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rastaban, this is probably the post that makes you think the Zentor switching his mind is scummy (correct me if I'm wrong). Notice the timestamps. There is a whole day - a little more than 24 hours between his two posts, pages 11~19, in which a lot of VE Marv interaction happened. Do you still think what he did was scummy? (p.s. to everyone else this is what I was alluding to when I asked people for opinions on Probulous - I think it's bogus reasoning to hop on a bandwagon).
On June 23 2012 22:28 Probulous wrote:Hi guys, I am back for a little while before I hit the hay. I won't be up before the deadline as it is 7am on a Sunday morning so this is my last post until the deadline. Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 11:03 MrZentor wrote:
I really don't think either one of VE/Marv is scum. Show nested quote +On June 23 2012 11:20 Zephirdd wrote:
Holy shit. Look at pages 16 and 17. I just solved this game. VE, marv are both scum bussing the F* out of each other. When was the last time this happened? I remember someone saying it was an "OP strategy". Wasn't it Toad/VE doing it? I don't quite remember. Someone said LI, is that it? Either way, if one of them flips scum, I'm sure as hell attacking the other. I thought the initial "attacks" were terrible for both parties, but at this point this all feels fabricated to me. Show nested quote +On June 23 2012 12:09 MrZentor wrote:I don't know Zephirdd....it got pretty intense, but I do agree that we should kill one of them.  ##Vote: marvellosity ##Vote MrZentorHe doesn't mention the other person who has two votes already (Rastaban) and just plonks down his vote on his earlier town read with no explanation. This makes no sense from a townie POV. If he wanted to waste his vote he would put it on someone who has 0 chance of getting lynched but instead he puts it on the highest vote getter who isn't himself. He wants marvel lynched but provides no reasoning. Worse he doesn't want Rastaban lynched but provides no reasoning for that either. Why did he vote for his town read over all the other possible candidates? Maybe it was a joke vote. Well as of now he hasn't moved it and given his lack of reasoning for anything I cannot assume he is joking. Zentor is playing the fool and hoping to slide by with minimum effort. He can play better than this and is putting in no effort. I am more confident of a Zentor mafia flip than a Rastaban flip and hence my vote. I also think there is a possibility they are both scum. Goodnight and Goodluck
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On June 24 2012 02:40 vonKlaust II wrote:
Right now though, my best bet would be Mr.Z I think.
I don't really know about Rasta yet, but I'll check his filter out for myself and get back with my thoughts.
But for now:
##Unvote
##Vote: MrZentor
Holding you accountable.
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On June 24 2012 05:36 slOosh wrote:
Prplhz I need your current thoughts on rastaban and MrZentor. The case you made against Zephirdd could have been made very early on in the game and it clashes with your "let's lynch MrZentor if we have nothing else" because you say this phrase after the quoted Zephirdd's post.
... are you seriously asking about my opinion of zentor?
I gave my opinion on both of them already. rastaban here and zentor here. rastaban looked a little bad with his first case but he looks more interested and less lurky now. I have preferred a zentor lynch to rastaban at all points in this game. zentor himself looks like nothing.
My case on Zephirdd could have been made early on and I saw the things I just wrote in that post before anybody else started attacking the post for containing a bad plan. I just didn't want to put any pressure on him 'cause it was very early in the day and I wanted to see how he did with the least possible pressure on him.
It doesn't clash with "unless we have something else". I say that phrase or similar several times in this game because the zentor lynch has been somewhat of a policy lynch and those shouldn't be done without discussion which I was trying to encourage so scum (and others) don't have a dumb excuse for just going "lol vote zentor im afk". It doesn't mean "unless I have a slight hunch on anything else" because I always have that.
I'm still considering who I want to lynch. I agree that this zentor lynch is looking uncomfortably easy but on the other hand it was pushed pretty hard before gaining any sort of momentum and there's been a case on him like all game. rastaban's point that Zephirdd was looking up old games and scum tend to be lazy is kind of okay. I don't have any clear reads right now and this is really bothering me 'cause usually I have at least a town read or two at this point.
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i kind of want to lynch mattchew just because of that post he just made
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Understood. Bringing up Zephirdd out of no-where seemed really strange but your reasoning makes it clear. I agree with you that the current pool of candidates doesn't really inspire confidence either which way.
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What the heck deadline in like 15 minutes??
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Yea it's euro friendly all of a sudden and nobody is around.
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Switch to rastaban. If you are on the fence with either, just look at the voter lists.
Zentor has Mattchew, vonKlaust II, Zephirdd on him.
Right now its 8-5 Zentor / rasta. With one switch it will be 7-6 and one more makes it 6-7. No risk of no-lynch.
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Vote Count - Roughly 10 minutes to go
MrZentor (8): prplhz, VisceraEyes, slOosh, marvellosity, Probulous, rastaban, Mattchew, vonKlaust II, Zephirdd
prplhz (0): VisceraEyes
Probulous (0): Snarfs
marvellosity (0): VisceraEyes, Probulous, risk.nuke,vonKlaust II, MrZentor
von Klaust II (0): risk.nuke
risk.nuke (0): rastaban
rastaban (5): Snarfs, Mattchew, risk.nuke, Shraft, slOosh, MrZentor
Snarfs (0): slOosh
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On June 24 2012 06:19 slOosh wrote:rastaban, this is probably the post that makes you think the Zentor switching his mind is scummy (correct me if I'm wrong). Notice the timestamps. There is a whole day - a little more than 24 hours between his two posts, pages 11~19, in which a lot of VE Marv interaction happened. Do you still think what he did was scummy? (p.s. to everyone else this is what I was alluding to when I asked people for opinions on Probulous - I think it's bogus reasoning to hop on a bandwagon). Show nested quote +On June 23 2012 22:28 Probulous wrote:Hi guys, I am back for a little while before I hit the hay. I won't be up before the deadline as it is 7am on a Sunday morning so this is my last post until the deadline. On June 22 2012 11:03 MrZentor wrote:
I really don't think either one of VE/Marv is scum. On June 23 2012 11:20 Zephirdd wrote:
Holy shit. Look at pages 16 and 17. I just solved this game. VE, marv are both scum bussing the F* out of each other. When was the last time this happened? I remember someone saying it was an "OP strategy". Wasn't it Toad/VE doing it? I don't quite remember. Someone said LI, is that it? Either way, if one of them flips scum, I'm sure as hell attacking the other. I thought the initial "attacks" were terrible for both parties, but at this point this all feels fabricated to me. On June 23 2012 12:09 MrZentor wrote:I don't know Zephirdd....it got pretty intense, but I do agree that we should kill one of them. ##Vote: marvellosity ##Vote MrZentorHe doesn't mention the other person who has two votes already (Rastaban) and just plonks down his vote on his earlier town read with no explanation. This makes no sense from a townie POV. If he wanted to waste his vote he would put it on someone who has 0 chance of getting lynched but instead he puts it on the highest vote getter who isn't himself. He wants marvel lynched but provides no reasoning. Worse he doesn't want Rastaban lynched but provides no reasoning for that either. Why did he vote for his town read over all the other possible candidates? Maybe it was a joke vote. Well as of now he hasn't moved it and given his lack of reasoning for anything I cannot assume he is joking. Zentor is playing the fool and hoping to slide by with minimum effort. He can play better than this and is putting in no effort. I am more confident of a Zentor mafia flip than a Rastaban flip and hence my vote. I also think there is a possibility they are both scum. Goodnight and Goodluck
I hadn't noticed the the gap so while that weakens the case slightly I am bothered more by his voting marv without any reasoning. Not giving a reason for your vote isn't good for town, we need to know why (one of the reasons I think risk.nuke is scummy).
When asked about his vote he says:" I want to lynch marvellosity, because it will provide a lot of information about VE's role. I switched from my they're both innocent theory to the at least one is probably mafia theory, because of they're both pretty good players, and I don't think both of them are wrong." Lynching someone for more information on someone else isn't a good option and it still doesn't tell us why he picked Marv over VE if he thinks 1 of them is scum.
When pressed further he finally answers:
On June 24 2012 00:18 MrZentor wrote:
1. Marv has been acting weird, and his first posts were pretty scummy.
2. Even if I knew for sure that VE was scum, I probably wouldn't be able to get him lynched, because half the town is sheeping him.
Earlier he stated: "In Bang Bang mafia 2, I thought Rastaban was mafia, and it turns out that he was doctor. Now he looks innocent to me, but I'm not really sure if that means anything." but now most recently he has stated
On June 24 2012 04:43 MrZentor wrote:
There are people who I'd rather see dead *cough*Prplhz*cough*, but Rastaban isn't a bad choice.
##Unvote: Marvellosity
##Vote: Rastaban
Strangely he never once even voted for prplhz though, and he doesn't give a reason for his latest switch to me. Is marv now less scummy to him, or did he suddenly see something he missed earlier that made him se my play in a new light? I don't know 100% that he is mafia but I think he is a pretty good lynch target for day 1, and he hasn't done anything since I voted him earlier to make me think he is playing more town alligned.
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meh no
I'd rather have zentor out of this game. rastaban has shown more commitment and more transparency than zentor. You are also forgetting to mention that zentor also has players like VisceraEyes and marvellosity on him. I agree that it's not looking all too great but wouldn't you rather have rastaban with you into day2 than zentor?
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If I had it my way I'd have both dead. But yea I see your point. I just don't feel like he will flip anti-town though.
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i'm pretty sure he'll flip zentor so yes he will
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Well since D1 is over, do you want to talk about Probulous now? Starting with his vote on Zentor? I don't think he would make such a base mistake as forgetting timestamps and the 1 day / ~8 pages of discussion in between the posts.
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Night 1
![[image loading]](http://zodiblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/19snak_650.jpg)
The first day of production involved shooting in an airport in which the main protagonist, played by Samuel L Jackson, had to dodge rogue secret service agents on his way to the private jet he was to escape in. The shooting was intense, with Jackson doing his own stunts and literally kicking the asses of the numerous stunt doubles as required by the script.
Jackson's script was incomplete, however; unbeknownst to him, Artanis[Xp] had bought off some of the special effects coordinators and convinced them to release thousands of live snakes into the cutout of the airplane as filming on the scene progressed. Director wherebugsgo was off banging whores, and as this was a relatively routine scene it was left to his assistant director.
When the snakes emerged, Jackson yelled:
"What is this, some kind of fucking joke?"
Artanis[Xp] twiddled his fingers evilly, watching the horror unfold.
Jackson proceeded to kick the living shit out of the snakes, reptilian bodies piling up around him with every passing second. The cameramen, oddly enough, continued to roll film as they were enticed by the superhuman asskicking they were witnessing.
Finally, Jackson killed the last snake with his bare hands and shouted,
"I have had it with these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane! Is that what you assholes wanted to hear?"
Artanis, furious that the snakes didn't do the job, pushed over the set wall, crushing Jackson and all the crew inside.
Samuel L Jackson (MrZentor, vanilla town) was crushed under the weight of an airplane set.
You all have roughly 23 hours to send in night actions. Recall that there is a night action resolution period for ONE hour before the night deadline. During this time night actions CANNOT be changed, but you may talk in thread. Action deadline is 21:00 GMT (+00:00) with the daypost being up at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
+ Show Spoiler [finalvotecount] +Vote Count
MrZentor (8): prplhz, VisceraEyes, slOosh, marvellosity, Probulous, rastaban, Mattchew, vonKlaust II, Zephirdd
prplhz (0): VisceraEyes
Probulous (0): Snarfs
marvellosity (0): VisceraEyes, Probulous, risk.nuke,vonKlaust II, MrZentor
von Klaust II (0): risk.nuke
risk.nuke (0): rastaban
rastaban (5): Snarfs, Mattchew, risk.nuke, Shraft, slOosh, MrZentor
Snarfs (0): slOosh
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Weak. I hope you learn to shape up Zentor. Thoughts on Probulous?
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Oh, and von Klaust II: would you shoot him or not? Both questions are open-ended.
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EBWOP: open to everyone for discussion.
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Uhg, I was hoping he would be red. Take note of the vote count.
On June 24 2012 06:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
Vote Count - Roughly 10 minutes to go
MrZentor (8): prplhz, VisceraEyes, slOosh, marvellosity, Probulous, rastaban, Mattchew, vonKlaust II, Zephirdd
prplhz (0): VisceraEyes
Probulous (0): Snarfs
marvellosity (0): VisceraEyes, Probulous, risk.nuke,vonKlaust II, MrZentor
von Klaust II (0): risk.nuke
risk.nuke (0): rastaban
rastaban (5): Snarfs, Mattchew, risk.nuke, Shraft, slOosh, MrZentor
Snarfs (0): slOosh
I am in the unique position of knowing I am town so mafia obviously wasn't worried this lynch either way. The marv lynch team is split evenly onto both lynches. I am going to review what has happened so far along with the votes and see what I can find out.
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EPT
