EPTactually a jailer could have saved the target instead of stopping it from shooting, which makes a lot of sense actually.
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
actually a jailer could have saved the target instead of stopping it from shooting, which makes a lot of sense actually. | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
I will start with his post responding to my original post. On June 23 2012 10:15 risk.nuke wrote: So my first thought is what two players are yelling the loudest at eachother. It's Vicera and Marv. So naturally my first assumption would be to remove both of those from my day 1 lynch pool. While Vicera doubtlessly seems like the towniest townie ever towned marv seems a bit scummy. Partly because how his inabillity to see how Vicera is town. Anyway lets go to Rastaban, I'm sort of writing this on the fly out of lazyness so I still haven't decided who I want dead the most yet. + Show Spoiler [Rastaban Says] + On June 23 2012 00:31 rastaban wrote: I would like to put forward a new actor into the spotlight who I feel doesn't want this movie finished. One risk.nuke! This fellow looks shady to me and he must have gotten Kirsten Stewart for his actor for the poor job he has done hiding his distain for our movie. Check it out: This is his most rounded and contributing post... And it is a joke post. Next we get this gem: Not much here, he defends Z but against an attack that was never going to happen anyway so a null read on this one What a quality contribution, but after wanting to hear more from players he certainly doesn't add anything himself or even push this thought further. The original post was a joke regarding probs penchant for losing lately but risk doesn't follow up to even find that out. Wants to lynch zeph but like most bad actors he says the lines but doesn't have his actions (vote) match up to his words. He doesnt want to have the case lead back to him, and until more people have joined in he holds his vote. Perhaps you might think he is an actor who values life and is very conservative with his voting habits, but you will soon see that is not the case. Now he gets crazy like Charlie Sheen, he now throws his vote onto the marv train, but he doesn't add anything to the arguments, he doesn't even mention agreeing with others but instead he bases his vote off one post. What was this incriminating post? Well I thought it must have been the dodge marv made or perhaps his posts where he says he is confidant he doesn't get lynched, but no it is this one. Marv is showing how absurd it is to have millers breadcrumb so they can be saved later, and this post is the one risk decides justifies throwing the weight of his vote behind? I think he thought the risk train was gaining momentum and wanted to get on board. Here is his latest post, what!!!??? This is so out of the blue, he never says why he changes his mind, he doesn't even say why he votes for klaust though I am guessing inactivity. This is a huge throw away vote meaning nothing as he doesn't even ask for klaus to speak up. On top of that look at the time stamps, this occurs 10 hours after his Last post. So picture this, risk votes marv, 10 hours later he comes and votes klaust with no reasoning at all. Ahha, but what has changed? Well I and a few others have pushed for slowing down on tunneling marv, and he realizes that it might not happen. Prob mentions the lurkers need to get posting and names klaust as one of them, risk immediately votes for him. So he has 10 hours between his posts and apparently knows enough to change his mind on the marv lynch and that klaust hasn't posted yet and still we don't get even a single line of content from. This is a mafia mindset, all of hs targets are equally scummy since none of them are scum so he doesn't care about who gets lynched as long as it isn't them. Let's kick this sham of an actor off our set before he changes this movie from Signs into The Happening. ##Vote: risk.nuke There are alot of things I don't like in his so called analysis of me. Mainly because these posts were made right at the start of the game and were mostly just for getting up the activity and he complains how they are content-short. It should be obvious why it's impossible to make a case when you're the first player to talk. Oviously he doesn't approve of the case, and he says the posts were made right at the start of the game, so there was nothing to discuss. Only the first 2 posts fit this criteria and I pointed out they weren't applicable. What is else is that you will see nothing has changed since this point in his posting habits Second I think it favors town to lynch mafia rather then prioritizing people soley because they are unpleasant and that's what I said. How is it scummy? I didn't understand that inside joke that post seemed to be and I wanted Prob to come back and explain himself or post some more. Scum are sometimes a bit tense and scared to jump into the thread and zephirdd choose to jump in with some joke-post which I thought was suspicious. His entire, Oh the game has started "insert joke stuff here" felt in the spur of the moment like a condemnable lie. I voted marv because I though that was something a mafia would say when they thought the case against them was poor. Then lastly he's completely misinterpreting my voteswitch. This you probably don't know but I felt a bit annoyed because i realised that in my last games I've had an unstatisticly high ratio of misreads in the earlygame and I came to the conclusion that it's because I'm to lenient to lurkers. So I pressurevoted a guy who still hadn't joined us (but shortly after did~ heeyoo~) Anyway I didn't explain myself because I thought a pressurevote on a lurker was decent reasoning enough and it shouldn't had been so hard to figure out that was what I was doing without me spelling it out for you. Here he admits he is changing his play style and his reasoning is he is too lenient to lurkers, but he is lurking this whole game. I don't buy it + Show Spoiler [Rastaban Says II] + On June 23 2012 03:08 rastaban wrote: Wow, really surprised no one sees the vote switching without any reason at all not scummy. My case is misconstrued as "risk.nuke has not yet posted anything of value." That would be a case against Also I never saw Sloosh's post as it took me far longer than 30 minutes to work up a case against risk. You know why ,because I don't throw accusations around wildly until I have convinced myself. Last game as a doctor I had no gun and so I had to mafia reads and a town read but since it was my first game in a year and I was afraid that without a gun if I pushed too hard they would want me to shoot and out my role. Well no one seemed to care about my cases but me but in the end I was correct. Day 1 of Bang Bang I posted this: "Meapak_Ziphh, your filter looked really bad last night tons of filler and no posts contributing to discussion, but you seem to be posting more like your normal self today. Mind explaining what was going on?" I actually had an entire case typed up like I just did for risk and yet I decided to go easy and let him slide, well guess what he was GF. If I had pushed for him like I thought I should have day 1 we might have outed GF immediately. This game I am trying something different since I don't worry about having a gun, I am going to push my scum reads and try and save my town reads. If I get lynched for that, at least town gets a trail votes to follow that led up to it. Sorry but this is so similar to bang bang's Gonzaw fiasco where everyone clamored about him being red while I thought the case against him was awful, he gets shot flips blue and since it was almost all townies pushing the lynch we started the next day clueless as to where to begin which is why I had to post the Cephiro case linked above to begin with. So yeah, I stand by thinking risk is our best candidate and want him lynched. I am putting forward someone who is actually scummy instead of the marv case where half of it is based on his reaction to a leading question. Not much here but I think it's safe to say it shouldn't take 30 minutes or more to analyse what very little I had written, come on, it's not many lines. Another key thing, he faults how long it took me but as you will soon see for thinking it only takes 30 min to argue a case he doesn't ever post one himself. In this post Rastaban makes sense. He supports the miller-must claim which is basic. Though I wouldn't award him town-points for agreeing. The second paragraph is more interesting to me. It shows that he knows how to be carefull with bandwagons. Which makes no sense at all that the next thing he does is he try to push me hard on exagerated and out-of-context reasoning. I think I'm done with rastaban but it's 3:15 now. Sorry T.B.C. tomorrow. He ends with T.B.C. tomorrow, but as you will see he never followed up with anything to help town from this point on. Let me lump he next few posts together. On June 24 2012 01:49 risk.nuke wrote: rastaban zephirdd and zentor, what are your thoughts on eachother? On June 24 2012 01:53 risk.nuke wrote: vonKlaust II what are your thoughts on the lynch? Instead of contributing any original thoughts at all to the conversation he sits around asking 1 line questions with no follow up. This is a perfect way for scum to hide as it doesn't require any original thoughts from them. On June 24 2012 02:22 risk.nuke wrote: There are a few hours left but it's starting to become time we worked up on a majority. I'm going to vote for Rastaban ##Unvote: von Klaust II ##Vote: Rastaban Again we have a vote, this time on me but what is missing? Any reasoning on why. His biggest reason is to start working on a majority, but at this point we already had or almost had one on Zentor, so why vote for me over zentor? I think he just wanted to spread out the mafia vote so they weren't all on one guy. On June 24 2012 04:47 risk.nuke wrote: Honestly I'm fine with both Zentor and Rastaban (Klaus aswell and maybe zephirdd), I'm feeling I prefer rastaban but I don't care enough to sway people one way or the other. Aslong as we have majority on one, This post is incredibly incriminating... he is fine with lynching 4 different people. He has yet to give a single reason on any of them but he finds all of them viable targets. To me this is the words of mafia and not a town player. On June 24 2012 04:54 risk.nuke wrote: Rastaban if you still think I'm scummy why haven't you bothered defending your case? Another post where he asks questions of other players and yet still adds 0 to the game himself. On June 24 2012 04:58 risk.nuke wrote: I agree completely prplhz those are thoughts I've felt about zephirdd aswell. Now he agrees with someone, and says he had been thinking the same thing. He uses past tense and yet why didn't he bring the accusation forward or say something but instead waited on others? He has already said it shouldn't have taken me 30 minutes to put a case together against him, and yet he is so busy he can't not only put a case together but not even add a single original thought this entire game. He hasn't added a single thing to this entire game, and his only time to post anything longer than a line or two was when he felt threatened. He promised to follow up but didn't, He was fine with lynching any of four people, never trying to narrow those results down to the right one because as scum he doesn't care who dies when they are townies.. ##Vote risk.nuke | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On June 25 2012 07:34 Zephirdd wrote: ebwop actually a jailer could have saved the target instead of stopping it from shooting, which makes a lot of sense actually. Yeah I was doctor last game with a night 1 save so It seemed most likely, I had also forgot in this one you could block night KP, in bang bang you couldn't block KP. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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risk.nuke
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On June 25 2012 07:51 risk.nuke wrote: Rastaban if you really are townie (which I don't think you are) you dodged a lynch last night and seeing how we mislynched a townie that makes the situation even worse for you. My point is if you don't want to die soon you should do something more usefull then dumb shit tunneling. Sorry scum, but you can't shake me. Is that really your version of a defense? | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
If so, is the notification the same as if they have been roleblocked? | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On May 30 2012 22:55 risk.nuke wrote: I fully agree we should form a plan for the poisons. As it's already been said some of them are looking very dangerous. One thing I'm not sure about is if we can just remove two because it wont go past day5. If there is a medic save or just for theory for whatever reason the mafia decides not to kill anyone it could prolong the game into that zone. So I think it might be a safer to not leave for example these -The mafia team recieves a secret hidden vote -Majority + 1 is required for a sucessful lynch for that window. I do however see it as unlikely that it will come to day 7 so we can probably safely remove 1. For the voting I'm not sure if one power is stronger then the others but I agree that we're probably better of not sharing our votes ahead of time (so we use the encryption system) because I don't think any power we give the mafia will be more advantagous for us then not letting them know what we're giving them. Until I started looking at your history I thought maybe you had never posted more than 1 line, then I realized you do when you actually wanted town to win. Or how about when you actually tried to analyze people? On June 03 2012 23:50 risk.nuke wrote: I think we should lynch zephirdd for two reasons. 1. It will shed light on the voteswitch. It is infact very important that we learn zephirdds aligntment or we'll just stab ourselves in the foot if he turns out to be town. 2. Wbg was for lynching 3 people. Myself, Navillus and Zephirdd (And kurumi who he might not have pushed for because he didn't think he could get him lynched). Wbg was killed which indicates that the mafia believed he was on to something. Knowing that I am town, Navillus is town that leaves Zephirdd (and Kurumi). How comes you contribute in that game but not in this one? Why you want town to lose? | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On June 25 2012 08:07 Probulous wrote: If a person is jailed are they notified? If so, is the notification the same as if they have been roleblocked? I can't imagine having a jailer that doesn't inform a person he's been roleblocked. Altough the role specifices that neither the Jailer or the target will be notified by a sucessfull save. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On June 25 2012 08:12 risk.nuke wrote: I can't imagine having a jailer that doesn't inform a person he's been roleblocked. Altough the role specifices that neither the Jailer or the target will be notified by a sucessfull save. That's why I asked the question. It is possible that someone gets jailed and doesn't get notified unless they have an action which fails. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On June 25 2012 08:07 Probulous wrote: If a person is jailed are they notified? If so, is the notification the same as if they have been roleblocked? I'm uncertain. If such an event took place this night, I have not sent PM's about it. WBG will answer you once he gets online. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On June 25 2012 08:34 marvellosity wrote: just gonna assume for now mafia shot VE and the jailer saved him by jailing him For someone who thought VE was scum this is an odd position to take. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On June 25 2012 08:34 marvellosity wrote: just gonna assume for now mafia shot VE and the jailer saved him by jailing him VE spent his day1 tunneling on you. Why would mafia shoot VE? Are you mafia? While we're at it, did VE carry the scum kill so a jailer blocked him? | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
2: Assume that scum shot him because he was obviously townie 3: ??? 4: Get lynched I had another case kind of ready but I need your explanation right now. Why are you even assuming anything? What are you going to use this assumption for? What happened to analysis? wat | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 25 2012 08:39 Zephirdd wrote: VE spent his day1 tunneling on you. Why would mafia shoot VE? Are you mafia? While we're at it, did VE carry the scum kill so a jailer blocked him? huh? I came to the conclusion eventually VE was probably town, and other people in the thread have said VE was playing pro town and I was suspicious for being suspicious of him. Fairly obvious why mafia would shoot him thusly don't understand the final question | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 23 2012 07:36 marvellosity wrote: fuck you're probably town | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Let me tell you what I think happened. VE was jailed. Then scum KP didn't happen. Then you thought "fuck, our goon was jailed." and then you posted that. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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