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VisceraEyes
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gonzaw looks better than everyone else you mentioned leaving behind. Your case is going to be required. Sorry sir. This Radfield wagon could use some help though... | ||
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##Unvote: Radfield ##Vote: Mr.Wiggles Wiggles performance in this game has been even worse than Radfield's...the difference is that I have a hard time reading Wiggles anyway both based on the infrequency of his posts regardless of alignment, and the tone/logic employed in his posts regardless of alignment. Radfield is generally more active as town, hence my scum read on him. Because his play has been so atrocious, if he's able to change it up and actually do some shit, I'd like to give him that chance. Wiggles hasn't done shit this game except put down placeholder votes and make a half-assed accusation of someone each time he graces us with his presence. I'm ready to kill the Wiggle man. | ||
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##Vote: Hesmyrr I mixed up games yesterday when I said that, my bad.  I was having a serious problem keeping games straight when I was running around like a crazy person at work. I'm all good now.I think Wiggles is a good lynch, but honestly I think you're case on Hes is better. I filtered Wiggles and again I'm having a hard time coming to a conclusion. I'd like to see some more from him (although whether I can EXPECT it or not is up for debate.) ##Unvote: MrWiggles ##Vote: Hesmyrr | ||
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Vote's so nice, I had to do it twice.  | ||
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Wiggles wrote of chaoser: First, he did that weird thing with the RNG. I have no idea how that was supposed to work though, because RNG doesn't work with just someone posting a number and saying that's who we're lynching. But, after not enough people supported him, and I called him out on it, he says that it was for pressure and to see how Ace reacted. That sounds silly though, because the pressure would always be weak, and Ace didn't back off RNG but Chaoser still pushed him for it. Like I said, false pressure. Second, I don't understand his initial case on Grey at all. I don't know what he means by "you show no suspicion to the usage of terms", but I guess he's saying that he's not suspicious of different names and that makes him scummy? But this is an iGrok game. I lost Sleeper Cell I because I lynched a guy for having a green bolded name when no one else did. I learned my lesson, and I know iGrok has done similar things in lots of his games since then with regards to flavour and role name, because flavour hunting is just stupid. So, it makes sense for GreY not to necessarily question that they have different names, which makes Chaoser's accusation weird and off-base. Then he calls out GreY for wanting to lynch me and not MZ. The thing is though, there's nothing stopping GreY from thinking I made a bad post even if MZ made a worse post, so that's not really a valid for saying he's scum. Just because something is worse than something else doesn't mean that other thing can't still be bad (On a side note, I don't think my post was bad, this is from GreY's PoV ). So again, I don't like Chaoser's reasoning for voting GreY. Third, Chaoser didn't change his vote from GreY to MZ. There wasn't enough support for the GreY lynch it seemed, and the votes between Palmar and MZ were very close. Chaoser said he'd prefer an MZ lynch after a GreY lynch, and that he thought Palmar was playing well. However, he never ended up changing his vote to ensure someone he thought was scummy would get lynched instead of someone he thought was playing well. That stinks. On your first point, I kinda took that as a joke - most everyone (at least in this game) knows that one person just picking a number doesn't work. It's for that reason that I took his screengrab of random.org and vote of Ace as a joke. I mean, obviously that's subjective, but that's just how I took it. I didn't find anything scummy about this, as we were all trolling a little bit at the beginning of the game (except you Wiggles, you're always super-serious. )On your second point, that depends on the player. Palmar caught me as scum in AC because of how I was overlooking blatently scummy things by people and calling others out for less scummy things. That being said, I'm not sure I'd classify someone like GreY as one you can catch in that manner. If he'd called out like Palmar or Radfield for this same thing, I'd be more inclined to take the accusation seriously - but for GreY....he could just be overlooking it. No offense intended GreY, I just haven't seen you post really good results in a game...if I'm mistaken let me know. I agree with you that this looks like an odd coming from chaoser. It feels like stretching to make something scummy. On your third point, this could be inactivity or it could be something more sinister. I mean, if he's town and was genuinely suspicious of GreY, the votes have been so close the last couple of lynches that his one vote could have been all it took to get GreY lynched. I don't really see this as alignment-indicative. So the question becomes: did chaoser REALLY find GreY suspicious? To answer this, I'm going to filter chaoser. You think no, right Wiggles? | ||
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I'm taking my daughter to the sprayground + Show Spoiler + Have you guys seen these things? They're badass and I'm shitty they didn't have them when I was young... | ||
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How do you guys wanna handle this? | ||
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Are they two townies? Are they scum together? Is one of them scum and the other town? This is the question for tomorrow. Whether one of them ends up being the lynch (not likely) we should try and figure out the alignment of those two players first if they're both alive at the daypost. Both of them being alive is extremely suspicious. prplhz you've come in to a pretty shady situation. chaoser was posting extremely suspiciously, and I was ready to switch off Hes to chaoser yesterday. You're going to have to bring the pain tonight (or tomorrow if you're alive) because I do NOT agree with Radfield...I think that given what we know, your slot has the greatest chance of flipping scum. I think gonzaw is the SK. It's gut, and I have no intention of trying to prove it. Just his demeanor and the way he has talked about the SK makes me think he's the guy. Wiggles, I kinda want your thoughts down in the thread before the daypost for obvious reasons if you're town. | ||
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That's his town play right? | ||
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On June 15 2012 04:38 Palmar wrote: yeah i wont be able to get this together today. voting radfield for being blatantly and probably maliciously wrong about visceraeyes. Like...if he was so sure that gonzaw was scum that he's his lynch choice over everyone else all day, it should not have been a thing where he had to "get this together". He should have known exactly why he was scummy, at least enough to paraphrase reasoning. It's starting to smell. :/ I don't like it. | ||
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...of Palmar's swing to you and NOT my apparent swing to chaoser... | ||
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