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Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
April 05 2012 20:30 GMT
#1261
On April 06 2012 03:54 layabout wrote:
People with pulls left:
...
Tobon
...

I'm confused by this. I used my pull here: link

But sure enough, it isn't in the list of used PoPs. Mistake in the list of PoPs, or did something weird happen?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
April 05 2012 20:33 GMT
#1262
On April 06 2012 04:20 Acrofales wrote:
We can treat our last kill just like a regular lynch and then everybody pulls the top target. It still has to happen before people start going to bed, so ##vote fast.

So far I have

Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout (counting your post as a vote)

UPDATE:

Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout, risk.nuke, Nemesis
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 05 2012 20:33 GMT
#1263
On April 06 2012 05:20 cascades wrote:
If you guys don't read my posts just tell me and I will stop bothering. Not once have Ceph nor Tobon addressed my claims or my defence. They just dodge and keep yelling "scum" over and over. That shit isn't going to stop me from pressing them on how that plan failed so bad.

At this point all three of you are probably town and I'd love to hear your thoughts on someone besides Cephiro and Tobon.

I.E. Mr. Wiggles or MrZentor. What do you think about the two of them?
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 05 2012 20:34 GMT
#1264
On April 06 2012 05:20 cascades wrote:
If you guys don't read my posts just tell me and I will stop bothering. Not once have Ceph nor Tobon addressed my claims or my defence. They just dodge and keep yelling "scum" over and over. That shit isn't going to stop me from pressing them on how that plan failed so bad.

Let's pretend that there is no chance of either of them being lynched by town today.

What do you think we should do now, with our remaining PoP's?
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 05 2012 20:35 GMT
#1265
On April 06 2012 05:33 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 04:20 Acrofales wrote:
We can treat our last kill just like a regular lynch and then everybody pulls the top target. It still has to happen before people start going to bed, so ##vote fast.

So far I have

Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout (counting your post as a vote)

UPDATE:

Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout, risk.nuke, Nemesis

I'd go with Wiggles as my first choice at this point. Second would be for Bluelightz if Wiggles doesn't make it.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
April 05 2012 20:38 GMT
#1266
On April 06 2012 05:33 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 05:20 cascades wrote:
If you guys don't read my posts just tell me and I will stop bothering. Not once have Ceph nor Tobon addressed my claims or my defence. They just dodge and keep yelling "scum" over and over. That shit isn't going to stop me from pressing them on how that plan failed so bad.

At this point all three of you are probably town and I'd love to hear your thoughts on someone besides Cephiro and Tobon


I agree, that cascades has been dropping in my scumometer estimation in favor of others. I'll answer though: I don't know what Ceph's power is, and I don't know why he thought it would work (thought nullification was used up? he thought he had some defense against it?). Obviously whatever it was, he was wrong. I just picked up the pieces afterwards. I have already responded to your other questions regarding randomness of the queue. I don't see anyone actually arguing with my mathematics or the demonstrated examples of what the queue looks like at the beginning of each day in this game and in DFM1.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
April 05 2012 20:40 GMT
#1267
I vote for pulling Bluelightz. I think Wiggles is more scummy, but Bluelightz is a close second, and he already has several existing pulls so we're more likely to be successful.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
April 05 2012 20:40 GMT
#1268
@layabout: you're going to have to be a bit clearer about what you mean. If bluelightz fucks us over by not saying where the bombs are next time, we're screwed, aren't we (assuming he's even town and telling the truth this time around).

As it stands, I think bluelightz's posting (no metagame argument, because I have none with him) is more indicative of a horrible townie than scum. However, as I also said earlier, bad town play is good for scum, so a good way for scum to blend in is to just act like a horrible townie. No clue if bluelightz plays like that. I don't think we lose much by lynching him if he's town and if he's scum we are 1 scum closer to victory. My vote is still on Mattchew, but am not opposed to just throwing bluelightz off the cliff either.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
April 05 2012 20:43 GMT
#1269
On April 06 2012 05:33 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 04:20 Acrofales wrote:
We can treat our last kill just like a regular lynch and then everybody pulls the top target. It still has to happen before people start going to bed, so ##vote fast.

So far I have

Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout (counting your post as a vote)

UPDATE:

Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout, risk.nuke, Nemesis


UPDATE 2:

Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout, risk.nuke, Nemesis, Tobon
MrWiggles: Snarfs
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
April 05 2012 20:43 GMT
#1270
On April 06 2012 05:16 Snarfs wrote:
You mentioned Bluelightz, but he's not on your list. Just curious where he would fall or why he was excluded.


Because those three + syllo are the reads I am most certain of. If I had a gun now, I would not shoot Blue, but I'd shoot one of those three instead. In the situation that all the above four persons were dead, then I could very likely shoot Blue.

On April 06 2012 05:18 cascades wrote:
I don't know. You were the one that proposed the plan, not me. And now burden of proof is upon me? Nice try.

So you didn't have way to get out of incineration? You hoping to waste town pulls and powers? You waste pops, propose shit plan and get away with it good job.

You claim to sacrifice yourself? Why is there a need for you to be pushed in the first place so that you sacrifice? And your "sacrifice" is pointless drama.

Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 07:47 Syllo wrote:
I appriciate that, but even in the case my quest fails you shouldn't save me, as me dying will confirm Cephiro as scum in a worst case scenario.


What's wrong with the above paragraph? I just switched the names around. Any scum can make same post. If his quest fails we would be leaving him out to rot because he was confident his quest would succeed.

And Ceph is acting like this makes him town. Oh wait, town cred is all he was looking for when he was making this post. And you guys fell for it like how Derek Jeter falls for hookers.

I said scum can use nullification again if refresher orb is found, which is true. Good job putting words in my mouth. Is that the best argument you can come up with? Sad that you haven't put together ONE coherent argument and people are like, hey, its Ceph, I am going to blindly follow because I am retarded and think syllo being scum = Ceph being "confirmed" town.

Keep dodging my arguments scum, I am onto you.

It's really sad how the town doesn't hold ppl accountable for their actions. Keep thinking people are town because they attack others like rabid dog.


You are the one claiming that I have a magic power that avoids/disables nullification, I never claimed that. Why do you keep making straight out lies?

Also, pathetic attempt at fishing my role. Keep guessing whether my ability would have saved me or not along with killing scum.

The plan was not about me sacrificing, but in the worst-case scenario, I would have been fine with not being saved, and died to confirm syllo as scum. Why do try and keep twisting what I've said? If I was scum, can you tell me why I would have been ready to die if things went wrong?

I have at no point needed to act town, I am town. I have also at no point gone around screaming "LOOK, I GOT NULLIFIED, I AM CONFIRMED TOWN!!!", you are once again just trying to make false claims about me. Are you pissed off that town is smart enough to understand that it is close to impossible that I am scum?

Your babble about the refresher orb is useless. I have at no point mislead town about it, nor have I put words into your mouth about it, so stop with all the lies already, you're just making yourself look worse for every lie you make.

You're onto scum? Sure, kill yourself (in-game), and then I'll admit that you're right. For now, you're just doing pathetic attempts at trying to make me look scum and divert town attention from finding more scum now that we've pretty much confirmed syllo.


On April 06 2012 05:20 cascades wrote:
If you guys don't read my posts just tell me and I will stop bothering. Not once have Ceph nor Tobon addressed my claims or my defence. They just dodge and keep yelling "scum" over and over. That shit isn't going to stop me from pressing them on how that plan failed so bad.


There is no point in reading your posts in all honesty, as all you do is tunnel me with a load of bullshit. Whereas on the other hand I am constantly trying to give others my reads of anyone else I find scummy as well, but all you do is concentrate on trying to convince everyone that I am scum. If you don't even realize it yourself, you're even worse scum than I thought.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
April 05 2012 20:46 GMT
#1271
And to the vote-thingy that Acro is keeping up, I would say cascades, but unfortunately it doesn't seem that you see the other clear scum yet, so I'll just have to wait for himself to play even worse until you notice it.

So I'll go with mattchew. (I will pull for bluelightz if that's what the majority wants, but as I said earlier, cascades+prplhz+Mattchew should be dealt with.)
BALD
Profile Joined April 2012
8 Posts
April 05 2012 20:47 GMT
#1272
Rather amusing I'd say, but it's all a bit overwhelming for me!
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 05 2012 20:48 GMT
#1273
I'm going to use my push on Syllogism, because there is no other good push candidate, and I really want him to die today.

##Push Syllogism
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
April 05 2012 20:48 GMT
#1274
On April 06 2012 05:47 BALD wrote:
Rather amusing I'd say, but it's all a bit overwhelming for me!


Please refrain from posting in an on-going game, if you want to comment as a spectator, ask the moderator of the game for an observer quicktopic.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
April 05 2012 20:57 GMT
#1275
On April 06 2012 05:43 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 05:33 Acrofales wrote:
On April 06 2012 04:20 Acrofales wrote:
We can treat our last kill just like a regular lynch and then everybody pulls the top target. It still has to happen before people start going to bed, so ##vote fast.

So far I have

Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout (counting your post as a vote)

UPDATE:

Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout, risk.nuke, Nemesis


UPDATE 2:

Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout, risk.nuke, Nemesis, Tobon
MrWiggles: Snarfs

UPDATE 3:

Mattchew: Acrofales, Cephiro
Bluelightz: Layabout, risk.nuke, Nemesis, Tobon
MrWiggles: Snarfs

I am also going to take this opportunity to mention that bedtime is in about an hour, at which time I will use my pull on whoever is leading the votecount. I am sorry if this means USA westcoast people didn't get a say or so, but I am not waiting up till 5 AM to use my pull.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 05 2012 21:01 GMT
#1276
On April 06 2012 05:57 Acrofales wrote:
I am not waiting up till 5 AM to use my pull.

Scum!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
April 05 2012 21:01 GMT
#1277
Okay, with MrZentor's push, Syllo should not only be off the conveyor belt, but squashed to a bloody pulp on the ground. I guess it's refunded in that case, like if you push someone nullified?
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 05 2012 21:02 GMT
#1278
Cephiro this nonsense about cascades need to stop.
If you think he is scum then please stop arguing with him.

Consolidate your points and present them in a case.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
April 05 2012 21:07 GMT
#1279
On April 06 2012 06:02 layabout wrote:
Cephiro this nonsense about cascades need to stop.
If you think he is scum then please stop arguing with him.

Consolidate your points and present them in a case.


Nonsense? I just can't understand how others don't see how obvious scum he is, but fine. The thing is, I may very well be dead before I finish a proper case on him if that's what you request, as I am soon about go asleep and I didn't plan on waking up before 7 AM. But if you require a proper separated case, then fine, I'll make one, anything that it takes to get scum killed.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 05 2012 21:14 GMT
#1280
##pull bluelightz
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
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