C9++ Mini Mafia - Page 18

On March 18 2012 15:54 Tobon wrote:
That important message having been said, at the moment I'm with Nemesis and slOosh. Johnnywup's behavior is coming across to me as townie deer in headlights, rather than amphibian-god-napping scum. On the other hand, grilling the newb to get some sort of reaction is very positive townie behavior as well. Hmph. I don't trust my own reads much.

I think we'll get the most real solid info out of the voting for day 1, as long as we avoid a no-lynch. So I plan to bandwagon on whomever can get close to enough votes. All your reads are likely to be better than mine, and that way I can hopefully prove my town-itude by being a deciding vote on a scum slaying.

On March 19 2012 06:15 Tobon wrote:


And what I said was that if it came down to it, that I'd rather bandwagon than allow a no-lynch, because I believe a no-lynch to be a big waste of time. You'll notice that I haven't actually voted for or tried to push the case against anyone with lynch votes yet. But yes, if just as the current example, Johnnywup has the most votes but no majority and we're near the end of the day, I'd add my vote to try to get a lynch rather than leaving a no-lynch.

On March 19 2012 07:20 Tobon wrote:
Initially, I thought that VE was pressuring Johnny to gain info, and even though I find Johnny's response a null read (can't tell whether it's newbie town or newbie scum - I can identify with his reaction being a newb myself either way), that seemed good townie behavior.

On March 19 2012 10:11 Tobon wrote:
I'll find scum, or die trying (haha). Meanwhile, since it's generally agreed that sandroba is almost assuredly town, and because my rereading of the general guide just now says indecision and lack of finger-pointing is generally seen as scummy, I will decisively point my finger the same direction he did.

##vote Jackal58

On March 19 2012 14:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
By the way, it should be noted that Probulous defended johnnywup using the words "confused" and "out of his depth". I'm excited to see these guys flip. ^^

On March 19 2012 14:06 Probulous wrote:
No that's all I needed. I talk a lot too. I disagree with your read on Johnny but at least your actions now make sense.

##unvote
##Vote: Tobon

What are your thoughts on Tobon?

On March 19 2012 10:12 Tobon wrote:
oh yeah, boldness:

##vote Jackal58

On March 19 2012 14:08 Tobon wrote: Snarfs made a random Nemesis lynch vote but never made a case for it.

On March 19 2012 14:12 Tobon wrote:
EBWOP:

##unvote
##Vote: Snarfs

On March 19 2012 13:02 xsksc wrote:

Maybe that's good idea, tunnel vision is never a good thing.

I think you are highly suspicious. Your case on me feels fabricated and nonsensical, and your filter contains nothing but silly attacks on me, you have literally commented on NOTHING else all game.

Seriously, what on earth kind of reason is that to not elaborate on your read? Withholding information because I hadn't responded yet? WHY?
I don't care if your case on me had nothing to do with johnnys alighnment, your case on me is entirely irellevent to the question. I answered your questions (some of them several times -_-), yet you still neglect to answer me every single time I ask you. Why would it have been so difficult to tell me where you got your town read on him from? Scumbuddies?

On March 19 2012 07:01 Tobon wrote:
Tha't fine. And what are your thoughts about VE's vote and then unvote for Johnnywup? And which, out of Sloosh and Xsksc do you think makes the better case?

On March 19 2012 14:08 Tobon wrote:
I still have a pretty null read on JohnnyWup, but he (and I) are the ones who have had the most widespread support for lynching. Nemesis also has had several people gut feel read him as red. These two I'd also be willing to vote for if it means the difference between a lynch and a no-lynch because they are null to me and potentially achievable vote getters.

On March 19 2012 14:09 xsksc wrote:
Hmm, I find it odd that most people seem to have so easily accepted johnny as a confused newb townie. Personally, I haven't really seen anything from him which is inherently town, he could just as easily be scum. Probulous, I'd too like to know why you used the words "confused" and "out of his depth" to defend him. Why does that make him town? If he rolled scum as a brand new player, he could just as easily fuck up and then panic when the pressure is applied. Maybe there's something I'm missing, but I'm yet to get a town vibe from him.

On March 18 2012 07:41 johnnywup wrote:
I don't buy it from VE, no reason to reveal faction at this stage in the game when no one is even accusing you. You may be trying to get our subconscious trust from the very beginning. But I don't know. You could be lying but you could be telling the truth. It's too early to say which is more likely. But I've got an eye on you.

Well, he was being agressive towards you.

Of course, you weren't necessarily accusing him.

I think he took the "also looks at jackal" as a direct attack towards him. Otherwise, general aggressiveness obviously isn't a town-tell.

but like i said this opinion is not concrete and is very likely to change.