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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 23:26:26
May 26 2012 18:41 GMT
#1
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*zelblade is helping me co-host this game. Any questions can be directed towards him or myself.

The coaches for this game are: Nova_Terra (mafia) + Mementoss & marvellosity (town). Please consult them if you want advice on playing the game.

A note on sign-ups. You may only sign up if you have three or fewer games played

I'm also in need of coaches. PM me if you are interested

Newbie Mini XV

+ Show Spoiler [Important Posts] +

Day 1 post
Night 1 post
Day 2 post
Night 2 post
Day 3 post
Night 3 post
Day 4 post
Endgame



Introduction:

Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia.

The game is typically very active, so the thread will get big quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play. I will not compensate for ignorance.


Rules:

Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information.
2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.
3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
4. Comparing role PM times to determine roles.
5. Posting screenshots of your inbox.
6. Posting any PM you receive from a host.
7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
8. Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits.
10. Sharing accounts with other players. Only you may post on your account.
11. Comparing / posting the phrasing of host-PMs including the Role-PM to figure out alignments
12. No talk about wincons!
Cheating is not tolerated here. The punishment will be severe.

Posting:

Mod Font:
This is mod font. It is reserved for moderators. Please do not use it.

Question Font:
This is question font. Use it to ask the moderators questions about the rules. Please do us a favor and read the rules before you ask anything.

Activity:
You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled.

Smurfs:
Do not sign up as one. I will find out, and be upset. This is a game for new players only

Spam:
Spam is not tolerated, nor is any off-topic material. Do not discuss Proleague here. Do not talk about Starcraft II here. Play Mafia here. I don't mind a little spam as long as it's game related as it can be a viable strategy or people being a little more talkactive. Keep it simple

Editing:
Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning. After that, you will be modkilled. This is the one part of the site where it is okay to be double posting, even triple-posting. While I ask for everybody to post as concisely as possible, post again if you have to edit anything.

Inappropriate posts:
If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host, Qatol, or Flamewheel before involving the TL staff. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally.

Reporting posts:
The report button is a nice feature for regular TL, but not for this forum. We prefer to deal with things in house if possible to avoid confusion among the TL staff. If you have a problem with how someone is posting, talk to the host, co-host, Qatol, or Flamewheel before using your report button. Please do not use your report button for anything other than inappropriate posts which you feel are not being dealt with adequately.

Ban discussions:
Please wait until this game is over to talk about modkills and bans resulting from this game.

Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.

This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game.

You have been warned.



Voting rules:

1. Voting is done in this thread. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote.
2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game.
5. This game follows Extended Majority Lynch Rules. Majority = #of players remaining in the game/2) (rounded down) + 1. Unlike in traditional majority lynch, the lynch is NOT decided the moment majority is reached. Instead, only the final vote count matters. If there is no majority at the deadline, the day ends with a no lynch. Non-voters will be modkilled for failure to vote.
6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.


Signups:

This game is open to new players only this means three or fewer games played here on TL


Game-specific rules:

Modkills:
This game follows the TL Mafia Ban List. If you are modkilled, your punishment will go beyond being eliminated from this game. Please refer to it for questions about your punishment. If you want to use this game to sit out your ban, please PM Flamewheel or post in the Ban List.

Replacements
This game uses replacements. Replacements will be made in the game until I say so. If a player is modkilled during the designated time, then they will be replaced by a player on the replacement list.

Clues:
There are NO clues.

PMs
PMs are not allowed in this game.

Time Cycle:
This game will follow a (24 hour night/48 hour) day cycle. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the 48 hour mark will not count and the game will be put on halt until the night post is up. Currently the deadline is time, but that is subject to change.
The deadline will be 22:30 GMT (+00:00) and we will start once all slots are full + maybe 1 or 2 days depending what day it is.


Credits:
Thanks to anyone who has ever hosted a game. This list grows ever longer.
Special thanks to GMarshal because this is basicly his set-up and Radfield for advice!

If you have not read all the rules, go back and do so. I will not compensate for ignorance!
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 18:42:15
May 26 2012 18:41 GMT
#2
The setup is a modified version of F11; one of the following four setups is to be randomly chosen and used:

Set Up:
1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective
1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 9 Town
3 Mafia Goons, 1 Medic, 8 Town.
3 Mafia Goons, 1 Detective, 8 Town.

You will not know which setup is chosen.



Roles:

Townie
You are just a normal player with no night actions. All you can do is vote during the day. But the town needs you to win so be active!

Detective
You can make night investigations. Once per night you may ask for the alignment of any player. Alignments are either Town or Mafia. You are always sane. Alignment checks come back with the next day post.

Medic
You have the power to save lives. Once per night you can watch a player. If your target is attacked, you will block one hit aimed at them. If you make a successful save, both you and your target will be notified of the save. You cannot save yourself.

Mafia Goon
Your goal is to eliminate everyone else in the town. Your ability, as a group, is killing off whomever you decide on at night and knowing the role of each other player in your mafia. You may kill your own members. Mafia killing power is always 1 until there are no mafia remaining.

Roleblocker
You are a mafia member who has the ability to prevent a player from performing a night action. Once per night, you may roleblock a player, and your target will be unable to perform night actions for that night. Your target will be informed that they have been roleblocked (even if they didn't have a night action). You do not have to use your action every night.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 22:02:00
May 26 2012 18:41 GMT
#3
Player List

Remember, new players only. That means 3 or fewer games played
    1. ) Ange777 - Replaced by austinmcc
    2. ) Xatalos
    3. ) Suki Mafia Roleblocker - Lynched d1
    4. ) unforgiven_ve Vanilla Townie - shot n3
    5. ) O.Golden_ne - Replaced by ShiaoPi
    6. ) Cattivik/Vivax Vanilla Townie - Lynched d2
    7. ) s0Lstice Vanilla Townie - Shot n1
    8. ) Superouman Vanilla Townie - modkilled d2
    9. ) Eishi_Ki Vanilla Townie - modkilled d3
    10.) sciberbia Vanilla Townie - Shot n2
    11.) heist Mafia Goon - Lynched d3
    12.) Miltonkram


Replacement List
1.
2.
3.

1 of 3 MAFIA remaining:
1 of 2 Goons alive
0 of 1 Roleblockers alive

3 of 9 TOWN remaining:
? of ? Medics alive
? of ? Detectives alive

Mafia KP is always 1

---Sample Town Role PMs

Vanilla Townie
+ Show Spoiler [CLICK ME!] +

Welcome to Newbie Mini XV, you are a Vanilla Townie
You are a simpleton villager. Your job is to rid the town of all mafia. You're also seriously badass.


Detective
+ Show Spoiler [CLICK ME!] +

Welcome to Newbie Mini XV, you are a Detective
You're a stud. As such, you may check one person (once/every night) and will receive back either guilty or innocent.. You may vote once per day as everyone in the game.


Medic
+ Show Spoiler [CLICK ME!] +

You're Gregory House. As a medical genius, you have the power to save lives. You may choose one person to protect (one night/every night) and you will protect them from 1 KP. If your protection stops a hit, both you and your target will be informed. You may vote once per day.


---Sample Mafia Roles

Mafia Goon
+ Show Spoiler [CLICK ME!] +

Welcome to Newbie Mini XV, you are a Mafia Goon
You are just a hitman for the mafia and your name is distinctly Italian. Enough talk, just go out there and start killing things. Your family can kill one person per night.
You may talk to each other at any time in private by any means you wish; for your convenience, a QT has been provided here (link)
Youre allies are: IBEMAFIA, IAREASWELL


Mafia Roleblocker
+ Show Spoiler [CLICK ME!] +

Welcome to Newbie Mini XV, you are a Mafia Roleblocker
You break bones for a living. Either that or you just smooth talk people. Whatever you feel like, really. As such, once per night you may choose one person to roleblock. That person will be informed that he or she was roleblocked. You may communicate privately with your friend(s) (name(s) here) in any manner you wish; a QT has been provided at (link here) for your convenience.


Town-Wincon: You win when all threats to town are eliminated
Mafia-Wincon: You win when you outnumber town or have an equal amount of mafias alive as there are townies alive.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 26 2012 18:44 GMT
#4
That's it. Signups are open! Zelblade is probably going to co-host. Someone asked me today and I'm pretty sure it was Zelblade :p

Coaches are welcome because I don't have people willing to coach this yet.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 26 2012 20:43 GMT
#5
Count me in My second game!
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 26 2012 22:42 GMT
#6
I would be willing to give coaching to players, preferably scum players
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 26 2012 22:59 GMT
#7
seems good to me. I'll try to get a 2nd coach for townies and you could be a coach for mafia via their QT if you want to.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 26 2012 23:46 GMT
#8
hoho that would be cool
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 27 2012 01:55 GMT
#9
I can coach townies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 27 2012 08:47 GMT
#10
On May 27 2012 10:55 Mementoss wrote:
I can coach townies

ooooh yeaaaaahhh
this is gonna be the best game evar
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 27 2012 11:48 GMT
#11
awesome, now let the players sign up!
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 27 2012 12:04 GMT
#12
I think I can join this

I have entrance exams until Wednesday, so I can't be very active until those are over, but it doesn't look like this game is starting much sooner than Wednesday anyway. Also, I'll become almost certainly inactive starting around the 20th of June (I don't think I'll have Internet connection for a while), but I guess this game should be over by then...? What do you think?

In case my situation isn't too complex, sign me up! I have already played in two games, once as a vanilla townie and once as Mafia - maybe I'll be blue this time?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 27 2012 12:26 GMT
#13
On May 27 2012 21:04 Xatalos wrote:
I think I can join this

I have entrance exams until Wednesday, so I can't be very active until those are over, but it doesn't look like this game is starting much sooner than Wednesday anyway. Also, I'll become almost certainly inactive starting around the 20th of June (I don't think I'll have Internet connection for a while), but I guess this game should be over by then...? What do you think?

In case my situation isn't too complex, sign me up! I have already played in two games, once as a vanilla townie and once as Mafia - maybe I'll be blue this time?


yeah I doubt this game is going to take a month, so 20th of june sounds good to me :p
I don't know how soon this is going to start. Rad told me these games usually take a couple of days to get filled up so I'd say wednesday sounds reasonable
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 27 2012 12:30 GMT
#14
*here be co-host is helping me co-host this game. Any questions can be directed towards him or myself.


Toad I think you have some updating to do
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 27 2012 12:57 GMT
#15
On May 27 2012 21:26 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 21:04 Xatalos wrote:
I think I can join this

I have entrance exams until Wednesday, so I can't be very active until those are over, but it doesn't look like this game is starting much sooner than Wednesday anyway. Also, I'll become almost certainly inactive starting around the 20th of June (I don't think I'll have Internet connection for a while), but I guess this game should be over by then...? What do you think?

In case my situation isn't too complex, sign me up! I have already played in two games, once as a vanilla townie and once as Mafia - maybe I'll be blue this time?


yeah I doubt this game is going to take a month, so 20th of june sounds good to me :p
I don't know how soon this is going to start. Rad told me these games usually take a couple of days to get filled up so I'd say wednesday sounds reasonable


Good to hear! Okay, I'm in. This will be my first game with a majority lynch setting, too, so it's nice to have that experience for once (although I didn't like how it led to several no-lynches in Wheel of Fortune).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 27 2012 13:03 GMT
#16
Question about the setup options... I don't understand why the option with no blue roles has a Mafia Roleblocker, while the options with a Medic or a Detective have no Roleblockers? First of all, the Roleblocker has no use at all without blue roles, but it also makes little sense to have a more "powerful" Mafia team with less blue roles, and a "weaker" Mafia team with more blue roles around...?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 27 2012 13:05 GMT
#17
Although maybe that is just for meta reasons (to keep Mafia in the dark about if there are any blue roles or not).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 27 2012 13:05 GMT
#18
On May 27 2012 22:03 Xatalos wrote:
Question about the setup options... I don't understand why the option with no blue roles has a Mafia Roleblocker, while the options with a Medic or a Detective have no Roleblockers? First of all, the Roleblocker has no use at all without blue roles, but it also makes little sense to have a more "powerful" Mafia team with less blue roles, and a "weaker" Mafia team with more blue roles around...?


The roleblocker with no blues setup is so that mafia doesnt automatically know wether there are actually any blues for town. Without it, if mafia gets a roleblocker they will know that there is a doctor and a cop, and this prevents them from knowing this information. Roleblocker without any town roles is also basically a all vanilla setup, and its probably harder for town compared to the other 3.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 27 2012 13:34 GMT
#19
On May 27 2012 22:05 zelblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 22:03 Xatalos wrote:
Question about the setup options... I don't understand why the option with no blue roles has a Mafia Roleblocker, while the options with a Medic or a Detective have no Roleblockers? First of all, the Roleblocker has no use at all without blue roles, but it also makes little sense to have a more "powerful" Mafia team with less blue roles, and a "weaker" Mafia team with more blue roles around...?


The roleblocker with no blues setup is so that mafia doesnt automatically know wether there are actually any blues for town. Without it, if mafia gets a roleblocker they will know that there is a doctor and a cop, and this prevents them from knowing this information. Roleblocker without any town roles is also basically a all vanilla setup, and its probably harder for town compared to the other 3.


Yeah, I see. Just thought about that meta reason a moment after I posted my question And I agree that especially a Detective is VERY useful in this setup, since his checks are 100% correct (no framers, millers or insane Detectives).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 13:42:39
May 27 2012 13:41 GMT
#20
On May 27 2012 22:34 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 22:05 zelblade wrote:
On May 27 2012 22:03 Xatalos wrote:
Question about the setup options... I don't understand why the option with no blue roles has a Mafia Roleblocker, while the options with a Medic or a Detective have no Roleblockers? First of all, the Roleblocker has no use at all without blue roles, but it also makes little sense to have a more "powerful" Mafia team with less blue roles, and a "weaker" Mafia team with more blue roles around...?


The roleblocker with no blues setup is so that mafia doesnt automatically know wether there are actually any blues for town. Without it, if mafia gets a roleblocker they will know that there is a doctor and a cop, and this prevents them from knowing this information. Roleblocker without any town roles is also basically a all vanilla setup, and its probably harder for town compared to the other 3.


Yeah, I see. Just thought about that meta reason a moment after I posted my question And I agree that especially a Detective is VERY useful in this setup, since his checks are 100% correct (no framers, millers or insane Detectives).


what Zelblade said and actually it's the other way around as well. If you get roleblocked as a townie you would know that town has a medic / DT somewhere if RB only occurs when town actualy has a PR.
That way you can't confirm the set-up basoned on actions early on.

Edit: I am host, I shall use blue text from now on!
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