch to the forefrunt of everyone's minds. I don't see how town benefits from Mattchew making this post. At best it's egoistic, at worst it's downright scummy. I'll be considering the possibility of a scum Mattchew. PS. I finally made it through gonzaw's filter. It'll be a little bit, but I'll post my findings as soon as I can. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4399 Posts
On July 19 2012 06:40 DropBear wrote: Dude there is no way of confirming either claim beyond a flip. I can see absolutely no reason why you have claimed so early, or for your breadcrumb. You were under suspicion from several people and were unlikely to be shot by mafia. Plus you say you had no scum hits so you had no real important information to give by claiming. I have no idea whether I believe you or not and this is as far as I can tell the only way, given the added complication of Milton's claim. He has all of a sudden exploded into life late on night 2 and I think lynching him would in most permutations give a good or at least minimal damage result, given the roleblocker claim by Milton. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
So reading dropbear's filter makes him seem scummy but talismania's filter is confusing - I need to think for a little bit. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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s0Lstice
United States1833 Posts
--read on Risen is based largely on consistency and logic --is Risen still displaying consistency and logic Mattchew? --not exactly, but that doesnt change my read in any way wtf???? | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On July 19 2012 23:40 Mattchew wrote: S&B, this is why I think dropbear is town, do you think a scum would actaully say out loud that a scum member lynch took a backseat to a mislynch? Aren't scum supposed to be paranoid and afraid to share? Has dropbear lied or appeared fearful of posting in the thread? Okay, this is also true. Not enough for me to put dropbear in the town category but enough for me to unvote him. ##unvote Now dropbear, what if Milton is scum and is lying? Or if he was jail kept for some unfathomable reason? Then lynching risen hurts us enormously. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On July 19 2012 23:51 s0Lstice wrote: also how are people ignoring the part of my case where Mattchew talks about his read on Risen? --read on Risen is based largely on consistency and logic --is Risen still displaying consistency and logic Mattchew? --not exactly, but that doesnt change my read in any way wtf???? woah, i said that it changed a little, but not nearly enough to make me think he is scum, or someone I would wanna lynch today. I want to lynch scum Gonzaw today, discussion of Risen's alignment can take place tonight when theres 7 town vs 1 scum | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1833 Posts
On July 19 2012 07:16 Mattchew wrote: Not exactly, because of his gonzaw play which I don't fully understand, but I don't think that changes my read on him in anyway not changing in any way means....not changing in any way. I don't think there's much wiggle room there. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4399 Posts
On July 19 2012 23:52 strongandbig wrote: Okay, this is also true. Not enough for me to put dropbear in the town category but enough for me to unvote him. ##unvote Now dropbear, what if Milton is scum and is lying? Or if he was jail kept for some unfathomable reason? Then lynching risen hurts us enormously. If Milton is scum and Risen is town is the bad permutation of the four I agree. However it still confirms you and solstice. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4399 Posts
On July 19 2012 23:51 s0Lstice wrote: also how are people ignoring the part of my case where Mattchew talks about his read on Risen? --read on Risen is based largely on consistency and logic --is Risen still displaying consistency and logic Mattchew? --not exactly, but that doesnt change my read in any way wtf???? Ok this is interesting. Mattchew? | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On July 19 2012 23:58 s0Lstice wrote: nope, here's what you said not changing in any way means....not changing in any way. I don't think there's much wiggle room there. Ugh I'm being hounded on a read that I honestly don't care about right now and gave a knee-jerk response to, to keep the focus of my discussions on Gonzaw What do you think of what I recently posted about Gonzaw? | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
I dont care about Risen's alignment today. He claimed cop, no one counter claimed, and no one has claimed any other blue role, which with a GF flip and no mason buddy claim makes me believe he is telling the truth. | ||
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