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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
I agree that he is undermining Sandro for no reason. It is also a really strange place to start. He pops in to doubt something that makes 0 sense to doubt and then disappears. No comment on Syllo, Foolishness, MZ, or anyone for that matter. I could get down with his lynch but I still prefer Syllo. Bugs, your thoughts on Syllo? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On July 17 2012 10:12 Chezinu wrote: ##Nuke BlazingHand Eveybody got a personal nuke, yours is fast but mine is slow! Where you get them I don't know, but everybody gots a personal nukeoooooooo!! Really? I didn't get a nuke  I feel left out now >< | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
I was hoping not to have to use this. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7432 Posts
Everybody's got a personal nuke, yours is pink but mine is blue! | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6784 Posts
No one has commented on my rastaban case yet :/. Also Chez edited: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678¤tpage=30#589 | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On July 17 2012 10:16 Blazinghand wrote: ##block: Chezinu I was hoping not to have to use this. I really hope you're trolling. You could've saved someone later. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7432 Posts
On July 17 2012 10:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: well shit things got interesting. No one has commented on my rastaban case yet :/. Also Chez edited: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678¤tpage=30#589 Oh really? | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On July 17 2012 10:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: well shit things got interesting. No one has commented on my rastaban case yet :/. Also Chez edited: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678¤tpage=30#589 He did not. Quote the post and you'll see it's a fake. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On July 17 2012 10:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: well shit things got interesting. No one has commented on my rastaban case yet :/. Also Chez edited: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678¤tpage=30#589 Cmon Meapak, you're better than that | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6784 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On July 17 2012 10:04 wherebugsgo wrote: <3 I believe you're the only one who even acknowledged my question. I agree with all three kills but I'd rank them differently. Wouldn't mind killing Blazingscum and layabout too, they're all scum. All scum, god damn them. Oh and Wiggles is AFK. Just thought I'd throw that out there, he hasn't posted yet. Possibly rolled scum again, the bastard. OH and BM is afk too. Wtf? Well hell, half the players are afk. W/e. Let's focus on one player first: Shit that makes layabout scummy: Read his filter first, it's not long at all. Keep that in mind for a second. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=233798 He does nothing but shed doubt on sandro's claim. He instantly disbelieves it without considering other evidence. He knows the caliber of sandro's town play yet he doesn't even acknowledge the possibility that sandro could be town. In addition he's stayed toward the back of the discussion, as he does when he is scum. When he is town he is out in front if he thinks people are being stupid. He will kick and scream and call people retarded if they're doing something he disagrees with. Clearly he disagrees with us sheeping sandro on his catch of Kurumi (otherwise why else would he shed doubt on it?) but notice that he actually doesn't do anything to stop the wagon. i.e. his doubt is unfounded and he wants to undermine sandro without taking heat for the action itself. Scum tactic. Kurumi is going to die at the end of the day. Thus, we should kill someone else. Let's kill this guy for now. Make the bad man fly. ##unvote ##vote layabout why do you want me dead? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On July 17 2012 10:08 marvellosity wrote: wbg, Wiggles isn't in the game sweetheart damn me On July 17 2012 10:11 Q-bert-Z wrote: Forgive me, I am not gifted with my fingers and must type slowly. I had not seen the launch when I typed up that post. Please though, do not take such a harsh tone, it will only serve to scare the shy ones away from contributing! We musn't have that. you should claim so that I don't kill you Are you mafia? On July 17 2012 10:12 Probulous wrote: Hmm I thought layabout was completely AFK. I didn't even realise he had posted. I agree that he is undermining Sandro for no reason. It is also a really strange place to start. He pops in to doubt something that makes 0 sense to doubt and then disappears. No comment on Syllo, Foolishness, MZ, or anyone for that matter. I could get down with his lynch but I still prefer Syllo. Bugs, your thoughts on Syllo? syllo is probably scum. I don't think he's lost his touch at scumhunting, so it's unlikely he's rolled town and is just super rusty. However, I don't find him scum for the same reasons other people find him scum (such as Foolishness.) While those reasons have merit, what popped out to me were these things: On July 16 2012 18:11 syllogism wrote: Really? That's the last person I would expect him to be, how do you figure? Anyway, you don't usually mind role playing (or trolling? which is it?) so do you just have a problem with sinani in particular doing that? On July 17 2012 03:26 syllogism wrote: Why do you "know" that you are an easy target to be "mislynched"? Has this been a common occurrence? Why do you keep mentioning WBG and comparing mattchew's play to his, it's not relevant at all. I agree with mattchew in the sense that some parts of your palmar "case" were weak and perhaps suspiciously so, but at the same time Palmar is clearly 100% trolling so far so he could very well be mafia. I think the only thing about his play that could point towards him being town is the fact he outed sinani's smurf, which isn't very smart to do in this setup if you are mafia as the person whose smurf you are outing may also be mafia. What do you think about meapak's play so far? Syllo almost immediately takes Palmar's claim that q bert is sinani seriously. As town he would at least question this initially. Palmar indeed says that he believes qbert to be sinani based off a /whois on IRC tracing to a Verizon IP, which is in itself rather unreliable because Verizon is a pretty popular ISP in the United States. I myself didn't find Palmar's "evidence" quite convincing given that qbert doesn't even sound like sinani. However, syllo apparently trusts Palmar's word based on the "if he were mafia he would have no interest in doing this" which is obviously false in this setup. I don't think syllo is that stupid as town to come to such a faulty conclusion on relatively flimsy evidence. So yes, I do think he's likely to be scum. However, I would very much like to give him the benefit of the doubt for now because I am more confident that layabout is scum (or at least I'd like more time to study the thread and other players as well) and as sandro has said it would be prudent to leave syllo alive for at least another cycle in the case that we are wrong. Even if he is scum syllo has the capability of catching other scum for us (in this setup particularly). It would be a bit foolish to let go of such a useful tool. Why not make mafia kill each other? | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
They're extremely wishy-washy, there's a lot of setup speculation, and his current vote was part of a bandwagon where he was merely parroting other's opinions.I'll continue to keep my eye on my other little fishes but they've been well discussed unlike rastaban who has been skirting the radar. Thoughts? (people who read the thread only please). You mean that case? What is there to say? He hasn't responded or come back to the thread. Pressure away, but the case as it stands is not worth a vote. You're essentially saying that he has been useless with a bandwagon vote. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6784 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Given that I only read the latter half of the thread (I'm still missing a lot of information given how long I've been gone) it's only a gut read for now. I'm reading everything now, but I wanted to get those thoughts I had written down first so that I can personally compare my gut reads to the reads I have based off objective evidence. Gut tells me you're scum. Could be wrong, gotta cement it first. On July 17 2012 10:24 marvellosity wrote: That last paragraph bugs... makes no sense :x Or, at least, if it did make sense, it no longer makes sense now you said it tell me what part doesn't make sense to you and I'll elaborate. On July 17 2012 10:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: so bugs, a tl;dr of that post would be "syllo is scum but let's not kill him." nope, tl;dr is: "I think syllo is scum but layabout is more likely to be scum. Therefore I'd like to kill layabout over syllo." | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6784 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
you're obviously not particularly confident in your read on him if you wrote what you wrote anyway. if you're fairly confident he's scum then you have no reason to believe he wouldn't try to mislead town if he lived. aren't you really saying you think he's scummy but you wanna give him a 2nd chance? | ||
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