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On April 15 2012 14:44 Maverick32x wrote:
Michaelthe- you are my number 1 scum read at the moment.
You are very dismissive of any comments towards you.
You want me to comment on some stupid minor issue that no one cares about?
I've stated already that I think day 1 and day 1 cases are friggen retarded, so if you want to comment on stupid squabbles on day 1, sorry.
Try and read a bit better. I stated my reason quiet clearly why I think he is the best candidate. Let me break it down as I would for a child, though with less effort, since teaching children actually takes effort:
Now if you'd excuse me, I just read Im either asian or don't get a f*** in the lol game im about to play for not paying attention after picking, I wonder if I effed up summoners.
I'm reading this as "I'm highly confrontational, don't say anything negative to me or I will strike back.. and quickly retreat" You don't actually MAKE a case, besides calling the other person stupid for disagreeing...
You got caught with your flip-floppery and I think right now you are trying to squirm your way out as fast as possible.
Where did you get this?
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The Disappearance
Agent wherebugsgo awoke groggily to the steady ticking and humming of the ventilator next to his sleeping quarter. Seeing his laser pistol lying where it had been before the events of the previous evening, he began to wonder; had it been a dream? A few silent seconds passed as he gathered his thoughts.
"Pretty goddamn fucking good dream that was," wherebugsgo said aloud, slowly rising from the warmth of the cot. He walked over to the small console on the wall and read that the station time was 21:06. He had missed the general meeting by over two hours. Indeed, he had been asleep for well over 15 hours. Luckily for him, however, the video log of the meeting had already been uploaded and buffered. Wherebugsgo proceeded to unhook the console off the wall and bring it in with him to the small water closet in the far corner of the room. Closing the door and sitting down, he breathed a groan of relief.
"Ahh, it's good to multitask."
The console flickered and then began playing the log. On the small screen wherebugsgo could see station researchers sitting and standing around the table in the general conference room, some of them sniffling, others scared, and mostly all apprehensive.
Votes were being handled in a small, dirty box filled with small slips of paper. One of the men came forward and grabbed the box, tipping it over and dumping all of the slips onto the table. He counted the votes, making small piles in different areas of the tablespace. Eventually, he stopped and stood up.
"GMarshal is our new captain. Please come forth."
wherebugsgo sniffed the air around him and flushed. "Ahh yeah, that's the stuff."
When he looked down at the screen again, though, he noticed a peculiarity; GMarshal was not actually at the meeting! This was indeed an odd circumstance. Why would the captain-elect himself not be present? It was like a king being absent for his own coronation.
A second, weary station researcher came up to the first and whispered a few words into the man's ear. He then handed him a slip of paper and withdrew once more into the shadows. The man read the note with a somewhat perplexed look on his face and then cleared his throat.
"It appears that Captain GMarshal is ill and is currently not present. He has retired to his quarters. He wrote a note, however, that he wished be read if he were to be elected captain. The note retains instructions for what we are to do."
The man cleared his throat once more before continuing with the note. He read aloud:
"I thank you all for electing me captain and I regret to inform you that I do not feel well. I have, however, determined that froggynoddy is a xenoform and must immediately be exterminated by expulsion through airlock five. It is the only way to ensure that we rid the station of this menace. Thank you again."
wherebugsgo set the console on the floor as he washed and dried his hands. He could feel a bitter taste in the back of his throat, as if he knew something was amiss.
By the time he picked up the glowing screen again, the subjects within had shifted positions. Everyone was now looking toward a small and frail figure toward the center of the room, flanked by two of the station's largest men.
"He's not but a boy!" thought wherebugsgo, clenching his jaw. Could this alien menace truly be within a figure of such outward innocence? Doubts stirred within the agent's mind. He continued watching as the boy was dragged from the room, an entourage of station researchers following behind. As the doors closed and the last of the men exited the room, the video log ended.
It was at this point that wherebugsgo realized the station time was 22:52. The meeting had lasted almost two hours; and two hours previously, froggynoddy had died. The agent donned a leather jacket and stepped into the hall, a sinking realization setting into the pit of his stomach. If froggynoddy had truly been an alien, surely there would be revelers in the halls, and certainly the mood of the station would be of jumping jubilance, rather than one of silent sorrow. The halls were desolate in all directions, cementing his realizations in the solid reality of truth.
He walked down toward the east wing, in the direction of GMarshal's quarters. Upon reaching the correct door, he stopped and squinted through the dark. The sensors activated and small letters began to glow in reaction to the presence of the agent's body heat.
The sign displayed "Captain GMarshal," the titular change readily apparent.
The crack below the door was dark.
"Son of a bitch isn't here, if you were looking for him," said a voice behind the agent. wherebugsgo turned around to meet face to face with chaoser.
"I had arranged a meeting with GMarshal hours before the vote results were announced. He said we'd be able to discuss things. Of course, it's clear that will never happen now. I don't trust anything anymore." chaoser continued, dryly.
"No one else wanted froggy to die, yet he goes and disappears right when we're in need of discussion the most. How do we move on from this? We've come nowhere closer to eliminating those alien bastards. How do we know who we can trust and who we can't?"
wherebugsgo ground his teeth slowly, grappling with emotion. He knew he had to use reason and that every event could be rationalized. He just had to piece everything together.
"We don't," wherebugsgo said finally, breathing slowly.
"One day you think you can call a guy your buddy. The next day, he might be gone for good. It's like a second side to someone you never see unless you force the truth to come out yourself. It's what has to be done."
The two men stood for a few minutes, with both the spoken and unspoken words delving deeper into their minds.
"I need a cigarette."
wherebugsgo turned and left the corridor, wandering in the vague direction of his quarters.
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wherebugsgo I just want to you know I refuse to read anything written in 3rd person.
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On April 15 2012 15:27 Sinensis wrote:
wherebugsgo I just want to you know I refuse to read anything written in 3rd person.
agent wherebugsgo ran into an odd smelling creature by the name of sinensis on the journey back to his quarters.
"Oh, it's you, the brainless one," the agent snarled.
"I'm somewhat surprised you have the brain power to walk on two legs." sinensis merely stared forward stupidly, unreactive, drool forming at the corners of his mouth.
"Get lost, scum." hissed wherebugsgo, pushing aside the empty shell of a human. As he did so, a sticky residue was left behind on his palms. It was then that he realized that he had discovered a menace for himself.
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On April 15 2012 14:44 Maverick32x wrote:
Michaelthe- you are my number 1 scum read at the moment.
You are very dismissive of any comments towards you.
You want me to comment on some stupid minor issue that no one cares about?
I've stated already that I think day 1 and day 1 cases are friggen retarded, so if you want to comment on stupid squabbles on day 1, sorry.
Try and read a bit better. I stated my reason quiet clearly why I think he is the best candidate. Let me break it down as I would for a child, though with less effort, since teaching children actually takes effort:
Now if you'd excuse me, I just read Im either asian or don't get a f*** in the lol game im about to play for not paying attention after picking, I wonder if I effed up summoners.
I'm reading this as "I'm highly confrontational, don't say anything negative to me or I will strike back.. and quickly retreat" You don't actually MAKE a case, besides calling the other person stupid for disagreeing...
You got caught with your flip-floppery and I think right now you are trying to squirm your way out as fast as possible.
I would like to take you very seriously Mav. In fact, I am going to do things like make numbered lists!
1- Tailsmania didnt make comments towards me. He had me on a list of 30 people, and it was essentally a null read: “Not entirely sure if that's where he was going.” So you argument of me being dismissive is that I dismissed a null read. How are you dismissive of null reads? Im trying to take you serious, but I really dont know what to say.
2- Flip-flop. In my second point of my numbered list, I want to tackle the flip-flop issue. However, I really don't know what stance you say I took and flipped from. So thus ends the list.
Sorry, my attempt to take you seriously didnt go well since your statement was pretty much nonsense.
Re: Taliasmania
The pro of people posting lists of EVERY read is that it allows us to analysis the list of scum we hit. For example, scum probably won't have a scum read on any of their scum buddies on public lists (WIFOM pending).
The Con of complete read lists is that scum can use them every night to decide who to hit. For example, if the ENTIRE town has a VERY pro-town read on a person the scum knows is town- that person is likely to be hit. If your list ever includes possible blue roles, free hit. Also, they can use the list to say “OK, if this townie ends up dead, what would people think based on their list.”
Overall, I think the Con's far outwiegh the pros as Scum can use the lists everynight and the town can only most-effectivily use lists if a scum is lynched and has a public list that was prepared poorly (they will surely have some scum reads on their scum buddies if we force them to have a list.)
Actually, I should stress that point. The scum, knowing they would have a public list of “reads” when they die, would be sure to make it not obvious. Therefore, lists are a great tool for scum and a mediocre tool for the town.
A better way to find scum is to attempt to find one, and when the flip scum, go back and reread. It is unlikely that scum will bus their allies before the case even picks up steam, for example. But they are likely to bus when the lynch is secured.
On April 15 2012 15:27 Sinensis wrote:
wherebugsgo I just want to you know I refuse to read anything written in 3rd person.
Michaelthe is scum!
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@Senjai: Calling you out on this:
On April 15 2012 05:30 Senjai wrote:
Hello everyone, sorry I had a final this past couple days, I'll be able to communicate a post here shortly within the day!
Where did you go?
@prplhz: You alive?
I'm curious if anyone in out of thread communications with either of these players would care to share some info about them.
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
On April 15 2012 16:22 Snarfs wrote:@Senjai: Calling you out on this: Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 05:30 Senjai wrote:
Hello everyone, sorry I had a final this past couple days, I'll be able to communicate a post here shortly within the day! Where did you go?
@prplhz: You alive?
I'm curious if anyone in out of thread communications with either of these players would care to share some info about them.
I might be going mad, but I swear DrH said senjai has now been replaced by VE.
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Black and yellow is some shitty song by a shitty artist.
MANCJ is not encrypted in Ceasar's.
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Wonder if GM is going to come in today. Doubtful.
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On April 15 2012 22:46 chaoser wrote:
Wonder if GM is going to come in today. Doubtful.
I am happy that there's someone who has same concerns as me.
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And this is why I wanted to elect Ace.
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I go away for the day and GMan steps on his dick. Wtf GMan?
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Deciphering the MANCJ is all very well, but what is the lovers part? That is one kinky love pentangle. I would also like to confirm that I was not invited to any mason QT: I am not the A in there.
In related news: GM, does the captain's seat mean you have an escape pod, have launched yourself off the ship and won't talk ever again to anybody?
1. Froggynoddy. Why?
2. What does captaincy do?
3. Why did you disappear?
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United States22154 Posts
Back, haven't read beyond the daypost yet.
Missed the last six hours of yesterday sitting in an emergency room worrying about whether or not I would lose my right eye, so sorry I didn't update, I had other things on my mind. (Including agonizing pain, what fun!)
Will explain more when I get back from my optometrist appointment. I have at least one game changing revelation.
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On April 15 2012 23:58 Acrofales wrote:
Deciphering the MANCJ is all very well, but what is the lovers part? That is one kinky love pentangle. I would also like to confirm that I was not invited to any mason QT: I am not the A in there.
In related news: GM, does the captain's seat mean you have an escape pod, have launched yourself off the ship and won't talk ever again to anybody?
1. Froggynoddy. Why?
2. What does captaincy do?
3. Why did you disappear?
1. + Show Spoiler +On April 15 2012 02:54 GMarshal wrote:froggynoddy This guy has the strongest case against him tight now, he has a couple tell tale signs that point him out as newbie scum Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 06:56 froggynoddy wrote:Ok, sorry for lack of activity, built a mobile donkey shelter and then went to restaurant... too much Cognac. Back to the game: You don't know that Sandroba is town, if you are town then you know for sure that you are town, threrfore you are most likely to find scum. Therefore why vote for Sandroba unless he's your scumbuddy, I don't get it  . Two things in this post 1.) Apologizing for something that needs no apology. This is a sign of a guilty conscience much like what gave up Misder in Ver's XXX analysis. I did this all the time as the mole in PYP:Interesting, and Radfeild caught me out on it, so I'm always attentively looking for this kind of unnecessary apology. 2.) His issue with me trusting sandroba. This is typical of scum trying to subvert trust. "Why would you trust him OMG!" is the typical scum response to fast, uncontrollable circles of trust forming, and is basically how they express frustration while trying to discredit them in the thread. Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 18:16 froggynoddy wrote:
I don't see the Sandroba town thing, plus surely at this early stage the only town read that could be described as in any way strong is yourself.
Also we should vote for the person who least wants the captaincy, far more likely to be town imo.
##Vote Ace Again, we see him actively discrediting town reads, which are actually vitally important in PM games as well as an excellent tool for weeding out scum. Look at his posts, most are focused on discrediting sandroba, without once calling him scum, its basically "I don't see how people trust him" not "he could be scum guys". Subtley his wording gives away that he knows sandroba is town, and is both angry and clueless as to how others without privileged information have discovered the same thing.
2. + Show Spoiler +On April 14 2012 00:07 GMarshal wrote:
Transparency is overrated, you keep the town on a need to know basis, especially in a PM game. Come on people, has no one here read Ver's guide after the debacle of Death Factory Mafia 2? I'll be transparent in my decisions, but I'll be damned if I'm going to share everything I know or learn for the sake of "transparency"
Tell me MrZentor, say being captian made you into an Anti Scum Paranoid Gun owner, would you share it with the town for the sake of "transparency", thus sacrificing the power of the role?
3. + Show Spoiler +On April 10 2012 11:45 GMarshal wrote:
considering playing, but I'm not sure if I have time for a PM game, I'll get back to you, looks like a blast Dr.H
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Sorry to hear that, GM. Good luck.
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United States21170 Posts
It seems expectations have become pretty high. I've gotten several PM's that all sound a lot like "Hey you should be more active than you are ya?"
The answer is, of course, "Yes of course!" so I'll be around most of today to answer questions while I reread the thread.
Cheers guys.
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On April 16 2012 01:00 michaelthe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 23:58 Acrofales wrote:
Deciphering the MANCJ is all very well, but what is the lovers part? That is one kinky love pentangle. I would also like to confirm that I was not invited to any mason QT: I am not the A in there.
In related news: GM, does the captain's seat mean you have an escape pod, have launched yourself off the ship and won't talk ever again to anybody?
1. Froggynoddy. Why?
2. What does captaincy do?
3. Why did you disappear? 1. + Show Spoiler +On April 15 2012 02:54 GMarshal wrote:froggynoddy This guy has the strongest case against him tight now, he has a couple tell tale signs that point him out as newbie scum Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 06:56 froggynoddy wrote:Ok, sorry for lack of activity, built a mobile donkey shelter and then went to restaurant... too much Cognac. Back to the game: You don't know that Sandroba is town, if you are town then you know for sure that you are town, threrfore you are most likely to find scum. Therefore why vote for Sandroba unless he's your scumbuddy, I don't get it . Two things in this post 1.) Apologizing for something that needs no apology. This is a sign of a guilty conscience much like what gave up Misder in Ver's XXX analysis. I did this all the time as the mole in PYP:Interesting, and Radfeild caught me out on it, so I'm always attentively looking for this kind of unnecessary apology. 2.) His issue with me trusting sandroba. This is typical of scum trying to subvert trust. "Why would you trust him OMG!" is the typical scum response to fast, uncontrollable circles of trust forming, and is basically how they express frustration while trying to discredit them in the thread. Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 18:16 froggynoddy wrote:
I don't see the Sandroba town thing, plus surely at this early stage the only town read that could be described as in any way strong is yourself.
Also we should vote for the person who least wants the captaincy, far more likely to be town imo.
##Vote Ace Again, we see him actively discrediting town reads, which are actually vitally important in PM games as well as an excellent tool for weeding out scum. Look at his posts, most are focused on discrediting sandroba, without once calling him scum, its basically "I don't see how people trust him" not "he could be scum guys". Subtley his wording gives away that he knows sandroba is town, and is both angry and clueless as to how others without privileged information have discovered the same thing. 2. + Show Spoiler +On April 14 2012 00:07 GMarshal wrote:
Transparency is overrated, you keep the town on a need to know basis, especially in a PM game. Come on people, has no one here read Ver's guide after the debacle of Death Factory Mafia 2? I'll be transparent in my decisions, but I'll be damned if I'm going to share everything I know or learn for the sake of "transparency"
Tell me MrZentor, say being captian made you into an Anti Scum Paranoid Gun owner, would you share it with the town for the sake of "transparency", thus sacrificing the power of the role? 3. + Show Spoiler +On April 10 2012 11:45 GMarshal wrote:
considering playing, but I'm not sure if I have time for a PM game, I'll get back to you, looks like a blast Dr.H
You're not helping and implying I didn't read the thread, including everything GM said rather carefully. I would bother replying, but GM ninja'd your chainsaw defense of him with something I do sympathise with.
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How is that a chainsaw defense? You werent attacking him, you were asking basic questions which had basic answers.
Better questions would ask about his thoughts on Froggy flipping town. If he thinks hitting Froggy gives him any reads or other info. What he thinks "full responsibility" for a day 1 town lynch means for him. And in light of his recent post, what his "game changing revelation" is.
He obviously was going to post with some thoughts as the kill was on him, but asking "Why froggy" when he posted his case is pretty useless.
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