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I was preeeeeetty scared.

I'm searching for random gems but most of the stuff is not worth reading. The funny stuff is either us insulting town players or talking about old games.

Adam4167

Australia1426 Posts

April 13 2012 05:17 GMT

#2425

Or us talking about completely irrelevant shit like WoW.

There really wasn't that much game relevant shit in our IRC.

slOosh

3291 Posts

April 13 2012 05:25 GMT

#2426

Kudos mafia team - that was the most elaborate bus ever and the sufficient amounts of thread bombing would have made it a headache for anyone to go back and comb for scum.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

April 13 2012 05:32 GMT

#2427

I'm surprised so many people thought I was scum, given that I would've done the same lurking as town given the size of the game. I would've posted more if I could but I simply got lost in all the traffic; def won't be playing another 30 player game. The only post that really tipped me off was the one ghost accurately called out, I don't think I would've made that as town but mafia IRC said it was a good idea. Given my early bus on VE after his claim I'd think after VE flipped I'd get a bit more credit too.

Tunkeg

Norway1235 Posts

April 13 2012 05:33 GMT

#2428

Thank you Mattchew for ending this

VE beeing scum was the easiest read I have ever made. Adam fairly easy to. Toad I probably wouldn't have got after the VE lynch, because he was pushing so hard for it. Rest of scum team maybe, maybe not.

For the town this game I won't say much, no point in slinging more shit. But there are definately players I will avoid playing with in the future because their lack of reasoning, nitpicking and bad mannerism. Sure I called everyone voting me day 1 stupid, without some exceptions which I called scum. But some players in this game went to a different level, pretty much beeing assholes without no justification to it.

Also I will keep my promise VE, I will shoot you whenever I get a gun. Treathening to quit if lynched is beyond what I see as fair game...

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

April 13 2012 05:43 GMT

#2429

I'm trying to modify my program to make it a little bit more flexible, and add some probability shit as well.

Too bad I don't know shit about programming GUIs, so it's all ugly command lines

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

April 13 2012 05:52 GMT

#2430

On April 13 2012 14:43 gonzaw wrote:
I'm trying to modify my program to make it a little bit more flexible, and add some probability shit as well.

Too bad I don't know shit about programming GUIs, so it's all ugly command lines

I know programming. I could help you make something like that, but I'm not really sure exactly what the program was doing.

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

April 13 2012 06:09 GMT

#2431

Mafia Tool Kit v1.0

This is a simple program that does the following:

-Ask you for the number of players, number of scum, and how much KP scum have depending on their numbers
-Make you choose one of the following options:

Find out how many unwinnable situations there are for town, and which ones
Find out, given a subset of town and a subset of scum, in how many cycles town loses if there is a misslynch
every day, and with how many misslynches
Find out, given a group of Y players and X scum, the chance that there are exactly X scum in that group of Y players
Find out, given a group of Y players and X scum, the chance that there are at least X scum in that group of Y players
Change the number of players and scum (and their KP)
Change the KP from scum

Link to the program:
http://www.mediafire.com/?22va9ygp5dc3kln

Links to the code:
http://www.mediafire.com/?kp3aw6astycuu6c
http://www.mediafire.com/?rfbc8q8ig4qa92h
http://www.mediafire.com/?xlj8zbhr0nodm15

Warning: Right now, there's a bug that if you choose option 3/4. and choose a group of over 6 townies, it gives you wrong percentages, like 200%, etc.
I guess this error is made because the binomial coefficients (used to find out the Hypergeometric distribution) are too large, which could create a problem of the representation of floating point (when dividing those large numbers), or just create a problem with the representation of the integers themselves (if the binomial coefficient is too large).
I don't really know what the problem is, or how to fix it, so if any of you guys know, check the code and help a guy out

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

April 13 2012 06:10 GMT

#2432

Nisani:

There's the program, if you want you could create a basic GUI or something.

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

April 13 2012 06:12 GMT

#2433

Of course, if anybody has more ideas we can include them in the program as well.
If anybody does programming they can help too, but nothing too fancy, just a little ditty small program is fine I think.

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

April 13 2012 06:20 GMT

#2434

Actually, I'll add some comments in the code so you guys know what the fuck is going on there.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

April 13 2012 06:35 GMT

#2435

On April 13 2012 15:20 gonzaw wrote:
Actually, I'll add some comments in the code so you guys know what the fuck is going on there.

You better be real nice cause it took me forever to find this:
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Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

April 13 2012 06:36 GMT

#2436

I posted this in my thread as well, but since this game ended sooner than expected iGrok will be putting up his normal game on Saturday. Palmar's mini game will also be going up tomorrow.

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

April 13 2012 06:40 GMT

#2437

There BH, I added comments.

I didn't add comments to the more technical stuff, like printing shit in the screen, or checking for errors (invalid entries and the like), and asking for entries, etc; but I added comments for all the other shit.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

April 13 2012 07:01 GMT

#2438

I didn't pay much attention to the game, so not sure how many mislynches mafia required to win but having toad also claim, and execute it quite poorly, seemed like a bad move to me. He certainly wouldn't be able to explain being around later on as mafia has to kill him before their, presumed, role blocker is dead.

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

April 13 2012 07:05 GMT

#2439

His claim threw me off as well, because although it seemed very stupid from a town POV, I couldn't really explain it from a scum POV.
I mean, I couldn't really explain it from a scum POV if both VE and Toad were scum. If VE was town and Toad scum it could make sense, but again VE was scummy as fuck so it wasn't really an option.

EDIT: Oh Toad, yeah unless you killed Jitsu he would have gone guns blazing against you (I guess, though, he would still have thought you were scum and there weren't 2 vets).
I believed Jitsu to be town, and I would have fully supported him if he went against you, even more if he claimed vet himself.
Maybe that could have caused a lynch on you on D3 (kind of unlikely, but possible), specially if ET, Mementos, and all the guys that "trusted each other" (as in, I think ET, Mementos and me all thought each other were town) were in favour of it as well.
This could have stilled happened on N1 though, so my death could have changed very little if Jitsu+ET+Mementos+other guys were on it.

Of course, I think ET doubted Jitsu a little bit, so it couldn't have a lot of weight.
But if Jitsu claimed vet, it would surely have been a Jitsu vs Toad lynch, and I think most townies would side with Jitsu on that one.