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On June 23 2012 11:20 Zephirdd wrote: Holy shit.
Look at pages 16 and 17. I just solved this game.
VE, marv are both scum bussing the F* out of each other. When was the last time this happened? I remember someone saying it was an "OP strategy". Wasn't it Toad/VE doing it? I don't quite remember. Someone said LI, is that it?
Either way, if one of them flips scum, I'm sure as hell attacking the other. I thought the initial "attacks" were terrible for both parties, but at this point this all feels fabricated to me.
Really Zeph? REALLY? This is all you got?
Hrrmmm.....
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I don't know Zephirdd....it got pretty intense, but I do agree that we should kill one of them. 
##Vote: marvellosity
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It's like he wants to be lynched or something ... ##Unvote: Snarfs ##Vote: MrZentor
Snarfs, I don't see how you can deem that the bolded strikethrough as irrelevant when referring to your thoughts on rastaban.
On June 23 2012 02:36 Snarfs wrote:I agree, this post is very scummy. Also notice how the general feeling of the second paragraph is that we should back off marv a bit so that we can get some better reads and not waste the entire 48 hours, but then the third paragraph is him coming right back to marv and pushing him? Now, granted he does appear to be trying to ask more "nicely", but why not try focusing on someone else if you feel too much time is being wasted on marv? Pre-Edit: Noticed rastaban has posted a "case" on risk.nuke after slOosh also commented on his post. I really don't like rastaban's case as it is quite exaggerated. It feels to me as it was a quick case he made as he noticed he was getting flak for not commenting on anyone besides marv. risk.nuke's actions have been quite clear as marv and shraft explained here: [ click] How is it irrelevant?
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Let's kill Zentor. To whoever asked, I already gave my current opinion on rastaban.
##Vote: MrZentor
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Also, Zephirdd, don't be ridiculous. Especially as it made me back down from my read on VE.
New tinfoilhatguy.
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I'm not sure how you can play mafia Zeph if it feels fabricated to you. It means you have no pulse at all on the psychology and emotion in a game, and therefore I really don't know how you can even try to play successfully :/
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Fairly happy with risk's recent contribution.
Had a look through Zentor's filter. His vote on me was the first time he mentioned me at all (other than the general 'how intense' comment), and worse it was in response to Zephirdd's comment about scum bussing. 'One of them has to die' - why? no reasoning.
I first got my anti-town read on Zentor in Bang Bang when he mysteriously lumped Toad into his list of scumreads without having previously mentioned him, because other people had done so. So pretty satisfied with where my vote is right now.
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Hi guys, I am back for a little while before I hit the hay. I won't be up before the deadline as it is 7am on a Sunday morning so this is my last post until the deadline.
On June 22 2012 11:03 MrZentor wrote: I really don't think either one of VE/Marv is scum.
On June 23 2012 11:20 Zephirdd wrote: Holy shit. Look at pages 16 and 17. I just solved this game. VE, marv are both scum bussing the F* out of each other. When was the last time this happened? I remember someone saying it was an "OP strategy". Wasn't it Toad/VE doing it? I don't quite remember. Someone said LI, is that it? Either way, if one of them flips scum, I'm sure as hell attacking the other. I thought the initial "attacks" were terrible for both parties, but at this point this all feels fabricated to me.
On June 23 2012 12:09 MrZentor wrote:I don't know Zephirdd....it got pretty intense, but I do agree that we should kill one of them. ##Vote: marvellosity ##Vote MrZentor
He doesn't mention the other person who has two votes already (Rastaban) and just plonks down his vote on his earlier town read with no explanation. This makes no sense from a townie POV. If he wanted to waste his vote he would put it on someone who has 0 chance of getting lynched but instead he puts it on the highest vote getter who isn't himself. He wants marvel lynched but provides no reasoning. Worse he doesn't want Rastaban lynched but provides no reasoning for that either.
Why did he vote for his town read over all the other possible candidates? Maybe it was a joke vote. Well as of now he hasn't moved it and given his lack of reasoning for anything I cannot assume he is joking.
Zentor is playing the fool and hoping to slide by with minimum effort. He can play better than this and is putting in no effort. I am more confident of a Zentor mafia flip than a Rastaban flip and hence my vote. I also think there is a possibility they are both scum.
Goodnight and Goodluck
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Vote Count (by my reckoning MrZentor (5): prplhz, VisceraEyes, slOosh, marvellosity, Probulous marvellosity (2):vonKlaust II, MrZentor von Klaust II (1): risk.nuke risk.nuke (1): rastaban rastaban (2): Snarfs, Mattchew, Not voted yet (2): Zephirdd, Shraft,

Come on guys, participate please.
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Vote Count - Roughly 8 Hours to go MrZentor (5): prplhz, VisceraEyes, slOosh, marvellosity, Probulous prplhz (0): VisceraEyes Probulous (0): Snarfs marvellosity (2): VisceraEyes, Probulous, risk.nuke, vonKlaust II, MrZentor von Klaust II (1): risk.nuke risk.nuke (1): rastaban rastaban (1): Snarfs, Mattchew Snarfs (0): slOosh Not voted yet (2): Zephirdd, Shraft
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In Bang Bang mafia 2, I thought Rastaban was mafia, and it turns out that he was doctor. Now he looks innocent to me, but I'm not really sure if that means anything.
I want to lynch marvellosity, because it will provide a lot of information about VE's role. I switched from my they're both innocent theory to the at least one is probably mafia theory, because of they're both pretty good players, and I don't think both of them are wrong.
There are two huge reasons you shouldn't kill me.
1. You'll go into day 2 with very little information compared to how much you would have if you lynched marvellosity, because me dying and flipping my townie role tells you basically nothing.
2. You'll kill a town aligned player.
Look at my one mafia game- Death Factory 2. That's my scum play- lurky, careful, large posts that say nothing.
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On June 23 2012 19:34 marvellosity wrote: Fairly happy with risk's recent contribution.
Had a look through Zentor's filter. His vote on me was the first time he mentioned me at all (other than the general 'how intense' comment), and worse it was in response to Zephirdd's comment about scum bussing. 'One of them has to die' - why? no reasoning.
I first got my anti-town read on Zentor in Bang Bang when he mysteriously lumped Toad into his list of scumreads without having previously mentioned him, because other people had done so. So pretty satisfied with where my vote is right now.
I disagree about risk, he defended himself but didn't actually contribute yet. However I doubt I am going to get enough people to vote for him today.
The reason I wanted to wait on on mr.Z untill tomorrow was because he stayed in, even after subbing out. now it isn't deffinate by any leas but it increases the likelyhood he got a blue or red role. I didn't mention this earlier because if he wasn't scum then it increased his chance of getting hit tonight. However I think his vote on marv after claiming both were probably town is pretty incriminating.
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Forgot to unvote/vote but just saw Zs post. Z are you claiming vt?
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I was quite careful to say "town aligned role".
So no.
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Mrzentor, why did you pick marv over VE if you think 1 of them is scum?
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##Unvote: risk.nuke ##Vote: MrZentor
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1. Marv has been acting weird, and his first posts were pretty scummy.
2. Even if I knew for sure that VE was scum, I probably wouldn't be able to get him lynched, because half the town is sheeping him.
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##unvote ##vote mrzentor
Thought he claimed doc so I woulda done this way earlier otherwise
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You guys are making it easy on the mafia. :p
I'm vanilla town.
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