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This lynch feels ... wrong. MrZentor, I need your full thoughts on rastaban and Snarfs. I'm having suspicions that you are a foolish town player and as much as I would like to lynch you for poor, poor play, we don't lynch bad players, we lynch scum.
So quickly, your thoughts on rastaban and Snarfs. And also Probulous. If you put in effort I'll help take the lynch off you.
Snarfs I'm still waiting; just because the bandwagon on MrZentor is rolling doesn't mean we all take a reprieve.
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On June 23 2012 23:20 MrZentor wrote:
I want to lynch marvellosity, because it will provide a lot of information about VE's role. I switched from my they're both innocent theory to the at least one is probably mafia theory, because of they're both pretty good players, and I don't think both of them are wrong.
Just disgusting.
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On June 23 2012 23:20 MrZentor wrote:
There are two huge reasons you shouldn't kill me.
1. You'll go into day 2 with very little information compared to how much you would have if you lynched marvellosity, because me dying and flipping my townie role tells you basically nothing.
good god twice in the same post
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slOosh, I went over your post on Snarfs, dunno how to explain really, but I couldn't really get into it.
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On June 23 2012 01:06 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2012 00:39 Zephirdd wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Worst-case-ever] +On June 23 2012 00:31 rastaban wrote:I would like to put forward a new actor into the spotlight who I feel doesn't want this movie finished. One risk.nuke! This fellow looks shady to me and he must have gotten Kirsten Stewart for his actor for the poor job he has done hiding his distain for our movie. Check it out: Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 07:28 risk.nuke wrote:
Well Zentor started out very strong but then his activity dropped which is all-in-all a scumtrait.
He spends half of his posts unnecessarily defending himself and the other half is useless 1-worders. I would very much like him to come here and explain himselves. Seeing how he can be one of the largest postcount in this game and have said so little of significance. This is his most rounded and contributing post... And it is a joke post. Next we get this gem: Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 07:52 risk.nuke wrote:
While I agree Zentor is a scourge to have on the gamefield I don't think we should kill him to be rid of him. That's not the way. As for now I want to hear from more players. Not much here, he defends Z but against an attack that was never going to happen anyway so a null read on this one Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 07:57 risk.nuke wrote:On June 22 2012 07:53 Snarfs wrote:
I have a great idea guys:
Let's lynch Probulous so that we immediately know which team is going to lose, then whoever is on that team can just forfeit and we all save a ton of time!
##Vote Probulous! what? What a quality contribution, but after wanting to hear more from players he certainly doesn't add anything himself or even push this thought further. The original post was a joke regarding probs penchant for losing lately but risk doesn't follow up to even find that out. Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 08:03 risk.nuke wrote:
I say we lynch zephirdd on account of not realising we're past fun-time. Wants to lynch zeph but like most bad actors he says the lines but doesn't have his actions (vote) match up to his words. He doesnt want to have the case lead back to him, and until more people have joined in he holds his vote. Perhaps you might think he is an actor who values life and is very conservative with his voting habits, but you will soon see that is not the case. Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 08:55 risk.nuke wrote:
lol, ok #1 scum response
##Vote: marvellosity Now he gets crazy like Charlie Sheen, he now throws his vote onto the marv train, but he doesn't add anything to the arguments, he doesn't even mention agreeing with others but instead he bases his vote off one post. What was this incriminating post? Well I thought it must have been the dodge marv made or perhaps his posts where he says he is confidant he doesn't get lynched, but no it is this one. Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 08:53 marvellosity wrote:On June 22 2012 08:41 Zephirdd wrote:
This is a semi-closed setup. If there are 13 players, it's possible that 12 are medics and 1 is a scum. Of course that's retarded as fuck, but nothing is concrete and we shouldn't think "but it's not common to 2 of X" exist ever. at all.
In fact, we can't even confirm the existence of a SK until after the night phase.
I'm not sure about Millers instaclaiming. While it clears path for cops(as it's pretty obvious that they will show red), it also reduces the number of possible blues, making it easier for scum. At least what I understood from the setup is that Millers can't be blues.
If anything, Millers should be breadcrumbing and claiming in case a cop calls them guilty. For all other purposes, they should be *Vanilla*(unclaimed, aka. possible blue) to make it harder for mafia to shoot into blues. Thanks, I will pass this on to my scumbuddies immediately. Marv is showing how absurd it is to have millers breadcrumb so they can be saved later, and this post is the one risk decides justifies throwing the weight of his vote behind? I think he thought the risk train was gaining momentum and wanted to get on board. Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 19:01 risk.nuke wrote:
##Unvote: marvellosity
##Vote: von Klaust II Here is his latest post, what!!!??? This is so out of the blue, he never says why he changes his mind, he doesn't even say why he votes for klaust though I am guessing inactivity. This is a huge throw away vote meaning nothing as he doesn't even ask for klaus to speak up. On top of that look at the time stamps, this occurs 10 hours after his Last post. So picture this, risk votes marv, 10 hours later he comes and votes klaust with no reasoning at all. Ahha, but what has changed? Well I and a few others have pushed for slowing down on tunneling marv, and he realizes that it might not happen. Prob mentions the lurkers need to get posting and names klaust as one of them, risk immediately votes for him. So he has 10 hours between his posts and apparently knows enough to change his mind on the marv lynch and that klaust hasn't posted yet and still we don't get even a single line of content from. This is a mafia mindset, all of hs targets are equally scummy since none of them are scum so he doesn't care about who gets lynched as long as it isn't them. Let's kick this sham of an actor off our set before he changes this movie from Signs into The Happening. ##Vote: risk.nuke Post-by-post case on a <24hr game, huuuuuuuuuuuge fluff accusing no one other than risk - I'm scummy when I'm town because I never roll scum - nuke. Have you played other games, rastaban? link me please. Yeah bang bang that just wrapped up, check out my post on cephiro, which nearly everyone ignored based on his few early game posts but in the end it was found out he was mafia. I think you are dismissing it way to fast. I may have played up bits to fit the setting but I stand by what I said, I really don't see town swapping votes like that with no reason and the sudden defense of him is quite astounding to me.
I'd like to know exactly what you meant by that, rastaban
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rastaban zephirdd and zentor, what are your thoughts on eachother?
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On June 23 2012 14:37 slOosh wrote:It's like he wants to be lynched or something ... ##Unvote: Snarfs
##Vote: MrZentorSnarfs, I don't see how you can deem that the bolded strikethrough as irrelevant when referring to your thoughts on rastaban. Show nested quote +On June 23 2012 02:36 Snarfs wrote:I agree, this post is very scummy. Also notice how the general feeling of the second paragraph is that we should back off marv a bit so that we can get some better reads and not waste the entire 48 hours, but then the third paragraph is him coming right back to marv and pushing him? Now, granted he does appear to be trying to ask more "nicely", but why not try focusing on someone else if you feel too much time is being wasted on marv? Pre-Edit: Noticed rastaban has posted a "case" on risk.nuke after slOosh also commented on his post. I really don't like rastaban's case as it is quite exaggerated. It feels to me as it was a quick case he made as he noticed he was getting flak for not commenting on anyone besides marv. risk.nuke's actions have been quite clear as marv and shraft explained here: [ click] How is it irrelevant?
Because without the full context it doesn't make sense? I was just trying to condense my quotes so that I didn't have a giant wall of text.... I don't really see how you're trying to make a case out of this.
On June 24 2012 00:53 slOosh wrote:
This lynch feels ... wrong. MrZentor, I need your full thoughts on rastaban and Snarfs. I'm having suspicions that you are a foolish town player and as much as I would like to lynch you for poor, poor play, we don't lynch bad players, we lynch scum.
So quickly, your thoughts on rastaban and Snarfs. And also Probulous. If you put in effort I'll help take the lynch off you.
Snarfs I'm still waiting; just because the bandwagon on MrZentor is rolling doesn't mean we all take a reprieve.
For God's sake, I can't even take a Friday night off? You're just going out of your way to make me look bad!
Hmm RE: MrZentor lynch, I get what slOosh is saying about it feeling wrong. Something seems off about prplhz and how he sort of spearheaded this lynch by first starting with a vote on MrZentor and then his case just kept getting stronger and stronger.
Normally when you're hunting scum you:
1) Find evidence that someone might be scum
2) Vote said person
3) If you're really sure, try to convince others that he's scum
However, what I'm seeing here from prplhz is:
1) Vote said person
2) Try to convince others to vote said person
3) Find evidence that he might be scum
I would appreciate some others looking over prplhz again and telling me what they think.
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vonKlaust II what are your thoughts on the lynch?
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There are a few hours left but it's starting to become time we worked up on a majority. I'm going to vote for Rastaban
##Unvote: von Klaust II
##Vote: Rastaban
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You know I did point out that Prphlz hasn't actually done anything pro town in any of his posts.
But nobody listens to little poor me. 
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I apologize if I'm being dense Snarfs. No doubt you are being sensible and I'm seeing good stuff from you so I'll be dropping this now.
I see your point on prplhz. It starts off as a policy lynch, a fall back in case we don't find anything.
On June 22 2012 07:41 prplhz wrote:
Okay whatever the fuck. I joined this game because I thought zentor had outed by meh. zentor is the default lynch for today because he's an unpleasant person just to have around. In case we don't find anything better then he should die just because of how destructive he is when he's town. I played with it once and I don't want to play with it again.
##Vote: MrZentor
On June 22 2012 07:52 prplhz wrote:
Okay here's a case I just made up:
prplhz: Lets policy lynch zentor because he's the one I have had the worst experience playing with!
zentor: What, I'm not scum!
Well no one ever said that you were so why are you already denying it?
How about that?
Anyway, I am suggesting a policy lynch on zentor unless we find something better and I don't think that that's a bad idea at all, actually it's a pretty good idea. Who would you policy lynch VisceraEyes? Just someone random? I'm sure we can have one of the lovely hosts pick out a random number for us (so we don't have to deal with all that derp about how you pick an actually random person that we had in iGrok's game).
On June 23 2012 07:51 prplhz wrote:
zentor is a better lynch than any of you because his short filter is full of things that will give you a headache, and because according to his previous games, that's not likely to change on day2. He is doing objectively scummy things such as making up bullshit excuses for not contributing that contradict each other, and stalling while promising that he'll do something later. His latest contribution was my filter in a spoiler. We might as well get rid of him early on unless we have a better lead. Do you really think that either of you is a better lynch than zentor?
Overall MrZentor has indeed made minimal / poor contributions. I see no problem there when prplhz pushes forth his MrZentor lynch on the basis that he isn't really doing anything. What the question is, however, is "is prplhz actively looking for a better read?" or is he just settling for MrZentor, which is reflective of an attitude that doesn't care ~> anti-town. Looking at his filter, I really don't see him pursuing other reads. He always comes back to focus on MrZentor.
Note that last post comes an hour before he builds his case on MrZentor, yet he still uses that reasoning - "unless we have a better lead". I'd expect something like "he is a good lead" - we aren't defaulting to offing the worst player (irrespective of performance this game) right now; MrZentor has not shown much improvement this game at all, yet prplhz is still acting like we are lynching him because he is a bad player in general, not a player playing bad ~> scummy.
Could I get some thoughts on Probulous as well? I don't like how he jumped on the MrZentor wagon.
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On June 24 2012 01:53 risk.nuke wrote:
vonKlaust II what are your thoughts on the lynch?
Well, first of all I think that my suspicions towards Marv may have suffered a bit from confirmation bias. I'm still a bit suspicious of him but I think I might have gone overboard with my criticism. I'd love to hear y'all comment on what I wrote on him.
Right now though, my best bet would be Mr.Z I think.
I don't really know about Rasta yet, but I'll check his filter out for myself and get back with my thoughts.
But for now:
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On June 24 2012 02:23 MrZentor wrote:You know I did point out that Prphlz hasn't actually done anything pro town in any of his posts. But nobody listens to little poor me.
Neither have your. Make a case on him if you find him suspicious. No one will listen to your pleading.
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On June 24 2012 01:26 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2012 01:06 rastaban wrote:On June 23 2012 00:39 Zephirdd wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Worst-case-ever] +On June 23 2012 00:31 rastaban wrote:I would like to put forward a new actor into the spotlight who I feel doesn't want this movie finished. One risk.nuke! This fellow looks shady to me and he must have gotten Kirsten Stewart for his actor for the poor job he has done hiding his distain for our movie. Check it out: Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 07:28 risk.nuke wrote:
Well Zentor started out very strong but then his activity dropped which is all-in-all a scumtrait.
He spends half of his posts unnecessarily defending himself and the other half is useless 1-worders. I would very much like him to come here and explain himselves. Seeing how he can be one of the largest postcount in this game and have said so little of significance. This is his most rounded and contributing post... And it is a joke post. Next we get this gem: Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 07:52 risk.nuke wrote:
While I agree Zentor is a scourge to have on the gamefield I don't think we should kill him to be rid of him. That's not the way. As for now I want to hear from more players. Not much here, he defends Z but against an attack that was never going to happen anyway so a null read on this one Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 07:57 risk.nuke wrote:On June 22 2012 07:53 Snarfs wrote:
I have a great idea guys:
Let's lynch Probulous so that we immediately know which team is going to lose, then whoever is on that team can just forfeit and we all save a ton of time!
##Vote Probulous! what? What a quality contribution, but after wanting to hear more from players he certainly doesn't add anything himself or even push this thought further. The original post was a joke regarding probs penchant for losing lately but risk doesn't follow up to even find that out. Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 08:03 risk.nuke wrote:
I say we lynch zephirdd on account of not realising we're past fun-time. Wants to lynch zeph but like most bad actors he says the lines but doesn't have his actions (vote) match up to his words. He doesnt want to have the case lead back to him, and until more people have joined in he holds his vote. Perhaps you might think he is an actor who values life and is very conservative with his voting habits, but you will soon see that is not the case. Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 08:55 risk.nuke wrote:
lol, ok #1 scum response
##Vote: marvellosity Now he gets crazy like Charlie Sheen, he now throws his vote onto the marv train, but he doesn't add anything to the arguments, he doesn't even mention agreeing with others but instead he bases his vote off one post. What was this incriminating post? Well I thought it must have been the dodge marv made or perhaps his posts where he says he is confidant he doesn't get lynched, but no it is this one. Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 08:53 marvellosity wrote:On June 22 2012 08:41 Zephirdd wrote:
This is a semi-closed setup. If there are 13 players, it's possible that 12 are medics and 1 is a scum. Of course that's retarded as fuck, but nothing is concrete and we shouldn't think "but it's not common to 2 of X" exist ever. at all.
In fact, we can't even confirm the existence of a SK until after the night phase.
I'm not sure about Millers instaclaiming. While it clears path for cops(as it's pretty obvious that they will show red), it also reduces the number of possible blues, making it easier for scum. At least what I understood from the setup is that Millers can't be blues.
If anything, Millers should be breadcrumbing and claiming in case a cop calls them guilty. For all other purposes, they should be *Vanilla*(unclaimed, aka. possible blue) to make it harder for mafia to shoot into blues. Thanks, I will pass this on to my scumbuddies immediately. Marv is showing how absurd it is to have millers breadcrumb so they can be saved later, and this post is the one risk decides justifies throwing the weight of his vote behind? I think he thought the risk train was gaining momentum and wanted to get on board. Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 19:01 risk.nuke wrote:
##Unvote: marvellosity
##Vote: von Klaust II Here is his latest post, what!!!??? This is so out of the blue, he never says why he changes his mind, he doesn't even say why he votes for klaust though I am guessing inactivity. This is a huge throw away vote meaning nothing as he doesn't even ask for klaus to speak up. On top of that look at the time stamps, this occurs 10 hours after his Last post. So picture this, risk votes marv, 10 hours later he comes and votes klaust with no reasoning at all. Ahha, but what has changed? Well I and a few others have pushed for slowing down on tunneling marv, and he realizes that it might not happen. Prob mentions the lurkers need to get posting and names klaust as one of them, risk immediately votes for him. So he has 10 hours between his posts and apparently knows enough to change his mind on the marv lynch and that klaust hasn't posted yet and still we don't get even a single line of content from. This is a mafia mindset, all of hs targets are equally scummy since none of them are scum so he doesn't care about who gets lynched as long as it isn't them. Let's kick this sham of an actor off our set before he changes this movie from Signs into The Happening. ##Vote: risk.nuke Post-by-post case on a <24hr game, huuuuuuuuuuuge fluff accusing no one other than risk - I'm scummy when I'm town because I never roll scum - nuke. Have you played other games, rastaban? link me please. Yeah bang bang that just wrapped up, check out my post on cephiro, which nearly everyone ignored based on his few early game posts but in the end it was found out he was mafia. I think you are dismissing it way to fast. I may have played up bits to fit the setting but I stand by what I said, I really don't see town swapping votes like that with no reason and the sudden defense of him is quite astounding to me. I'd like to know exactly what you meant by that, rastaban
In my post I compared him to Kirstin Stewart and Charlie Sheen, because this is movie star mafia, and I thought it was a funner way to getting across than using the terms scum and mafia.
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In how long is the lynch tanking place?
Time-zones you know...
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Von you realize I DID make a case on him.
As I previously stated, nobody listens to poor little me.
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MrZentor, no one listens because people don't see your posts as worth listening to. Stop playing the victim and put in the effort to find scum and people will start listening.
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Lynch is in a little more than 4 hours I believe.
vonKlaust: in your own words, why should we lynch MrZentor?
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Ebwop
Funner way to get my point across.
On June 24 2012 01:49 risk.nuke wrote:
rastaban zephirdd and zentor, what are your thoughts on eachother?
I already posted my thoughts on Zentor,
Zephirdd is Pretty likely town, when he asked about by previous games he followed up by looking into the case and linked my previous case so others could review as well, that is a pretty town aligned action in my opinion and his last comment isn't something scum would say. It invites attention, but a townie just wants to find the truth and not be played. I liken it to my statement last game where I jokingly said that ace had rigged the game so that all lurkers were scum. It was half a joke but also out there to get people to think in that direction if things started getting fishy.
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