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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 09 2012 15:12 GMT
#694
And, in addition to that how did Hopeless become townie in your eyes? You had him as a scum read when you first showed up and are claiming to have investigated him last night without result. Why are you no longer willing to vote for him when he was a top 3 scum read? Of your other top threes you investigated 1 who came back green and you have deiced, it appears, that I am town as well. There is nothing in your filter to suggest why you changed your mind about Hopeless' play from scum to town and that worries me since Hopeless has been a scum read for just about the whole game and he keeps no getting lynched. Since he is probably scum and certainly still my best scum read your soft defense of him isn't working for me.

Explanation please.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 09 2012 17:12 GMT
#699
On July 10 2012 02:00 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
AmericanUmlaut wrote:
You're basically saying that I must be scum because I voted for Anacletus third, after Fencar (twice) and Intact. Based on your logic, Fencar and Intact must both be pretty scummy, right? Except they both flipped green, oops.


Other people being bad doesn't excuse *YOU* being bad. Although, I'm not really saying you're scum because you voted for Anacletus, I'm saying you're scum because you didn't vote for Anacletus. I don't think all 3 scum were on the Anacletus vote, and you and Hopeless are the only 2 still alive who weren't voting for him.



...therefore vote Hopeless since he is scum.

Yeah, this wishwashy crap from Kier has to go. Because of his claim I don't want to lynch him on the off chance (<10% in my mind) that he is telling the truth since if he really is dt we need him to win this game. Hopeless on the other hand has been playing scummy all along and Kier, my other high scum read, is now defending him after attacking him to create distance but not voting for him.

I'll be voting Hopeless today and I'm confidant that we'll be on the right track to win this game after he is gone. Next up will be Kier unless he comes out with some brilliant reads coupled with dt investigation. His whole play has been full of shenanigans at this point investigating Myles instead of me his first night...I was his scummiest read and a player who all of you had as a town read. If he had looked at me to get a check on night one he would either know I was town and start to listen to me or know I was scum, claim and get me lynched which would be a huge win for town. Instead he checked Myles who, even if he was scum wasn't doing much so getting him lynched would not impact the scum team in a major way (unless he agrees with whoever said that the scum power roles are lurkers).

So, with the inconsistencies in Kier's play and the scummy way Hopeless has been playing I am going to vote for Hopeless. Kier has put too much into the defense of Hopeless which makes me feel that Hopeless is more important to the mafia team. That only makes sense if he has a power role so I'm going to lynch Hopeless and next cycle Kier. Which will give us two dead scum and only one left to find.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 09 2012 17:12 GMT
#700
oh, yeah, I forgot:

##: Vote: Hopeless1der
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 09 2012 18:04 GMT
#702
Well Kier was right on one thing: it is on you lurkers.

Come through for town and vote Hopeless.

I can't imagine what Myles, Bob and Imperfection are doing. Guys: we need you in here, don't lurk. Post post post! We have to get scum in the next four hours! We can do it and all that has to happen is for two of the three of you to vote Hopeless to give us a chance in this game, don't let Keir's scum tactics sway you. Vote Hopeless.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 09 2012 18:19 GMT
#704
On July 10 2012 03:16 Keirathi wrote:
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On July 10 2012 03:04 Promethelax wrote:
don't let Keir's scum tactics sway you.


Still trying to buy town cred all the way to the end, eh?

At least you're consistent I guess. Entirely wrong, but consistently wrong.


Its cute how you try to fight it when you know you've lost, you are scum and everyone knows it. After we lynch Hopeless we'll lynch you.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 09 2012 19:43 GMT
#726
On July 10 2012 04:37 Keirathi wrote:
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On July 10 2012 04:34 BobTheLob wrote:
I would Vote you, the arguments are much better against you then against Ulmaut as well despite me liking you more.


This makes no sense. You think Prom is scum, but you would vote for Hopeless? Prom has literally been pushing Hopeless all day. It is very, very obvious that they aren't BOTH. So do you think Prom is scum, or do you think Hopeless is?


You totally ignore any possibility of a bus, you are working to distort facts to make your case seem like it has weight. Hopeless is scummier than Umlat and you are too.

Your lack of first night dt check is a total flaw in your claim. We'll lynch you next.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 09 2012 21:04 GMT
#765
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 09 2012 21:10 GMT
#780
On July 10 2012 06:07 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Oh, shit!

I should have read my role PM more closely .


lol wat?
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 09 2012 21:11 GMT
#785
gg guys, thanks for playing I had a really good time.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 09 2012 21:41 GMT
#802
We made the decision before Milton did his thing.
We figured the Blind-Rawr suspicions on you gave us a decent shot and killing you made little sense when you were gunning for me. We had already decided to go for an all or nothing ploy for the challenge of it at that point if I remember correctly.

Marv: thanks for being there for us, you came through when we needed you and gave me some hope when every scummy guy was getting replaced by a townie guy which sucked butts for us.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 09 2012 21:46 GMT
#806
On July 10 2012 06:43 iamperfection wrote:
no one told me they wold release our qt....

i regret nothing!!


its okay we all posted under each others names. No one will ever know which of us is which. I hope you enjoyed the post game scum claim.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 21:49:31
July 09 2012 21:48 GMT
#807
On July 10 2012 06:43 Keirathi wrote:
What I mean when I say it ruined your credibility was the fact that both of you used the exact same scumteam.

Flipping Milton as green, when you had been saying that you were 99% sure of Fencer's guild, seems really, really strange in hindsight.


good point but I always had the I'm an idiot defense to fall back on. Which was pretty much my plan if it came to it. And my breadcrumb to throw up some second guesses if it became necessary.


Edit: and somewhere in this game I got to 1000 posts. Go me.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 09 2012 21:52 GMT
#811
On July 10 2012 06:49 Keirathi wrote:
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On July 10 2012 06:43 TheToast wrote:
Props on the Blind-Rawr/Keirathi roleblock. That was an excellent read that basically won you the game. He was trying to investigate AU, and so would've returned mafia if you hadn't roleblocked. This game would probably still be going if you hadn't done so.


Ermm, what? I changed my investigation target to Hopeless. I believe I sent you the adendum. Is changing not allowed?

Not that it made a difference in the long run, but if you had returned me with Umlaut being scum when I asked the investigation to be changed to Hopeless, I would have been pretty upset.


Even better it would have returned AU is town since he was our GF.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 09 2012 21:56 GMT
#813
was there an obs qt? I want to see how they did.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 09 2012 22:51 GMT
#824
On July 10 2012 07:38 Keirathi wrote:
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On July 10 2012 07:35 ghost_403 wrote:
Yeah, it really does, which probably explains why the scum team killed all of them so quickly.

I really did feel bad replacing so many people. Unfortunately, modkilling them leaves the town at such a disadvantage so fast. Losing one townie, and they wouldn't have been able to no lynch Day 3, with two they wouldn't have had a Day 3.

By the way, all of the replacements played this game very well, and I really appreciate them stepping in like that. Thanks again you guys!


Thanks for inviting me! It was a fun game and I'm glad I decided to accept.


@marv: okay, maybe it didn't hurt us as bad as it hurt mafia, but it certainly hindered our abilities to make overall game reads.


No man, replacements fucked us. We would have won no problem with the players as they were at the beginning and in the positions we put ourselves into. Instead of being able to use our Night Kills for useful things we had to use them to take new blood out of the thread.

All the replacements played really well and that was a huge issue since a mislynch is precluded on a townie playing poorly.

You played well but town was lost without the replacements.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 10 2012 20:25 GMT
#834
On July 10 2012 17:28 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
From the obs QT:

Show nested quote +
Are you kidding? If anyone picks up on it, it's gold. All they need to do is look at the people who were already looking scummy, who tried to make a case against Fencar.

You know, at least two of my huge picks being in on that? The ones who suddenly tried to look like town leaders after my inconvenience was silenced?

##Vote Myles
##Vote Hopeless1der

Killing JingleHell was a horrible mistake.


Killing JH made perfect sense he was the only townie talking who wasn't me.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 10 2012 20:37 GMT
#836
On July 11 2012 05:35 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 05:25 Promethelax wrote:
On July 10 2012 17:28 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
From the obs QT:

Are you kidding? If anyone picks up on it, it's gold. All they need to do is look at the people who were already looking scummy, who tried to make a case against Fencar.

You know, at least two of my huge picks being in on that? The ones who suddenly tried to look like town leaders after my inconvenience was silenced?

##Vote Myles
##Vote Hopeless1der

Killing JingleHell was a horrible mistake.


Killing JH made perfect sense he was the only townie talking who wasn't me.

I know, and I agree . I was just joking about it because his reads were so bad later. It would have been great to have a chatty townie who was always wrong. :-D


Haha yeah but we did have that, it was me =p
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 10 2012 21:00 GMT
#838
On July 11 2012 05:53 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 05:37 Promethelax wrote:
On July 11 2012 05:35 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On July 11 2012 05:25 Promethelax wrote:
On July 10 2012 17:28 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
From the obs QT:

Are you kidding? If anyone picks up on it, it's gold. All they need to do is look at the people who were already looking scummy, who tried to make a case against Fencar.

You know, at least two of my huge picks being in on that? The ones who suddenly tried to look like town leaders after my inconvenience was silenced?

##Vote Myles
##Vote Hopeless1der

Killing JingleHell was a horrible mistake.


Killing JH made perfect sense he was the only townie talking who wasn't me.

I know, and I agree . I was just joking about it because his reads were so bad later. It would have been great to have a chatty townie who was always wrong. :-D


Haha yeah but we did have that, it was me =p


If only someone called you out on it....




I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling townies.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 10 2012 21:21 GMT
#840
On July 11 2012 06:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
You did get away with it..


but the scooby-doo reference only works the other way...and scooby-doo trumps truth.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 24 2012 05:54 GMT
#847
I happen to like my pants-on-head-retarded connection theory
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