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On April 21 2012 12:37 VayeshMoru wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 12:36 RayzorFlash wrote:
Ohai... I think this is the first mafia game where the team i'm on has actually won then :O
Yayyyyyy!!!!! Don't be proud of it. We didn't do well, we broke the game mechanics and thus fucked the mafia who could do nothing to stop it. Sandro and GM for doing this should be ashamed and no one involved in the process of the pm work should be proud either. Beating a mafia team because the game is able to be broken and unwinnable for them is not something any of us should be proud of.
I figured out who you were by reading mafia 30, but bugs wouldn't let me call you out since he thought it would make you think one of the people who knew had leaked.
Also now I can claim solving both puzzles, although I solved the first one after acrofales b/c of the missing comma.
Oh also here's something I want to discuss, and the reason I quoted this post instead of the other one.
It seems to me, and I could be wrong, that the way that Sandro broke the setup was just by persuading everyone that he broke the setup.
DrH actually gave scum all the information that Sandro was using to "confirm" people. Bugs was at the very heart of the town pm circle from the start of the game.
But we couldn't stop everyone from thinking he'd broken the setup already and was using mechanics to confirm people; and so he got his town circle set up and started directing people and gathering info even though he didn't actually have any basis for setting up a town circle in the first place.
I think that part of the problem was with the item mechanic, which combined with the not-actually-confirmed town circle in a way that was pretty much impossible for scum to stop.
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Yeah, I'm not going to be playing another PM game for a long time. I didn't enjoy this at all, and I think it would have been even less enjoyable if I'd been town. Everything that went on in the thread seemed super useless when everything was being decided behind closed doors in PMs.
Sorry to the scum team, this was my first time being scum and I didn't play very well. I learned a lot, and I think I'll be able to do it much better next time.
I do think my fake claim of being the "Station Extra-Vehicular Activity Specialist" who repairs the station after it takes damage when scum wins a puzzle would have been fun to make, even though it wouldn't have been at all persuasive.
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On April 21 2012 12:56 VayeshMoru wrote:
Another game ruined by pms =\
To be honest drH this game would have been insanely well done had you not included pms.
The only setup note I will comment on past that is this.
Town should never at any point have 14 power roles if the mafia number is 6. Period. They had to sacrifice kp to use powers, and town had 14 abilities. Town should never have more than 2-3 power roles over mafia # (thats being gracious) but more than double their number is insane. Think of it this way. In one night (given that risk + node both shot twice) they could have day shot, killed two people, night shot killed two people, and mafia shoot two hatters who correctly dropped bombs and mafia lose.
Town should never EVER be able to completely win a game that fast.
100% agree on the bolded part of this.
And I'm amazed no one who was town read Mafia 30 and decided to call you out.
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On April 21 2012 23:23 Erandorr wrote:
Also prplzh town Mvp imho.
Pffft, clearly sinani.
But seriously, DrH, I want to reiterate that the setup was really creative and the flavor stuff was great, and I would 100% play another game from you if it's not a PM game.
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Somebody told me the kenpachi method is to [censored], and the [censored] is usually scum. Is that like a real thing? It seems like it would never work more than once. Plus I [censored] and everyone was super suspicious because of it T_T.
Is that called the kenpachi method because he uses it or because he got caught by it?
Edit: [censored]
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On April 22 2012 01:32 sandroba wrote:
Apparently it works 90% of the time from his experience. It's called kenpachi method because he always claims vanilla townie day 1. Probably useless from here on out though, now that it's out there.
It'll always work on future noobs like I was though! I'm sure it must've been talked about publicly in the past too, or else how would everyone know what it is? If it actually was a secret, the sorry kenpachi for revealing it to the world T_T
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Or I can go back and edit the post lol
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On April 22 2012 03:23 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 02:30 kitaman27 wrote:On April 21 2012 20:22 risk.nuke wrote:
I don't have any idea why sandroba leaked to wbg. That was just monumentally stupid. well played wbg for getting a foot in. If I recall correctly, bugs knew the name of the role which jackal failed to fake claim :p yes that is correct lol I put it in the scum QT too
What really pissed me off was that Jackal couldn't even be bothered to try and make up a good reason for lying about his item. We knew sandro wasn't really sure about the lynch and there was a chance jackal could've lived another day or two with a convincing lie, but he just peaced out of the thread instead.
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On April 22 2012 09:22 RayzorFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 02:56 chaoser wrote:
wait, can we just rehost this game, take out the PMs, redo the item distribution and roles and then play it again?
cause i'd be ok with that. is anyone else ok with that? THIS!!! Oh so much this!!! Thanks a lot for hosting DrH, I loved the games format, everything was exceptionally well done!! Even with PMs, the game was great. Without PMs, it would've been awesomely awesome!!!
I would totally be down with this.
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