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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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prplhz
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risk.nuke
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On June 24 2012 04:58 risk.nuke wrote: I agree completely prplhz those are thoughts I've felt about zephirdd aswell. The Miller point and the VE+Marv=scum. | ||
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Shraft
Sweden701 Posts
Good post. I am growing suspicious of him as well. That's why I questioned him here. I don't know if we have enough time or enough people to lynch him, but I think I'd rather have him lynched than rastaban or Zentor. | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On June 24 2012 04:54 risk.nuke wrote: Rastaban if you still think I'm scummy why haven't you bothered defending your case? Most of the responses were attacking me or dismissing it out right. The only legitimate response I got regarding my post was from Snarfs wanting to know my thoughts vs you instead of Zentor, which I responded why on. On June 23 2012 03:47 rastaban wrote: When I review MrZentor I see someone who hasn't contributed much, which, while scummy, isn't enough to lynch yet in my opinion.,Especially when he commits to delivering something tomorrow. I have seen players like Foolishness say the same thing so I am inclined to give him till tomorrow before I make my Judgment on him. I feel like Nuke hasn't just been a null, like MrZentor, by not contributing, but that his actions further scum agendas. There are legitimate reasons a town player may not contribute day 1, but I can't find legitimate town reasons for Risks actions. His "lol, ok #1 scum response ##Vote: marvellosity" Seems like such a cop out to get a vote on marv, instead of finding for a reason himself or even investigating it. It is the combination of not contributing but still trying to push a lynch that I find very questionable and seperated him from MrZ. What does town gain by him voting Klaust later, but not mentioning why he is doing it? The huge time gap, is so strange as well. I can see not being caught up and posting a quick one liner, but to be aware enough that one of the players still needs to post, to take your vote off someone you said was scummy, and yet not take even a moment to say something seems strange to me. I would like to hear from him on these actions and why he did it, maybe I am missing something but I feel that his actions make him extremely suspicious. I feel like people are viewing what I said about you as being due to the lack of content when I was referring to how you went about posting. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
What do you think of my post defending Zephirdd: Zephirdd is Pretty likely town, when he asked about by previous games he followed up by looking into the case and linked my previous case so others could review as well, that is a pretty town aligned action in my opinion and his last comment isn't something scum would say. It invites attention, but a townie just wants to find the truth and not be played. I liken it to my statement last game where I jokingly said that ace had rigged the game so that all lurkers were scum. It was half a joke but also out there to get people to think in that direction if things started getting fishy. Do you think mafia would have followed up on something like that? When I played mafia a long time ago I almost never went through players past games as it was pointless since I knew they were town. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On June 24 2012 05:20 rastaban wrote: @Shraft and Prplhz What do you think of my post defending Zephirdd: Zephirdd is Pretty likely town, when he asked about by previous games he followed up by looking into the case and linked my previous case so others could review as well, that is a pretty town aligned action in my opinion and his last comment isn't something scum would say. It invites attention, but a townie just wants to find the truth and not be played. I liken it to my statement last game where I jokingly said that ace had rigged the game so that all lurkers were scum. It was half a joke but also out there to get people to think in that direction if things started getting fishy. Do you think mafia would have followed up on something like that? When I played mafia a long time ago I almost never went through players past games as it was pointless since I knew they were town. I seriously need an explanation for some of this. What do you mean by his last comment isn't something scum would say? looking at his filter his last comment is explaining appeal to emotion to me as an acronoym. Are you talking about this? The fact you never went through past players game just means you're lazy as mafia. Don't attribute this to anyone who might play mafia. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On June 24 2012 05:26 marvellosity wrote: I seriously need an explanation for some of this. What do you mean by his last comment isn't something scum would say? looking at his filter his last comment is explaining appeal to emotion to me as an acronoym. Are you talking about this? The fact you never went through past players game just means you're lazy as mafia. Don't attribute this to anyone who might play mafia. Sorry I was quoting my earlier post. His last comment at that time was saying he thought the two people were bussing each other. I thought it was meant partly in jest but to be alert incase that was the case. He has said since then that he actually believes they were bussing each other so I guess it wasn't a joke like I originally thought it was. | ||
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slOosh
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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marvellosity
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On June 24 2012 03:29 Shraft wrote: Can you explain why rastaban sounds like town? Because when I looked at Bang Bang I didn't really see any similarities with his play in this game. At least no similarities that you wouldn't expect from the same player regardless of alignment, anyway. How did you go from thinking that rastaban was your best scum read to thinking that he is town? All you said was this: Since he is "the most glaring scum tell so far" for you, you must've surely seen some clear signs pointing toward him being town when you read Bang Bang Mafia for you to believe that he is town. Maybe I should have explained it better. I said it was "the most glaring scum tell" because there wasn't anything else at the time. In the same post, I say that it's probably just a bad case. From what I've read, he is looking similar to his BangBang2 meta. similar. On June 24 2012 04:54 prplhz wrote: Okay I wanted to write a case on Zephirdd last night but then I really had to sleep and I've been busy today but here we go. This is the post in question. People have already said that this is a bad plan and I agree with that. My problem isn't that he's suggesting a bad plan. it's that I think it comes from a scum perspective. Scum are much more likely to suggest plans that they think are bad for them. For scum, it doesn't really matter if millers claim or not but what Zephirdd focuses on is how it will make them confirmed green and not blue. Zephirdd thinks that that will narrow down the pool of potential blues that scum can shoot which will be a plus for scum. Townies would never focus on this because they don't really care about blues, they care about analysis and avoiding chaos and that's what miller claims will help them avoid. This is really the crux of my case but I'm going to write some more that might convince other people too. First Zephirdd is pretty suspicious about rastaban. Worst case ever into doesn't feel like your other games. He never does anything. Next he has an epiphany that VisceraEyes and marvellosity are scum and again he doesn't do anything about it. No vote, no push, no anything. He looks pretty convinced from what he is saying but he's not acting on it. In the end he jumps on the zentor wagon as the 9th voter, an ultra safe vote based off of two lines of analysis that has already been made several times by other people. What you guys think about this? What do you expect me to do? Push for a no-lynch? That's essentially what I would do at this point. I disagree with a rastaban lynch right now. I agree with a MrZentor lynch right now. I disagree with both marv or VE lynch right now, but I will come back to this later. The problem about their lynch is that one is connected to another, but if one flips town then there is nothing to back up for the other lynch. tbh, a vigilante could use a shot on one of them(here vigis in this setup?) On June 24 2012 04:56 prplhz wrote: Oh yea, Zephirdd also likes to write explanatory posts with links to mafiascum wiki which is like the least helpful thing you can do in any game. That's me as town. What's your point? | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On June 24 2012 04:54 prplhz wrote: Okay I wanted to write a case on Zephirdd last night but then I really had to sleep and I've been busy today but here we go. This is the post in question. People have already said that this is a bad plan and I agree with that. My problem isn't that he's suggesting a bad plan. it's that I think it comes from a scum perspective. Scum are much more likely to suggest plans that they think are bad for them. For scum, it doesn't really matter if millers claim or not but what Zephirdd focuses on is how it will make them confirmed green and not blue. Zephirdd thinks that that will narrow down the pool of potential blues that scum can shoot which will be a plus for scum. Townies would never focus on this because they don't really care about blues, they care about analysis and avoiding chaos and that's what miller claims will help them avoid. This is really the crux of my case but I'm going to write some more that might convince other people too. First Zephirdd is pretty suspicious about rastaban. Worst case ever into doesn't feel like your other games. He never does anything. Next he has an epiphany that VisceraEyes and marvellosity are scum and again he doesn't do anything about it. No vote, no push, no anything. He looks pretty convinced from what he is saying but he's not acting on it. In the end he jumps on the zentor wagon as the 9th voter, an ultra safe vote based off of two lines of analysis that has already been made several times by other people. What you guys think about this? what exactly are you trying to do with this? save your scum teammate zentor with a no-lynch? | ||
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