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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 06 2012 16:18 GMT
#1461
I've decided to put a small summary of how BKE treated casualman throughout the game.
On June 30 2012 16:24 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 14:23 casualman wrote:
I love to bandwagon. Being a newb, I can read nothing from these posts and will blindly trust in authority figures. Woohoo!

##Vote BroodKingEXE

I cant think of a town reason to post this batshit insane. Sarcasm? Until you answer: ##Vote: casualman

Early day1. Look how BKE answers to this. He seems to look at that as a big scumtell.

On July 01 2012 15:55 BroodKingEXE wrote:
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On July 01 2012 14:14 MajuGarzett wrote:
On July 01 2012 14:01 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 01 2012 13:57 MajuGarzett wrote:
On July 01 2012 13:38 s0Lstice wrote:
MajuGarzett: your vote is on NoSmurfHere. What do you make of this?

On June 30 2012 10:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I am a Role Name.

how quaint.


On June 30 2012 11:28 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I'm not kidding, my role PM is like "you're a Role Name.".


Acrofales: Vivax has played one game as scum. Either he learned a hell of a lot from that game, or he is matching his town meta pretty damn close. The latter is a simpler explanation. More, in the game he played scum, he spent a looooot of time in the scum QT, hurting his activity in the thread. So far in this game he has been very quick on the uptake, fearless of the consequences of what he has to say. Seems pretty town to me.

Katina: I've done some digging on past games. It's late and it was a lot of reading, but I didn't see anything in your town games that resembles your first post in this game. It's puzzling to me that you lead off your spiel on Broodking with the stated intent that you are sheeping VE. I know you can do better analysis than this because I've seen it. I want to know your other reads.

grush57: You were extremely talkative in the game we played together. You had things to say in LV as well. I don't like your silence, it doesn't become you.

On refresh I see some stuff about Mandalor. I hesitate to jump on him for the post Adam highlighted. The guy hasn't been playing mafia since the first games on TL, so his ideas on day 1 play and policy lynching are bound to be archaic. I want to see more from him before deciding.

I want to kill mKmKmK or Katina today. I'm leaning more towards Katina, but I'd be ok with either.



People claim VT all the time, to me it didn't signify much. My decision was based on other stuff.

I think people should remove votes from casualman. He's probably going to get shot anyways so people should be voting for others. Especially Broodking. When under so much pressure he chose a rather easy vote on someone who's just being weird. I want to see a better vote from him.


You say people should be voting for others, particularly Brood, when your own vote is on me.

There's a whole bunch of problems with this. First of all, you're telling people to vote Brood and not me, which means you either don't have confidence in my read and your vote shouldn't be on me in the first place or you're scum who doesn't want to vote for brood.

Secondly you say that he chose an easy vote on someone who's just being weird. Isn't that EXACTLY what a vote on Brood is? A vote on someone who is being "weird"?

Do you read your own posts?

I phrased that badly. I meant Brood should vote for someone other than casualman since by voting for casual he really doesn't give any information since casual seems to be messing around. Sorry for the poor wording.

Brood has been weird in the sense that he seems scummy. Casualman is weird in the sense that he hasn't done shit.


I have put up a FoS on Katina as a side option. Casual's play is scummy to me (a move so insane it makes us think he is town), so Im going to keep my vote on him. Not to say that I dont have suspicions on others...

He slowly tries to advocate that casual's play might be actually a town tell. Refusal to help town? Check. One liners? Check. Random voting? Check. So many town tells.

On July 03 2012 12:19 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Looking at casual's other TL posts, looks like he is trolling there too. He's a toss up in my book now. I'd be up or a Kat or Hyaach lynch both have scummy posts (Hyaach is low on posts but he's been making excuses against posting content the whole time).
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BKE brings in casual's normal posting behaviour to the Mafia forum. I believe someone did exact same to me, probably the weakest evidence ever. So from scum, casualman moved to town in BKE's eyes FOR NO REASON.

On July 04 2012 13:26 BroodKingEXE wrote:
@Kat look at casualman's TL posting (click profile, then the number) in general, he's a troll. You're not really breaking his behavior down like your town meta usually suggests. Trying to drive a townie lynch EH?

He's a troll, trolls are town, easy peasy gg.
Wishy-washy much, BKE? I fail to see ANYTHING in casual's play saving him. I am still hoping someone offs him, since I can't do it myself and people are hesitant to lynch him (freaking afk RoL Poisoner fiasco... I hate that play).

And something interesting...
On July 05 2012 12:40 BroodKingEXE wrote:
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On July 05 2012 10:14 Hyaach wrote:
what was this shennigan. i was here the whole time and i hane no idea why people were jumping so hard on ey lynch. he was afk thus his meta was off. i read that as a bad reason for ppl to lynch him off. gonna see the list when i get home and do some reviewing.


Here the whole time! A townie would have jumped in and stopped the switch. You are going down dude.

This bit implies that BKE knows Twelve's alignment. Do I need to explain it more?

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Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 06 2012 17:21 GMT
#1462
Im glad to see that people are starting to notice that BKE is scum.

##Vote: BroodKingEXE
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 06 2012 17:29 GMT
#1463
I am going to read broods filter tonight when I get home but from what I remember I have a town read and would rather lynch twelve
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 06 2012 17:29 GMT
#1464
Forgot to put a vote on BKE, done now.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
July 06 2012 17:29 GMT
#1465
What did you get from Austins filter, 12?

Why did you think that BKE is scum again?
Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 06 2012 17:57 GMT
#1466
I reread Austin's filter twice and despite his well thought out posts, I didn't really pull much out that I found was useful going forward.

I have never stopped thinking BKE was scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
July 06 2012 18:34 GMT
#1467
On July 07 2012 02:57 Twelve wrote:
I have never stopped thinking BKE was scum.



The question was why you thought BKE was scum, not what you think of his alignment. What do you suggest as proof for a scum BKE?

Right now you look like you're bandwagoning with zero contribution.

Maybe a BKE lynch isn't the best idea?
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 06 2012 19:05 GMT
#1468
Alright, I'll be taking the train to my partents now. I will only be able to post from my mobile.
Not sure if I can go online before votecount ends so here it is. I'll stick to twelve. The voteswitch looked too weird.

##Vote: Twelve
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 06 2012 20:18 GMT
#1469
okay, after being out for some time I finally got to reread BKE's Filter.

He is actively going under the radar (with success, I guess as I overlooked him day 2) and has not a mentionable amount of contribution. Also his votes were all on targets which were the current sentiment of the thread.
Add that to his day 1 stuff and I say we got a solid lynch candidate.

##vote: BroodkingEXE
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 06 2012 21:18 GMT
#1470
On July 07 2012 05:18 ShiaoPi wrote:
okay, after being out for some time I finally got to reread BKE's Filter.

He is actively going under the radar (with success, I guess as I overlooked him day 2) and has not a mentionable amount of contribution. Also his votes were all on targets which were the current sentiment of the thread.
Add that to his day 1 stuff and I say we got a solid lynch candidate.

##vote: BroodkingEXE


Anyone notice the problem here?
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 06 2012 21:26 GMT
#1471
You probably want to say that all these aspects are also fitting to me? I always gave transparent reasoning on my reads, elaborating on them as well. But if you do want to point something out then say it.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 06 2012 21:31 GMT
#1472
Oho he's aware of his own play!
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 06 2012 21:36 GMT
#1473
Compare my filter with bke then try pointing out the aspects I had mentioned on him on me. Then we can talk
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
July 06 2012 21:50 GMT
#1474
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 04 2012 07:42 ShiaoPi wrote:
I probably should have added a housekeeping post that BKE is improving in my opinion on his posting and that I am still closely looking when he posts, but am moving to hyaach as the target of active pursuit.
To the agreement stuff, where did I actually say I agree with BKE on that and that thing? The only thing I can see is that he seems willing to lynch hyaach now, where I was actually the first to really pressure him.



This is Shiao's last post regarding BKE before he voted for him. Shiao pressured him earlier, but then went over to wiggles, then to hyaach.

I find Shiao's lack of interest in pursuing his own cases..strange, and not trying to question the votes on BKE since you last said he was improving. Did he post anything scummy since then to make you switch your opinion?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
July 06 2012 21:56 GMT
#1475
Shiao, what are your reads on twelve, katina and grush?

Please try to not say null.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
July 06 2012 21:57 GMT
#1476
I asked you for too much with the read on grush, it's pretty much impossible, tell me about hyaach instead please.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
July 06 2012 21:58 GMT
#1477
On July 07 2012 06:57 Vivax wrote:
I asked you for too much with the read on grush, it's pretty much impossible, tell me about hyaach instead please.


Hiss.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 06 2012 22:17 GMT
#1478
BKE has not shown any activity lately, his day 2 play was better than his day 1 play so I focused on hyaach, but it did not mean that he became a townread for me.
You can see my thoughts on twelve in an earlier post, he is still a nullish read who I wish had flipped instead for ET. just so we can stop discussing him.
I want grush to die or start doing something, like pretty much the majority of the thread I guess.
Katina is nullish tending town, her recent posts are much better and she is offering up reads and opinions.
hyaach is tending town now. He is pushing his read and generally more helpfull than before (which wasn't too hard to be honest), he could still be more transparent though.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 06 2012 22:18 GMT
#1479
ebwop: sup, grush, who you wanna kill?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 06 2012 22:19 GMT
#1480
Why is it that everyone wants to kill grush but no one is actually willing to do it?
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
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