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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 20 2012 14:53 GMT
#2161
On July 20 2012 23:45 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 14:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 20 2012 14:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
OMG this is huge...this is big guy, Chez are you claiming town-aligned messenger? This is big because if you are I think I would rather lynch Sandroba than Zealos tomorrow.


Given that the greater part of the Zealos case rests on Sandroba's use of his role


This is so wrong...


It's not even that it's wrong, it's the fact that PRIOR to the PM thing with Zealos coming to light, BH had branded him scum... "Zealos should be our D3 lynch", "you are the scummiest player alive after Kurumi" among other shizzle.

Now most of the case is on the sandroba use of his role?

Does not compute.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 20 2012 14:56 GMT
#2162
On July 20 2012 22:52 rastaban wrote:
Hmm I guess Sandroba could have bussed 2 minions to make it seem he has his role. Well that is easy to check, We just have town decide who he messages next. He only has 1 minion left at this point if scum exec, so only 1 in 20 something of actually picking that person. If that person gets the message then we confirm him town, if not then we can lynch him. he gets 1 a 1/2 cycle and no one else is likely to fall for it at this point so no waste if he gices up one of them to confirm himself.

Does anyone think this makes sense.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 20 2012 14:58 GMT
#2163
On July 20 2012 23:56 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 22:52 rastaban wrote:
Hmm I guess Sandroba could have bussed 2 minions to make it seem he has his role. Well that is easy to check, We just have town decide who he messages next. He only has 1 minion left at this point if scum exec, so only 1 in 20 something of actually picking that person. If that person gets the message then we confirm him town, if not then we can lynch him. he gets 1 a 1/2 cycle and no one else is likely to fall for it at this point so no waste if he gices up one of them to confirm himself.

Does anyone think this makes sense.


don't see why not
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 20 2012 14:58 GMT
#2164
marv, do you think chezinu is telling the truth? I do.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 20 2012 15:00 GMT
#2165
I'm not even sure what the truth is that he's telling at this point :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 20 2012 15:01 GMT
#2166
On July 20 2012 23:56 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 22:52 rastaban wrote:
Hmm I guess Sandroba could have bussed 2 minions to make it seem he has his role. Well that is easy to check, We just have town decide who he messages next. He only has 1 minion left at this point if scum exec, so only 1 in 20 something of actually picking that person. If that person gets the message then we confirm him town, if not then we can lynch him. he gets 1 a 1/2 cycle and no one else is likely to fall for it at this point so no waste if he gices up one of them to confirm himself.

Does anyone think this makes sense.

Are you referring to him being scum (I don't think it is likely) or that me saying him messaging someone wouldn't confirm him?
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 20 2012 15:02 GMT
#2167
On July 21 2012 00:01 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 23:56 risk.nuke wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:52 rastaban wrote:
Hmm I guess Sandroba could have bussed 2 minions to make it seem he has his role. Well that is easy to check, We just have town decide who he messages next. He only has 1 minion left at this point if scum exec, so only 1 in 20 something of actually picking that person. If that person gets the message then we confirm him town, if not then we can lynch him. he gets 1 a 1/2 cycle and no one else is likely to fall for it at this point so no waste if he gices up one of them to confirm himself.

Does anyone think this makes sense.

Are you referring to him being scum (I don't think it is likely) or that me saying him messaging someone wouldn't confirm him?


I think he was referring (I was) that it's a good idea to get sandroba to PM someone of town's choosing
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 20 2012 15:04 GMT
#2168
On July 21 2012 00:02 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 00:01 rastaban wrote:
On July 20 2012 23:56 risk.nuke wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:52 rastaban wrote:
Hmm I guess Sandroba could have bussed 2 minions to make it seem he has his role. Well that is easy to check, We just have town decide who he messages next. He only has 1 minion left at this point if scum exec, so only 1 in 20 something of actually picking that person. If that person gets the message then we confirm him town, if not then we can lynch him. he gets 1 a 1/2 cycle and no one else is likely to fall for it at this point so no waste if he gices up one of them to confirm himself.

Does anyone think this makes sense.

Are you referring to him being scum (I don't think it is likely) or that me saying him messaging someone wouldn't confirm him?


I think he was referring (I was) that it's a good idea to get sandroba to PM someone of town's choosing

And if Kurumi flips town like I think is a possibility we don't even need him to do that as we would know he messaged town. If Kurumi flips scum it is our way of proving it wasn't a bus.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 20 2012 15:13 GMT
#2169
On July 20 2012 23:56 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 22:52 rastaban wrote:
Hmm I guess Sandroba could have bussed 2 minions to make it seem he has his role. Well that is easy to check, We just have town decide who he messages next. He only has 1 minion left at this point if scum exec, so only 1 in 20 something of actually picking that person. If that person gets the message then we confirm him town, if not then we can lynch him. he gets 1 a 1/2 cycle and no one else is likely to fall for it at this point so no waste if he gices up one of them to confirm himself.

Does anyone think this makes sense.


No it doesn't.

Do you think this increases the chances of rastaban being mafia?
Computer says mafia
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 20 2012 15:20 GMT
#2170
On July 21 2012 00:13 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 23:56 risk.nuke wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:52 rastaban wrote:
Hmm I guess Sandroba could have bussed 2 minions to make it seem he has his role. Well that is easy to check, We just have town decide who he messages next. He only has 1 minion left at this point if scum exec, so only 1 in 20 something of actually picking that person. If that person gets the message then we confirm him town, if not then we can lynch him. he gets 1 a 1/2 cycle and no one else is likely to fall for it at this point so no waste if he gices up one of them to confirm himself.

Does anyone think this makes sense.


No it doesn't.

Do you think this increases the chances of rastaban being mafia?

There is more than a chance! What with all the lurking and setup speculation he has been doing. I mean even everything he just said has been derivative and more on roles with no real analysis of actual players. Top that off with his pathetic case on layabout which even he backed off on and it really makes a guy wonder...
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 20 2012 15:30 GMT
#2171
Because I am lazy can you add slOosh to the filters when you get a chance? Thanks
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 20 2012 15:39 GMT
#2172
lol
Computer says mafia
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 20 2012 15:52 GMT
#2173
On July 20 2012 23:51 rastaban wrote:
Kurumi, before you get lynched,

How do you feel about Sandroba? He may have bussed you and Zealos, obviously you don't agree and if you flip town that can't be true. Do you think that he is mafia or town?

what are your feelings on Zealos, i know earlier you said you couldn't read him, but has the interaction between him and sandroba changed anything? You think you are town for not sharing the PM, do you think Zealos had a legit reason for not sharing the PM?

You said 4 of these are likely red, I marked the one you called out. Any others you want to add to that list?
Veterans:
RebirthOfLegend (dead, town)
Foolishness
GGQ
Bill Murray
Meapak_Ziphh
Chezinu (eeeeee I am going to say town on this one)

Good players:
sandroba (alive but all looks like he is town)
Palmar
wherebugsgo (dead, town)
syllogism
probably VisceraEyes, not sure though.

Is there a person sandroba should be close to confirmed, that's me. I can confirm he messaged me. The messages were identical. I did follow the order. As for the list, I will work on it some more soon. I'll look into Foolishness and VisceraEyes first, because as I said I am going to check those who have the smallest activity.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 20 2012 15:53 GMT
#2174
EDWODP:
If there is a person*
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 20 2012 15:57 GMT
#2175
your persistence is amazing kurumi.

Did I mention katina is scum? How about you look into her?
Computer says mafia
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 20 2012 16:13 GMT
#2176
On July 20 2012 18:40 Bill Murray wrote:
ANYWAYS. I'm not going to finish reading the thread. It's a bunch of herp-derp like Katina said. Foolishness is mafia, and I have reads on a few more. I am not going to delve into it.

I am feeling like Probulous isn't a higher-up-executive, and I question the read, which means I agree with the need for a reaction test there.

Chezinu - high up scum, dawg
VE - I feel he is way, way, way better at scumhunting as town. Scum.
Foolishness - tunneling too much, and engaging in banter = scum
Sandroba - When Kurumi flips town (my gut is telling me this) = obv scum we lynch
Marvellosity - interaction with Sandroba makes me believe he is scum
Kurumi - low level scum that is getting bussed by Chezini and Sandroba

town:
BM
Katina
Layabout
Gonzaw
Probulous
Zealos - he's either scum of a village idiot. I'm leaning village idiot. He's somebody scum messaged to look bad.

OMG BM, an incomplete list? Where does HiroPro rank in this?
Well, I just don't know, and I don't want clutter, yo.
I'm not unvoting Kurumi, I feel like Sandroba and Chezinu probably wouldn't gambit

I'm flip-flopping on chezinu, because I just re-read the Kurumi-Sandroba thing.

@ Kurumi, Chezinu and Sandroba contacted you? What is your side of the story/incident?

##unvote Kurumi
##vote Chezinu


Chezinu is being too crazy and illogical for his town game
Chezinu and Sandroba are scum if Kurumi isn't
We can't afford to lynch town here

-_-

can nobody see the light here?
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 20 2012 16:14 GMT
#2177
On July 21 2012 00:57 Palmar wrote:
your persistence is amazing kurumi.

Did I mention katina is scum? How about you look into her?

Don't trash one of the few people that's making sense this game.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 20 2012 16:22 GMT
#2178
Am I missing something or did Mr Murray say that he also steals the power of the person he votes for? If so, that makes him more or less a role - checker... Why not have him steal sandroba's vote, and see if he gets a messaging power?

Or does that not count as a thread action? (Which, now that I think about it, seems likely)

BM, what kind of information do you receive when you steal someone's power? How do you know what power they have?
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 20 2012 16:27 GMT
#2179
I think that Zealos or BH should be lynched tomorrow. These are the people that have been talked about the most and we should keep the attention on them. Secondary candidates like BM, Palmar, Foolishiness, GGQ should be put aside until we solve the more pressing matters at hand. Right now there is still an incredible lack of focus. People are just spewing out whoever they think is Mafia without regard to what the town thinks.

Tomorrow we should lynch BH. He has been at the forefront of causing chaos and keeping the town derailed. I certainly wouldn't mind Zealos either but with BH we have much more to go off of and he seems like the safest.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
July 20 2012 16:28 GMT
#2180
On July 20 2012 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 23:45 HiroPro wrote:
On July 20 2012 14:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 20 2012 14:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
OMG this is huge...this is big guy, Chez are you claiming town-aligned messenger? This is big because if you are I think I would rather lynch Sandroba than Zealos tomorrow.


Given that the greater part of the Zealos case rests on Sandroba's use of his role


This is so wrong...


It's not even that it's wrong, it's the fact that PRIOR to the PM thing with Zealos coming to light, BH had branded him scum... "Zealos should be our D3 lynch", "you are the scummiest player alive after Kurumi" among other shizzle.

Now most of the case is on the sandroba use of his role?

Does not compute.


# of people who liked my case against zealos before sandro got involved: like, 3
# of people who liked my case against zealos after sandro got involved: literally everyone
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