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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 06 2012 22:20 GMT
#1481
Cause he plays like this as town
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 06 2012 22:21 GMT
#1482
@NSH: Come to think of it, he trolled a lot less in TLM LIV(? the TF2 one). Let me read up on him and offer my thoughts. Also, what do you think of what Kurumi posted earlier?

@grush: I would also like to know who you want to off.

@kurumi: Give me a bit to think about what you have to say.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 06 2012 22:25 GMT
#1483
He doesn't play like this as town from what I recall. He posts more and at the very least he posts as if he has some portion of a functioning cerebrum.

In this game he's done literally nothing.

I liked Kurumi's post, it actually made me question my read on BKE.

However the problem I have is that in past games scum are identified as people who need to die but they never die, thus winning the game later. I see that problem with grush. It's potentially true with casualman too but he apparently trolls just as hard normally.
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 06 2012 22:26 GMT
#1484
On July 07 2012 07:25 NoSmurfHere wrote:
He doesn't play like this as town from what I recall. He posts more and at the very least he posts as if he has some portion of a functioning cerebrum.

In this game he's done literally nothing.

I liked Kurumi's post, it actually made me question my read on BKE.

However the problem I have is that in past games scum are identified as people who need to die but they never die, thus winning the game later. I see that problem with grush. It's potentially true with casualman too but he apparently trolls just as hard normally.


So you're saying you don't want to vote for BKE on the basis that "Oh sure he's probably scum, but this guy needs to die FIRST"

....is that what's going on here?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
July 06 2012 22:35 GMT
#1485
T_T definitely between Twelve and BKE though. Kurumi's post does really point out the flaws of BKE, and when pressure came off he was all beepin up the beep, ya know. BUT u may b like, GURSHDEVICE U DON'T HELP AT ALL. True, homeieieieieieieiieieeieieieieieiei, but it doesn't change the fact.



aLZo, 11, __, 13 seems like a noobie townie.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

##Vote:BKE
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 06 2012 22:46 GMT
#1486
Bugs, would you choose BKE or twelve if you had to unvote grush?

When things go too easy one should get suspicious, the BKE case is developing quite fast.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 06 2012 23:13 GMT
#1487
@NSH: AFAIK, grush hasn't actually played any games as scum. He trolls a lot no matter what. I would think he would troll less if he rolled scum. He seems to be trolling more this game. We'll have to keep an eye on him.

Regardless, VE brings up a good point. We should deal with the scum in front of us before we start lynching into the insane players in this game. You say that you questioned your read on BKE. Does that mean you're thinking null or scum now?

Still crossing my fingers for a mad hatter in this game.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 06 2012 23:13 GMT
#1488
On July 07 2012 07:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 07:25 NoSmurfHere wrote:
He doesn't play like this as town from what I recall. He posts more and at the very least he posts as if he has some portion of a functioning cerebrum.

In this game he's done literally nothing.

I liked Kurumi's post, it actually made me question my read on BKE.

However the problem I have is that in past games scum are identified as people who need to die but they never die, thus winning the game later. I see that problem with grush. It's potentially true with casualman too but he apparently trolls just as hard normally.


So you're saying you don't want to vote for BKE on the basis that "Oh sure he's probably scum, but this guy needs to die FIRST"

....is that what's going on here?


My gut says BKE is town, but my gut has been wrong before.

I'm not very confident in my reads ATM given the fact that I haven't had much time to read over the game and also how much resistance my pushes have faced. Maybe I'm being too weak-willed and this is an issue of confidence.

Grush does need to die though. Do you agree?
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 06 2012 23:16 GMT
#1489
@vivax: Too quickly means either all of the scum are pushing it at the same time, or it's just kind of obvious.

You're all over the place with your read on BKE. You think he's scum or not?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 06 2012 23:26 GMT
#1490
I think he's scum based on dead scum's posts and actions and because he lied to have a reason for voting twelve.

But I don't like twelve and Shiao either.
Since twelve constantly tunneled BKE, I have to assume they are of different alignment.Since I find them both scummy, I'm not feeling comfortable with deciding for one, but atm I'm still leaning towards BKE.

Grush doesn't offer enough reads for me to decide. And for BKE, aside from the fact that he looks scummy, I value the information coming from his flip.

Once the BKE-twelve-matter is cleared we can go on and lynch the hard to read ones, once we can evaluate their interactions with the flipped ones.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 06 2012 23:39 GMT
#1491
Okay, someone else read Kurumi's final point about BKE knowing another players alignment and tell me if he's right on that account.

Overall, I agree with what Kurumi had to day. He's right, BKE has been inconsistent with his position on casualman (another player I'm praying gets hit with a bomb). I'm just having trouble agreeing with that final point. I have no idea why. Also, BKE's absence today is kind of strange. Still not sure what to make of that.

I'm going to spend some more time thinking about this.

FYI, I'm going to be gone most of tomorrow. I won't be here even close to the deadline. Tomorrow morning (East Coast timezone), I should be able to be on for a bit. I'll cast my vote at that point, and then I'm off!
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 07 2012 00:08 GMT
#1492
That alignment thing kurumi mentioned:

I don't thing it's a good argument
BKE suspected twelve of being scum and so he had a reason to say that a townie would have stopped the switch. Doesn't necessarily mean he knew the alignment, rather reflects what he believed it to be.

BKE's last posts kind of let him look townish, he also suspects me and austin before he got nightkilled (same reason why I got doubts about a scum twelve, actually).

Can't really decide between twelve or BKE, but doesn't matter, both lynches can clear a lot of things up. I hope at least , scum can always have put false tracks, they might even be tunneling each other, so I see that the information aspect is pretty unsafe.

Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
July 07 2012 00:22 GMT
#1493
Guys. I'm DT. BKE is town(n1). Katina is scum(n2). I have to work today 12 hours so im kinda afk
Thailand is my new obsession
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
July 07 2012 00:24 GMT
#1494
I already stated BKE was town day 2.

But I'm not so sure about vivas now. A case of over tunnel townie or bold scum.
Thailand is my new obsession
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 07 2012 00:27 GMT
#1495
On July 07 2012 09:22 Hyaach wrote:
Guys. I'm DT. BKE is town(n1). Katina is scum(n2). I have to work today 12 hours so im kinda afk


-_-

I don't know what to make of that.

brb, reading hyaach's filter.

Side note, if he is in fact the DT, i see no reason to doubt his claims. Scum Katina makes sense, and I doubt there are two GFs in this game.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 07 2012 00:28 GMT
#1496
On July 07 2012 09:22 Hyaach wrote:
Guys. I'm DT. BKE is town(n1). Katina is scum(n2). I have to work today 12 hours so im kinda afk

Well, now we have a new lynch! That is you!
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ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 07 2012 00:28 GMT
#1497
Oh, there are framers in this game. That's good to know.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 07 2012 00:31 GMT
#1498
On July 07 2012 09:28 ghost_403 wrote:
Oh, there are framers in this game. That's good to know.

Yup. Basically, kind of a big deal.
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Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
July 07 2012 00:32 GMT
#1499
Does framer work on scum? Causing them to change green to checks

the answer is no but Mod please answer again in thread.

So Katina may be framed but I doubt so. His play is weak and vague so far. But BKE is town.
Thailand is my new obsession
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 07 2012 00:33 GMT
#1500
And you think a framer would have picked kat?

I kind of believe hyaach.And if he lied we will know soon enough.

Katina defended twelve, so let's see where this goes:

##Vote Twelve

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