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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 17 2012 01:32 GMT
#621
Layabout has made grand 2 posts. He, because he is an intelligent player has stopped and started asking questions. He did not mindlessly jump on my wagon. Sceptical type of play is favoured. I see NOTHING scummy in question what you see. You're trying to push some bullshit lynch wbg.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 17 2012 01:32 GMT
#622
His reason is that he hasn't told anyone to forcibly insert his fallace into their oral cavity.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
July 17 2012 01:33 GMT
#623
On July 17 2012 10:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I think the part where probulous and I got hung up is how you focus most of your post on syllo and provide reasons why he's scum, then tell us we should actually kill layabout and give no reasons.


whoa, why are you speaking FOR probulous?

holy shit are you scum with Probulous?

Probulous never mentioned that post, he hasn't replied to it yet. Also I already elaborated on why layabout is scum in the post before that.

So,

#1. You're talking for someone else
#2. You're not reading the thread

you really are scum!
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
July 17 2012 01:34 GMT
#624
On July 17 2012 10:31 marvellosity wrote:
bugs: - eh... i keep deleting :p

you're obviously not particularly confident in your read on him if you wrote what you wrote anyway. if you're fairly confident he's scum then you have no reason to believe he wouldn't try to mislead town if he lived.

aren't you really saying you think he's scummy but you wanna give him a 2nd chance?


read again.

LAYABOUT IS SCUMMIER.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 17 2012 01:34 GMT
#625
On July 17 2012 10:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 10:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I think the part where probulous and I got hung up is how you focus most of your post on syllo and provide reasons why he's scum, then tell us we should actually kill layabout and give no reasons.


whoa, why are you speaking FOR probulous?

holy shit are you scum with Probulous?

Probulous never mentioned that post, he hasn't replied to it yet. Also I already elaborated on why layabout is scum in the post before that.

So,

#1. You're talking for someone else
#2. You're not reading the thread

you really are scum!

At least we're agreeing on that one.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 17 2012 01:35 GMT
#626
On July 17 2012 10:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 10:31 marvellosity wrote:
bugs: - eh... i keep deleting :p

you're obviously not particularly confident in your read on him if you wrote what you wrote anyway. if you're fairly confident he's scum then you have no reason to believe he wouldn't try to mislead town if he lived.

aren't you really saying you think he's scummy but you wanna give him a 2nd chance?


read again.

LAYABOUT IS SCUMMIER.


yeah i got that. putting something in caps that you already said doesn't make it go in my head twice.

I'm not asking why you don't want to lynch him today, I'm questioning your line of thinking that someone you believe to be scum would help us find scum.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
July 17 2012 01:38 GMT
#627
On July 17 2012 10:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 10:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
On July 17 2012 10:31 marvellosity wrote:
bugs: - eh... i keep deleting :p

you're obviously not particularly confident in your read on him if you wrote what you wrote anyway. if you're fairly confident he's scum then you have no reason to believe he wouldn't try to mislead town if he lived.

aren't you really saying you think he's scummy but you wanna give him a 2nd chance?


read again.

LAYABOUT IS SCUMMIER.


yeah i got that. putting something in caps that you already said doesn't make it go in my head twice.

I'm not asking why you don't want to lynch him today, I'm questioning your line of thinking that someone you believe to be scum would help us find scum.


oh, that's simple.

This setup has most scum not knowing who the other scum are. It's in their best interest to actually look for scum, similar to a game that has multiple scum factions. Otherwise they'll just die isolated.

Thus, for a person like syllo to live, we force him to find other scum for us (we know that syllo is capable of this regardless of his alignment). As long as he is unwilling to do this we threaten him with death. If he is willing to help find other scum then he's either town or he's a scum who's helping us kill his own teammates.

When we have more information on how he's done this (given time) we can more effectively determine his alignment.

If, at any point, there are no players scummier than him, we just kill him.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 17 2012 01:40 GMT
#628
On July 17 2012 10:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 10:35 marvellosity wrote:
On July 17 2012 10:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
On July 17 2012 10:31 marvellosity wrote:
bugs: - eh... i keep deleting :p

you're obviously not particularly confident in your read on him if you wrote what you wrote anyway. if you're fairly confident he's scum then you have no reason to believe he wouldn't try to mislead town if he lived.

aren't you really saying you think he's scummy but you wanna give him a 2nd chance?


read again.

LAYABOUT IS SCUMMIER.


yeah i got that. putting something in caps that you already said doesn't make it go in my head twice.

I'm not asking why you don't want to lynch him today, I'm questioning your line of thinking that someone you believe to be scum would help us find scum.


oh, that's simple.

This setup has most scum not knowing who the other scum are. It's in their best interest to actually look for scum, similar to a game that has multiple scum factions. Otherwise they'll just die isolated.

Thus, for a person like syllo to live, we force him to find other scum for us (we know that syllo is capable of this regardless of his alignment). As long as he is unwilling to do this we threaten him with death. If he is willing to help find other scum then he's either town or he's a scum who's helping us kill his own teammates.

When we have more information on how he's done this (given time) we can more effectively determine his alignment.

If, at any point, there are no players scummier than him, we just kill him.

Or we can just kill him outright and not risk him having a power?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 17 2012 01:41 GMT
#629
On July 17 2012 10:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 10:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I think the part where probulous and I got hung up is how you focus most of your post on syllo and provide reasons why he's scum, then tell us we should actually kill layabout and give no reasons.


whoa, why are you speaking FOR probulous?

holy shit are you scum with Probulous?

Probulous never mentioned that post, he hasn't replied to it yet. Also I already elaborated on why layabout is scum in the post before that.

So,

#1. You're talking for someone else
#2. You're not reading the thread

you really are scum!


Um I am not scum but yeah I have no idea why he thought I wrote anything. It was marv who questioned you.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 17 2012 01:44 GMT
#630
you're going to have to humour me here bugs

how does one find scum scummily?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 17 2012 01:46 GMT
#631
On July 17 2012 03:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Blazinghand needs to slow the eff down. I'm pretty sure he's town bury there were 113 new replies since I last checked. BH you should support RL.

Given this what do you make of this
On July 17 2012 01:46 marvellosity wrote:
laughable != scummy. I prefer BH's case on syllo than the one on BH

It was posted right after Supersoft pointed out how BH looks green based on his rapid fire defense with some really out there logic. Hiropro and most of the people at that time thought BH was scum but Marv didn't join in the wagon. Given you think BH is town, does this alter your read on Marv?

I am getting more of a townie feel from Marv since he has decided to end the lurking and actually started to contribute.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 17 2012 01:47 GMT
#632
Probey, I'll make it easy for you

read my filter from before and then after the first time Foolishness said the nuke should have been launched at me instead
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 17 2012 01:47 GMT
#633
On July 17 2012 10:46 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 03:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Blazinghand needs to slow the eff down. I'm pretty sure he's town bury there were 113 new replies since I last checked. BH you should support RL.

Given this what do you make of this
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 01:46 marvellosity wrote:
laughable != scummy. I prefer BH's case on syllo than the one on BH

It was posted right after Supersoft pointed out how BH looks green based on his rapid fire defense with some really out there logic. Hiropro and most of the people at that time thought BH was scum but Marv didn't join in the wagon. Given you think BH is town, does this alter your read on Marv?

I am getting more of a townie feel from Marv since he has decided to end the lurking and actually started to contribute.

Making posts does not mean he is contributing.
See?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 17 2012 01:47 GMT
#634
On July 17 2012 10:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 10:35 marvellosity wrote:
On July 17 2012 10:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
On July 17 2012 10:31 marvellosity wrote:
bugs: - eh... i keep deleting :p

you're obviously not particularly confident in your read on him if you wrote what you wrote anyway. if you're fairly confident he's scum then you have no reason to believe he wouldn't try to mislead town if he lived.

aren't you really saying you think he's scummy but you wanna give him a 2nd chance?


read again.

LAYABOUT IS SCUMMIER.


yeah i got that. putting something in caps that you already said doesn't make it go in my head twice.

I'm not asking why you don't want to lynch him today, I'm questioning your line of thinking that someone you believe to be scum would help us find scum.


oh, that's simple.

This setup has most scum not knowing who the other scum are. It's in their best interest to actually look for scum, similar to a game that has multiple scum factions. Otherwise they'll just die isolated.

Thus, for a person like syllo to live, we force him to find other scum for us (we know that syllo is capable of this regardless of his alignment). As long as he is unwilling to do this we threaten him with death. If he is willing to help find other scum then he's either town or he's a scum who's helping us kill his own teammates.

When we have more information on how he's done this (given time) we can more effectively determine his alignment.

If, at any point, there are no players scummier than him, we just kill him.

Why would Syllo scum hunt for us if he believes we won't lynch him?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 17 2012 01:49 GMT
#635
On July 17 2012 10:47 marvellosity wrote:
Probey, I'll make it easy for you

read my filter from before and then after the first time Foolishness said the nuke should have been launched at me instead


I know which is why I want VE's opinion. He still has his vote on you. Given the number of other targets for lynch it seems misplaced and I want his input.

Kurumi, you sir are not helping.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 17 2012 01:49 GMT
#636
lol

Easy huh? Because scum marvel wouldn't be concerned about a wily Foolishness thinking he's scummy, altering his play accordingly right marv?

Not trying to get into it with you, but come on bro. That defense was weak as....something thats....really really weak.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 17 2012 01:50 GMT
#637
VE, please don't be bad
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 17 2012 01:51 GMT
#638
On July 17 2012 10:49 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 10:47 marvellosity wrote:
Probey, I'll make it easy for you

read my filter from before and then after the first time Foolishness said the nuke should have been launched at me instead


I know which is why I want VE's opinion. He still has his vote on you. Given the number of other targets for lynch it seems misplaced and I want his input.

Kurumi, you sir are not helping.

Why the fuck are you defending marvellosity? If making posts is equal to contributing, then I am greenest of all towns, only to be beaten by Bill Murray in the past.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
July 17 2012 01:52 GMT
#639
On July 17 2012 10:44 marvellosity wrote:
you're going to have to humour me here bugs

how does one find scum scummily?


Similar to how dead scum call out SK, or how scum in other games have called scum of other factions scum.

I may be overthinking things or I may be loopy right now, but w/e. I don't support a syllo lynch at this moment. I'm with sandro on that.

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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 17 2012 01:53 GMT
#640
I'm considering Prob...here's the thing. BH is known to use questionable logic regardless of alignment (like someone else I know). The rate of his posts had nothing to do with my read of him, it was mostly the effort and voracity of his posts.

I'm wondering what the posts you're referring to are here Probulous, because as Kurumi pointed out posting /= contributing. Is it just that he's agreeing with your lynch choice that you're seeing him as town at this point? Because again I have to emphasize that it's entirely probable that if marv is scum then he does not know who his teammates are. Please stop refusing to factor this in, as it's a huge part of this game.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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