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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 19 2012 13:56 GMT
#381
People, I would like everyone to filter xsksc and tell me your opinions on him.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
March 19 2012 13:57 GMT
#382
Ok shit, just to post some quick thoughts

Tobon is just bad. You guys are right in calling him out for his bad play. But bad play =/= scum. My read of him is kind of like bluelightz who just naturally says scummy stuff no matter what his role is. As I've said before look for motive, and I just don't see that in him right now.

LYNCH VE, he is scum. He backs off his read after he was called for it, he is doing the same thing that he is accusing jonnywup of doing which makes me think that he did not really think that jonny is scum and just went after what he thought was an easy bandwagon.

I'm seriously out for now.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 16:13:04
March 19 2012 15:56 GMT
#383
Day-1 Vote update

Snarf (1): Tobon

Tobon (3): Probulous, johnnywup, Probulous, VisceralEyes, TIPD

Probulous (0): Nemesis

xsksc (1): sloOsh

Jackal58 (2): Sandroba, VisceralEyes

Johnnywup (0): VisceraEyes, jcarlsoniv

sloOsh (1): xsksc

Nemesis (1): Snarfs

VisceralEyes (1): Nemesis, Probulous


No-lynch (0): Johnnywup

With 13 people alive it takes 7 votes to lynch someone.
If I missed something and went wrong somewhere please let me know


Edit: Should be correct now



<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 19 2012 15:57 GMT
#384
I unvoted off johnnywup ^
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 19 2012 16:09 GMT
#385
Ah crap right, I only searched for ##vote and not for ##unvote... Give me a sec to check that as well for everyone else
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 19 2012 16:14 GMT
#386
Pathetic,.Toad. =D

##Unvote

All right, I'm doing a full reread from the beginning.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 19 2012 16:27 GMT
#387
On March 19 2012 04:19 Dirkzor wrote:
Well, Johnnyboy, some are resisting the fact that you might be scum. So that defence is pretty useless at this point.

While I'm not convinced about your towniness so far I'm not seeing you in red lights just yet.

Personally I don't like jcarlsoniv. He seemed to jump the wagon way to quickly. Since I also think the whole case on Johnny is somewhat weak at this point doesn't help jcarlsoniv.

Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 23:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Omg I'm alive...

Damn Toad, that diagram was super informative.


On March 18 2012 16:54 Dirkzor wrote:
On March 18 2012 15:54 Tobon wrote:
Only one thing so far is absolutely clear: Toad_in_pink_dress is our only hope to maintain our town's historic amphibian worshipping ways, now that poor, martyred Toadesstern is no more. If there are any doctors (or better, veterinarians!) among us: know that Toad_in_pink_dress must be protected at all costs!

That important message having been said, at the moment I'm with Nemesis and slOosh. Johnnywup's behavior is coming across to me as townie deer in headlights, rather than amphibian-god-napping scum. On the other hand, grilling the newb to get some sort of reaction is very positive townie behavior as well. Hmph. I don't trust my own reads much.

I think we'll get the most real solid info out of the voting for day 1, as long as we avoid a no-lynch. So I plan to bandwagon on whomever can get close to enough votes. All your reads are likely to be better than mine, and that way I can hopefully prove my town-itude by being a deciding vote on a scum slaying.


While this post contains a huge amount of fluff you actaully have a scummy stance on the game...

1) You think JW is a new townie player.
2) People grilling him are acting town by doing so
3) You don't trust your own reads - (don't worry just ask your team)
4) Think we're lynching for information
5) Will bandwagon anyone so we get a lynch
6) Push responsibility away from yourself

What a bad post all in all.

You are going about this all wrong. But hopefully you'll figure it out on your own.

@VE: If this is your new style I liked your old one better.


Yes, awful post, but I'm getting more of a new town vibe off of it. It reminds me of my thought process when I started playing. (Assuming he's new, if he's not, then this turns into a VERY scummy post)



On March 18 2012 10:28 Nemesis wrote:
On March 18 2012 10:17 jcarlsoniv wrote:
##vote johnnywup

I shall join VE on this. My gut supa stronk.

Last post before I go out. DON'T HIDE YE IRISH SPIRIT

Mind explaining your vote?

I think that right now you guys are jumping on an easy bandwagon. johnnywup is a new player and this is his first game. Newbie mafias are more likely to lurk and be wishy washy with their post as you say. But he did take a stance that he thought jackal was town, which means that he is not avoiding the issue at all.


Explain my vote, eh? Well, I voted quite early in the day. Do you know why? Because I found (and still do find) his posting to be suspicious. So I placed a vote on him. I can find out information this way. But, sorry, I didn't mean to offend you and your scum buddy.


Compare what I bolded with jcarlsoniv's case on Johnny... Its the same points that I bring up against Tobon that jcarlson brings up about johnny. But when its tobon its a newbie town read and when its Johnny its a scummy read. Huh?

Tobon and Jcarlsoniv are scum together.


Anybody else see the problem here?
Personally I don't like jcarlsoniv. He seemed to jump the wagon way to quickly. Since I also think the whole case on Johnny is somewhat weak at this point doesn't help jcarlsoniv.


There really was no wagon and what little of it there was could be argued jcarl started. However Dirkzor feels compelled to make more out of it than what anybody could possibly do. Plus the man really needs to start picking it up. He's posted less than I have and I spent yesterday without power. Mother nature is a bitch.
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 19 2012 16:33 GMT
#388
That's been a running theme this game Jackal - people making more out of one or two votes than there actually is.

That's enough for me to filter him after I'm done rereading though, thx Jackal. What are your thoughts on johnnywup and Snarfs?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 19 2012 16:40 GMT
#389
I think Johhnywup is new and Snarfs is non existent.
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 19 2012 16:41 GMT
#390
I want to lynch a lurker Jackal, what do you think about that?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 19 2012 16:50 GMT
#391
Which one?
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 19 2012 17:01 GMT
#392
They're all the same right? How does Snarfs or Dirkzor grab ya?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 19 2012 17:03 GMT
#393
As I already have a suspicion of Dirkzor I could go with him.

##Vote: Dirkzor
Life can only kill you once.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 17:05 GMT
#394
Sorry guys, just got into work and finished reading the thread (Monday morning productivity). I was lying on my couch watching about 7 episodes of the wire and munching on crackers yesterday, recovering from St. Patty's (hence my absense). I'll try and weigh in on some things now.

First off, I don't think Nemesis is going down today, and I liked how collected he was in responding to my vote so that's off. He didn't get overly emotional or respond irrationally, which is what I would have expected from scum in his position.

##Unvote Nemesis

I liked Nemesis and Probulous's votes on VE. I think since thoses votes we've seen a bit better VE.

I'm not going to hop on the Jackal lynch because his play was similar in Wiggles mini and he ended up being shot by our vig when we really could have used him day 3. I don't see a point in trying to pursue his lynch unless he's going to do something scummy.

I'll throw my vote on Tobon since I don't see a better option and I feel that in the next 5 hours we need a lynch. I think that using the excuse of it being your first game is no reason to not come off as more town. A big factor is, if he is town, we at least alleviate a topic of uncertainty in the coming days and make for a better town atmosphere. He's acted like scum and he's going to be a topic of discussion for the coming days if he isn't lynched today, which will only detract from further scum hunting.

##Vote Tobon
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
March 19 2012 17:09 GMT
#395
Would people think I'm lurking since I'm conviently posting now? I think so but anyway.

After re-reading I agree that Jcarlsoniv was the first to state clearly that he found johnny scummy. At the point I wrote the post I assume that VE had already voted johnny when jcarlsoniv posted his scum read. But that wasn't really the big point. The big point was that two players doing similar things is 2 very different things for carlsoniv.

I've read the thread in the small breaks i've had at work. I'm feeling iffy about sandroba. I just assume he would play like palmar for some reason and he have not. Is he always this inactive?

Will re-read while getting dinner. I'll be here until lynch.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 19 2012 17:19 GMT
#396
On March 20 2012 02:09 Dirkzor wrote:
Would people think I'm lurking since I'm conviently posting now? I think so but anyway.

After re-reading I agree that Jcarlsoniv was the first to state clearly that he found johnny scummy. At the point I wrote the post I assume that VE had already voted johnny when jcarlsoniv posted his scum read. But that wasn't really the big point. The big point was that two players doing similar things is 2 very different things for carlsoniv.

I've read the thread in the small breaks i've had at work. I'm feeling iffy about sandroba. I just assume he would play like palmar for some reason and he have not. Is he always this inactive?

Will re-read while getting dinner. I'll be here until lynch.


Sandroba and I are town confirmed masons. And look at that, now there are two less people that it's necessary to look at for scum. This increases town odds, so there is no reason to shed suspicion on two town targets.


On March 20 2012 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I want to lynch a lurker Jackal, what do you think about that?


I'm not really a big fan on lynching into the lurkers. I mean, lurkers are awful and they hurt town, but how do you choose which one to lynch?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 17:22 GMT
#397
Morning, all. I am reading TIPD scummiest of the three (TIPD/Snarfs/Dirkzor) semi-lurkers so far, because he's attempted to look the most involved while also contributing the least. And if you guys do end up lynching me today, and I flip town, be sure to notice how both TIPD and Snarfs are band wagoning to get it done.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
March 19 2012 17:22 GMT
#398
In my book you (jcarlsoniv) and sandroba are not confirmed anything. You are most likely town and almost certainly on the same team but not confirmed.

But thanks for reminding me of the mason claim. had forgot about that one... yay for rereading! =)
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 19 2012 17:23 GMT
#399
You pick one and lynch it with fire. Ideally, this lights a fire under the remaining lurkers, regardless of the alignment of the lurker we chose. You said it yourself: lurkers are awful and they hurt town. This is true regardless of their alignment.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 19 2012 17:25 GMT
#400
On March 20 2012 02:22 Tobon wrote:
Morning, all. I am reading TIPD scummiest of the three (TIPD/Snarfs/Dirkzor) semi-lurkers so far, because he's attempted to look the most involved while also contributing the least. And if you guys do end up lynching me today, and I flip town, be sure to notice how both TIPD and Snarfs are band wagoning to get it done.


What has changed between last night when you said Snarfs is "the most suspicious of the semi-lurkers" and now when TIPD is "the most suspicious of the semi-lurkers"?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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